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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1950 on: December 12, 2015, 06:40:00 pm »

Okay, no. I don't like where this is going, at all.

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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1951 on: December 12, 2015, 06:51:33 pm »

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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1952 on: December 12, 2015, 07:04:11 pm »

Okay, no. I don't like where this is going, at all.
Why?
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M Town Wins-Losses (6-2, 75%): 71, 72, 76, 81, 83, 87 - 79, 82.  M Scum Wins-Losses (2-1, 67%): 80, 101 - 70.
RMM Town Wins-Losses (3-1, 75%): 42, 47, 49 - 31.  RMM Scum Wins-Losses (3-3, 50%): 33, 37, 43 - 29, 32, 35.
Modded: M75, M84, RMM38.     Mislynched (M-RMM): None - 42.     Correctly lynched (M-RMM): 101 - 33, 33, 35.       MVPs: RMM37, M87

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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1953 on: December 12, 2015, 07:05:06 pm »

Yeah if we don't lynch WW or faust today then the two most sensible options are e and egork, followed pretty closely by yuma probably, we haven't properly discussed his derphammery stuff and general behaviour for a while.

I still like e most of these options, having reread.
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M Town Wins-Losses (6-2, 75%): 71, 72, 76, 81, 83, 87 - 79, 82.  M Scum Wins-Losses (2-1, 67%): 80, 101 - 70.
RMM Town Wins-Losses (3-1, 75%): 42, 47, 49 - 31.  RMM Scum Wins-Losses (3-3, 50%): 33, 37, 43 - 29, 32, 35.
Modded: M75, M84, RMM38.     Mislynched (M-RMM): None - 42.     Correctly lynched (M-RMM): 101 - 33, 33, 35.       MVPs: RMM37, M87

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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1954 on: December 12, 2015, 07:15:45 pm »

Faust isn't close to being lynched, is he?
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1955 on: December 12, 2015, 07:16:16 pm »

Wait, does he have no votes on him?
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1956 on: December 12, 2015, 07:16:39 pm »

There's a vote count on the previous page, I'm sure you can figure it out.
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1957 on: December 12, 2015, 07:21:42 pm »

Okay, no. I don't like where this is going, at all.

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Occam's razor tell you to do that?
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1958 on: December 12, 2015, 07:24:07 pm »

Okay, no. I don't like where this is going, at all.
Why?

I have basically a guilty result on WW. He has no good explanation for it. This day is supposed to be a standoff between me and him. I saw the vote count - there is only one person voting for either of us. One person! Suppose for a moment that WW and I are both town. In what possible universe does scum simply let go of this chance to get a mislynch in? That's right. WW is scum and we are doing exactly what he wants us to do.
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1959 on: December 12, 2015, 07:40:04 pm »

Something that hasn't been said yet.

I don't think there's any scum team including WW in which WW performs the kill here.  He's too obvious a choice for tracking roles to look at.  The only candidate (excluding Teproc and faust because reasons) is Ampharos.  There I can see WW doing the NK rather than Amph - who I think is town.  In every other pairing I can think of, scum would have had someone less obvious to do the NK.

If that's true then there has to be some redirection here, in which case we have nothing.
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The best reason to lynch Haddock is the meltdown we get to witness on the wagon runup. I mean, we should totally wagon him every day just for the lulz.

M Town Wins-Losses (6-2, 75%): 71, 72, 76, 81, 83, 87 - 79, 82.  M Scum Wins-Losses (2-1, 67%): 80, 101 - 70.
RMM Town Wins-Losses (3-1, 75%): 42, 47, 49 - 31.  RMM Scum Wins-Losses (3-3, 50%): 33, 37, 43 - 29, 32, 35.
Modded: M75, M84, RMM38.     Mislynched (M-RMM): None - 42.     Correctly lynched (M-RMM): 101 - 33, 33, 35.       MVPs: RMM37, M87

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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1960 on: December 12, 2015, 07:42:15 pm »

There's a vote count on the previous page, I'm sure you can figure it out.
Hey, read your PPEs! I got this!
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1961 on: December 12, 2015, 07:43:23 pm »

Not sure I agree. Posit a 2.7, Ampharos, WW scum team for example.

PPE : FWIW, it's fine not to read PPEs, I often just skim for votes in them. In this case I had seen it, I was merely annoyed at you asking us to do the work for you in the first place.
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1962 on: December 12, 2015, 07:44:08 pm »

Better yet, a 2.7, yuma, WW scumteam. WW is definitely doing the kill there.
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1963 on: December 12, 2015, 07:45:12 pm »

Okay, no. I don't like where this is going, at all.
Why?

I have basically a guilty result on WW. He has no good explanation for it. This day is supposed to be a standoff between me and him. I saw the vote count - there is only one person voting for either of us. One person! Suppose for a moment that WW and I are both town. In what possible universe does scum simply let go of this chance to get a mislynch in? That's right. WW is scum and we are doing exactly what he wants us to do.

I don't need a good explanation.  Your result is wrong, or you're lying. 

Your claim that I'm orchestrating this is absurd.
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1964 on: December 12, 2015, 07:50:52 pm »

Something that hasn't been said yet.

I don't think there's any scum team including WW in which WW performs the kill here.  He's too obvious a choice for tracking roles to look at.  The only candidate (excluding Teproc and faust because reasons) is Ampharos.  There I can see WW doing the NK rather than Amph - who I think is town.  In every other pairing I can think of, scum would have had someone less obvious to do the NK.

If that's true then there has to be some redirection here, in which case we have nothing.

I obviously disagree, or I wouldn't have targetted him...
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1965 on: December 12, 2015, 09:40:52 pm »

and I'm here. time to catch up.
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1966 on: December 12, 2015, 09:43:50 pm »

post

Are you the new yuma?

no sorry. I just knew it was around 24 hours and had to post something.
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1967 on: December 12, 2015, 09:44:19 pm »

I guess it's time. Teproc guessed well.

I am Black Widow, the Ninja Tracker.

You can guess what happened last night... I tracked WW, he targetted silver. I don't think that anything he says at this point will make me vote somewhere else.

The Ninja in my role has some interesting implications. Obvious guess is there is another Watching/Tracking role out there. But ashersky has included roles that "do nothing" before, so I'm not sure if it's just for the flavor.

Oh fun!
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1968 on: December 12, 2015, 09:45:58 pm »

I am Daredevil, the Motion Detector

I can target a person each night and learn if they either took an action or were a target of an action (other than mine).   I don't learn which one it was, or their target/source.

Last night I targetted Hydrad and got no result.  I breadcrumbed this as well.  (By that I mean, this is why I said I don't want to lynch Hydrad today.  He's not cleared, but he didn't perform the NK.)

I'm an IC now! woo.

but hmm this is interesting. I'm guessing people have already discussed a bunch about how the claims don't add up right now. lets see if I'm right.
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1969 on: December 12, 2015, 09:47:54 pm »

I have trouble seeing Faust lying here.

I guess if anyone targeted Hydrad, or if Hydrad took an action, that would be interesting to know, though it would mean a soft claim

Hmm I guess I could claim that if people really want to know.
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1970 on: December 12, 2015, 09:50:16 pm »

I guess we should have Hydrad confirm he didn't take an action last night at some point too.

looking like i should claim. I won't till I catch up though incase people bring up reasons not to.
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1971 on: December 12, 2015, 09:50:47 pm »

replace "Silver" with "silver"

I'm sure Silvers happy about that.
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1972 on: December 12, 2015, 09:56:38 pm »

WW, why did you target Hydrad ?

Originally I submitted Yuma, the thought being in that he could potentially be caught in a lie, or possibly half verify his claim.  (Say, he claimed to use his power but there was only one kill, and not from him.)  I decided to change it, though.  My main thought on Hydrad was that he was the kind of guy to claim VT as scum in a game like this.   He was also not very present yesterday and I had no indication towards town or scum.   He'd probably be one of the more likely people to perform a kill on the scum team, too, with getting little attention.

I also expected Yuma to shoot, and I figured the kill flavor would verify him, so my result wouldn't mean a lot.

thats... pretty accurate. I think i usually end up being the one with dirty hands when I'm on the scum team.
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1973 on: December 12, 2015, 10:04:02 pm »

OK I think I'll go with

Vote: WW

Redirecting from me to ss. doesn't really make sense at all for scum. I don't really see why they would do that.

The only way I see it working is if like scum wanted to kill ss but had a busdriver ability and swapped me with silver? I don't really see many other options.

also no I did not take any actions.
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1974 on: December 12, 2015, 10:25:53 pm »

OK I think I'll go with

Vote: WW

Redirecting from me to ss. doesn't really make sense at all for scum. I don't really see why they would do that.

The only way I see it working is if like scum wanted to kill ss but had a busdriver ability and swapped me with silver? I don't really see many other options.

also no I did not take any actions.

Why do you think I'm scum?  What's your explanation here?
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