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Re: M50: A Song Of Ice And Fire Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1775 on: September 22, 2014, 09:34:20 pm »

About the house restriction, I can confirm XP revealed this in the QT.

Good to know.  How convinced are we on his towniness.

He's a fairly strong town read for me, given SS's fake result on him.

What happened to the 100% confidence that pacovf was scum?

A+

Absolutely still convinced.  Nothing's changed there, except pacovf has a post in the VLA thread which I always, always, always accept as genuine, so I haven't gone after him.

Why do you ask?

Why is it rated so highly as a question?

Why wouldn't you realize this question is important?
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Re: M50: A Song Of Ice And Fire Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1776 on: September 22, 2014, 09:35:16 pm »

riiiiiiiiiiiiight sorry
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Re: Re: M50: A Song Of Ice And Fire Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1777 on: September 22, 2014, 09:35:39 pm »

Also, it's clear to me no one has actually read my posts, given it should be pretty clear who I copped anyway.

While I have an idea, I want you to commit. This is what claiming is. Can't go back on it. You haven't commited to much yet.

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Niether have any of you.  "I'm going to vote until you claim" is a pretty easy excuse for scum to use to drive a mislynch, don't you think?

Not at all, because you're in entire control over whether you get mislynched (or lynched) and the scum have nothing to do with it.
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Re: M50: A Song Of Ice And Fire Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1778 on: September 22, 2014, 09:36:09 pm »

riiiiiiiiiiiiight sorry

this is to ww about robz
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Re: M50: A Song Of Ice And Fire Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1779 on: September 22, 2014, 09:36:49 pm »

riiiiiiiiiiiiight sorry

I'm pretty sure if you wanted to increase the timely length of another letter, you wouldn't have posted quite so many copies of it.

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Re: M50: A Song Of Ice And Fire Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1780 on: September 22, 2014, 09:41:05 pm »

So you're saying the scum team is pacof/silver/PPS/pooooooooooooooooossibly a fourth member. Have you re-read to see if that checks out?

Well, I'm still extremely confident in my read of pacovf.  I'd lynch him immediately if he wasn't VLA.
I'm absolutely convinced that Silver's claim is a lie.  I'd lynch him immiedately if things were set for the night.
I'm not aware of the mafia team since, so sure, a fourth member is possible.

I have not done specific re-reads yet.  Have you?
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Re: Re: M50: A Song Of Ice And Fire Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1781 on: September 22, 2014, 09:41:38 pm »

Not at all, because you're in entire control over whether you get mislynched (or lynched) and the scum have nothing to do with it.

But if I get mislynched, and scum are on the wagon, they get a free ride.  They don't have to answer for anything.  That's my point.
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Re: M50: A Song Of Ice And Fire Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1782 on: September 22, 2014, 09:43:01 pm »

Why wouldn't you realize this question is important?

It's a perfectly fine question.  Cromulent, even.

A+, though?  That means it's the best of any possible question ever to be asked (given A+ is the top mark you can earn).  That's weighty stuff.
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Re: Re: M50: A Song Of Ice And Fire Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1783 on: September 22, 2014, 09:44:14 pm »

Not at all, because you're in entire control over whether you get mislynched (or lynched) and the scum have nothing to do with it.

But if I get mislynched, and scum are on the wagon, they get a free ride.  They don't have to answer for anything.  That's my point.

But you can easily stop this lynch from happening.
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Re: M50: A Song Of Ice And Fire Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1784 on: September 22, 2014, 09:44:37 pm »

Not at all, because you're in entire control over whether you get mislynched (or lynched) and the scum have nothing to do with it.

But if I get mislynched, and scum are on the wagon, they get a free ride.  They don't have to answer for anything.  That's my point.

this might be true, but you don't get a free pass because of it. Lynching you is akin to lynching lurkers. I'd be fine with doing Egork, Robz or you.

Besides, if you're right, you have already discovered most of "our" team anyway, possibly all.

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Re: M50: A Song Of Ice And Fire Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1785 on: September 22, 2014, 09:45:20 pm »

So you're saying the scum team is pacof/silver/PPS/pooooooooooooooooossibly a fourth member. Have you re-read to see if that checks out?

Well, I'm still extremely confident in my read of pacovf.  I'd lynch him immediately if he wasn't VLA.
I'm absolutely convinced that Silver's claim is a lie.  I'd lynch him immiedately if things were set for the night.
I'm not aware of the mafia team since, so sure, a fourth member is possible.

I have not done specific re-reads yet.  Have you?

Pacovf's interactions regarding PPS didn't affect your read on him in any way?
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Re: M50: A Song Of Ice And Fire Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1786 on: September 22, 2014, 09:45:41 pm »

So you're saying the scum team is pacof/silver/PPS/pooooooooooooooooossibly a fourth member. Have you re-read to see if that checks out?

Well, I'm still extremely confident in my read of pacovf.  I'd lynch him immediately if he wasn't VLA.
I'm absolutely convinced that Silver's claim is a lie.  I'd lynch him immiedately if things were set for the night.
I'm not aware of the mafia team since, so sure, a fourth member is possible.

I have not done specific re-reads yet.  Have you?

You avoided my question. Have you analyzed your team for interactions?

Of course I've done some re-reads. We lynched scum D1 and I'm a PR.
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Re: M50: A Song Of Ice And Fire Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1787 on: September 22, 2014, 09:46:11 pm »

So you're saying the scum team is pacof/silver/PPS/pooooooooooooooooossibly a fourth member. Have you re-read to see if that checks out?

Well, I'm still extremely confident in my read of pacovf.  I'd lynch him immediately if he wasn't VLA.
I'm absolutely convinced that Silver's claim is a lie.  I'd lynch him immiedately if things were set for the night.
I'm not aware of the mafia team since, so sure, a fourth member is possible.

I have not done specific re-reads yet.  Have you?

This also, by the way, implies that either you copped Pacovf or Silver, or you got a Realm-Aligned result.  I don't think you copped Silver.
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Re: M50: A Song Of Ice And Fire Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1788 on: September 22, 2014, 09:47:23 pm »

Sorry. I must have completely missed Volt soft-claiming a PR. Is there a relevant post someone could point me to?

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Re: M50: A Song Of Ice And Fire Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1789 on: September 22, 2014, 09:47:59 pm »

Sorry. I must have completely missed Volt soft-claiming a PR. Is there a relevant post someone could point me to?

I hard claimed, in bold, that he had an investigative role.  It's what convinced us to go ahead and do the mass claim.
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Re: Re: M50: A Song Of Ice And Fire Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1790 on: September 22, 2014, 09:49:13 pm »

Not at all, because you're in entire control over whether you get mislynched (or lynched) and the scum have nothing to do with it.

But if I get mislynched

Let me stop you right there. This is where you should step in.
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Re: M50: A Song Of Ice And Fire Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1791 on: September 22, 2014, 09:53:42 pm »

I could keep being coy, or I could just say it, since I've always known I was just going to say it.

I am an investigative role with a result from N1.

So, let's take it from here.
Aha. Found it. Don't know how I missed it.
That + silver + ash would seem like a lot of similar roles. . .

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« Reply #1792 on: September 22, 2014, 09:54:47 pm »

I could keep being coy, or I could just say it, since I've always known I was just going to say it.

I am an investigative role with a result from N1.

So, let's take it from here.
Aha. Found it. Don't know how I missed it.
That + silver + ash would seem like a lot of similar roles. . .

yea I was of course thinking that too. it's a closed setup, so it's possible, but 3 cops would be weird.

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Re: Re: M50: A Song Of Ice And Fire Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1793 on: September 22, 2014, 09:55:07 pm »

Not at all, because you're in entire control over whether you get mislynched (or lynched) and the scum have nothing to do with it.

But if I get mislynched, and scum are on the wagon, they get a free ride.  They don't have to answer for anything.  That's my point.

But you can easily stop this lynch from happening.

Not at all, because you're in entire control over whether you get mislynched (or lynched) and the scum have nothing to do with it.

But if I get mislynched

Let me stop you right there. This is where you should step in.


Possible.  But maybe it's possible that mislynching me helps all of you realize that I haven't been lying all game and you'll go back and actually read my posts instead of ignoring them, and thereby possibly helping us win.

As of now, I get the sinking feeling we are snatching a town win from the jaws of victory.
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Re: M50: A Song Of Ice And Fire Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1794 on: September 22, 2014, 09:55:49 pm »

I could keep being coy, or I could just say it, since I've always known I was just going to say it.

I am an investigative role with a result from N1.

So, let's take it from here.
Aha. Found it. Don't know how I missed it.
That + silver + ash would seem like a lot of similar roles. . .

yea I was of course thinking that too. it's a closed setup, so it's possible, but 3 cops would be weird.

Investigative Role could be a lot of things.  I'm not immediately jumping on Volt's claim as fake.

1-Shot Cop and Full Cop in a closed setup just makes very little sense.
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Re: M50: A Song Of Ice And Fire Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1795 on: September 22, 2014, 09:56:09 pm »

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Re: M50: A Song Of Ice And Fire Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1796 on: September 22, 2014, 09:56:15 pm »

Pacovf's interactions regarding PPS didn't affect your read on him in any way?

Not at all.
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Re: M50: A Song Of Ice And Fire Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1797 on: September 22, 2014, 09:57:20 pm »

You avoided my question. Have you analyzed your team for interactions?

Of course I've done some re-reads. We lynched scum D1 and I'm a PR.

As town, I don't know who else is on "my team."  So no, I haven't analyzed it.

As for re-reads, when we get to the "make cases" stage, I probably will.  This is my only game, so I'm fairly confident in my recall ability.
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Re: M50: A Song Of Ice And Fire Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1798 on: September 22, 2014, 09:58:06 pm »

This also, by the way, implies that either you copped Pacovf or Silver, or you got a Realm-Aligned result.  I don't think you copped Silver.

It could imply that, yes.

Implying is also a funny word that is a conglomeration of "imp" and "lying," which is something I think makes sense, when you think about imps in the fantasy genre.
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Re: M50: A Song Of Ice And Fire Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1799 on: September 22, 2014, 09:58:10 pm »

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1-Shot Cop and Full Cop in a closed setup just makes very little sense
man, I'm not even sure I buy that you're a cop. Even if you're town, I totally see you claiming cop to get your targets lynched. You even said day 1 "what if I claimed day cop?" so it doesn't seem far fetched to just fakeclaim daycop. say you're right, and P is scum. If we lynch him and he flips, noone is going to suspect you, even if you come clean with your fake claim.
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