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[faust]

IO have a town read on Faust. He's posting way too much to be scum IMO.

You should read some of my scum games.

[QuickSync]

IO have a town read on Faust. He's posting way too much to be scum IMO.

You should read some of my scum games.

Why is that?

[faust]

IO have a town read on Faust. He's posting way too much to be scum IMO.

You should read some of my scum games.

Why is that?

I feel like I'm posting a lot as scum. I don't think posting a lot is an alignment tell for me.

[Axxle]

Don't like being townread, mime?

In all seriousness, I don't see why you're bothering to question a townread on yourself from town.

[faust]

Don't like being townread, mime?

In all seriousness, I don't see why you're bothering to question a townread on yourself from town.

I don't like lazy reads.

[Witherweaver]

Don't like being townread, mime?

In all seriousness, I don't see why you're bothering to question a townread on yourself from town.

I don't like lazy reads.

You didn't say anything about my town read on you.

[Witherweaver]

unvote because now I'm thinking Seprix might be mime. I'll reread ghqcob.

If he was, he missed the opportunity to lynch himself Day 1. 

[Witherweaver]

Do you have a lynch Seprix read?  Because you should.

If I get lynched, you'll be found a liar, and there's no way you'll get away with it. You know this! You're totally a goon.

That's evidence he isn't a goon.

I keep saying Goon, and I mean Mime.

So you think I'm a mime and you're trying to lynch me?  I think you're having trouble keeping your story straight.

[Witherweaver]

Don't like being townread, mime?

In all seriousness, I don't see why you're bothering to question a townread on yourself from town.

Not sure if you're just fluffing here, but do you think Faust's post would really dissipate town reads?

[silverspawn]

okay, I shall catch up

[silverspawn]

this game is confusing.

I'm not the watcher or na..poleon thing, so I can't counter claim.

[silverspawn]

so, Seprix and QS are confirmed town. There is no counter claim. I don't really understand the confusion about this.

If anything, watcher could maaaybe think he's too valuable to counter claim QS. But Neapolitan isn't that good, so he really shouldn't hold back. If there is a Neapolitan out there, counter claim asap.

So WW isn't a VT. That leaves

40% mime
20% vig
20% backup vig
20% goon

He claimed to be VT. Thing is, whether that makes him more or less likely to be lynched is WIFOM, which means that it makes sense for all 4 of those categories (mime want to get lynched, the rest doesn't).

Actually, since we know Seprix is telling the truth, it's kind of null. WW has been lying... for whatever reason.

[silverspawn]

Actually, I'm not so sure about Watcher being stronger than Neapolitan anymore, now that I think about it.

[silverspawn]

okay, let me do some clean analysis. I'll assume that our two claims are conf!town for now.

These are 9 players left alive, consisting of

2 Vanilla Townies
1 Vigilante
1 Backup Vigilante
2 Mimes
1 Goon
QS the Watcher
Seprix the Neapolitan

Now let's analyze a massclaim. First, let's see how many lynches we have left. Right now it is

6/1/2

So, in order to have the majority, we need 4 town players left alive. That means we can lynch, no-kill, lynch, shoot (worst case). That makes 2 safe kills, 1 blockable kill.

Now let's assume everyone claims. Let's also not include our two confirmed towns to simplify things. Then we have

2 Vanilla Townies claiming VT
1 Vigilante claiming Vigilante
1 Backup Vigilante claiming Backup Vigilante
2 Mimes claiming ?
1 Goon claiming ?

That will leave us with an overlap of 3 spaced out over 3 categories. How useful that is depends on how they distribute their claims. I should probably stop here...

It does seem good to me though. Note also that, if the vig shot a mime, we have additional information

I think I'm in favor of a massclaim.

[silverspawn]

Basically, since we have a backup-vig, there is no downside to a massclaim. The vig can shoot Night 4 anyway.

I really think we should massclaim.

Seprix or QS should determine an order.

[Ghacob]

okay, let me do some clean analysis. I'll assume that our two claims are conf!town for now.

These are 9 players left alive, consisting of

2 Vanilla Townies
1 Vigilante
1 Backup Vigilante
2 Mimes
1 Goon
QS the Watcher
Seprix the Neapolitan

Now let's analyze a massclaim. First, let's see how many lynches we have left. Right now it is

6/1/2

So, in order to have the majority, we need 4 town players left alive. That means we can lynch, no-kill, lynch, shoot (worst case). That makes 2 safe kills, 1 blockable kill.

Now let's assume everyone claims. Let's also not include our two confirmed towns to simplify things. Then we have

2 Vanilla Townies claiming VT
1 Vigilante claiming Vigilante
1 Backup Vigilante claiming Backup Vigilante
2 Mimes claiming ?
1 Goon claiming ?

That will leave us with an overlap of 3 spaced out over 3 categories. How useful that is depends on how they distribute their claims. I should probably stop here...

It does seem good to me though. Note also that, if the vig shot a mime, we have additional information

I think I'm in favor of a massclaim.

ahh things to say real life stuff happening
jailkeeping mimes make this a bad idea  gtgbye

[silverspawn]

jailkeeping mimes make this a bad idea  gtgbye

I don't think so... though we could maybe claim 'vig or backup vig' instead of 'vig' and 'backup vig' to change that.

[Ghacob]

jailkeeping mimes make this a bad idea  gtgbye

I don't think so... though we could maybe claim 'vig or backup vig' instead of 'vig' and 'backup vig' to change that.

That's actually what I was going to suggest

[QuickSync]

okay, let me do some clean analysis. I'll assume that our two claims are conf!town for now.

These are 9 players left alive, consisting of

2 Vanilla Townies
1 Vigilante
1 Backup Vigilante
2 Mimes
1 Goon
QS the Watcher
Seprix the Neapolitan

Now let's analyze a massclaim. First, let's see how many lynches we have left. Right now it is

6/1/2

So, in order to have the majority, we need 4 town players left alive. That means we can lynch, no-kill, lynch, shoot (worst case). That makes 2 safe kills, 1 blockable kill.

Now let's assume everyone claims. Let's also not include our two confirmed towns to simplify things. Then we have

2 Vanilla Townies claiming VT
1 Vigilante claiming Vigilante
1 Backup Vigilante claiming Backup Vigilante
2 Mimes claiming ?
1 Goon claiming ?

That will leave us with an overlap of 3 spaced out over 3 categories. How useful that is depends on how they distribute their claims. I should probably stop here...

It does seem good to me though. Note also that, if the vig shot a mime, we have additional information

I think I'm in favor of a massclaim.

Basically, since we have a backup-vig, there is no downside to a massclaim. The vig can shoot Night 4 anyway.

I really think we should massclaim.

Seprix or QS should determine an order.

Thank God someone sees it finally. Woot!

OK Seprix I have the strongest Townread on you next to Seprix.

You're going first.

[QuickSync]

And Axxel is claiming after you.

[XerxesPraelor]

Wait, why have the townie people claim first?

[QuickSync]

Wait, why have the townie people claim first?

For a couple of reasons:

1. It will scare the crap out of scum.

2. Town reads are most to be trusted.

3. It makes it very difficult for scum to CC.

[Axxle]

How is it harder for scum to CC?

[Axxle]

OK Seprix I have the strongest Townread on you next to Seprix.

Lol

[Witherweaver]

Also, why does scum need to crowd control.

Yes I played MMOs