UP TO DATE AS OF #976
@Robz - The reasons for my vote for Axxle are not so much a "case" but small pieces of things that, in total, make me believe he's more likely to be mafia than anyone else right now.
First small thing - The points in Galz's post at #760 (p31). The dichotomy between words and actions struck a chord. (In fact, I was surprised it didn't generate much notice, even with my asking (at #807) everyone to comment).
2nd small thing - CF's final point #875 (p36) tipped me enough to actually move my vote. (Interesting, I see that his quote of my post was another chance for everyone to read of my request at #807.) So at 883 I voted Axxle, in what appears to be the last post before the site went down.
Aside: I also just noticed, in reviewing, that Axxle posted at #882 while I was composing what would become 883. I guess I hadn't read it clearly, or missed it. In the post, Axxle says "I have 3 votes on me, Galz, J and now CF, correcting an assertion of CF's that there were 2 votes on him." I think I've proven that I'm all in favor of correcting the record, but to this didn't read that way - this had the tone of "ok, partner(s), pay attention here, we don't want this getting out of hand". Axxle then mentions needing to review DSell and J material.
Five-ish hours later the site comes up, and in the next post (at #884) things get interesting: CF says something to Axxle that struck me as odd: "Ooops, forgot about J's vote". I again attribute tone, and what I get is a combination of "Uh-oh, I didn't mean to take it to 3, I thought I would only be making it 2 votes" and "there there youngster, not to worry, we've got this under control, let me give you something to take your mind off your predicament". His next statement is "It's getting pretty hot in here - Axxle, I would like to see your thoughts on the J / DSell situation." I read the first part as "I'll make a joke, so you should be able to relax a little" and the second part as "yes, you've foreshadowed your deflection, I'll put the same two names in front of everyone as you did" (though this might be a legit request for substance, as CF's previous vote had indeed been on DSell). If I take it a step further, CF's next part smells to me also, when he asks of Axxle "Also - in your mind - what is the value of the pressure that is placed on people as votes pile up. What are you looking for that you think would be different if they felt like the votes would not go through?". It smells like "don't crack, they are only gathering information, think about what they are looking for as the pressure builds, and don't do that" rather than an actual request for substance.
Axxle's next post (#889) begins with almost studied indifference "I feel like DSell hasn't really said a whole lot of anything.", and more stuff, an "I like this post" with a quote, and then another deflection: the FOS at Theo. After all, we don't want to miss yet another possible person to consider. Overall I just get a mafia vibe, I'm going with my gut as much as anything here. There's more that has come since - Pops post at #958 I find compelling now, and I don't think THAT is confirmation bias. Axxle himself in #912 seems halfhearted, bringing up Jo again, and Theo, so those two stay on the radar, the nonchalance again with "I guess its time for more defense"
As for Jo - You have now made, in #913, a pretty good case against him, and I've not dismissed him (hell I haven't dismissed you yet), but he's not quite as smelly to me as Axxle is right now. And now CF is in a different light for me, so I need to go back and look at some things. The consensus appears to be that Day 1 is too early to start thinking about pairs, but I'm wondering...
Sorry this took so long to write, there were numerous RL interruptions.
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