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Re: RMM39: Kubo and the Two Strings Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #375 on: December 19, 2016, 10:54:19 am »

Also Arch getting 'more confident' of Faust was kind of odd, and the 'slip' thing is... forced.
I'm not sure how it's "forced" when RR is the one who pointed it out. I invite you to reread Faust if you've forgotten how scummy he is like I had.

Well, I should reread everything before a final decision today.
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Re: RMM39: Kubo and the Two Strings Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #376 on: December 19, 2016, 11:10:58 am »

Vote Count 1.8:

faust (3): Archetype, LaLight, Eevee
Archetype (2): Axxle, WW
WW (2): RR, faust
Axxle (1): gkrieg13

Not Voting (0):

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Day One ends on December 19 at 3:10 p.m.

That's in ~4 hours.
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Re: RMM39: Kubo and the Two Strings Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #377 on: December 19, 2016, 11:13:34 am »

faust or Arch...
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Re: RMM39: Kubo and the Two Strings Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #378 on: December 19, 2016, 11:33:34 am »

This game is sparse.

LaLight is pretty much obvtown.

Scum has a tendency to exaggerate their reads, so point against Faust here.

faust, what's your flavor name?

A thing. I know nothing of this flavor but for all I know my flavor could be connected to m role and well we wouldn't want scum to know that now would we?

Faust's reply to Eevee.  In Faust's defense, it did not register to me that I did not have a flavor name.  In fact, I thought that I had one.  I had to go back and check that I did not.  I was going to post this earlier, but then I was worried about slipping some kind of information, but I don't think that's really an issue.

That being said, what follows feels a bit like Faust trying to cover up a mistake.  First a quick post that he didn't look at his PM when Eevee asked the question, and then the 'it will be fun to see who jumps on this' thing.  Though, if you're town here and you made this 'honest' mistake, you're probably going to feel a strong need to clear things up here as well.

I'll Vote: faust.

This would be expected from scum!Arch as scum!Faust's partner.  Arch would definitely think that it's a real slip, defending is risky, and this is very early in the game, so a good time to bus.  Arch's continued push towards Faust clouds that theory, though.

Also I really liked this opening by me, but everyone ignored it :/

LaLight is speaking in tongues.  We're gonna need an old priest and a young priest.

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Re: RMM39: Kubo and the Two Strings Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #379 on: December 19, 2016, 11:34:54 am »

I honestly do t know what to think of this game yet.

I don't think Faust is scummy for not checking g his QT when deciding to not claim when he is drunk

... QT?
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Re: RMM39: Kubo and the Two Strings Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #380 on: December 19, 2016, 11:37:17 am »

This is Faust's first sober explanation:

So here's what's what:

Everyone who has ever been scum with me - in fact, everyone who has ever read a mafia QT with me in it - knows I always spend N0 analyzing the setup, preparing fakeclaims. In a small game such as this, that would be even more important. There is not a lot of setup information to go around, and you can bet I would have read everything carefully. Meaning that as scum I would be more likely to remember that town does not have flavor names.

The second thing is obviously Eevee had some sort of purpose with his question. Don't you think I'd double-check as scum? Now I know I was mildly drunk and that was why Eevee thought he could slip me up, but does that fit with the scum play that you know from me?

The third thing is ongoing game stuff.

And this is what he said today:

Noone has a case on me, do they?

For the record, I checked back my role PM, and the role name I have is strongly flavored, so it's no surprise that in my head I felt as though I had a flavor name.

Did you not check your role PM before now?  Why didn't you bring this up back then?  You didn't imply before this that you felt as though you had a flavor name.
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Re: RMM39: Kubo and the Two Strings Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #381 on: December 19, 2016, 11:40:40 am »

unvote

Fine so the towns are me, LaLight, faust, eevee.

vote: Archetype

Why these people? Esp. faust.

Well faust should really be your only question in that list.  Partially because I think that faust is valuable to the town even when he is scum.  He is a brutal busser, so I think it is better to leave him alive either way. 

The other reason is that he just seems townier with his last few comments.  This is the kind of defending of himself that he does as town.

Faust is a brutal busser?  I think it's mostly the opposite.
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Re: RMM39: Kubo and the Two Strings Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #382 on: December 19, 2016, 11:41:52 am »

How bad would it be for you to claim? If it's a role that doesn't get too much weaker, I think you could claim already. Hard to say for me what the downsides could be since i have no idea what the roles are like.
Well I would certainly prefer not to claim, but it won't be the end of the world.
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Re: RMM39: Kubo and the Two Strings Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #383 on: December 19, 2016, 11:42:19 am »

I don't really feel the RR is town thing any more.
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Re: RMM39: Kubo and the Two Strings Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #384 on: December 19, 2016, 11:45:53 am »

Did you not check your role PM before now?  Why didn't you bring this up back then?  You didn't imply before this that you felt as though you had a flavor name.
No, I had my role memorized. Now I scrolled through my inbox for another reason and read it. Then it occured to me that my role name is basically a flavor name, and that maybe that was why I did not think that there are no flavor names.
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Re: RMM39: Kubo and the Two Strings Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #385 on: December 19, 2016, 11:46:35 am »

Liking WW's effort here, and I agree with gkrieg. Vote: Axxle
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Re: RMM39: Kubo and the Two Strings Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #386 on: December 19, 2016, 11:46:50 am »

Will be unable to post for about an hour.
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Re: RMM39: Kubo and the Two Strings Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #387 on: December 19, 2016, 11:46:56 am »

unvote

Fine so the towns are me, LaLight, faust, eevee.

vote: Archetype

Why these people? Esp. faust.

Well faust should really be your only question in that list.  Partially because I think that faust is valuable to the town even when he is scum.  He is a brutal busser, so I think it is better to leave him alive either way. 

The other reason is that he just seems townier with his last few comments.  This is the kind of defending of himself that he does as town.

Faust is a brutal busser?  I think it's mostly the opposite.

I've been brutally bussed by faust, both when he was a traitor, and when he was my partner.
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Re: RMM39: Kubo and the Two Strings Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #388 on: December 19, 2016, 11:53:23 am »

I wouldn't think scum!Faust would do a lot of bussing in this setup.  I could be wrong though.
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Re: RMM39: Kubo and the Two Strings Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #389 on: December 19, 2016, 11:54:08 am »

Vote: Axxle
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Re: RMM39: Kubo and the Two Strings Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #390 on: December 19, 2016, 11:55:19 am »

Vote Count 1.9:

faust (3): Archetype, LaLight, Eevee
Archetype (1): Axxle
WW (1): RR
Axxle (3): gkrieg13, faust, WW

Not Voting (0):

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Day One ends on December 19 at 3:10 p.m.

That's in ~3 hours.
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Re: RMM39: Kubo and the Two Strings Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #391 on: December 19, 2016, 12:00:29 pm »

I honestly do t know what to think of this game yet.

I don't think Faust is scummy for not checking g his QT when deciding to not claim when he is drunk

... QT?
If gkreig wasn't confirmed Town by LaLight, I'd say this is fairly scummy.

I have work in an hour and will become unavailable then.
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Re: RMM39: Kubo and the Two Strings Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #392 on: December 19, 2016, 12:07:56 pm »

I honestly do t know what to think of this game yet.

I don't think Faust is scummy for not checking g his QT when deciding to not claim when he is drunk

... QT?
If gkreig wasn't confirmed Town by LaLight, I'd say this is fairly scummy.

I have work in an hour and will become unavailable then.

I was phone posting (as is evidenced by the typos), and was responding in other places as well.  Either way, roles are often not stated in the scum QT anyway, so in this game, even if I were scum I would have possibly had to check my PM for my rolename anyway.
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Re: RMM39: Kubo and the Two Strings Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #393 on: December 19, 2016, 12:10:50 pm »

I'm not sure what you're saying in the last sentence.
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Re: RMM39: Kubo and the Two Strings Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #394 on: December 19, 2016, 12:24:33 pm »

I'm not sure what you're saying in the last sentence.

Eh it's not really important.
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Re: RMM39: Kubo and the Two Strings Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #395 on: December 19, 2016, 12:47:01 pm »

I've been brutally bussed by faust, both when he was a traitor, and when he was my partner.
It just that you are so bussable!
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Re: RMM39: Kubo and the Two Strings Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #396 on: December 19, 2016, 12:49:16 pm »

Things are not looking that great considering Axxle is still off my wagon, so I'm virtually at L-1. Gotta convince someone to ot vote for me for another lynch to go through.

I am a Jailkeeper.

My actual role is called differently, but the functionality is pretty similar.
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Re: RMM39: Kubo and the Two Strings Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #397 on: December 19, 2016, 12:57:49 pm »

Counterclaims?

I'm at my floorball teams sauna night (how finnish of me), i'm here  to move my vote but not much else.
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Re: RMM39: Kubo and the Two Strings Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #398 on: December 19, 2016, 12:59:55 pm »

Counterclaims?

I'm at my floorball teams sauna night (how finnish of me), i'm here  to move my vote but not much else.

The only thing i can think of here is that he is scum Jailkeeper.

I'm here apparently till the deadline.
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Re: RMM39: Kubo and the Two Strings Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #399 on: December 19, 2016, 01:00:28 pm »

Things are not looking that great considering Axxle is still off my wagon, so I'm virtually at L-1. Gotta convince someone to ot vote for me for another lynch to go through.

I am a Jailkeeper.

My actual role is called differently, but the functionality is pretty similar.

Why aren't you telling the actual role?
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