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[Witherweaver]

Flash poll: do you think the game would be balanced if there were four scum?

Newsflash: silver made a twilight post in the Baratheon QT saying (paraphrased): "Everything I said in-thread is true."

We can react to these while we wait.

Maybe if one was a Traitor?

[Witherweaver]

Oh, and what about the Targ roleblocker ?

I think better to wait for Ash.

[Teproc]

Flash poll: do you think the game would be balanced if there were four scum?

Newsflash: silver made a twilight post in the Baratheon QT saying (paraphrased): "Everything I said in-thread is true."

We can react to these while we wait.

Maybe if one was a Traitor?

Good point, those are trendy these days.

[Ichimaru Gin]

So why are the PR's waiting to tell us their results again?
I find pacovf's move from the house surprising, but not necessarily scummy.

I don't really think it's a 4 man team at this point. If things had gone differently, scum would still have their Jailkeeper and might have taken control of one of the houses--which is a pretty huge power swing.

[Hydrad]

So why are the PR's waiting to tell us their results again?
I find pacovf's move from the house surprising, but not necessarily scummy.

I don't really think it's a 4 man team at this point. If things had gone differently, scum would still have their Jailkeeper and might have taken control of one of the houses--which is a pretty huge power swing.

I'm guessing it just feels super imbalanced because we hit scum day 1 and 2. So now town is in a amazing position.

[EgorK]

Checking in. Today was my youngest first birthday, I'll try to contribute tommorow

[Voltaire]

So why are the PR's waiting to tell us their results again?

Because we want to see who we decide to lynch first.

[XerxesPraelor]

But I already know I want to lynch the person we roleblocked. Can't ash just claim? Actually EgorK is an okay lynch. Where is he anyways?

[EgorK]

But I already know I want to lynch the person we roleblocked. Can't ash just claim? Actually EgorK is an okay lynch. Where is he anyways?

I really need to get avatar it seems. If my post is invisible with one post after it...

[XerxesPraelor]

Sorry - I did see you but since I'm reading on my phone I didn't see who it was and I couldn't tell who it was from the writing. I know note that you are here and will be active. You probably will be a short reread, so I'll try it in a bit.

[ashersky]

How about we figure an order of claims? 

1) House roleblock target
2) Cop result
3) Tracker result

That seems to make sense, right?  If Volt is testing me again, this works for him.

I am in agreement with Volt that I want more opinions down in writing before I reveal.  There are many reasons for that, from the "4-man team" theory to "scum is worried I caught them" theory.

[pacovf]

I am not going to do a full reread just before investigative results drop in, so I've just done a quick reread of Hydrad and EgorK, and I will just post my overall feelings:

-Hydrad: scummy scum, and I've been saying so since D1. He said PPS was scummy, then avoided his wagon like the pest, and jumped at the opportunity of not voting for him when PPS posted a very weak defense. Yesterday, he was basically giving town reads to most everybody, until it became clear it was between him and silver, and then he decided to vote for him. There's also a weird post of him in the Stark QT, saying that if Ashersky died tonight, we should lynch whoever got the Stark power.
-EgorK: basically absent during D1, aside from some strange setup analysis. Avoided the PPS wagon. Has been defending Hydrad since the beginning. But, he was the second on silver's wagon, and both PPS and silver wanted his lynch during D1. Town.

The ones I haven't attempted to reread:
-Teproc: strongest townread. Was instrumental in both PPS and silver wagons (first and last vote respectively).
-witherweaver. Was in both wagons (if we give him the "intent to hammer" in PPS's case). There's also the flavour mixup at the beginning. Strong townread.
-Voltaire: overall town play, and pushed PPS while the deadline was close. Has claimed tracker. Town.
-Asherky: nullish-town. Has claimed cop.
-Robz: meh. But Ashersky has investigated him and given a Realm-Aligned result.
-XerxesPraelor: his play and his claim lean null-townish. But silver was pushing for his lynch very hard as an alternative to PPS. Town.

If it's not Hydrad, which I think unlikely, I would look at Robz (despite the investigation result) or Ashersky. I don't trust PRs that much in a closed setup.

[Ichimaru Gin]

No read on me?

[pacovf]

Oh sorry, I knew I was forgetting someone.

-Ichimaru Gin: revived the wagon on PPS. Mostly town.

[Ichimaru Gin]

Oh sorry, I knew I was forgetting someone.

-Ichimaru Gin: revived the wagon on PPS. Mostly town.

That's ok. It happens. Maybe scum points to me that I slipped under your radar though 

I really have forgotten who is in houses besides my own. So who needs to claim for the roleblocking target?

[pacovf]

Targ:
-Voltaire,
-Robz888
-XerxesPraelor
-witherweaver

Stark:
-Teproc
-Hydrad
-EgorK
-Ichimaru Gin

Houseless:
-Ashersky
-pacovf

[Teproc]

I'll do a reads list when I get the time, but meanwhile, here's something that's much more meaningful than silverspawn post-lynch WIFOM :

What do we tink of silver claiming to have targeted XP ?

[pacovf]

I don't think silver defends PPS D1 by bussing another partner. I think he claimed to have copped XerxesPraelor for some extra towncred ("why would I deny myself an easy mislynch?"). The way he said that it was the single most logical choice to cop, so he didn't really have a choice, and he would have claimed to cop him even if he was a scumpartner, leads me to believe he was trying to undo the IC he just created.

[pacovf]

Anybody interested in actually doing stuff? Just asking.

Vote: Hydrad

[EgorK]

Sorry, was busy at work today. Will have time tommorow I hope

[Teproc]

Ok, so let's see. My lynch pool for today is (and this is before I reread) :

- Hydrad. His flip in Legend of Zelda is making me nervous about this, but the evidence is too strong to ignore. He should probably be our lynch today.
- Robz : There's ash's result, but godfather is possible. Otherwise I have no reason to think he's town, so he's in there.
- Ichimaru : While he relaunched the PPS wagon, it was at a point where it could have been a bus thinking it would not get through. He then fought strongly against the silver lynch, so he could be scum.
- XP : XP got wagons and silverspawn's claim, but I actually can't remember what he did in this game, and his position on the PPS wagon could very easily be a bus.

People I won't lynch today :
- EgorK : Wagonned by both scum on day 1 and was te alternate lynch to PPS at the end
- pacovf : I had forgotten he was the one who put silver at L-1. Along with being on the PPS lynch, that's enough for me to give a pass today.
- Witherweaver : He's largely responsible for the PPS lynch by stopping the XP lynch, I just don't see why he'd do that as scum. Plus, he's an IC.
- Voltaire : I think he's town based on play, and his claim is highly believable
- ash : Again, highly believable claim, definitel off the table for today

[Witherweaver]

I'm not so convinced about EgorK.  Was he ever really in danger of being lynched?  The atlternate lynch to PPS was Pac after XP was off.

Vote: EgorK because why not?  And votes are cool.

[Teproc]

WW, since you're here : will someone claim the Targ roleblocker ? I'm tired of being ignored here.

[pacovf]

- pacovf : I had forgotten he was the one who put silver at L-1.

Not exactly true. Hydrad was the one who put him at L-1. I was third on the wagon (both WW and Ichi had been there and then left for Hydrad, then EgorK joined), but I briefly unvoted while he was at L-1 because I didn't know if all the house movements had been done.

For what it's worth, I would have voted for him earlier if I hadn't been VLA. You don't really need to believe me, but I did hint at it in the Stark N1 QT.

[Witherweaver]

Alright, well everyone has the same idea, which is to get people talking and on the record before claiming things.  But then no one ends up saying anything.

So, drumroll:

We Roleblocked Teproc last night

This means either:

(1) Teproc is scum.
(2) Scum tried to kill Ash.
(3) Ash is scum and didn't shoot.
(4) Someone else is scum and didn't shoot for framing purposes.

(Is there a point to differentiate (3) and (4)?  Not sure.)