pps: a traveller's guide
So I RVS'd using Fibonacci from the player list which none of you geniuses picked up on. Voting had no effect on TWM, he was notably absent, game stalling, so prodded him.
But I must be the bad guy because hey, look, PPS isn't doing all that stuff he usually does to catalyse a game. Never mind that we're he scum he would definitely be pushing the game much like Vote: mcmc is.
whomst was town.
Why are you voting eevee? I thought it was just to see if we could get something going. We got something better over here on mcmc, you should join us.
Is eevee dumb enough to defend his partner? Does scum!eevee defend a wagon deep townie?
Eevee doesn't look like scum today.
part 1 of a series called
partnery eevee talkVote: Joseph
:((((((((
It's not like I started out of the blue on this game. This is at least 4 games in the making. It's been fleshed out quite a bit more in the previous games so I'm not feeling overly compulsed to make the case all over again. Basically, If I'm in the game then there ought not be willy nilly wagon run-ups because there is a hammer waiting. The first couple of times I tried this I announced intent to hammer at like L-2 or L-3 or even called a player that was obviously about to get runup and stated I'd hammer if he went L-1. In those games it sure seemed a towny enough thing to do. I suppose just doing it unannounced is quite a bit less towny but the meta is the same and the reasons too.
still, still, still, still think this sucks.
-the endgame of this is that people just claim at l-2 when you're there.
-sure, you've done fun hammery stuff in previous games. this was different, and not fun. the example i remember is M87 (looked at M89 & M93 and couldn't find anything) wherein pps at one point decided "these wagons are all smoke and mirrors, i'm just hammering the next thing to get to l-1." i think that in general that's a net negative for town, but there's arguments to be made: it was a point of discussion (and it more or less baited me into tunneling the whole game), and it slightly changes the climate of the game to something people aren't used to. this game didn't do either of these things, he didn't give any reason specific to this game, and it had no effect on this game after D1.
-it absolves pps of having to give any actual read of joseph.
So the good news is we start tomorrow with only one dead townsperson.
didn't you, like, think mcmc was scum? and we were rather close to lynching him?
eevee definitely fought the mcmc wagon. I dunno if eevee partners that hard. I know I sure as hell do not, like ever, never, ever, not even a little bit sometimes. In fact, I'm such an anti partner that my scumpartnertell is the one guy I'm just not talking about or interacting with but still willing to vote. This is so much the case that I really never consider that other players would do such a thing.
The thing is Eevee did a few things I just don't think scum!eevee does. I commented on those things at the time. I may have biased my observations around the idea that mcmc was assumed scum, though.
partnery stuff p2. note that he never just calls eevee town.
I may vote dylan. schadd and I have been way more buddy buddy than eevee and I. Also the conclusions dylan made are that if I am town, he wants to lynch andrew or pps which is basically what I had said about how andrew and pps moved from me to Joseph scummily. He makes no conclusion about what me being town says about eevee. Then he says if I'm scum eevee is certainly scum, which I don't know how he has gotten to. Then he ends with a scummy if we're going to look off wagon twm is the scummy one but doesn't give any reasons whatso ever as to why.
All he is doing is setting up people he wants to lynch with almost no reasons other than mcmc and eevee are buddying eachother.
Also I want to clarify I really think his explaination for why andrew and pps are people he would look to if I were town is indicative of him being scum. After a complete reread it's a really general reasoning that is setting up where he can pivot when I flip town. He's not even thinking about what eevee flipping town would mean which is wierd since it's an eevee/me interaction not just me. It's just very "I've made one read I'm basing all my other reads on so I can change them" I do this as scum lots.
Agree with all this.
up until this point it's kind of ambiguous whether he scumreads mcmc (though later he hard townreads mcmc and says that he had been all of d2). he will later defend the shit out of dylan post-hammer and claim the wagon was scum driven:
Congratulations, scum. I'll have to figure out where they are but nice job getting a mislynch when one of your own was on the block. Considering the hour it's like they got back to back nights.
Robz and mcmc looks scummiest to me atm but a reread is definitely in order.
I'm not convinced Schadd is town, but I don't think he's the right lynch for today.
I'm down to lynch any of schadd, Andrew, and Robz.
and here we are, at mylo (or close to it), where he sheeps ww's team call, with little unhedged reason, no sense of priority, in spite of earlier saying robz and i don't look like partners. no townreads issued on the other folks in this game.
incidentally, when i was looking at his other games to see how much the hammer thing was nonsense, i think i found a good towntell for him: when he's town, he's really engaged, and i can sense that he's trying to figure things out. this game has felt much more like he's rhetorically stumbling into and out of reads and placing himself at different parts of arguments.
he's my ideal lynch today,
vote: pps. i have a bit more to say about the uh other people (i think eevee reciprocates a lot of the hedgy partnery stuff) but i've been at this for a while.
i would like to hear more from everyone about whomst'd they think is town and stuff. my read on robz predicated on the idea that he would, like, deliver, and at some point be able to have better-reasoned reads to share, but that hasn't happened all that much (he was content to drop "schadd or twm" and peace out, which is definitely the scummier side of lurking. i still think that he's town, especially after the re-read, but c'mon)
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