To an almost absurd degree, we keep having conversations about basically just MiX and chairs. This is partly due to MiX's aggressive and unhelpful self-preservationist style, but we also don't need to keep catering to it.
OK counter argument to this. Details to follow. But in at least moderate agreement with the Space Analysis - the options revolving around Chairs/MiX are fairly limited. During the heat of Day 1, it was Joth v Chairs v MiX. Chairs gets run up, doesn't happen. MiX gets run up, doesn't happen. Joth gets run up, doesn't happen. MiX gets run up again... doesn't happen. And then Joth get's lynched.
So when I ran VCA I was primarily ISOing out MiX and Chairs and the combinations of alignments they could have.
1. = Town/Town
2. = Skum/Skum
3. = Skum!MiX/Town!Chairs
4. = Skum!Chairs/Town!MiX
Vote Count 1.3 – 1 day out
chairs (4): Galzria, scolapasta, Isis, jotheonah
jotheonah (4): MiX, chairs, WestCoastDidds, Swowl
Isis (2): EFHW, SpaceAnemone
Swowl (2): LaLight, Robz888,
LaLight (1): Dylan32
- So I believe this is the count that Space was mentioning (MiX, Chairs, Swowl, and WCD on Joth).
- For me, with some bias I suppose... the interesting VC is not a VC, but what happens after the next two moves (Robz and LL move from Swowl to Chairs) is the VC I am looking at. That puts us here:
chairs (6): Galzria, scolapasta, Isis, jotheonah, Robz, LaLight (x-1)
jotheonah (4): MiX, chairs, WestCoastDidds, Swowl
Isis (2): EFHW, SpaceAnemone
LaLight (1): Dylan32
1. = Could be a thing. Would be weird from my pov, bc I know I am town, so that is no skum on Joth at this point at all. Would probably mean at least 1 skum off wagons, which would explain the multitudes of ups and downs we go through from this point forward.
2. = Could be. Mainly because the next sets of moves is the dismantling of the Chairs wagon. If the case, or if chairs is skum at all, would make Robz/LL very unlikely as partner. Also the whole MiX not wanting to hammer chairs thing comes into play there.
3. = Possible. Though, Dylan, Robz and LL both move over to MiX... and 2/3 of those people are super high on my radar, so that is a fence for me.
4. = Seems most likely for me. Between the above count to the below (next) count, we go from a chairs wagon of [Galzria, scolapasta, Isis, jotheonah, Robz, LaLight] to a chairs wagon of [Pasta, Isis, Joth, MiX, Space]. So, Pasta, Isis, Joth stay where they were on chairs. Galz gets off chairs to Joth, Robz and LL get onto MiX. I guess if anything that FOS's galz more than the others in that set.
- Dylan votes MiX (LL)
- Robz unvotes
- LL votes MiX (Chairs)
- Joth votes MiX (chairs)
- Galz votes Joth (chairs)
- Robz votes MiX (no vote)
- Joth votes back to chairs (MiX)
- MiX votes chairs (Joth)
- Space votes Chairs (Isis)
brings us here:
Isis (1): EFHW
jotheonah (4): , chairs, WestCoastDidds, Swowl, Galzria
MiX (3): Dylan32, LaLight, Robz
chairs (5): , scolapasta, Isis, jotheonah, MiX, Space
- Isis votes MiX (Chairs)
- Galz votes MiX (Joth)
- Pasta votes MiX (Chairs) (X-1)
puts us here:
Isis (1): EFHW
jotheonah (3): , chairs, WestCoastDidds, Swowl,
MiX (6): Dylan32, LaLight, Robz, Isis, Galz, Pasta (x-1)
chairs (3): jotheonah, MiX, Space
- Isis votes Charis
- Galz votes Joth (MiX)
- Joth votes MiX (X-1)
- MiX votes Isis (Chairs)
- WCD votes Isis (Joth)
brings us to VC 1.4 - 1.5 hours out of DL
MiX (5): Dylan32, LaLight, Robz888, scolapasta, jotheonah
Isis (3): EFHW, MiX, WestCoastDidds
jotheonah (3): chairs, Swowl, Galzria
chairs (2): SpaceAnemone, Isis
1. = OK possible
2. = Becoming unlikely. As this is immediately followed by Chairs putting MiX at L-1
3. = Starting to not think this is likely at this point either. I would assume that of the 5 players on MiX [Dylan32, LaLight, Robz888, scolapasta, jotheonah] if mix is skum here there has to be like at least 1 bus right? except like no one leaves here after for while...
4. = OK yeah this could be a thing. again. Skum chairs on MiX... probably like another skum on there, and/or 1-2 skum off that want to keep wagons split and not look skummy for hammering or have expressed no interest in mix to this point.
- WCD votes Joth (Isis)
- Chairs votes MiX (Joth) (X-1)
- Mix votes Joth (Isis)
Vote Count 1.5
MiX (6): Dylan32, LaLight, Robz888, scolapasta, jotheonah, chairs {X-1}
jotheonah (4): Swowl, Galzria, WestCoastDidds, MiX
chairs (2): SpaceAnemone, Isis
Isis (1): EFHW
- WCD votes Chairs (Joth)
- Chairs votes Joth (MiX)
- Robz votes Chairs (MiX)
Isis (1): EFHW
jotheonah (4): Swowl, Galzria, MiX, chairs
MiX (4): Dylan32, LaLight, , scolapasta, jotheonah,
chairs (4): SpaceAnemone, Isis, WCD, Robz888
- Space votes Joth (Chairs)
- WCD moves back to Joth (Chairs)
- Scola hammers Joth (MiX) *like 7 seconds left*
Vote Count 1.FINAL
Isis (1): EFHW
jotheonah (7): Swowl, Galzria, MiX, chairs, SpaceAnemone, WestCoastDidds, scolapasta
MiX (3): Dylan32, LaLight, jotheonah
chairs (2): Isis, Robz888
1. = OK, if both town then like almost for sure skum in Galz, Space, Pasta. Would also dictate the on wagon kill to try and give more reason for us not to devatite from looking at MiX/Chairs.
2. = Could be the case, but counter point of #1 here, WCD would be a weird pick. I would expect them to pick a kill that could potentially iso our field down to 3 players off wagon to try and sway us away from MiX/Chairs selection. Also there is the whole Chairs putting mix at L-1 bit countered by the MiX not wanting to hammer chairs. but still... not likely all in all to me.
3. = Obviously possible. But I just don't get why MiX would not hammer chairs in the past when MiX was the the one at risk themselves. Or they could of gone for Joth. But neither, they went for Isis, then Joth died down, then they went for Joth.
4. = Def Possible. They start out on Joth. Joth dies down. They move to MiX. And in the end end up on Joth again.
So I know that is gonna get some scrutinty on focusing so much on Chairs/MiX. But the fact of the matter is that Chairs/MiX/Isis/Joth were kind of the sole focus on the day - Gap on Isis technically I guess, they just got a lot of talk.
But the point is, I don't think given the scenarios listed that it is likely that they are both skum.
I think it is possible that they are both Town.
And if i have to pick one, which I think we should, I pick chairs over MiX.
Vote: Chairs