[rant]
Rant over.
I like this rant. I totally agree with it, and I totally think it is a perfect thing for scum!faust to do
Man, you just let Faust talk you down. Read your sig!
Eh...
I try not to kick people when they are down? Faust sounds frustrated with all the crap he's been getting lately, and to be fair I'm responsible for a fair portion of that.
It's not like I'm giving him town points for it. But I'd like to see a lot of people get a bit more involved in this game, not just Faust. There is plenty to go off of right now.
Like you, for instance! What exactly has WW contributed again?
This sounds like town to me.
Man, I'm suprised no one has gone after me for lurking.
You aren't lurking. You have never lurked.
Fair. I think the standard thing for scum is to try to float by, looking useful without causing too much of a stir. There are exceptions, (Faust in the RMM game that just finished), but especially for people as myself who have played maybe 15 forum games total, we tend to not get TOO crazy as scum, especially early when not pressure. Of course, having just said all that, it makes everything I do as potential scum WIFOM, but hey. That's the game.
I don't agree with lynching me because you don't know how I play as scum. You want to lynch someone that either has a good potential of being scum (which really based on my playstyle I wouldn't lynch myself yet if I were another person in this game), or someone who will give boatloads of info on a flip. Just lynching people cause you don't know how they play isn't very productive.
Now, if the game goes later and you still have no idea if I'm scum or not, then you seriously start asking yourself: could this guy be scum? But again you will probably end up realizing I'm not. Course, I can't make up your mind for you; I'm just being honest about what you will probably end up thinking.
Good stuff. As Peyton Manning once said: "I like it."
As I say right now, "I don't like it." This gives me all sorts of bad feelings about Ampharos being scum. Like, seriously? "Lynching people because you don't know their playstyle isn't very productive." This is not about lynching you. The conversation has never been about you (up to that point. I recognize after there is some discussion. I will get to that later tonight)
But really? No one is attacking you, and the first thing you do is come out with a defense of yourself. No one is even voting for you! Yet you fiercely defend yourself like your life is on the line and we are about to do this terrible mislynch. THAT is scummy.
Eh?
SS is voting me, hoping to pressure me into saying something scummy. Don't worry about it, because he changes votes about as often as... something cliche. I'm looking to get this over with quickly, so we can get back to scum hunting. I'll be back when we're ready for that.
I am looking to bring this back up, so we can get back to scum hunting the real scum. Also, that vote was not a pressure vote. It was a "I think you are scum vote." There is a difference. A while back I classified different reasons for voting. I am pretty sure this was just a bland old "I think you are scum" vote.
His scum tells are
- Look, I am calmly thinking about the possibility of scum!me, but it doesn't matter, since it's all hypothetical
- LOOK, I TOTALLY DO NOT FEEL PRESSURED BY YOUR VOTE!
These are the most important ones.
There's also
- Look, I consider your scum read on me to be valid
- Look, I am totally calm about the option of lynching me and am judging it objectively
- Obligatory 'you will realize I'm town' near the end
All of those (except maybe the last one if you take it out of context) are more likely to be from fairly new scum than fairly new town
I'M NOT CALM ABOUT THIS POSSIBILITY!!!! IT IS FREAKING ME OUT!
I AM SO TOTALLY PRESSURED BY YOUR VOTE, SO MUCH THAT IT MAKES ME TYPE IN CAPS AND MISS PUNCUTATION!!!111oneoneone
But wait! For only $29.99 more, you get:
Your scum read of me is totally not valid in any way!
I am peeing my pants cause I'm so scared about getting lynched!
You'll never get the fact that I'm town, so why try?
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In all seriousness, that last one is kinda true. I see what you're doing, but you're just wasting my time (I would say our time but technically you don't know my role, so you get a pass this time.). Go at least look at Teproc. Also, consider the fact that I'm not that new (around 15 forum games and several hundred irc) and have developed my own playstyle.
(There are 15 scum tells in the above sentences; if you don't get them all, you're scum!!!!1111 one)
This was a fun post. But notice! Ampharos basically goes back to the argument that he made BEFORE silverspawn voted him. The whole, "you don't know me so you can't vote for me" argument. Which is a fine argument, sure. However, I think my point stands about defending yourself before anyone has even thought about "attacking" you is scummy. It is all about self-preservation, not looking for scum.
My big problem with Ampharos claiming to be a veteran here is that he's not really doing anything to help town very much...
I mean, 'take a look at Teproc' does me little good when I already have taken a look at Teproc and what I see is pretty null. What am I supposed to be looking for? 'Teh Feelz'?
I really do like this iguana guy. Read what I just said. Ampharos isn't doing anything to help scum with his previous arguments.
iguana trying to get people in gear. thats good. I like iguana here. you get 5 town points. Now how strong are these town points? I have no idea as I haven't created the scale yet but I assure you its good.
Hey everyone, your friendly neighborhood Hydrad is here!
Eh?
SS is voting me, hoping to pressure me into saying something scummy. Don't worry about it, because he changes votes about as often as... something cliche. I'm looking to get this over with quickly, so we can get back to scum hunting. I'll be back when we're ready for that.
Loving this. As in, I like this playstyle, though I'm not entirely sure which way it's going. I really should read games for all the people I don't know. I think I'm back to null on Amphares, this reminded me of me in Chococlate Factory, a reference... one whole person will know in this game. Long story short, I was newbie scum.
I was in chocolate factory too....But yeah. I like Ampharos' playstyle. It is fun and energetic and useful in stimulating conversation.
reads lists
more reads lists
I am a sucker for reads lists. I love when people make them.
I'd bet my non-existent hat you both are town.
That's interesting; in your previous reads list, iguana and silver only showed up as light town. What changed? Or are you just in a gambling mood?
The more Day 1 consistent headbutting between two people, the more likely they are to be stubborn townies refusing to give up their point. That behavior draws too much attention. It's important to note that this is very different than one person relentlessly going after another, and that can easily be a sign of scum on either side of that (i.e. your moves on GKrieg last game).
I really like this point
Could someone summarize the silverspawn case for me?
There is none. I was really just wondering that myself. Why are people voting for him. He seems townie to me.