shraeye, I have no idea what you mean. Could you point me to the post where someone talks about Witherweaver's error before mcmc?
mcmc is the first person to TALK about wither's setup stuff. But he's not the first to analyze it.
The original post seemed pretty clear.. someone said Mcmc was the first to post something reading into my original setup-error post, and Shraeye questioned it, to this end. What's the significance of bringing up that someone can be the first to talk about something, but not the first to analyze it? That other people are reading and thinking, but not posting? That seems sort of, like, an empty statement. Just saying stuff to have other kinds of tangential conversations. hence, spreading confusion.
Cool; I finally can talk about this potentially confusing bit. mcmc was the first to post stuff regarding Wither's question, but he didn't actually analyze it. He just asked people what the odds were that Wither was scum with a vet partner. Ichi is the first person to analyze it, and then mcmc agrees with him.
Asking direct questions at a player and following up the answers is a classic technique. But it is substantially different from asking "hey, who thinks this is scummy?" and then seeing who agrees before following up with your analysis on a subject. The first is one town loves. The second is one that scum loves.
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I think that it's a fabulous idea to lynch a vet, and mcmc's unvote on me is super suspicious. I changed basically none of my opinions. Before, mcmc was voting for me because I was disagreeing with his ideas on no-lynch, and because he says I was asking lots of questions and waiting to represent things how I wanted, which is something scum would love.
Here be the three posts I want to cite:
vote: shraeye
I don't believe he is confused about why no-lynching is bad, that's faked which is only explainable by him being scum(mafia).
I'm not confused; I just disagree. I think people have habits of oversimplifying things, and opinions on no-lynch and random-lynch are a symptom of that.
I did not oversimplify it, I explained it very expanded it is manifestly better to lynch today, if we no lynch we do not gain any lynches and our final lynch will actually be from a larger pool of unkowns.
It seems like Shraeye is being very aggressive and spreading confusion. Maybe this is just his play style.. I'm not sure. My read right now is scum.
He's asking a lot of questions and analyzing people's motivations, which I read as a more towny trait. shraeye's probably my strongest town read so far.
But he is generating reactions as he wants. It is something I follow quite a bit, scum wants to wait for lots of posts, and then analyze them and pressure people after the fact when he can represent it the way he wants and react to it appropriately.
Well, okay then. I have been thinking...Unvote.Vote: Delirious Deleuze because has he even voted?
What is your opinion of shraeye, do you agree or disagree with my points against him?
Then my "Recent posts" that he cites as towny can be summed up as follows:
#200: I'm still not confused about no-lynch; I still just disagree; I still think you were oversimplifying it.
#201: Sure, asking questions is gameable by scum, but it's still what I'm going to do because I find it useful. Feel free to make your own opinions.
So I just reiterate my position on the two things that mcmc says I was scummily doing (and added some bit about "absence doesn't imply scum" and "vets should be helpful"). And somehow this reverses mcmc's opinion of me entirely. That's baloney.
MY impression is that he just got cold feet on pushing the shraeye-lynch once people started expressing townreads on me.