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[faust]

Okay, can anyone, slowly and thoroughly, explain to me why exactly it is good to test Grey if you think he's town? Because I don't get it at all.

I don't have any strong belief that Grey is town. Creating an IC is good.

Why is creating an IC now good, when we can create this IC any time we want to?

[Seprix]

Wow, is scum team really Library/Lio/Ichi?

Where does that come from?

No, you're right. It can't be Ichi.

[Witherweaver]

Okay, can anyone, slowly and thoroughly, explain to me why exactly it is good to test Grey if you think he's town? Because I don't get it at all.

I don't have any strong belief that Grey is town. Creating an IC is good.

Why is creating an IC now good, when we can create this IC any time we want to?

I don't follow.

[Witherweaver]

Oh, he's Loved for the rest of the game if he's town, not just today?

Well, it would still be better now because we'd have more information now, right?  Why is it better to do it later?

[faust]

Oh, he's Loved for the rest of the game if he's town, not just today?

Well, it would still be better now because we'd have more information now, right?  Why is it better to do it later?

The information isn't particularly relevant tough if he's town. It's better to do it later because if he's town, scum might kill him, which also confirms that he's town and we never have to do a risky testing thing.

[Witherweaver]

Oh, he's Loved for the rest of the game if he's town, not just today?

Well, it would still be better now because we'd have more information now, right?  Why is it better to do it later?

The information isn't particularly relevant tough if he's town. It's better to do it later because if he's town, scum might kill him, which also confirms that he's town and we never have to do a risky testing thing.

Well it is relevant, because if he's town it reduces the lynch pool and makes PoE stronger.  Plus, if he's scum, we've lynched scum.  I can understand not seeing it too useful if you have a strong town read on him, but for me he's a pretty big unknown.

[Witherweaver]

Lio, I had forgotten what our QT thing did, but just went back and read it.  Is there an advantage to not claiming it?

[faust]

Err... guys. The OP says days last 9 days. That would mean we have a little under 2 days left. What do we do? Please start posting reads already instead of going on and on about Grey. Everyone but me is really scummy.

[Ichimaru Gin]

Okay, can anyone, slowly and thoroughly, explain to me why exactly it is good to test Grey if you think he's town? Because I don't get it at all.

I don't have any strong belief that Grey is town. Creating an IC is good.

Why is creating an IC now good, when we can create this IC any time we want to?

Uh no. How safe is it to put Grey (your biggest townread) to L-1 tomorrow if there's only 3 town and 2 scum? Not safe at all. Unless we know who both of the scum are and make them vote first, confirming Grey tomorrow is super dangerous.

[Ichimaru Gin]

Yeah...I don't know. I don't terribly agree with faust, but I do trust him I think. I'm not sure how I feel about lio now.

I think if Grey is scum Faust looks bad here; I think this is exactly the kind of argument he'd make as Grey's partner.  Of course,  he'd likely do it as town as well.

Yeah, that's about my thought process as well. I'm beginning to feel a little more wary of how faust is trying to keep us from testing Grey. There's no way it's safe to do it tomorrow unless we lynch scum today. It's still safer and more helpful to do it now.

[Ichimaru Gin]

Could we please have a vote count.

I don't think there's been a single one all day.

[faust]

Rereading WW, because he's next on my list.

His first serious vote goes to LA. Here's a post that is somewhat weird, and I don't think comes from LA's partner:

I like it

Vote: Awaclus

This could also say Vote: LibraryAdventurer, but it doesn't.

Then lots of one-liners. There's a small wagon on him, and he OMGUSes Seprix a bit. Calls LA scummy, but doesn't want to lynch him because he's new. Then suddenly, he wants to lynch LA but the day is too short. Votes pit instead, and thinks Awaclus is townie after his claim. I don't love his treatment of Awaclus, but oh well.

On D2, he still finds LA scummy, but votes silver. Then goes on voting LA. Then wastes a strong town power by calling CotR. Like, I still think this is quiet bad. He switches his vote to pit when that wagon grows. Tries to direct the Page kill to pit. Switches back to LA.

Yeah, ultimately I don't know. His treatment of LA seems a bit too flip-floppy to be bussing, but then there are some things that raise my alarm bells. I think I like Hydrad better for today.

PPE: 3

[faust]

Okay, can anyone, slowly and thoroughly, explain to me why exactly it is good to test Grey if you think he's town? Because I don't get it at all.

I don't have any strong belief that Grey is town. Creating an IC is good.

Why is creating an IC now good, when we can create this IC any time we want to?

Uh no. How safe is it to put Grey (your biggest townread) to L-1 tomorrow if there's only 3 town and 2 scum? Not safe at all. Unless we know who both of the scum are and make them vote first, confirming Grey tomorrow is super dangerous.

Okay, well, I'm trying to lynch scum here obviously, and I believe the chances that we hit scum are pretty good if people would actually start putting in work.

I think I can just say it: I believe Grey is the Page. If so, we absolutely don't want him lynched today so that he can use his pseudocop tonight.

[Ichimaru Gin]

Hmm, I'm not sure about this. At any rate, even if Grey is the page, he could still be scum. Also, it's not like he can do us any good if he's not around.

[faust]

Hmm, I'm not sure about this. At any rate, even if Grey is the page, he could still be scum. Also, it's not like he can do us any good if he's not around.

But if I remember correctly, even if he's scum, he has to create that neighborhood, right?

...okay, I checked. The description does not actually have a "must", but all the other options do, which makes me suppose this also holds true for this one. Which means if Grey isn't around, the player in question would be picked randomly.

<b>Xerxes, is the N3 option for Page obligatory?</b>
<b>Also, what happens if Grey doesn't respond to the prod? Do we get anothr replacement?</b>

[faust]

*sigh* You know, typing <> is just so much easier than [] on a German keyboard.

Xerxes, is the N3 option for Page obligatory?
Also, what happens if Grey doesn't respond to the prod? Do we get anothr replacement?

[Witherweaver]

I'm going to try to reread this weekend.  Town read on Faust is getting stronger.

[Hydrad]

I'm liking faust here also. At the moment though I still think its worth it to try the greyICE thing even though faust is against it.

[faust]

I'm liking faust here also. At the moment though I still think its worth it to try the greyICE thing even though faust is against it.

Do you have a scum read on Grey?

[Hydrad]

I'm liking faust here also. At the moment though I still think its worth it to try the greyICE thing even though faust is against it.

Do you have a scum read on Grey?

yup

[Hydrad]

The one thing that is making me question ICE is that he was going for SS sooo hard. Why NK him? maybe he thought town was not going to lynch SS so decided to kill him? Maybe he thought he was a PR? Confusion's sake? Or town having a bad read.

[Hydrad]

The one thing that is making me question ICE is that he was going for SS sooo hard. Why NK him? maybe he thought town was not going to lynch SS so decided to kill him? Maybe he thought he was a PR? Confusion's sake? Or town having a bad read.

Ah if it wasn't clear I'm meaning questioning my scum read on him.

[Ichimaru Gin]

So. Are we ever going to get an official vote count?

[liopoil]

Lio, I had forgotten what our QT thing did, but just went back and read it.  Is there an advantage to not claiming it?

Yes, claiming it would deter scum from making a mistake.

[liopoil]

If it only takes 4 kills to lynch Ice, and Lio is prodding WW to vote...

Oh my god.

unvote

This looks terrible for Lio, right?

I... what? I'm so confused, what the heck are you even trying to say. Do you have any clue what is going on?