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[Roadrunner7671]

No, we are not joking. Nothing that has been said seems particularly out of line or insulting to yuma or me. Your perception is just different, and it comes as a surprise to both of us.

So this is just a conspiracy to take cheap shots at RR?

First Yuma's 'stupid test' (not my words) now this?

You may be being presumptuous.

That's probable.

But you see what they're doing, right?
Yuma/SS scum team?

Is that a joke?

Just the bolded part.

[Witherweaver]

Low.

Who here remembers the previous three times that we lynched based on math and won every time?

You mean never?

No, I mean the times when math correctly pointed to who was scum. Even with your game *sighs* strong maths has still a great record, empirically. Before your game, it was a flawless one.

Or a coincidental one.  The problem here is you're ignoring all other aspects of the game.  Those probabilities are not accurate if you take into account all the information you have---how people are playing.

[silverspawn]

Low.

Who here remembers the previous three times that we lynched based on math and won every time?

You mean never?

No, I mean the times when math correctly pointed to who was scum. Even with your game *sighs* strong maths has still a great record, empirically. Before your game, it was a flawless one.

Or a coincidental one.  The problem here is you're ignoring all other aspects of the game.  Those probabilities are not accurate if you take into account all the information you have---how people are playing.

Yes-- because reads are weak compared to this kind of chance. I ignore the rest because I acknowledge that I'm not that good at the game.

If the math said 60/40, then we could talk about weighing it against reads n stuff.

[silverspawn]

No, we are not joking. Nothing that has been said seems particularly out of line or insulting to yuma or me. Your perception is just different, and it comes as a surprise to both of us.

So this is just a conspiracy to take cheap shots at RR?

First Yuma's 'stupid test' (not my words) now this?

You may be being presumptuous.

That's probable.

But you see what they're doing, right?
Yuma/SS scum team?

Is that a joke?

Just the bolded part.

It can't be yuma and me. I'm bounded to chairs. Either we are both scum or both town. Spoiler: we are both town.

[Roadrunner7671]

Silverspawn, I have two questions:
1. Are you on the right page?
2. Are you on my page?
Ppe

[Axxle]

What's the math of it being VBTTTT vs MVBTTT? Isn't that what we should be looking at?

[Roadrunner7671]

Silverspawn, I have two questions:
1. Are you on the right page?
2. Are you on my page?
Ppe

'The longer you take to answer, the more suspicious I get.'

[Axxle]

Math aside though, I've had a town read on ss, not so much chairs, and I don't think either of them would risk fakeclaiming masons in this situation.

[Axxle]

Silverspawn, I have two questions:
1. Are you on the right page?
2. Are you on my page?
Ppe

Rr, I get you're pissed, and somewhat understandably if you're town. Can you just state "it was a joke, and you literally quoted where I said it was a joke" instead of being passive aggressive and aggregating the situation?

[silverspawn]

What's the math of it being VBTTTT vs MVBTTT? Isn't that what we should be looking at?

No, it's VBMTTT vs VBMMMT. Scenario with no UB has one M roll, scenario with UB has 3.

[Roadrunner7671]

Silverspawn, I have two questions:
1. Are you on the right page?
2. Are you on my page?
Ppe

Rr, I get you're pissed, and somewhat understandably if you're town. Can you just state "it was a joke, and you literally quoted where I said it was a joke" instead of being passive aggressive and aggregating the situation?

I'm talking about SS trying to get me to claim my targets.

[silverspawn]

well of course you should claim your targets...

[Roadrunner7671]

well of course you should claim your targets...

This is what I mean. This is insulting.

Am I the only one on the right page???

[Roadrunner7671]

And all my question marks turned into emoticons. That is an accurate summary of my day.

[chairs]

okay, so.

Realtalk: RR - it is to Town benefit that you claim your RB targets for the nights where you were roleblocker. This is because it can help us verify your likelihood of actually being the UB -> RB. If you're really that, then we're looking at Awaclus/WW/Yuma as lynch options. Hilariously, I've actually thought for most of this day that the scum team is probably Awaclus/Yuma (long story short, this is the one time yuma could bus his partner, get away with it hard, and look super town and also super yuma simultaneously).

From my perspective: I know the following things.

chairs - Town Mason.
silverspawn - Town Mason.
Axxle - Town 1-shot Vigilante.
--
Awaclus - ??
RR - ??
WW - ??
Yuma - ??

If we say RR - UB-> RB, then suddenly I have 3 lynch choices, and 2 scum in 3. Since awaclus is my top scum read, that makes me very much lean towards Awaclus.

Silverspawn is leaning towards you because statistically it's unlikely to have masons -and- a 1-shot vigilante -and- a UB. I think it's better to assume you're town for the moment, at least for lynching purposes, and then we should:

1) determine who your partner might be, in case you're scum
2) lynch from Awaclus/WW/Yuma.

If we lynch from that pool, then it's basically guaranteed Axxle dies tonight unless we lynch the strongman and you (as RB) luck into roleblocking the remaining Mafia - in which case we guarantee the win anyway.

[chairs]

I'm not trying to be insulting, I just don't understand why you're taking offence to being asked to claim your RB targets.

[Roadrunner7671]

Now, I realize how irrational I'm being, but ask yourself this SS:
Would you be doing this if someone else claimed UB?
PPE 2

[Axxle]

well of course you should claim your targets...

This is what I mean. This is insulting.

Am I the only one on the right page???

I'll translate for you, ss:

"I haven't fking been able to target anyone. Hydrad died last night. I'm not an idiot and it's really insulting you'd think I'd fall for this trap if I was fakeclaiming."

[Roadrunner7671]

I'm not trying to be insulting, I just don't understand why you're taking offence to being asked to claim your RB targets.

Now I'm questioning my own sanity.
Ppe

[Axxle]

I guess I needed to translate for chairs too.

[yuma]

It's insulting to ask you to claim your targets? Or do you just need more time to come up with answers?

At this point I think it's for my wincon to flip. It's okay to think I'm scum, but this is sort of degrading.

it would be helpful if you explained why it was degrading...

Is this a joke?

Hey. Cool down. Seeing if someone slips up is a legitimate way to scum hunt. You are the one taking it personally when it is legitimate to do that to anyone.

And yeah... If you had explained why it was insulting instead of being passive aggressive this convo would have lasted two posts instead of 25.

[yuma]

I mean I knew what ss was doing and chose not to post and state it to see how you react. If you had said hydrad died last night nice try it would ended and we would have moved on. Instead you reacted as you did.

[chairs]

I honestly didn't know when we lost the roleblocker, so after I posted that I went back to review.

[chairs]

Anyway, now that we've cleared that up...

vote: awaclus with me!

[yuma]

Anyway, now that we've cleared that up...

vote: awaclus with me!

Why him over RR? Or did you explain in that big post I just glossed over cause it is late?