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Re: RMM55: Falling Skies Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #275 on: April 01, 2020, 09:15:51 pm »

join me on MiX, let's make this a wagon.
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vote: MiX

Alright, let’s make it a party.

Vote: MiX
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: RMM55: Falling Skies Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #276 on: April 01, 2020, 09:16:29 pm »

join me on MiX, let's make this a wagon.
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vote: MiX

Alright, let’s make it a party.

Vote: MiX

Vote: Galzria
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Re: RMM55: Falling Skies Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #277 on: April 01, 2020, 09:20:08 pm »

join me on MiX, let's make this a wagon.
Sold

vote: MiX

Alright, let’s make it a party.

Vote: MiX

Vote: Galzria

Shock and surprise!

I’m much more interested in other’s opinions than your reaction here, MiX. Carry on.
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: RMM55: Falling Skies Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #278 on: April 01, 2020, 09:20:57 pm »

Oh okay sorry for reacting then. Continue with your play.

Vote: cayvie
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Re: RMM55: Falling Skies Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #279 on: April 01, 2020, 09:22:15 pm »

It’s very grumpy old man.
More channeling shraeye

I see you, says one gray hair to another
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Re: RMM55: Falling Skies Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #280 on: April 01, 2020, 09:23:04 pm »

Galz, can you explain why MiX?
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Re: RMM55: Falling Skies Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #281 on: April 01, 2020, 09:25:06 pm »

Galz, can you explain why MiX?

Not immediately - ask me again in 24 hours or so.
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: RMM55: Falling Skies Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #282 on: April 01, 2020, 09:33:17 pm »

Galz, can you explain why MiX?

Not immediately - ask me again in 24 hours or so.

Cool...we got a almost a week : /
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Re: RMM55: Falling Skies Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #283 on: April 01, 2020, 09:36:26 pm »

I mean Eddie is an easy wagon. MiX is an easy wagon, nail-mi is an easy wagon, apparently I am the easy wagon so what do we do now?

vote: Eddie

Vote cayvie, I promise that, although it will be one of the hardest wagons, we will pull through and lynch the scum on the other side of this dark tunnel! Who's with me?

How are you so confident?

I know MiX is usually pretty brash as town, but this feels like MiX is overplaying his brashness, faking it 'cause he's scum.
Seconded.  It sounds like MiX pretending to be shraeye.

Didds, whatcha think about mail-mi’s take?
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: RMM55: Falling Skies Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #284 on: April 01, 2020, 09:55:29 pm »

I mean Eddie is an easy wagon. MiX is an easy wagon, nail-mi is an easy wagon, apparently I am the easy wagon so what do we do now?

vote: Eddie

Vote cayvie, I promise that, although it will be one of the hardest wagons, we will pull through and lynch the scum on the other side of this dark tunnel! Who's with me?

How are you so confident?

I know MiX is usually pretty brash as town, but this feels like MiX is overplaying his brashness, faking it 'cause he's scum.
Seconded.  It sounds like MiX pretending to be shraeye.

Didds, whatcha think about mail-mi’s take?

I think MiX, left to his own devices talks a big game. He has been working on dialing it back, and making more jokes, but his default (to me) is big talk, sweeping edicts, and generally the confidence of the young. He and I have squared off about this in the past, but I feel like I understand him better as a result. (One time he ordered me around, another time he kept saying he was an IC, and more recently he INCINERATED me with a venge kill) I think this is a confident and funny take on cayvie, classic mix but with a bit of levity. I thought it was towny enough to vote with him. But this is all feeling, very little “evidence”, so I’m open to being wrong. 
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Re: RMM55: Falling Skies Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #285 on: April 01, 2020, 09:56:49 pm »

I’m not sure what “overplayed brashness” looks like with Mix.
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Re: RMM55: Falling Skies Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #286 on: April 01, 2020, 10:40:15 pm »

Thoughts on faust?
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Re: RMM55: Falling Skies Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #287 on: April 02, 2020, 01:04:34 am »

I mean Eddie is an easy wagon. MiX is an easy wagon, nail-mi is an easy wagon, apparently I am the easy wagon so what do we do now?

vote: Eddie

Vote cayvie, I promise that, although it will be one of the hardest wagons, we will pull through and lynch the scum on the other side of this dark tunnel! Who's with me?

How are you so confident?

I know MiX is usually pretty brash as town, but this feels like MiX is overplaying his brashness, faking it 'cause he's scum.

MiX, I would like an answer to the above question.

Read my cases? I don't understand the question.

So far the case seems to be "she's not as ultra-effective town as normal" which as Faust says is an unfair standard to hold her to. So not much of a case, unless you can point me to some other things.
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Re: RMM55: Falling Skies Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #288 on: April 02, 2020, 01:04:50 am »

Thoughts on faust?

What are your thoughts on Faust?
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Re: RMM55: Falling Skies Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #289 on: April 02, 2020, 02:00:43 am »

I mean Eddie is an easy wagon. MiX is an easy wagon, nail-mi is an easy wagon, apparently I am the easy wagon so what do we do now?

vote: Eddie

Vote cayvie, I promise that, although it will be one of the hardest wagons, we will pull through and lynch the scum on the other side of this dark tunnel! Who's with me?

How are you so confident?

I know MiX is usually pretty brash as town, but this feels like MiX is overplaying his brashness, faking it 'cause he's scum.

MiX, I would like an answer to the above question.

Read my cases? I don't understand the question.

So far the case seems to be "she's not as ultra-effective town as normal" which as Faust says is an unfair standard to hold her to. So not much of a case, unless you can point me to some other things.

That’s not at all the case. Nobody expects her (or anybody) to be “ultra-effective town”. She’s as likely as the next person to be wrong or right with her reads. What I do think of Cayvie is that she’s ridiculously sharp, and rarely a thing is going to slip past her notice. To that point, I think scum!cayvie is just slightly more likely to overlook the exact wording of the Town wincon - as it’s extremely close to normal and wouldn’t effect her directly. Town!Cayvie, in my opinion, would be more in tune with something that impacted her.

Cayvie claiming here is just completely out of character for her - but I think is NAI (maybe?) as I’m not sure she would be so bold as scum to go completely against her established Town meta views. So I’m reserving exclusive judgement on this specific data point, even if it combines with the above to put her squarely in my scummy category.
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: RMM55: Falling Skies Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #290 on: April 02, 2020, 02:23:52 am »

Thoughts on faust?

What are your thoughts on Faust?

Or his thoughts on anything...
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Re: RMM55: Falling Skies Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #291 on: April 02, 2020, 02:40:35 am »

I mean Eddie is an easy wagon. MiX is an easy wagon, nail-mi is an easy wagon, apparently I am the easy wagon so what do we do now?

vote: Eddie

Vote cayvie, I promise that, although it will be one of the hardest wagons, we will pull through and lynch the scum on the other side of this dark tunnel! Who's with me?

How are you so confident?

I know MiX is usually pretty brash as town, but this feels like MiX is overplaying his brashness, faking it 'cause he's scum.

MiX, I would like an answer to the above question.

Read my cases? I don't understand the question.

So far the case seems to be "she's not as ultra-effective town as normal" which as Faust says is an unfair standard to hold her to. So not much of a case, unless you can point me to some other things.

That’s not at all the case. Nobody expects her (or anybody) to be “ultra-effective town”. She’s as likely as the next person to be wrong or right with her reads. What I do think of Cayvie is that she’s ridiculously sharp, and rarely a thing is going to slip past her notice. To that point, I think scum!cayvie is just slightly more likely to overlook the exact wording of the Town wincon - as it’s extremely close to normal and wouldn’t effect her directly. Town!Cayvie, in my opinion, would be more in tune with something that impacted her.

Cayvie claiming here is just completely out of character for her - but I think is NAI (maybe?) as I’m not sure she would be so bold as scum to go completely against her established Town meta views. So I’m reserving exclusive judgement on this specific data point, even if it combines with the above to put her squarely in my scummy category.

the thing that had you on cayvie was that she overlooked the town win con?
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Re: RMM55: Falling Skies Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #292 on: April 02, 2020, 02:47:46 am »

I mean Eddie is an easy wagon. MiX is an easy wagon, nail-mi is an easy wagon, apparently I am the easy wagon so what do we do now?

vote: Eddie

Vote cayvie, I promise that, although it will be one of the hardest wagons, we will pull through and lynch the scum on the other side of this dark tunnel! Who's with me?

How are you so confident?

I know MiX is usually pretty brash as town, but this feels like MiX is overplaying his brashness, faking it 'cause he's scum.

MiX, I would like an answer to the above question.

Read my cases? I don't understand the question.

So far the case seems to be "she's not as ultra-effective town as normal" which as Faust says is an unfair standard to hold her to. So not much of a case, unless you can point me to some other things.

That’s not at all the case. Nobody expects her (or anybody) to be “ultra-effective town”. She’s as likely as the next person to be wrong or right with her reads. What I do think of Cayvie is that she’s ridiculously sharp, and rarely a thing is going to slip past her notice. To that point, I think scum!cayvie is just slightly more likely to overlook the exact wording of the Town wincon - as it’s extremely close to normal and wouldn’t effect her directly. Town!Cayvie, in my opinion, would be more in tune with something that impacted her.

Cayvie claiming here is just completely out of character for her - but I think is NAI (maybe?) as I’m not sure she would be so bold as scum to go completely against her established Town meta views. So I’m reserving exclusive judgement on this specific data point, even if it combines with the above to put her squarely in my scummy category.

the thing that had you on cayvie was that she overlooked the town win con?

like I know that is what you typed up when you entered the game - but that's really the all of it?
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Re: RMM55: Falling Skies Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #293 on: April 02, 2020, 02:54:52 am »

join me on MiX, let's make this a wagon.
Sold

vote: MiX

Alright, let’s make it a party.

Vote: MiX

Vote: Galzria

Shock and surprise!

I’m much more interested in other’s opinions than your reaction here, MiX. Carry on.

opinions to what?
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Re: RMM55: Falling Skies Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #294 on: April 02, 2020, 02:55:34 am »

Thoughts on faust?

What are your thoughts on Faust?

Or his thoughts on anything...

actually yeah homie bump.
Faust?
Mix Wagon?
Confirm you voted cayvie for the reasons mentioned?
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Re: RMM55: Falling Skies Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #295 on: April 02, 2020, 03:22:58 am »

POST#124 - Cayvie saying wtf to pubby's vote.
i don't follow what just happened here.

POST#128 - MiX responding to Skip regarding WCD soft claim.
My role is complicated and has lots of moving parts, but not super powerful. (Again, kind of like my life...)
I like this softclaim. Like, not in the sense that I think it's pro-town necessarily; like, in the sense that it strikes me as true and makes me lean town on wcd.
Townpoints for skip as that's exactly what I thought.

POST#156 - MiX states they understand and approve the Cayvie vote from Pubby. Then votes Eddie. Also, then low key points out pubby is taking meta skummy actions after backing their vote? It think?
vote: cayvie
vote: pubby

No, this is a good reason to vote cayvie. Scumpoints.

vote: cayvie
vote: pubby

This is pretty much where I’m at. Pubby and Faust both seem a bit off, although I can almost guarantee that there is at least one baddie who is defending a “townier” person.

MiX, for example.

Vote: Pubby

No, not really.

Vote: Uncle, who am I defending?

vote: Uncleeurope
I can get behind this

vote: Uncleeurope

Lol skip's town, have fun being NKd, that's an honor!

Aha so I actually just thought of a way that the softclaim could be scummy, but it's pretty remote. Could you explain why you think it deserves a vote?
Because other people went ahead and partial/softclaimed, and Didds seemed willing to join that crowd for the towncred.

Also, she hasn't revealed anything beyond her role not being super powerful, so all the claim does is help scum. There is nothing in there to hold her accountable when she does claim later on.
Alright.
I thought the "complicated and lots of moving parts" part was a semi-concrete thing that any later claim would have to fit with. Moving parts that make sense with the rest of the setup and are therefore believable are hard to fake, or at least that was my thought.

This except with much less doubt over it's truthfulness than either of you.

I already revealed my role but nobody took notice.

I saw it, there's just no reason to point it out.

Also last time you claimed like that you were scum doing some insane fakeclaim.

POST#159 - random mix post about another player.
Okay, where is Galzria??

Gone! Is he in this game? I think Galz kurking here is NAI, besides my vote's in a better place.

Why do you want him here?


... and then I will save space and stop quoting. There are also posts #161, 163 which are of other topics. then..

POST#169 - MiX votes for E!
"No, not really" is about your reads on pubby and faust, you established that after the post for which I voted you, your behavior says you're town.

Vote: E, "I need to know everyone's reads, gimme them please".


... then galz posts the novel and votes for Cayvie. Then MailMi follows to Cayvie. Cayvie then responds in #201 and then...

POST # 202 - MiX votes for Cayvie
hi galz! i feel like this reputation i've somehow garnered of "literally on point with nearly everything" is both inaccurate and unhelpful for me (you'd think i'd, like, win games ever if i was that good), and yet it's not the first time i've heard it. i don't like it, and it also feels futile to fight it; what am i supposed to do, make intentional mistakes? pay less attention?

i had legitimately not put it together that the wincon was different from normal until faust pointed it out; i assumed it was just an equivalent phrasing for the normal wincon and not put much thought into it.

and while it is true that it is unusual for me to claim quickly/unprompted (have I ever partially claimed d1 before? i don't think so), i did claim quickly at the start of d2 in BM29, which you were in (if dead at the time). i claimed here bc my role is verging on bastard territory and is likely to make me look bad if i use it. so i figure maybe it'd be more helpful to be public about that ahead of time? and also because the conversation was lagging, and i felt like i didn't have anything to talk about.

To live up to the reputation, just play better as town, not worse as scum. But you're scum, so you can't do the first one, right? I understand, I remember when I got scum after my first game and it was incredibly hard to get a motivation to improve my play.

Vote: cayvie

So I lied I am gonna throw a vote down.


Vote: MiX



Cayvie posts the response about not seeing the town win con prior to anything in the quotes above. In post #124 MiX finds Cayvie skummy for a different thing. Then over the course of the next half the game, MiX moves their votes from *not Cayvie* to *not Cayvie* to *not Cayvie*. Then Galz posts up the thing, Mail Mi jumps on board, and all of a sudden Cayvie is worth the vote? I will concede MiX is MiX and def throws the votes around a lot, so that is kind of NAI. But going 80 game posts, several vote changes and like 10 other responses without wanting to point this out - that is strange.
Kind of a compliment to MiX's game I suppose in the same way Galz's case was to Cayvie - I don't think MiX waits on a case if they have one, and I def don't think they needed Galz to summarize the cayvie case to the extent they did in order to piece it together.



TLDR - MiX throws suspicion around and then ends up on a convenient wagon in a convenient spot.

That was long. sorry.
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Re: RMM55: Falling Skies Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #296 on: April 02, 2020, 03:28:03 am »

Kewl. Now I'm happy.

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Re: RMM55: Falling Skies Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #297 on: April 02, 2020, 03:38:05 am »

i'm pretty confident that Galz is town at this point fwiw. maybe my only townread, unfortunately.
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Re: RMM55: Falling Skies Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #298 on: April 02, 2020, 03:39:53 am »

Kewl. Now I'm happy.

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were you unhappy before? what is the context of this post, weirdo?
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Re: RMM55: Falling Skies Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #299 on: April 02, 2020, 03:50:51 am »

this day has been so weird, i'm gonna vote: DatSwan. i really don't like how he misrepresented galz's case against me. it was a better case than that! not a correct one, sure, but a pretty good day 1 case, all things considered.

i mean maybe it's just that galz is fairly unusual in that he had significant experience playing with me in the olden days, so i actually give some credence to his thoughts on "how cayvie plays".

but it's weird how swan dismisses galz like that. actually it's not weird--it's buddying.
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