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[faust]

Assuming Ichi targeted Joth ..

(1) Eevee is SK, Mafia targeted Eevee
(2) Eevee not SK:
(a) Mafia+SK targeted Eevee,
(b) Mafia target Eevee, SK did not shoot for ability
(c) Mafia target SK, who commuted or used BP shot
(d) SK Jailkept (RB) Mafia

Also, SK could have Jailkept Joth instead of Ichi.  But SK would probably not choose to use JK shot .  Unless they wanted to obfuscate setup.

Err... why is Eevee nowhere mafia in these scenarios?

[faust]

I can't believe you're talking and talking and noone has done this:

<b>Can the Mafia Roleblocker block and kill in the same night?</b>

[faust]

Bah.

Can the Mafia Roleblocker block and kill in the same night?</b>

[faust]

I fail horribly

[Witherweaver]

I can't believe you're talking and talking and noone has done this:

<b>Can the Mafia Roleblocker block and kill in the same night?</b>

I asked this already.  And yes, I forgot the Eevee mafia scenarios.

[Witherweaver]

Ash thought mafia could role block and kill.  I'm not sure.

[faust]

I can't believe you're talking and talking and noone has done this:

<b>Can the Mafia Roleblocker block and kill in the same night?</b>

I asked this already.  And yes, I forgot the Eevee mafia scenarios.

Well yes, you asked us, you didn't ask e. And while I'm sure one of us knows the answer, I'm afraid he won't tell us.

[ashersky]

But you went ahead and lynched Ichi.

This sounds...upset.

He was mafia, you know.  It's a good thing we "went ahead" and lynched him.

[faust]

But you went ahead and lynched Ichi.

This sounds...upset.

He was mafia, you know.  It's a good thing we "went ahead" and lynched him.

I just don't like it when I ask people to wait and they don't.

[ashersky]

But you went ahead and lynched Ichi.

This sounds...upset.

He was mafia, you know.  It's a good thing we "went ahead" and lynched him.

I just don't like it when I ask people to wait and they don't.

I mean, okay...but...

He was mafia, man.  Regardles of you wanting people to wait, given the result, you ought to be happier.

[faust]

But you went ahead and lynched Ichi.

This sounds...upset.

He was mafia, you know.  It's a good thing we "went ahead" and lynched him.

I just don't like it when I ask people to wait and they don't.

I mean, okay...but...

He was mafia, man.  Regardles of you wanting people to wait, given the result, you ought to be happier.

Well, it's been a few days, maybe the effect has worn off. "You ought to be happier", what kind of accusation is that anyway? We lost two IC-PRs tonight and are in a MyLo-ish situation. I'm sorry if I'm not all sunshine.

[ashersky]

You just seem unneccarily unhappy with the result of the lynch yesterday.

I mean, you can't be THAT unhappy about it, so it ends up feeling fake because, why would he be angry we lynched mafia?  If he's town, he should be happy.  If he's mafia, he should act happy.  If he's SK, he should be happy.

So, given in any scenario, you should seem happy to us, the fact that you are pushing this unhappy grumpyface seems intentional.  For what reason, though?  Possible to ensure consistency from one day to the next?

[Eevee]

My hypothesis: he is mafia, that's why.

[faust]

You just seem unneccarily unhappy with the result of the lynch yesterday.

I mean, you can't be THAT unhappy about it, so it ends up feeling fake because, why would he be angry we lynched mafia?  If he's town, he should be happy.  If he's mafia, he should act happy.  If he's SK, he should be happy.

So, given in any scenario, you should seem happy to us, the fact that you are pushing this unhappy grumpyface seems intentional.  For what reason, though?  Possible to ensure consistency from one day to the next?

Yes, I am obviously doing everything to be consistent. I still think Ichi is town, btw.

[faust]

My hypothesis: he is mafia, that's why.

Yes, you really seem sure about this. Can you explain to me why you don't think a combination of WW/ash is possible?

[Eevee]

My hypothesis: he is mafia, that's why.

Yes, you really seem sure about this. Can you explain to me why you don't think a combination of WW/ash is possible?

WW spearheaded the Hydrad lynch, ash ultimately enabled for Jimmm to hammer it. You tried to deflect us from it. To boot, you didn't exactly seem enthusiastic about lynching IG yesterday. You just fit for mafia easily the best, and any one of you could be the SK just the same, which makes you hands down the best lynch.

I guess ash being jailed N1 is slight evidence towards him being the SK given we are missing kills? Anyways, we can cross that bridge tomorrow, today I feel very good lynching you would win us an extra day.

[faust]

Eevee, do you really want to make a potential game-losing move with such hand-wavy argumentation?

[faust]

- Serial Killer wins when all other players have been eliminated. If a scenario exists where a Serial Killer and a Mafia the following will be followed:
   * If Bernard is the last mafia alive, Mafia will win.
   * If Senator Thurman or Anna Thurman is the last mafia alive, the SK will win.

Hydrad had the flavor name Bernard. This means mafia needs to SK dead in order to win.

Well, this makes me think Eevee is more likely to be SK than to be mafia. Mafia doesn't want to get me killed, they want the SK dead. Then again, Eevee could be Mafia who thinks I'm the SK, but doesn't say so because it's scummy.

[Eevee]

Eevee, do you really want to make a potential game-losing move with such hand-wavy argumentation?

What do you mean! It's tangible evidence of others actively getting scum lynched while you try to deflect away to town players.

[faust]

Eevee, do you really want to make a potential game-losing move with such hand-wavy argumentation?

What do you mean! It's tangible evidence of others actively getting scum lynched while you try to deflect away to town players.

You know, there's a thing called "bussing". Now really, I understand that you would think I'm scum, but is it so out of the question for you that someone else is mafia that you aren't even willing to consider it?

Either you are town, and this is some DoP-like endgame scenario, or you are scum trying to deflect away from your own lack of successful scumhunting.

[Witherweaver]

How do you know he hasn't considered it?

[faust]

How do you know he hasn't considered it?

If he had, I would have expected him to share his thoughts on the topic.

[faust]

SK!Eevee could of course have used a Strongman kill on silver/joth, if we assume that mafia can't block and kill.

[Eevee]

Eevee, do you really want to make a potential game-losing move with such hand-wavy argumentation?

What do you mean! It's tangible evidence of others actively getting scum lynched while you try to deflect away to town players.

You know, there's a thing called "bussing". Now really, I understand that you would think I'm scum, but is it so out of the question for you that someone else is mafia that you aren't even willing to consider it?

Either you are town, and this is some DoP-like endgame scenario, or you are scum trying to deflect away from your own lack of successful scumhunting.

Of course I'm willing to consider! You just aren't giving me anything to consider.
Jimmm - IC.

WW - Instrumental in driving the Hydrad wagon early, also revived it after it died once. I haven't reread yesterday, but I felt his reads lined up with mine and that he was a contributor in getting IG lynched.

ash - Hammered Hydrad when Jimmm was also at L-1, which is very unmafialike. Less towny yesterday due to the fight with Jimmm, but again, I haven't reread the day so I don't even remember if he helped us lynching IG or not.

faust - Tried to derail the Hydrad wagon multiple times. Avoided the IG lynch yesterday and argued against it.

If you want me to consider ash or WW, you have to make a case and explain why. Just vaguely saying "bussing is a thing" does not a convincing argument make.

[Eevee]

How do you know he hasn't considered it?

If he had, I would have expected him to share his thoughts on the topic.

I have!! Neither ash or WW fit for Hydrad's partner, you do to the dot.