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[Witherweaver]

Sorry I'm not around this weekend.  Will catch up Monday.

[schadd]

bones


if i don't fall asleep i'll do the thing hold on

[ashersky]

I'm also slightly but not really around.

[The_Wine_Merchant]

Is mcmc vLA, on mobile or i would check myself? I really want to hear from him on some things.

[QuickSync]

Is mcmc vLA, on mobile or i would check myself? I really want to hear from him on some things.

IDK if they are V/LA or not, but both you and Mcmc are pretty much Town cleared based on IDP Town spew.

[SpaceAnemone]

Is mcmc vLA, on mobile or i would check myself? I really want to hear from him on some things.

Yes, he's posted a VLA for this weekend in the VLA thread.

[SpaceAnemone]

I'm now back home, and more or less up to date on reading.

My preliminary reactions to stuff from over the weekend are that I thought Cuzz was townie last time I did a read, so it's odd that he's attracting so much attention now. I'd be interested to see whether that's something mcmc agreed with in the reads I gave in D1, too.

I think I've scumread Ash every time I've played with him, so he's maybe even more of a blind spot for me than e is, in terms of being able to read.

[Witherweaver]

Is mcmc vLA, on mobile or i would check myself? I really want to hear from him on some things.

IDK if they are V/LA or not, but both you and Mcmc are pretty much Town cleared based on IDP Town spew.

What is IDP Town spew?

[SpaceAnemone]

Just a couple more thoughts before sleep.

On Cuzz, I do agree he's on an interesting place on both the TWM wagon around #442 and the Robz wagon around #471, especially knowing that Robz was town (and personally also knowing that I'm town). I need to do more re-reading, but I like looking at wagon movement first for the overview.

Another thing from looking at wagons: schadd is the only person e voted for in D1. It's not like he was tunneling him and and encouraging everyone else to vote like he did on his recent D1 tunnel on me in another game. This was much less vocal. He came into D2 saying he wanted to vote off-wagon because it gave him better odds, and he put schadd in the most-likely-to-be-scum place on his reads list, then suddenly voted for an on-wagon person with no justification at all. That seems a bit off. What's going on behind the scenes, e?

[The_Wine_Merchant]

Is mcmc vLA, on mobile or i would check myself? I really want to hear from him on some things.

IDK if they are V/LA or not, but both you and Mcmc are pretty much Town cleared based on IDP Town spew.

What is IDP Town spew?

No idea. I rare know what QS is saying. He is like schadd but with capitalization and punctuation.

[QuickSync]

Is mcmc vLA, on mobile or i would check myself? I really want to hear from him on some things.

IDK if they are V/LA or not, but both you and Mcmc are pretty much Town cleared based on IDP Town spew.

What is IDP Town spew?

Its the theory that because IDP shaded the people he has that is evidence that those people he shaded are Town.

[The_Wine_Merchant]

Is mcmc vLA, on mobile or i would check myself? I really want to hear from him on some things.

IDK if they are V/LA or not, but both you and Mcmc are pretty much Town cleared based on IDP Town spew.

What is IDP Town spew?

Its the theory that because IDP shaded the people he has that is evidence that those people he shaded are Town.

What is shaded?

[QuickSync]

Is mcmc vLA, on mobile or i would check myself? I really want to hear from him on some things.

IDK if they are V/LA or not, but both you and Mcmc are pretty much Town cleared based on IDP Town spew.

What is IDP Town spew?

Its the theory that because IDP shaded the people he has that is evidence that those people he shaded are Town.

What is shaded?

That would be where someone throws suspicion on someone that doesn't stand up to scrutiny or just generic arguments for why someone is Scum. Shading is typically done in short posts that don't explain a whole lot. Its basically someone throwing out a one liner for why someone is Scum that doesn't make for a very good post, such as "TWM looks Scummy, I don't like their tone" or "This post looks forced". Neither of these examples go into any detail at all regarding Tone or why it was forced. This method can work because there are people where they whole playstyle falls along these lines of shading as both Town and Scum and its a nightmare to try and get a read on these people.

[Cuzz]

Is mcmc vLA, on mobile or i would check myself? I really want to hear from him on some things.

IDK if they are V/LA or not, but both you and Mcmc are pretty much Town cleared based on IDP Town spew.

What is IDP Town spew?

Its the theory that because IDP shaded the people he has that is evidence that those people he shaded are Town.

What is shaded?

That would be where someone throws suspicion on someone that doesn't stand up to scrutiny or just generic arguments for why someone is Scum. Shading is typically done in short posts that don't explain a whole lot. Its basically someone throwing out a one liner for why someone is Scum that doesn't make for a very good post, such as "TWM looks Scummy, I don't like their tone" or "This post looks forced". Neither of these examples go into any detail at all regarding Tone or why it was forced. This method can work because there are people where they whole playstyle falls along these lines of shading as both Town and Scum and its a nightmare to try and get a read on these people.

So why does IDP shading someone make that person more likely to be town?

[Witherweaver]

Is mcmc vLA, on mobile or i would check myself? I really want to hear from him on some things.

IDK if they are V/LA or not, but both you and Mcmc are pretty much Town cleared based on IDP Town spew.

What is IDP Town spew?

Its the theory that because IDP shaded the people he has that is evidence that those people he shaded are Town.

Oh, I somehow thought you were talking about Dylan.

[Witherweaver]

It doesn't seem like something that someone wouldn't do to their partners.

I had thought that TWM is less likely now as he was a leading wagon before IDPTG.

[Witherweaver]

Ash's entry posts are a bit suspicious in the sense of overemphasizing a lack of knowledge.

[Witherweaver]

So Robz didn't give a ton of reads at all. He was convinced IDPTG was scum though, or at least enough that he was pushing IDPTG exclusively in order to get a lynch in.  He thought mcmc was town, and very early on said he thought TWM sounded towny, but no real reasoning given for either really.

I think Robz just presents exaggerations of reads in general. 

[Witherweaver]

Should Awaclus have gotten town points for being I believe the first to suggest Vig claiming to be IC? Seems like a pretty protown plan the way it has worked so far, unless he was playing the long game and just wanted to know who it was to nk it later, maybe post cop claim/pre vig shot.

No.  That's the natural thing if we don't want them to shoot.  Scum likes to be protown, especially if it's about something that anyone could come up with.

[Witherweaver]

Vote: cuzz

'Cuzz why?

[Witherweaver]

Phone post so please excuse a lack of quotes and formatting. I don't like what Quicksync and TWM have been doing the most. Eevee didn't give me much to go off of and WW didn't change that too much. Schadd and Awaclus remind me of themselves so townish on schadd and I don't know how to read Awaclus at all. Mcmc seems reminiscent of either M94 or M96, whichever one he wasn't the scum inventor in (I forget which it was. It's been a while), so I'm inclined to lean town. I don't remember much from Space so no comment there either. Luckat hasn't been that vocal either. Dylan's our IC, so naturally he's town. I like what Cuzz has posted. I don't remember much from e either and Robz has been getting a lot of attention but I don't think it's scum driven.

I'd put QS in my lynch pool, but I think that's based on my dislike of his early posts and the way he seemed to be going about the game rather than any scum read. TWM is V/LA so I'd rather not lynch him but I will to get a lynch through.

So my pool is basically Robz, luckat, or Space with a maybe on TWM. I'm not sure where I'll be at the deadline (and probably should have said I'd be V/LA rather than semi-V/LA). I don't know how well lurker lynches go, so I'll vote: Robz and try to check in later, but no guarantees.

PPE: 2

parsing out this post from IDPTG into something more referable

Want to lynch: Robz, luckat, space
Would lynch: QS, TWM
Null: WW, schadd, e
Town read: Awaclus (mentions him twice, huh?), mcmc, Dylan, Cuzz

I would guess there is one partner in the want-would lynch area and one in the null-town area. All players in his would/want to lynch area were on his wagon except for me.

Oh, this is a good post.  And conclusions.  Notably for you the former reduces to one in {Luckat, Space, QS}.

[Witherweaver]

I think TWM's case on me actually makes me lean towards a townread on him. It seems like genuine scumhunting and I'd find it reasonable if I didn't know my own alignment. It reminds me a little of faust's case on me in M100, (where we were both town and he ended up vigging me).

AntiOMGUS

[Witherweaver]

Good call.  If we lynch mafia today, I think the Vig could consider shooting, maybe TWMing it.

Horrible idea. TWM is Town for IDP shading him.

BTW:

Vote: Cuzz

Boom!

I think he means selecting randomly from a small set of targets as TWM suggested.  And I think TWM is town by the way he is acting.

[Witherweaver]

BTW Cuzz is repping VT so if he claims a PR, I am not going to buy it for a second.

I don't get why you'd say this.

[mcmcsalot]

Is mcmc vLA, on mobile or i would check myself? I really want to hear from him on some things.

What do you want to hear about? I'm caught up now.

Baseline thoughts, I'm dont have super strong reads on people this game, I would rather lynch 2.7 or shcadd compared to cuzz but I don't have strong reasons. I'm confused on if I no-longer find twm scummy or if my attempts to not tunnel have led me to over-town read him. So lotta
Meh.