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Re: RMM18 - Guilds Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1800 on: November 21, 2014, 12:12:57 pm »

Having joth townier than both EFHW and BA seems really weird to me.

Point taken. I set it up that way for logical flow.

I would probably make it more like EFHW->BA->Joth as I believe EFHW is truly town and scum can easily confirm that. If BA is scum then so is joth but if joth is scum BA is not by necessity but in my opinion more likely to be.
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Re: RMM18 - Guilds Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1801 on: November 21, 2014, 12:38:59 pm »

I've got a loan and had not paid for it. Also I am missing 2 coins, while after D1 I've got one additional coin

If everyone got their loan at the end of the night like I did then egor would be lying because he would not have had the option to pay for it or not pay for it. Here, egor makes it sound like he chose not to pay off.

I got a loan at the beginning of the night.
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Re: RMM18 - Guilds Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1802 on: November 21, 2014, 12:41:10 pm »

Me and eevee shooting eachother is horrible.

If eevee is sk we want to direct his shot till we have killed at least a couple scum.

Mafia is who would really like for town to waste time killing the sk.
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Re: RMM18 - Guilds Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1803 on: November 21, 2014, 12:49:52 pm »

I've got a loan and had not paid for it. Also I am missing 2 coins, while after D1 I've got one additional coin

If everyone got their loan at the end of the night like I did then egor would be lying because he would not have had the option to pay for it or not pay for it. Here, egor makes it sound like he chose not to pay off.

I got a loan at the beginning of the night.

Maybe because you are town and you were on the lynch wagon thus gaining a loan due to my power. Maybe BA just scum slipped because he was on the wagon too.
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Re: RMM18 - Guilds Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1804 on: November 21, 2014, 12:50:33 pm »

Also, why is there a general panic about the day ending tomorrow?

Day 3 ends on Monday, November 27th, at 2:30 PM FT.

minus the 72 hours PPS talked about.....November 24, at 2:30 PM FT.

Which means we still have minimum 3 days, maximum 6.

Monday is the 24th!  So is it Monday the 24th or Thursday the 27th?

Sorry, the Monday is copy-pasted from D2.  Deadline is on Thursday the 27th.
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Re: RMM18 - Guilds Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1805 on: November 21, 2014, 12:51:00 pm »

Me and eevee shooting eachother is horrible.

If eevee is sk we want to direct his shot till we have killed at least a couple scum.

Mafia is who would really like for town to waste time killing the sk.

How many town can we afford to have you kill with misses?  And could you really both be town?

But I'm not fighting for the idea.  I just want it to be considered with the rest.
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Re: RMM18 - Guilds Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1806 on: November 21, 2014, 12:51:59 pm »

Vote Count 3.5:

2.71828..... (3): Eevee, pingpongsam, Witherweaver
pingpongsam (1): faust
Witherweaver (1): mcmcsalot
EgorK (1): Beyond Awesome
Not Voting (4): jotheonah, EgorK, 2.71828....., EFHW

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

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Re: RMM18 - Guilds Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1807 on: November 21, 2014, 12:52:11 pm »

Also, why is there a general panic about the day ending tomorrow?

Day 3 ends on Monday, November 27th, at 2:30 PM FT.

minus the 72 hours PPS talked about.....November 24, at 2:30 PM FT.

Which means we still have minimum 3 days, maximum 6.

Monday is the 24th!  So is it Monday the 24th or Thursday the 27th?

Sorry, the Monday is copy-pasted from D2.  Deadline is on Thursday the 27th.
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Re: RMM18 - Guilds Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1808 on: November 21, 2014, 01:12:36 pm »

Me and eevee shooting eachother is horrible.

If eevee is sk we want to direct his shot till we have killed at least a couple scum.

Mafia is who would really like for town to waste time killing the sk.

How many town can we afford to have you kill with misses?  And could you really both be town?

But I'm not fighting for the idea.  I just want it to be considered with the rest.

If one of me and eevee is sk we are 6T/3M/1sk if we lynch town. 5/3/1 scum kills one town 4/3/1 we are at either 2/3/1 or 3/2/1.

However if we lynch town and eevee and I shoot eachother we still go 5/3/1 scumm kills one town 4/3/1 me and eevee shoot eachother 3/3/0 we lose.

Actually this almost leads me to believe whoever has suggested eevee and I shoot eachother is really suspicious. That is the worst idea for town.

If we lunch scum we are at 6/2/1 and we are fine.

The only time me and eevee shooting is bad for town is if we are wrong about Joth/efhw. If scum is in egork/ww/pps/Faust/2.7 me and eevee should absolutely shoot there.
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Re: RMM18 - Guilds Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1809 on: November 21, 2014, 01:50:50 pm »

I've made no mention of directing vigs in any way. I think that is almost always a bad idea and often is a scum tell, too.
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Re: RMM18 - Guilds Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1810 on: November 21, 2014, 03:28:49 pm »

2/3/1 is also a loss, right?   This is why I actually think maybe you should not shoot,  or you two should shoot the same person. 3/2/1 could also turn out badly.   We lynch scum 3 1 1 then worst case 2 town nks 1 1 1.  lynch scum and sk kills the last town, or lynch sk scum wins.
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Re: RMM18 - Guilds Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1811 on: November 21, 2014, 09:17:58 pm »

I feel we should use the vigs. Maybe not direct them. But I think the odds are strong that the vigs hit at least one scum and thats a risk I am willing to take
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Re: RMM18 - Guilds Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1812 on: November 22, 2014, 12:02:14 pm »

Nothing but crickets.  Time to lynch?
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Re: RMM18 - Guilds Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1813 on: November 22, 2014, 12:54:17 pm »

If you insist.

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Re: RMM18 - Guilds Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1814 on: November 22, 2014, 01:36:28 pm »

Did you do the thing?
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Re: RMM18 - Guilds Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1815 on: November 22, 2014, 02:00:41 pm »

Did you do the thing?

I definitely did the thing. Now we wait.
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Re: RMM18 - Guilds Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1816 on: November 22, 2014, 02:07:29 pm »

Did you do the thing?

I definitely did the thing. Now we wait.

The hit him with 4 weight thing or the I forgot we needed one more weight thing?

Either way, I am sure there is another willing voter but I seem to recall you needing to hammer to get rewarded.
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Re: RMM18 - Guilds Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1817 on: November 22, 2014, 02:08:43 pm »

I don't think I'm voting.
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Re: RMM18 - Guilds Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1818 on: November 22, 2014, 03:07:42 pm »

The thing has been done.  Now we wait for the stuffs.
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Re: RMM18 - Guilds Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1819 on: November 22, 2014, 05:31:38 pm »

Vote Count 3.6:

2.71828..... 4): Eevee, pingpongsam, Witherweaver, faust
Witherweaver (1): mcmcsalot
EgorK (1): Beyond Awesome
Not Voting (4): jotheonah, EgorK, 2.71828....., EFHW

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Day 3 ends on Thursday, November 27th, at 2:30 PM FT.
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Re: RMM18 - Guilds Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1820 on: November 22, 2014, 05:41:07 pm »

vote: faust

same old song and dance.  I don't know what his game is, but I don't think it is a town one.
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Re: RMM18 - Guilds Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1821 on: November 22, 2014, 08:26:09 pm »

vote: faust

same old song and dance.  I don't know what his game is, but I don't think it is a town one.

This looks like that thing my scum team did when we knew we had it locked up in the end. So, faust, WW and egork are the team, huh? And they won already it seems.
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Re: RMM18 - Guilds Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1822 on: November 22, 2014, 08:34:02 pm »

Either, faust just did what he promised to e or a fix is in and requires another partner likely egork, so

Vote: faust

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Re: RMM18 - Guilds Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1823 on: November 22, 2014, 08:34:59 pm »

That Faust indicates he did something but the official vote count indicates it was not put e to lynch makes me highly suspicious.
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Re: RMM18 - Guilds Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1824 on: November 22, 2014, 08:43:21 pm »

I hope you are wrong!   Last time he did it in two stages,  but I guess that was on purpose.   How do you figure any group of 3 could have the game won?

He probably has loans now,  so I won't vote for him until we hear from him.   Maybe someone has a day role block.
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