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[Twistedarcher]

Age I Hand V:

Qvist builds Clay Pool: Produce Brick.
MIchaeljb builds the first stage of his wonder, paying 1 to Qvist for stone.
Tables builds Lumber Yard: Produce Wood.
Ahoppy  builds the first stage of his wonder, paying 2 to Tables for 2 stone.
Archetype builds Workshop: Gear. Chain to: Archery Range & Laboratory. Cost: Glass, paying 1 to Ahoppy for Glass.
Liopoil buids the first stage of his wonder.
Nkirbit builds the first stage of his wonder, paying 2 to Qvist for cloth.


Qvist as Olympia (B)
Coins: 5
Strength: 1
Wonder stages built: 1
Wonder Stage 1: 2 Wood - Buy B/S/W/O for 1 from neighbors - Complete
Wonder Stage 2: 2 Stone - 5 VP - Incomplete
Wonder Stage 3 - 2 Ore, 1 Cloth - Use a neighbor's guild -- Incomplete


Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Wood
Timber Yard: Produce Stone/Wood. Cost: 1 Coin.
Clay Pool: Produce Brick.
Loom: Produce Cloth.

Stockade: 1 Shield. Cost: Wood.

Michaeljb as Alexandria (B)
Coins: 2
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 1
Wonder Stage 1 - 2 Stone - Produce W/S/O/B - Complete
Wonder Stage 2 - 2 Wood - Produce G/C/P - Incomplete
Wonder Stage 3 - 3 Stone - 7 VPs

Tableau
Stone Pit: Produce Stone.
Lumber Yard: Produce Wood.
Wonder Resource: Produce Glass

West Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the left (from Qvist). Chain to: Forum.

Baths: 3 VPs. Chain to: Aqueduct. Cost: Stone.


Tables as Gizah (A)
Coins: 8
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 0
Wonder Stage 1 - 2 Stone - 3 VPs - Incomplete
Wonder Stage 2 - 3 Wood - 5 VPs - Incomplete
Wonder Stage 3 - 4 Stone - 7 VPs - Incomplete

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Stone
Forest Cave: Produce Wood/Ore. Cost: 1 Coin.
Excavation: Produce Stone/Brick. Cost: 1 Coin.
Lumber Yard: Produce Wood.

Tavern: 5 Coins.

Baths: 3 VPs. Chain to: Aqueduct. Cost: Stone.

Ahoppy as Ephesos (B)
Coins: 6
Strength: 1
Wonder stages built: 1
Wonder Stage 1 - 2 Stone - 2 VPs, 4 Coins -- Complete
Wonder Stage 2 - 2 Wood - 3 VPs, 4 Coins -- Incomplete
Wonder Stage 3 - 1 Glass, 1 Cloth, 1 Papyrus - 5 VPs, 4 Coins -- Incomplete

Tableau
Clay Pool: Produce Brick.
Wonder Resource: Produce Papyrus
Glassworks: Produce Glass.

West Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the left (from Tables). Chain to: Forum.

Guard Tower: 1 Shield. Cost: Brick.

Archetype as Rhodes (B)
Coins: 1
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 0
Wonder Stage 1 - 3 Stone - 1 Shield, 3 VPs, 3 Coins - Incomplete
Wonder Stage 2 - 4 Ore - 1 Shield, 4 VPs, 4 Coins - Incomplete

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Ore
Ore Vein: Produce Ore.

East Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the right (Liopoil). Chain to: Forum.
Marketplace: Manufactured Goods cost 1 to buy from both sides. Chain to: Caravansery.

Apothecary: Compasses. Chain to: Stables & Dispensary. Cost: Cloth.
Workshop: Gear. Chain to: Archery Range & Laboratory. Cost: Glass.

Liopoil as Halikarnassos (A)
Coins: 2
Strength: 2
Wonder stages built: 1
Wonder Stage 1 - 2 Brick - 3 VPs - Complete
Wonder Stage 2 - 3 Ore - Play one discarded card - Incomplete
Wonder Stage 3 - 2 Cloth - 7 VPs - Incomplete

Tableau
Tree Farm: Produce Wood/Brick. Cost: 1 Coin.
Clay Pit: Produce Brick/Ore. Cost: 1 Coin.
Wonder Resource: Produce Cloth

Barracks: 1 Shield. Cost: Ore.
Stockade: 1 Shield. Cost: Wood.

Nkirbit as Babylon (B)
Coins: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 1
Wonder Stage 1 - 1 Brick, 1 Cloth - 3 VPs - Complete
Wonder Stage 2 - 2 Wood, 1 Glass - Use both cards at the end of an age - Incomplete
Wonder Stage 3 - 3 Brick, 1 Papyrus - Tablet/Compass/Gear - Incomplete

Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Brick
Mine: Produce Ore/Stone. Cost: 1 Coin.
Press: Produce Papyrus.

East Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the right (Qvist). Chain to: Forum.

Scriptorium: Tablet. Chain to: Courthouse & Library. Cost: Papyrus.

[Twistedarcher]

Everyone should have their final hand!

As a reminder, this is the last hand of the age. You do not pass your hand after this selection, rather you discard your unused card.

[AHoppy]

I should have 4 more coins. I got them from my wonder stage

[Twistedarcher]

I should have 4 more coins. I got them from my wonder stage

Fixed

[AHoppy]

Thanks

DONE

[eHalcyon]

Way to go Rhodes!  Defy those stereotypes!

[Twistedarcher]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice
Qvist -
Michaeljb -
Tables -
Ahoppy - DONE
Archetype -
liopoil -
Nkirbit - 

eHalc, you know you want to know all the hands for Age II 

[eHalcyon]

Nah, but if you have a spectator's QT I would post in it.  I don't want to know hands because then I will spend too much time commenting on them.

[nkirbit]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice
Qvist -
Michaeljb -
Tables -
Ahoppy - DONE
Archetype -
liopoil -
Nkirbit - DONE

[Tables]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice
Qvist -
Michaeljb -
Tables - DONE
Ahoppy - DONE
Archetype -
liopoil -
Nkirbit - DONE

[liopoil]

players can look through the discard pile at all times, correct? is it known who discards what?

[eHalcyon]

players can look through the discard pile at all times, correct? is it known who discards what?

I believe this is false.  To my knowledge, discards are hidden.  The only exception* is with Halikarnassos, but Hali can only look at the discard when he builds the wonder that lets him do it.  He cannot check the discard before deciding whether to build the wonder.

*that is, in the base game.  The Leaders expansion adds a leader (Solomon) with the same power.

[liopoil]

hmmmm. I'll check the rules, and I'd like to hear what TA says too. That really matters for me, as I happen to have halikarnassos. Athough, I could track the cards...

[AHoppy]

I'm pretty sure that eHalc is right.  You can only look through it once you build your wonder.  and you can't totally track it, you don't know what people buried in their wonder

[liopoil]

Couldn't find specifics in the rules, but I think you are right. It said they are discarded face down.

[michaeljb]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice
Qvist -
Michaeljb - DONE
Tables - DONE
Ahoppy - DONE
Archetype -
liopoil -
Nkirbit - DONE

[liopoil]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice
Qvist -
Michaeljb - DONE
Tables - DONE
Ahoppy - DONE
Archetype -
liopoil - DONE
Nkirbit - DONE

[Twistedarcher]

You cannot look through the discard.

[eHalcyon]

FWIW, I don't think anyone has discarded any cards yet?  I might have missed it though; I'm no following closely.  If you build that wonder at the end of the age, thre is a decent amount of tracking you can do.  Usually you can figure out everyone's hands and what they are likely to build.

[liopoil]

Nobody has discarded yet, but we all will this turn. I'll do the tracking later

[Tables]

It's never explicitly stated that the discard pile is hidden information. However, considering the Halikarnassos power explicitly lets you look through the discard pile, and all discards are face down, the reasonable assumption from that is that discards are secret.

[AHoppy]

If he were to build the stage this turn, he wouldn't get to look through the cards we discard at the end of the age right?

[Archetype]

Quote this and put DONE by your name after you send your choice
Qvist -
Michaeljb - DONE
Tables - DONE
Ahoppy - DONE
Archetype - DONE
liopoil - DONE
Nkirbit - DONE

[eHalcyon]

If he were to build the stage this turn, he wouldn't get to look through the cards we discard at the end of the age right?

He actually does get to choose from cards discarded on the same turn he builds the wonder.

[Archetype]

I'm fairly certain Tables, AHoppy, and eHalc are all right. At least, that's how we played it the last time I was Halikarnassos on here.

Way to go Rhodes!  Defy those stereotypes!

Haha, but is this the right strategy...hm...