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Miscellaneous => Forum Games => Non-Mafia Game Threads => Topic started by: Davio on February 17, 2013, 01:34:10 pm
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Let's start with the usual information dump, thanks to Tables
Information Dump
Wonders (This will be culled down to the 7 Wonders in play after selection)
The Colossus of Rhodes (A) - Produce Ore
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: 2 Wood
(2) 2 Shields. Cost: 3 Brick
(3) 7 VPs. Cost: 4 Ore
The Colossus of Rhodes (B) - Produce Ore
(1) 1 Shield, 3 VPs, 3 Coins. Cost: 3 Stone
(2) 1 Shield, 4 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: 4 Ore
The Lighthouse of Alexandria (A) - Produce Glass
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: 2 Stone
(2) Produce one raw material. Cost: 2 Ore
(3) 7 VPs. Cost: 2 Glass
The Lighthouse of Alexandria (B) - Produce Glass
(1) Produce one raw material. Cost: 2 Brick
(2) Produce one manufactured good. Cost: 2 Wood
(3) 7 VPs. Cost: 3 Stone
The Temple of Artemis at Ephesos (A) - Produce Papyrus
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: 2 Stone
(2) 9 Coins. Cost: 2 Wood
(3) 7 VPs. Cost: 2 Papyrus
The Temple of Artemis at Ephesos (B) - Produce Papyrus
(1) 2 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: 2 Stone
(2) 3 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: 2 Wood
(3) 5 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: Papyrus, Cloth, Glass
The Hanging Gardens of Babylon (A) - Produce Brick
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: 2 Brick
(2) Tablet/Compasses/Gear. Cost: 3 Wood
(3) 7 VPs. Cost: 4 Brick
The Hanging Gardens of Babylon (B) - Produce Brick
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: Cloth, Brick
(2) Can use 7th age card instead of discarding. Cost: Glass, 2 Wood
(3) Tablet/Compasses/Gear. Cost: Papyrus, 3 Brick
The Statue of Zeus at Olympia (A) - Produce Wood
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: 2 Wood
(2) 1 free build per age. Cost: 2 Stone
(3) 7 VPs. Cost: 2 Ore
The Statue of Zeus at Olympia (B) - Produce Wood
(1) Raw materials cost 1 to buy from both sides. Cost: 2 Wood
(2) 5 VPs. Cost: 2 Stone
(3) Copy 1 guild left or right. Cost: Cloth, 2 Ore
The Mausoleum of Halikarnassos (A) - Produce Cloth
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: 2 Brick
(2) Look through the discard pile and build a card for free. Cost: 3 Ore
(3) 7 VPs. Cost: 2 Cloth
The Mausoleum of Halikarnassos (B) - Produce Cloth
(1) 2 VPs, look through the discard pile and build a card for free. Cost: 2 Ore
(2) 1 VP, look through the discard pile and build a card for free. Cost: 3 Brick
(3) Look through the discard pile and build a card for free. Cost: Glass, Papyrus, Cloth
The Pyramids of Gizah (A) - Produce Stone
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: 2 Stone
(2) 5 VPs. Cost: 3 Wood
(3) 7 VPs. Cost: 4 Stone
The Pyramids of Gizah (B) - Produce Stone
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: 2 Wood
(2) 5 VPs. Cost: 3 Stone
(3) 5 VPs. Cost: 3 Brick
(4) 7 VPs. Cost: Papyrus, 4 Stone
The Colosseum of Rome (A) - Free leaders
(1) 4 VPs. Cost: Brick, Wood, Stone
(2) 6 VPs. Cost: Cloth, 2 Stone, Brick
The Colosseum of Rome (B) - Leaders cost 2 less. Neighbours' leaders cost 1 less.
(1) 5 coins, draw 4 new leaders. Cost: Brick, Wood
(2) 3 VPs, you may play a leader. Cost: Cloth, Stone, Brick
(3) 3 VPs, you may play a leader. Cost: Papyrus, 2 Stone
The Al-Khazneh of Petra (A) - Produce Brick
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: Wood, Stone
(2) 7 VPs. Cost: 7 Coins
(3) 7 VPs. Cost: Papyrus, Wood, 2 Stone
The Al-Khazneh of Petra (B) - Produce Brick
(1) 3 VPs, everyone elses loses 2 coins. Cost: 2 Brick, 2 Ore
(2) 14 VPs. Cost: 14 Coins
The Hagia Sophia of Byzantium (A) - Produce Stone
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: Ore, Brick
(2) 2 VPs, diplomacy. Cost: Papyrus, 2 Wood
(3) 7 VPs. Cost: Cloth, Glass, 2 Brick
The Hagia Sophia of Byzantium (B) - Produce Stone
(1) 3 VPs, diplomacy. Cost: Paper, Glass, Wood, Ore
(2) 4 VPs, diplomacy. Cost: Cloth, Brick, 2 Ore
Age I cards
Normal cards - all 49 of these will be used.
Lumber Yard: Produce Wood.
Lumber Yard: Produce Wood.
Stone Pit: Produce Stone.
Stone Pit: Produce Stone.
Clay Pool: Produce Brick.
Clay Pool: Produce Brick.
Ore Vein: Produce Ore.
Ore Vein: Produce Ore.
Tree Farm: Produce Wood/Brick. Cost: 1 Coin.
Excavation: Produce Stone/Brick. Cost: 1 Coin.
Clay Pit: Produce Brick/Ore. Cost: 1 Coin.
Timber Yard: Produce Stone/Wood. Cost: 1 Coin.
Forest Cave: Produce Wood/Ore. Cost: 1 Coin.
Mine: Produce Ore/Stone. Cost: 1 Coin.
Loom: Produce Cloth.
Loom: Produce Cloth.
Glassworks: Produce Glass.
Glassworks: Produce Glass.
Press: Produce Payrus.
Press: Produce Payrus.
Pawnshop: 3 VPs.
Pawnshop: 3 VPs.
Baths: 3 VPs. Chain to: Aqueduct. Cost: Stone.
Baths: 3 VPs. Chain to: Aqueduct. Cost: Stone.
Altar: 2 VPs. Chain to: Temple.
Altar: 2 VPs. Chain to: Temple.
Theater: 2 VPs. Chain to: Statue.
Theater: 2 VPs. Chain to: Statue.
Tavern: 5 Coins.
Tavern: 5 Coins.
Tavern: 5 Coins.
East Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the right. Chain to: Forum.
East Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the right. Chain to: Forum.
West Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the left. Chain to: Forum.
West Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the left. Chain to: Forum.
Marketplace: Manufactured Goods cost 1 to buy from both sides. Chain to: Caravansery.
Marketplace: Manufactured Goods cost 1 to buy from both sides. Chain to: Caravansery.
Stockade: 1 Shield. Cost: Wood.
Stockade: 1 Shield. Cost: Wood.
Barracks: 1 Shield. Cost: Ore.
Barracks: 1 Shield. Cost: Ore.
Guard Tower: 1 Shield. Cost: Brick.
Guard Tower: 1 Shield. Cost: Brick.
Apothecary: Compasses. Chain to: Stables & Dispensary. Cost: Cloth.
Apothecary: Compasses. Chain to: Stables & Dispensary. Cost: Cloth.
Workshop: Gear. Chain to: Archery Range & Laboratory. Cost: Glass.
Workshop: Gear. Chain to: Archery Range & Laboratory. Cost: Glass.
Scriptorium: Tablet. Chain to: Courthouse & Library. Cost: Papyrus.
Scriptorium: Tablet. Chain to: Courthouse & Library. Cost: Papyrus.
Cities - 7 of these cards will be randomly added to the deck.
Clandestine Dock West: Once per turn, pay one less coin to buy resources from your left. Cost: 1 Coin.
Clandestine Dock East: Once per turn, pay one less coin to buy resources from your right. Cost: 1 Coin.
Militia: 2 Shields. Cost: 3 Coins.
Hideout: 2 VPs, everyone elses loses 1 coin.
Pigeon Loft: Copy a science symbol on a green card on your left or right.. Cost: 1 Coin, Ore.
Gambling Den: 6 Coins. Each neighbour gets 1 coin..
Residence: 1 VP, diplomacy. Cost: Brick.
Secret Warehouse: Produce any one resource that you already produce.. Cost: 2 Coins.
Gates of the City: 4 VPs. Cost: 1 Coin, Wood.
Age II cards
Normal cards - all 49 of these will be used.
Sawmill: Produce two Wood. Cost: 1 Coin.
Sawmill: Produce two Wood. Cost: 1 Coin.
Quarry: Produce two Stone. Cost: 1 Coin.
Quarry: Produce two Stone. Cost: 1 Coin.
Brickyard: Produce two Brick. Cost: 1 Coin.
Brickyard: Produce two Brick. Cost: 1 Coin.
Foundry: Produce two Ore. Cost: 1 Coin.
Foundry: Produce two Ore. Cost: 1 Coin.
Loom: Produce Cloth.
Loom: Produce Cloth.
Glassworks: Produce Glass.
Glassworks: Produce Glass.
Press: Produce Payrus.
Press: Produce Payrus.
Aqueduct: 5 VPs. Chain from: Baths. Cost: 3 Stone.
Aqueduct: 5 VPs. Chain from: Baths. Cost: 3 Stone.
Temple: 3 VPs. Chain from: Altar. Chain to: Pantheon. Cost: Wood, Brick, Glass.
Temple: 3 VPs. Chain from: Altar. Chain to: Pantheon. Cost: Wood, Brick, Glass.
Statue: 4 VPs. Chain from: Theater. Chain to: Gardens. Cost: Wood, 2 Ore.
Statue: 4 VPs. Chain from: Theater. Chain to: Gardens. Cost: Wood, 2 Ore.
Courthouse: 4 VPs. Chain from: Scriptorium. Cost: 2 Brick, Cloth.
Courthouse: 4 VPs. Chain from: Scriptorium. Cost: 2 Brick, Cloth.
Forum: Produce Cloth/Glass/Paper. Chain from: West/East Trading Post. Chain to: Haven. Cost: 2 Brick.
Forum: Produce Cloth/Glass/Paper. Chain from: West/East Trading Post. Chain to: Haven. Cost: 2 Brick.
Forum: Produce Cloth/Glass/Paper. Chain from: West/East Trading Post. Chain to: Haven. Cost: 2 Brick.
Caravansery: Produce Brick/Stone/Ore/Wood. Chain from: Marketplace. Chain to: Lighthouse. Cost: 2 Wood.
Caravansery: Produce Brick/Stone/Ore/Wood. Chain from: Marketplace. Chain to: Lighthouse. Cost: 2 Wood.
Caravansery: Produce Brick/Stone/Ore/Wood. Chain from: Marketplace. Chain to: Lighthouse. Cost: 2 Wood.
Vineyard: 1 Coin per brown card in yours+neighbours cities.
Vineyard: 1 Coin per brown card in yours+neighbours cities.
Bazaar: 2 Coins per gray card in yours+neighbours cities.
Bazaar: 2 Coins per gray card in yours+neighbours cities.
Walls: 2 Shields. Chain to: Fortifications. Cost: 3 Stone.
Walls: 2 Shields. Chain to: Fortifications. Cost: 3 Stone.
Training Ground: 2 Shields. Chain to: Circus. Cost: Wood, 2 Ore.
Training Ground: 2 Shields. Chain to: Circus. Cost: Wood, 2 Ore.
Training Ground: 2 Shields. Chain to: Circus. Cost: Wood, 2 Ore.
Stables: 2 Shields. Chain from: Apothecary. Cost: Ore, Brick. Wood.
Stables: 2 Shields. Chain from: Apothecary. Cost: Ore, Brick. Wood.
Archery Range: 2 Shields. Chain from: Workshop. Cost: 2 Wood, Ore.
Archery Range: 2 Shields. Chain from: Workshop. Cost: 2 Wood, Ore.
Dispensary: Compasses. Chain from: Apothecary. Chain to: Arena & Lodge. Cost: 2 Ore, Glass.
Dispensary: Compasses. Chain from: Apothecary. Chain to: Arena & Lodge. Cost: 2 Ore, Glass.
Laboratory: Gear. Chain from: Workshop. Chain to: Siege Workshop & Observatory. Cost: 2 Brick, Papyrus.
Laboratory: Gear. Chain from: Workshop. Chain to: Siege Workshop & Observatory. Cost: 2 Brick, Papyrus.
Library: Tablet. Chain from: Scriptorium. Chain to: Senate & University. Cost: 2 Stone, Cloth.
Library: Tablet. Chain from: Scriptorium. Chain to: Senate & University. Cost: 2 Stone, Cloth.
School: Tablet. Chain to: Academy & Study. Cost: Wood, Papyrus.
School: Tablet. Chain to: Academy & Study. Cost: Wood, Papyrus.
Cities - 7 of these cards will be randomly added to the deck.
Mercenaries: 3 Shields. Cost: 4 Coins, Papyrus.
Lair: 3 VPs, everyone else loses 2 coins. Cost: Wood, Glass.
Black Market: Produce one resource you currently do not produce. Cost: Ore, Cloth.
Gambling House: 9 Coins. Each neighbour gets 2 coins.. Cost: 1 Coin.
Architect Cabinet: 2 VPs. Your wonder stages no longer cost resources (but may still cost money). Cost: 1 Coin, Papyrus.
Spy Ring: Copy a science symbol on a green card on your left or right.. Cost: 2 Coins, Stone, Brick.
Consulate: 2 VPs, diplomacy. Cost: Brick, Papyrus.
Sepulcher: 4 VPs, everyone else loses 1 coin per military victory. Cost: Stone, Glass, Cloth.
Tabularium: 6 VPs. Cost: 2 Coins, Ore, Wood, Cloth.
Age III cards
Normal cards - all 40 of these will be used.
Pantheon: 7 VPs. Chain from: Temple. Cost: 2 Brick, Ore, Papyrus, Cloth, Glass.
Pantheon: 7 VPs. Chain from: Temple. Cost: 2 Brick, Ore, Papyrus, Cloth, Glass.
Gardens: 5 VPs. Chain from: Statue. Cost: Wood, 2 Brick.
Gardens: 5 VPs. Chain from: Statue. Cost: Wood, 2 Brick.
Town Hall: 6 VPs. Cost: Glass, Ore, 2 Stone.
Town Hall: 6 VPs. Cost: Glass, Ore, 2 Stone.
Town Hall: 6 VPs. Cost: Glass, Ore, 2 Stone.
Palace: 8 VPs. Cost: Glass, Papyrus, Cloth, Brick, Wood, Ore, Stone.
Palace: 8 VPs. Cost: Glass, Papyrus, Cloth, Brick, Wood, Ore, Stone.
Senate: 6 VPs. Chain from: Library. Cost: Ore, Stone, 2 Wood.
Senate: 6 VPs. Chain from: Library. Cost: Ore, Stone, 2 Wood.
Haven: 1 Coin & 1 VP per brown card. Chain from: Forum. Cost: Cloth, Ore, Wood.
Haven: 1 Coin & 1 VP per brown card. Chain from: Forum. Cost: Cloth, Ore, Wood.
Lighthouse: 1 Coin & 1 VP per yellow card (including this). Chain from: Caravansery. Cost: Glass, Stone.
Lighthouse: 1 Coin & 1 VP per yellow card (including this). Chain from: Caravansery. Cost: Glass, Stone.
Chamber of Commerce: 2 Coins & 2 VPs per gray card. Cost: 2 Brick, Papyrus.
Chamber of Commerce: 2 Coins & 2 VPs per gray card. Cost: 2 Brick, Papyrus.
Arena: 3 Coins & 1 VP per wonder stage completed. Chain from: Dispensary. Cost: Ore, 2 Stone.
Arena: 3 Coins & 1 VP per wonder stage completed. Chain from: Dispensary. Cost: Ore, 2 Stone.
Arena: 3 Coins & 1 VP per wonder stage completed. Chain from: Dispensary. Cost: Ore, 2 Stone.
Fortifications: 3 Shields. Chain from: Walls. Cost: Stone, 3 Ore.
Fortifications: 3 Shields. Chain from: Walls. Cost: Stone, 3 Ore.
Circus: 3 Shields. Chain from: Training Ground. Cost: 3 Stone, Ore.
Circus: 3 Shields. Chain from: Training Ground. Cost: 3 Stone, Ore.
Circus: 3 Shields. Chain from: Training Ground. Cost: 3 Stone, Ore.
Arsenal: 3 Shields. Cost: Ore, 2 Wood, Cloth.
Arsenal: 3 Shields. Cost: Ore, 2 Wood, Cloth.
Arsenal: 3 Shields. Cost: Ore, 2 Wood, Cloth.
Siege Workshop: 3 Shields. Chain from: Laboratory. Cost: Wood, 3 Brick.
Siege Workshop: 3 Shields. Chain from: Laboratory. Cost: Wood, 3 Brick.
Lodge: Compasses. Chain from: Dispensary. Cost: 2 Brick, Cloth, Papyrus.
Lodge: Compasses. Chain from: Dispensary. Cost: 2 Brick, Cloth, Papyrus.
Observatory: Gear. Chain from: Laboratory. Cost: 2 Ore, Glass, Cloth.
Observatory: Gear. Chain from: Laboratory. Cost: 2 Ore, Glass, Cloth.
University: Tablet. Chain from: Library. Cost: 2 Wood, Papyrus, Glass.
University: Tablet. Chain from: Library. Cost: 2 Wood, Papyrus, Glass.
Academy: Compasses. Chain from: School. Cost: 3 Stone, Glass.
Academy: Compasses. Chain from: School. Cost: 3 Stone, Glass.
Study: Gear. Chain from: School. Cost: Wood, Papyrus, Cloth.
Study: Gear. Chain from: School. Cost: Wood, Papyrus, Cloth.
Guilds - 9 of these will be randomly added to the deck.
Workers Guild: 1 VP per brown card in each of your neighbours cities. Cost: 2 Ore, Brick, Stone, Wood.
Craftsmens Guild: 2 VPs per gray card in each of your neighbours cities. Cost: 2 Ore, 2 Stone.
Traders Guild: 1 VP per yellow card in each of your neighbours cities. Cost: Glass, Cloth, Papyrus.
Philosophers Guild: 1 VP per green card in each of your neighbours cities. Cost: 3 Brick, Cloth, Papyrus.
Spies Guild: 1 VP per red card in each of your neighbours cities. Cost: 3 Brick, Glass.
Strategists Guild: 1 VP per defeat token in each of your neighbours cities. Cost: 2 Ore, Stone, Cloth.
Shipowners Guild: 1 VP per brown, gray and purple card in your city. Cost: 3 Wood, Papyrus, Glass.
Scientists Guild: Compasses/Gear/Tablet. Cost: 2 Wood, 2 Ore, Papyrus.
Magistrates Guild: 1 VP per blue card in each of your neighbours cities. Cost: 3 Wood, Stone, Cloth.
Builders Guild: 1 VP per wonder stage constructed by you and each of your neighbours. Cost: 2 Stone, 2 Brick, Glass.
Gamer's Guild: 1 VP per three coins owned.. Cost: Stone, Brick, Wood, Ore.
Courtesan's Guild: Choose a leader in an adjacent city. You gain the effect of that leader. Cost: Wood, Brick, Glass, Cloth.
Diplomat's Guild: 1 VP per leader in each of your neighbours cities. Cost: Brick, Wood, Glass, Papyrus.
Architect's Guild: 3 VPs per purple card in each of your neighbours cities. Cost: 3 Ore, Brick, Papyrus, Cloth.
Counterfeiter's Guild: 5 VPs, Everyone else loses 3 coins.. Cost: 3 Ore, Glass, Cloth.
Guild of Shadows: 1 VP per black card in each of your neighbours cities. Cost: 2 Brick, Wood, Papyrus.
Mouner's Guild: 1 VP per victory token in each of your neighbours cities. Cost: 2 Brick, Wood, Glass, Cloth.
Cities - 7 of these will be randomly added to the deck
Contingent: 5 Shields. Cost: 5 Coins, Cloth.
Brotherhood: 4 VPs, everyone else loses 3 coins. Cost: 2 Wood, Ore, Cloth.
Secret Society: 1 Coin & 1 VP per black card. Cost: Stone, Papyrus.
Slave Market: 1 Coin & 1 VP per victory token. Cost: 2 Ore, 2 Wood.
Torture Chamber: Copy a science symbol on a green card on your left or right.. Cost: 3 Coins, 2 Ore, Glass.
Builder's Union: 4 VPs, everyone elses loses 1 coin per wonder stage built. Cost: Brick, Wood, Papyrus, Glass.
Embassy: 3 VPs, diplomacy. Cost: Stone, Cloth, Papyrus.
Capitol: 8 VPs. Cost: 2 Coins, 2 Brick, 2 Stone, Glass, Papyrus.
Cenotaph: 5 VPs, everyon else loses 1 coin per victory token. Cost: 2 Brick, Stone, Cloth, Glass.
Leaders - 4 of these will be dealt to every player, then they will be drafted in counter clockwise direction.
Amytis: 2 VPs per Wonder stage built.. Cost: 4 Coins.
Alexander: 1 VP per Victory token.. Cost: 3 Coins.
Aristotle: 3 VPs per science set.. Cost: 3 Coins.
Justinian: 3 VPs per set of green, red and blue cards.. Cost: 3 Coins.
Plato: 7 VPs per set of brown, gray, blue, red, green, yellow and purple cards.. Cost: 4 Coins.
Midas: 1 VP per three coins owned.. Cost: 3 Coins.
Bilkis: Once per turn, may pay 1 coin to the bank to generate any one resource. Cost: 4 Coins.
Macenas: All future leaders can be played for free. Cost: 1 Coin.
Ramses: All purple cards can be played for free. Cost: 3 Coins.
Tomyris: During conflict, defeat tokens you would earn are instead given to the city which beats you . Cost: 4 Coins.
Hannibal: 1 Shield. Cost: 2 Coins.
Ceaser: 2 Shields. Cost: 5 Coins.
Hatshepsut: Once per turn per neighbour, earn one coin after buying a resource from a neighbour.. Cost: 2 Coins.
Nero: Gain 2 coins for each victory token you earn.. Cost: 1 Coin.
Xenophon: Gain 2 coins for each yellow card you play.. Cost: 2 Coins.
Vitruvius: Gain 2 coins each time you build a card through chaining.. Cost: 1 Coin.
Solomon: Look through the discard pile and build a card for free.. Cost: 3 Coins.
Croseus: Take 6 coins. Cost: 1 Coin.
Hypatia: 1 VP per green card.. Cost: 4 Coins.
Nebuchadnezzar: 1 VP per blue card.. Cost: 4 Coins.
Phidias: 1 VP per brown card.. Cost: 3 Coins.
Varro: 1 VP per yellow card. Cost: 3 Coins.
Pericles: 2 VPs per red card. Cost: 6 Coins.
Praxiteles: 2 VPs per gray card. Cost: 3 Coins.
Hiram: 2 VPs per purple card. Cost: 3 Coins.
Sappo: 2 VPs. Cost: 1 Coin.
Zenobia: 3 VPs. Cost: 2 Coins.
Nefertiti: 4 VPs. Cost: 3 Coins.
Cleopatra: 5 VPs. Cost: 4 Coins.
Archimedes: Green cards cost 1 resource less. Cost: 4 Coins.
Leonidas: Red cards cost 1 resource less. Cost: 2 Coins.
Hammurabi: Blue cards cost 1 resource less. Cost: 2 Coins.
Imhotep: Wonder stages cost 1 resource less. Cost: 3 Coins.
Euclid: Compasses. Cost: 5 Coins.
Ptolemy: Tablet. Cost: 5 Coins.
Pythagoras: Gear. Cost: 5 Coins.
Berenice: Once per turn, earn 1 coin whenever you earn coins. Cost: 2 Coins.
Darius: 1 VP per black card.. Cost: 4 Coins.
Aspasia: 2 VPs, diplomacy. Cost: 3 Coins.
Caligua: Once per age, build a black card for free.. Cost: 3 Coins.
Semiramis: 1 Shiled per defeat token.. Cost: 2 Coins.
Diocletian: Gain 2 coins for each black card you play.. Cost: 2 Coins.
Rules
Full rules for Cities (including team play) can be found here (PDF) (http://www.rprod.com/uploads/file/7WONDERS_CITIES_RULES_EN.pdf).
Here is the part about team play:
Rules for team play
During your games with 4, 6 and 8 players, you can now play 7 Wonders with a variant for 2-player teams. The teammates must sit next to each other.
Overview of an Age
During the game, the teammates can freely communicate and show each other the cards in their hand (including Leader cards if that expansion is used).
A player must use their own resource before buying one from their neighbors.
It is forbidden for the teammates to:
- share coins,
- trade cards,
- not pay for commerce between them,
- buy resources from each other while they can build a structure through a chain.
When a player puts in play a card which causes a monetary loss, the player’s teammate must also pay that loss.
In the team game, the conflict resolution and Diplomacy differ from the classic game.
Team resolution of conflicts
In the team game, the teammates do not wage war against each other. Each player will have to face the opposing city which neighbors them.
Note: during the Conflict resolution, the amount of tokens given is doubled:
- a victory during Age I is worth 2 Conflict (Victory) tokens each worth 1 victory point,
- a victory during Age II is worth 2 Conflict (Victory) tokens each worth 3 victory points,
- a victory during Age III is worth 2 Conflict (Victory) tokens each worth 5 victory points.
- defeats are each worth 2 Conflict (Defeat) tokens with a value of -1 victory point.
Team diplomacy
A player who puts a card with the symbol in play takes a Diplomacy token from the bank and places it on their board.
During the next conflict, the player still takes part in the resolution,but they and their opponent only take a single Conflict token instead of two. The use of the Diplomacy token is mandatory; it is then discarded.
Clarifications :
- The use of a Diplomacy token by a player doesn’t affect their teammate.
- It is possible for a player to win thec onflict even if that player has played a Diplomacy token.
- If the 2 members of a team have each played a Diplomacy token, they each take a single copy of the Conflict token,as do their respective opponents.
End of the game
Each player totals his or her victory points and then the two teammates total up their score to get their team’s score. The team with the highest score wins.
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Qvist as the Mausoleum of Halikarnassos (A)
Coins: 4
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: 2 Brick
(2) Look through the discard pile and build a card for free. Cost: 3 Ore
(3) 7 VPs. Cost: 2 Cloth
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Cloth
Mine: Produce Ore/Stone
Ore Vein: Produce Ore
Nero: Gain 2 coins for each victory token you earn.
Davio as the Al-Khazneh of Petra (B)
Coins: 5
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 3 VPs, everyone elses loses 2 coins. Cost: 2 Brick, 2 Ore
(2) 14 VPs. Cost: 14 Coins
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Brick
Tree Farm: Produce Wood/Brick
Marketplace: Manufactured Goods cost 1 to buy from both sides
Xenophon: Gain 2 coins for each yellow card you play.
Tables as the Colossus of Rhodes (B)
Coins: 2
Debt: 0
Strength: 1
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 1 Shield, 3 VPs, 3 Coins. Cost: 3 Stone
(2) 1 Shield, 4 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: 4 Ore
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Ore
Forest Cave: Produce Wood/Ore.
Excavation: Produce Stone/Brick.
Hannibal: 1 Shield.
Insomniac as the Temple of Artemis at Ephesos (B)
Coins: 3
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 2 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: 2 Stone
(2) 3 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: 2 Wood
(3) 5 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: Papyrus, Cloth, Glass
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Papyrus
Glassworks: Produce Glass
Lumber Yard: Produce Wood
Aristotle: 3 VPs per science set
Galzria as the Lighthouse of Alexandria (B)
Coins: 6
Debt: 0
Strength: 1
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) Produce one raw material. Cost: 2 Brick
(2) Produce one manufactured good. Cost: 2 Wood
(3) 7 VPs. Cost: 3 Stone
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Glass
Tavern: 5 Coins
Barracks: 1 Shield.
Bilkis: Once per turn, may pay 1 coin to the bank to generate any one resource.
mith as the Hagia Sophia of Byzantium (B)
Coins: 7
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 3 VPs, diplomacy. Cost: Paper, Glass, Wood, Ore
(2) 4 VPs, diplomacy. Cost: Cloth, Brick, 2 Ore
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Stone
Tavern: 5 Coins
Scriptorium: Tablet. Chain to: Courthouse & Library.
Archimedes: Green cards cost 1 resource less.
eHalcyon as the Pyramids of Gizah (B)
Coins: 4
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: 2 Wood
(2) 5 VPs. Cost: 3 Stone
(3) 5 VPs. Cost: 3 Brick
(4) 7 VPs. Cost: Papyrus, 4 Stone
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Stone
Timber Yard: Produce Stone/Wood
Clay Pit: Produce Brick/Ore.
Diocletian: Gain 2 coins for each black card you play.
Watno as the Statue of Zeus at Olympia (A)
Coins: 9
Debt: 0
Strength: 1
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: 2 Wood
(2) 1 free build per age. Cost: 2 Stone
(3) 7 VPs. Cost: 2 Ore
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Wood
Baths: 3 VPs. Chain to: Aqueduct.
Stockade: 1 Shield.
Croesus: Take 6 coins.
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Qvist (Halikarnassos):
Davio (Petra):
Tables (Rhodes): DONE
Insomniac (Ephesos): DONE
Galzria (Alexandria):
mith (Byzantium):
eHalcyon (Giza):
Watno (Olympia):
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Uh, Halikarnassos again. >:(
And I'm confused. Where to post my Wonder side choice?
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Well Insomn and I have chosen in our Quicktopic, we'll post when everyone has chosen I think is the plan?
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Well Insomn and I have chosen in our Quicktopic, we'll post when everyone has chosen I think is the plan?
That's indeed the plan.
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Qvist (Halikarnassos): DONE
Davio (Petra): DONE
Tables (Rhodes): DONE
Insomniac (Ephesos): DONE
Galzria (Alexandria):
mith (Byzantium):
eHalcyon (Giza):
Watno (Olympia):
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Qvist (Halikarnassos): DONE
Davio (Petra): DONE
Tables (Rhodes): DONE
Insomniac (Ephesos): DONE
Galzria (Alexandria): DONE
mith (Byzantium): DONE
eHalcyon (Giza):
Watno (Olympia):
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We are mostly decided but I want to wait for Watno's confirmation.
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Ok, since we're last, I'll post straight away:
I take Olympia side A, eHalc takes Giza side B.
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Since everyone has decided, I shall send out leaders. I'll be busy the rest of today, so now is the best time for me.
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I've taken Rhodes B, Insomniac has taken Ephesos B.
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I take side B for Alexandria, mith takes side B for Byzantium.
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Player order convention is like other games, right? Below is to the right? So I am passing leaders to Watno, Watno is passing to Qvist?
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I had presumed so
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Qvist (Halikarnassos):
Davio (Petra):
Tables (Rhodes):
Insomniac (Ephesos):
Galzria (Alexandria): DONE
mith (Byzantium): DONE
eHalcyon (Giza):
Watno (Olympia):
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Qvist (Halikarnassos):
Davio (Petra):
Tables (Rhodes):
Insomniac (Ephesos):
Galzria (Alexandria): DONE
mith (Byzantium): DONE
eHalcyon (Giza): DONE
Watno (Olympia): DONE
We're still waiting for Qvist and Davio to give us their wonder side, eh?
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Qvist takes Halikarnassos A and I take Petra B.
Maybe it's useful to start listing tableaus?
Davio as the Al-Khazneh of Petra (B)
Coins: 6
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 3 VPs, everyone elses loses 2 coins. Cost: 2 Brick, 2 Ore
(2) 14 VPs. Cost: 14 Coins
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Brick
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There's nothing on our tableaus yet, so we can start with that after selecting leaders.
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Qvist (Halikarnassos):
Davio (Petra): DONE
Tables (Rhodes):
Insomniac (Ephesos):
Galzria (Alexandria): DONE
mith (Byzantium): DONE
eHalcyon (Giza): DONE
Watno (Olympia): DONE
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There's nothing on our tableaus yet, so we can start with that after selecting leaders.
Fair enough, I just wanted to jot down a pretty format to set an example. :)
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Qvist (Halikarnassos): DONE
Davio (Petra): DONE
Tables (Rhodes):
Insomniac (Ephesos):
Galzria (Alexandria): DONE
mith (Byzantium): DONE
eHalcyon (Giza): DONE
Watno (Olympia): DONE
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Qvist as the Mausoleum of Halikarnassos (A)
Coins: 6
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: 2 Brick
(2) Look through the discard pile and build a card for free. Cost: 3 Ore
(3) 7 VPs. Cost: 2 Cloth
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Cloth
Davio as the Al-Khazneh of Petra (B)
Coins: 6
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 3 VPs, everyone elses loses 2 coins. Cost: 2 Brick, 2 Ore
(2) 14 VPs. Cost: 14 Coins
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Brick
Tables as the Colossus of Rhodes (B)
Coins: 6
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 1 Shield, 3 VPs, 3 Coins. Cost: 3 Stone
(2) 1 Shield, 4 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: 4 Ore
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Ore
Insomniac as the Temple of Artemis at Ephesos (B)
Coins: 6
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 2 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: 2 Stone
(2) 3 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: 2 Wood
(3) 5 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: Papyrus, Cloth, Glass
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Papyrus
Galzria as the Lighthouse of Alexandria (B)
Coins: 6
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) Produce one raw material. Cost: 2 Brick
(2) Produce one manufactured good. Cost: 2 Wood
(3) 7 VPs. Cost: 3 Stone
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Glass
mith as the Hagia Sophia of Byzantium (B)
Coins: 6
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 3 VPs, diplomacy. Cost: Paper, Glass, Wood, Ore
(2) 4 VPs, diplomacy. Cost: Cloth, Brick, 2 Ore
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Stone
eHalcyon as the Pyramids of Gizah (B)
Coins: 6
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: 2 Wood
(2) 5 VPs. Cost: 3 Stone
(3) 5 VPs. Cost: 3 Brick
(4) 7 VPs. Cost: Papyrus, 4 Stone
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Stone
Watno as the Statue of Zeus at Olympia (A)
Coins: 6
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: 2 Wood
(2) 1 free build per age. Cost: 2 Stone
(3) 7 VPs. Cost: 2 Ore
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Wood
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Well done!
As always the person above you is to your left.
Leaders are passed right, so down in this list.
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Qvist (Halikarnassos): DONE, Hand 2 received
Davio (Petra): DONE
Tables (Rhodes):
Insomniac (Ephesos):
Galzria (Alexandria): DONE
mith (Byzantium): DONE
eHalcyon (Giza): DONE
Watno (Olympia): DONE
Right this way?
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Leaders pass right.
Also I think it's worth noting, don't pass your leaders on until the whole next pair is ready. Otherwise you get a situation where it's optimal for the right partner to just sit as long as possible.
(Me and Insomn still aren't ready. We think we know what we want but I want him to confirm the choice)
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That's probably a good idea.
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Well, at least eHalc and me always kinda do our decisions together, so not much difference here.
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Mith, you can send us your leaders when you are around. :)
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Or Galz can.
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eHal gets mith's leaders?
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yep.
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Qvist (Halikarnassos): DONE, Hand 2 received
Davio (Petra): DONE
Tables (Rhodes):
Insomniac (Ephesos):
Galzria (Alexandria): DONE
mith (Byzantium): DONE, SENT
eHalcyon (Giza): DONE
Watno (Olympia): DONE
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Qvist (Halikarnassos): DONE, SENT
Davio (Petra): DONE
Tables (Rhodes):
Insomniac (Ephesos):
Galzria (Alexandria): DONE
mith (Byzantium): DONE, SENT
eHalcyon (Giza): DONE
Watno (Olympia): DONE, SENT
Qvist (Halikarnassos):
Davio (Petra):
Tables (Rhodes):
Insomniac (Ephesos):
Galzria (Alexandria):
mith (Byzantium):
eHalcyon (Giza): DONE
Watno (Olympia): DONE
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We should probably wait for Tables and Ins before we start sending hand 2 though. :)
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I thought you just went along in 7 Wonders II with the Leaders and it worked?
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I thought you just went along in 7 Wonders II with the Leaders and it worked?
Did we? I don't remember now. I don't mind either way.
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Split personalities!:
Mith, you can send us your leaders when you are around. :)
We should probably wait for Tables and Ins before we start sending hand 2 though. :)
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Split personalities!:
Mith, you can send us your leaders when you are around. :)
We should probably wait for Tables and Ins before we start sending hand 2 though. :)
Errr, sorry. I meant sending hand 3, which is the second sending. Hahaha. We should wait before sending hand 3!
The hand you sent was your hand 1! Sending hand 1 is OK. After everyone has chosen hand 1, then we can send hand 2.
Or we just go. Whatever. :P
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Qvist (Halikarnassos): DONE, Hand 2 received
Davio (Petra): DONE
Tables (Rhodes): DONE
Insomniac (Ephesos): DONE
Galzria (Alexandria): DONE
mith (Byzantium): DONE, SENT
eHalcyon (Giza): DONE
Watno (Olympia): DONE
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All first leaders have been chosen. Everyone should forward right hand partner's hand 1 (minus choice) to the next team if they haven't already done so.
Qvist (Halikarnassos):
Davio (Petra):
Tables (Rhodes):
Insomniac (Ephesos):
Galzria (Alexandria):
mith (Byzantium):
eHalcyon (Giza): DONE
Watno (Olympia): DONE
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Qvist (Halikarnassos): DONE
Davio (Petra): DONE
Tables (Rhodes):
Insomniac (Ephesos):
Galzria (Alexandria):
mith (Byzantium):
eHalcyon (Giza): DONE
Watno (Olympia): DONE
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Qvist (Halikarnassos): DONE
Davio (Petra): DONE
Tables (Rhodes):
Insomniac (Ephesos):
Galzria (Alexandria): DONE
mith (Byzantium): DONE, SENT
eHalcyon (Giza): DONE
Watno (Olympia): DONE
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Qvist (Halikarnassos): DONE
Davio (Petra): DONE
Tables (Rhodes): DONE
Insomniac (Ephesos): DONE & SENT
Galzria (Alexandria): DONE
mith (Byzantium): DONE, SENT
eHalcyon (Giza): DONE
Watno (Olympia): DONE
Just as a FYI to everyone, I do still think the best option when sending cards is to copy in both your partner (so they know it's gone) and both members of the forwarding team (so they don't have to wait for the one to post the information).
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That's all hands 2 done, so time to send them along. 2 leaders heading right...
Edit: or, wait... I am not sure of where we are. :P
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Yes, send along your 2 leaders.
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Yes, send along your 2 leaders.
We are just waiting for our singleton leader now.
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Qvist (Halikarnassos): DONE
Davio (Petra): DONE, SENT
Tables (Rhodes): DONE
Insomniac (Ephesos): DONE & SENT
Galzria (Alexandria): DONE
mith (Byzantium): DONE, SENT
eHalcyon (Giza): DONE
Watno (Olympia): DONE
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Qvist (Halikarnassos):
Davio (Petra): DONE
Tables (Rhodes):
Insomniac (Ephesos):
Galzria (Alexandria):
mith (Byzantium):
eHalcyon (Giza):
Watno (Olympia):
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Qvist (Halikarnassos):
Davio (Petra): DONE
Tables (Rhodes):
Insomniac (Ephesos):
Galzria (Alexandria):
mith (Byzantium):
eHalcyon (Giza): DONE
Watno (Olympia): DONE
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Qvist (Halikarnassos):
Davio (Petra): DONE
Tables (Rhodes):
Insomniac (Ephesos):
Galzria (Alexandria): DONE
mith (Byzantium): DONE, SENT
eHalcyon (Giza): DONE
Watno (Olympia): DONE
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Davio done, but not Qvist?
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He is, just wanted to run my suggestion by him, but he agrees.
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He is, just wanted to run my suggestion by him, but he agrees.
So shall we send you your last leader, or are you still deciding?
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We have decided.
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We have decided.
Sent.
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Qvist (Halikarnassos): DONE
Davio (Petra): DONE
Tables (Rhodes):
Insomniac (Ephesos):
Galzria (Alexandria):
mith (Byzantium):
eHalcyon (Giza):
Watno (Olympia):
Okay, we both have our 4 leaders.
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Qvist (Halikarnassos):
Davio (Petra):
Tables (Rhodes):
Insomniac (Ephesos):
Galzria (Alexandria):
mith (Byzantium):
eHalcyon (Giza): DONE
Watno (Olympia):
Can we skip multiple DONE quotes and just post when we have selected our Age I leader action? If anyone still needs their fourth leader, prod your neighbour for it. Then select your leaders (or decide to discard your leader or whatever) and update here. When everyone has selected, we can all reveal and Kuild can deal our Age I starting hands. :)
I have made a decision for my Age I leader. Watno has not yet.
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Insomniac and Tables are not yet done choosing afaik, as I have not received my final leader.
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Qvist (Halikarnassos):
Davio (Petra):
Tables (Rhodes):
Insomniac (Ephesos):
Galzria (Alexandria):
mith (Byzantium):
eHalcyon (Giza): DONE
Watno (Olympia): DONE
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Me and Insomn are now done. Davio/Qvist, send us my last leader please
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Qvist (Halikarnassos):
Davio (Petra):
Tables (Rhodes):
Insomniac (Ephesos):
Galzria (Alexandria): DONE
mith (Byzantium): DONE
eHalcyon (Giza): DONE
Watno (Olympia): DONE
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Me and Insomn are now done. Davio/Qvist, send us my last leader please
Done
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Davio, Qvist, have you guys chosen your Age I leaders?
Tables, Insom -- same question...
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Checking... nope. Insomn is only on for short periods of the day I believe.
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I think we did.
Qvist (Halikarnassos): DONE
Davio (Petra): DONE
Tables (Rhodes):
Insomniac (Ephesos):
Galzria (Alexandria): DONE
mith (Byzantium): DONE
eHalcyon (Giza): DONE
Watno (Olympia): DONE
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Yeah, we're done, but the QT's are sometimes a bit awkward. They light up as "new posts" even when you posted the new thing yourself, so you have to read back if you posted something just to make sure it lights up again when your buddy posts.
I'm very curious to see how this game will play out and how much it differs from regular single player 7W.
Since now you have 2 players playing 2 boards each they can do even more theorycrafting!
All very exciting! ;D
Oh, and I hope no one feels like they're just being told what to do by the other player, but since it's only 2p and not a full co-op I think it's ok.
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Insomniac, where aarreeee youuuu? Need you to weigh in on your leader choice...
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We should consider using an alternative leader draft (http://www.antoinebauza.fr/?p=2053) if we do another game with Leaders.
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I play Hannibal (2 coins)
Insomniac plays Aristotle (3 coins)
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I play Croseus: Take 6 coins. Cost: 1 Coin. (now at 11 coins)
eHalc plays Diocletian: Gain 2 coins for each black card you play. Cost: 2 Coins. (now at 4 coins)
I also alerted Kuildeous that we're ready for Age I hands.
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I play Xenophon: Gain 2 coins for each yellow card you play. Cost: 2 Coins. (now at 4 coins)
Qvist plays: Nero: Gain 2 coins for each victory token you earn. Cost: 1 Coin. (now at 5 coins)
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So just Galz and mith and we can start A I.
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I play Hannibal (2 coins)
Insomniac plays Aristotle (3 coins)
What do these guys do again?
Edit: never mind, they're in the OP.
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Galzria plays Bilkis
Mith plays Archimedes
That's 4 Coins for each.
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Each player should now have his Age I cards.
As I understand Cities, I shuffled in 7 Black cards to bring the total deck size to 56 cards, so each person has 7 cards. I never dealt out for 8 players before, but that's how I understand it.
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That's right yes. Would it be too much to ask for Insomns hand? I need to know if it's as disastrous as my own.
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Qvist as the Mausoleum of Halikarnassos (A)
Coins: 5
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: 2 Brick
(2) Look through the discard pile and build a card for free. Cost: 3 Ore
(3) 7 VPs. Cost: 2 Cloth
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Cloth
Nero: Gain 2 coins for each victory token you earn.
Davio as the Al-Khazneh of Petra (B)
Coins: 4
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 3 VPs, everyone elses loses 2 coins. Cost: 2 Brick, 2 Ore
(2) 14 VPs. Cost: 14 Coins
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Brick
Xenophon: Gain 2 coins for each yellow card you play.
Tables as the Colossus of Rhodes (B)
Coins: 4
Debt: 0
Strength: 1
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 1 Shield, 3 VPs, 3 Coins. Cost: 3 Stone
(2) 1 Shield, 4 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: 4 Ore
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Ore
Hannibal: 1 Shield.
Insomniac as the Temple of Artemis at Ephesos (B)
Coins: 3
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 2 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: 2 Stone
(2) 3 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: 2 Wood
(3) 5 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: Papyrus, Cloth, Glass
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Papyrus
Aristotle: 3 VPs per science set..
Galzria as the Lighthouse of Alexandria (B)
Coins: 2
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) Produce one raw material. Cost: 2 Brick
(2) Produce one manufactured good. Cost: 2 Wood
(3) 7 VPs. Cost: 3 Stone
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Glass
Bilkis: Once per turn, may pay 1 coin to the bank to generate any one resource.
mith as the Hagia Sophia of Byzantium (B)
Coins: 2
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 3 VPs, diplomacy. Cost: Paper, Glass, Wood, Ore
(2) 4 VPs, diplomacy. Cost: Cloth, Brick, 2 Ore
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Stone
Archimedes: Green cards cost 1 resource less.
eHalcyon as the Pyramids of Gizah (B)
Coins: 4
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: 2 Wood
(2) 5 VPs. Cost: 3 Stone
(3) 5 VPs. Cost: 3 Brick
(4) 7 VPs. Cost: Papyrus, 4 Stone
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Stone
Diocletian: Gain 2 coins for each black card you play.
Watno as the Statue of Zeus at Olympia (A)
Coins: 11
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: 2 Wood
(2) 1 free build per age. Cost: 2 Stone
(3) 7 VPs. Cost: 2 Ore
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Wood
Croseus: Take 6 coins.
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I have 1 strength. Insomn's resource should be gray. Otherwise that looks good, thanks.
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The wrong resource colour wasn't my fault, I just copied that part.
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Fair enough.
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That's right yes. Would it be too much to ask for Insomns hand? I need to know if it's as disastrous as my own.
Whaaat. But my hand is pretty bad for me too. Did Kuildeous purposely deal us all hands that were bad for us? CONSPIRACY.
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That's right yes. Would it be too much to ask for Insomns hand? I need to know if it's as disastrous as my own.
Whaaat. But my hand is pretty bad for me too. Did Kuildeous purposely deal us all hands that were bad for us? CONSPIRACY.
Mine's such crap. :-[
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eHalcyon as the Pyramids of Gizah (B)
Coins: 2
I have $4. My leader cost $2.
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That's right yes. Would it be too much to ask for Insomns hand? I need to know if it's as disastrous as my own.
Sorry, I'll try to make some time to cross-forward messages to each other. I'll keep that in mind for Age II.
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Qvist (Halikarnassos):
Davio (Petra):
Tables (Rhodes):
Insomniac (Ephesos):
Galzria (Alexandria):
mith (Byzantium):
eHalcyon (Giza): DONE
Watno (Olympia): DONE
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Are we passing hands up or down here? (I thought Down, but I'm told it's up... which obviously changes decisions....)
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Left, so up.
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Left, so up.
Blargh. That makes a pair of terrible hands even worse! Where's the good stuff?
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Qvist (Halikarnassos):
Davio (Petra):
Tables (Rhodes):
Insomniac (Ephesos):
Galzria (Alexandria): DONE
mith (Byzantium): DONE
eHalcyon (Giza): DONE
Watno (Olympia): DONE
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Hopefully in Insomn's hand...
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If you have really crappy hands, that means that good cards are probably incoming. If you have one really great hand, that means future hands might be pretty crappy. :P
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Qvist (Halikarnassos):
Davio (Petra):
Tables (Rhodes): DONE
Insomniac (Ephesos): DONE
Galzria (Alexandria): DONE
mith (Byzantium): DONE
eHalcyon (Giza): DONE
Watno (Olympia): DONE
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Hopefully in Insomn's hand...
Hopefully? You don't know? >.>
Wait! Hopefully NOT! We won't see those until the very end, and then only the dregs!
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So I send my hand on to Insomniac (and Tables)?
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Yes please.
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Qvist (Halikarnassos):
Davio (Petra):
Tables (Rhodes): DONE
Insomniac (Ephesos): DONE
Galzria (Alexandria): DONE, SENT
mith (Byzantium): DONE
eHalcyon (Giza): DONE
Watno (Olympia): DONE
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We're done too. I'll send Watno my cards in a sec.
Davio builds Marketplace: Manufactured Goods cost 1 to buy from both sides. Chain to: Caravansery.
Qvist as the Mausoleum of Halikarnassos (A)
Coins: 4
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: 2 Brick
(2) Look through the discard pile and build a card for free. Cost: 3 Ore
(3) 7 VPs. Cost: 2 Cloth
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Cloth
Mine: Produce Ore/Stone
Nero: Gain 2 coins for each victory token you earn.
Davio as the Al-Khazneh of Petra (B)
Coins: 6
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 3 VPs, everyone elses loses 2 coins. Cost: 2 Brick, 2 Ore
(2) 14 VPs. Cost: 14 Coins
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Brick
Marketplace: Manufactured Goods cost 1 to buy from both sides
Xenophon: Gain 2 coins for each yellow card you play.
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Gave myself 2 coins, Qvist. :)
Would you do the honors of forwarding your hand to Watno (and eHalc)?
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Watno builds Stockade: 1 Shield. Cost: Wood.
eHalc builds Timber Yard: Produce Stone/Wood. Cost: 1 Coin. (pays 1 coin to bank)
Also sent eHalc's hand to mith and Galz.
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Gave myself 2 coins, Qvist. :)
Would you do the honors of forwarding your hand to Watno (and eHalc)?
Forgot about that, thanks.
And I forwarded my cards to Watno and eHalcyon.
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Tables plays Forest Cave: Produce Wood/Ore. Cost: 1 Coin. (pay 1 coin)
Insomniac plays Glassworks: Produce Glass.
Sending my hand on now.
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Team MOAR MONIES both play Tavern, for 5 coins.
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I'm calling it now, Tables+Insomn come last by a significant margin. There's... so many things that have gone wrong already, and we've barely started.
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I'm calling it now, Tables+Insomn come last by a significant margin. There's... so many things that have gone wrong already, and we've barely started.
Meh, we didn't have a perfect start either so we'll see!
At last you can't get 7th like the original 7W!
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Qvist (Halikarnassos): DONE
Davio (Petra): DONE
Tables (Rhodes):
Insomniac (Ephesos):
Galzria (Alexandria):
mith (Byzantium):
eHalcyon (Giza):
Watno (Olympia):
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Qvist as the Mausoleum of Halikarnassos (A)
Coins: 4
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: 2 Brick
(2) Look through the discard pile and build a card for free. Cost: 3 Ore
(3) 7 VPs. Cost: 2 Cloth
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Cloth
Mine: Produce Ore/Stone
Nero: Gain 2 coins for each victory token you earn.
Davio as the Al-Khazneh of Petra (B)
Coins: 6
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 3 VPs, everyone elses loses 2 coins. Cost: 2 Brick, 2 Ore
(2) 14 VPs. Cost: 14 Coins
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Brick
Marketplace: Manufactured Goods cost 1 to buy from both sides
Xenophon: Gain 2 coins for each yellow card you play.
Tables as the Colossus of Rhodes (B)
Coins: 3
Debt: 0
Strength: 1
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 1 Shield, 3 VPs, 3 Coins. Cost: 3 Stone
(2) 1 Shield, 4 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: 4 Ore
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Ore
Forest Cave: Produce Wood/Ore. Cost: 1 Coin
Hannibal: 1 Shield.
Insomniac as the Temple of Artemis at Ephesos (B)
Coins: 3
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 2 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: 2 Stone
(2) 3 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: 2 Wood
(3) 5 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: Papyrus, Cloth, Glass
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Papyrus
Glassworks: Produce Glass
Aristotle: 3 VPs per science set
Galzria as the Lighthouse of Alexandria (B)
Coins: 7
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) Produce one raw material. Cost: 2 Brick
(2) Produce one manufactured good. Cost: 2 Wood
(3) 7 VPs. Cost: 3 Stone
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Glass
Tavern: 5 Coins
Bilkis: Once per turn, may pay 1 coin to the bank to generate any one resource.
mith as the Hagia Sophia of Byzantium (B)
Coins: 7
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 3 VPs, diplomacy. Cost: Paper, Glass, Wood, Ore
(2) 4 VPs, diplomacy. Cost: Cloth, Brick, 2 Ore
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Stone
Tavern: 5 Coins
Archimedes: Green cards cost 1 resource less.
eHalcyon as the Pyramids of Gizah (B)
Coins: 3
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: 2 Wood
(2) 5 VPs. Cost: 3 Stone
(3) 5 VPs. Cost: 3 Brick
(4) 7 VPs. Cost: Papyrus, 4 Stone
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Stone
Timber Yard: Produce Stone/Wood
Diocletian: Gain 2 coins for each black card you play.
Watno as the Statue of Zeus at Olympia (A)
Coins: 11
Debt: 0
Strength: 1
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: 2 Wood
(2) 1 free build per age. Cost: 2 Stone
(3) 7 VPs. Cost: 2 Ore
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Wood
Stockade: 1 Shield.
Croseus: Take 6 coins.
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Galzria's Glass should be grey, not brown.
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Galzria's Glass should be grey, not brown.
Fixed, thanks.
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Qvist (Halikarnassos): DONE
Davio (Petra): DONE
Tables (Rhodes):
Insomniac (Ephesos):
Galzria (Alexandria): DONE
mith (Byzantium): DONE
eHalcyon (Giza):
Watno (Olympia):
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Qvist (Halikarnassos): DONE
Davio (Petra): DONE
Tables (Rhodes):
Insomniac (Ephesos):
Galzria (Alexandria): DONE
mith (Byzantium): DONE
eHalcyon (Giza): DONE
Watno (Olympia): DONE
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Tables plays Excavation: Produce Stone/Brick. Cost: 1 Coin.
Insomniac plays Lumber Yard: Produce Wood.
I pay 1 coin. Passing my hand left to Davio
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Mith plays Scriptorium: Tablet. Chain to: Courthouse & Library. Cost: Papyrus., Activating Archimedes.
Galzria plays Barracks: 1 Shield. Cost: Ore, paying 1 Coin to Bilkis.
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eHalcyon builds Clay Pit: Produce Brick/Ore. Cost: 1 Coin. (pays 1 coin to bank).
Watno builds Baths: 3 VPs. Chain to: Aqueduct. Cost: Stone. (pays 2 coins to eHalcyon for Stone)
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Qvist builds: Ore Vein: Produce Ore.
Davio builds: Tree Farm: Produce Wood/Brick. Cost: 1 Coin. (pays 1 coin to bank).
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Qvist builds: Ore Vein: Produce Ore.
Davio builds: Tree Farm: Produce Wood/Brick. Cost: 1 Coin. (pays 1 coin to bank).
Passed Qvist's old hand to eHalc and Watno.
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I updated the second post with current information, please check your coin totals. :)
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eHalc has 4 coins. The 2 I payed him were subtracted from my count, but not added to his.
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I think I should have 2 coins, not 3.
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Fixed
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Quoting for record-keeping purposes. :)
Qvist as the Mausoleum of Halikarnassos (A)
Coins: 4
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: 2 Brick
(2) Look through the discard pile and build a card for free. Cost: 3 Ore
(3) 7 VPs. Cost: 2 Cloth
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Cloth
Mine: Produce Ore/Stone
Ore Vein: Produce Ore
Nero: Gain 2 coins for each victory token you earn.
Davio as the Al-Khazneh of Petra (B)
Coins: 5
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 3 VPs, everyone elses loses 2 coins. Cost: 2 Brick, 2 Ore
(2) 14 VPs. Cost: 14 Coins
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Brick
Tree Farm: Produce Wood/Brick
Marketplace: Manufactured Goods cost 1 to buy from both sides
Xenophon: Gain 2 coins for each yellow card you play.
Tables as the Colossus of Rhodes (B)
Coins: 2
Debt: 0
Strength: 1
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 1 Shield, 3 VPs, 3 Coins. Cost: 3 Stone
(2) 1 Shield, 4 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: 4 Ore
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Ore
Forest Cave: Produce Wood/Ore.
Excavation: Produce Stone/Brick.
Hannibal: 1 Shield.
Insomniac as the Temple of Artemis at Ephesos (B)
Coins: 3
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 2 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: 2 Stone
(2) 3 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: 2 Wood
(3) 5 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: Papyrus, Cloth, Glass
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Papyrus
Glassworks: Produce Glass
Lumber Yard: Produce Wood
Aristotle: 3 VPs per science set
Galzria as the Lighthouse of Alexandria (B)
Coins: 6
Debt: 0
Strength: 1
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) Produce one raw material. Cost: 2 Brick
(2) Produce one manufactured good. Cost: 2 Wood
(3) 7 VPs. Cost: 3 Stone
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Glass
Tavern: 5 Coins
Barracks: 1 Shield.
Bilkis: Once per turn, may pay 1 coin to the bank to generate any one resource.
mith as the Hagia Sophia of Byzantium (B)
Coins: 7
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 3 VPs, diplomacy. Cost: Paper, Glass, Wood, Ore
(2) 4 VPs, diplomacy. Cost: Cloth, Brick, 2 Ore
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Stone
Tavern: 5 Coins
Scriptorium: Tablet. Chain to: Courthouse & Library.
Archimedes: Green cards cost 1 resource less.
eHalcyon as the Pyramids of Gizah (B)
Coins: 4
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: 2 Wood
(2) 5 VPs. Cost: 3 Stone
(3) 5 VPs. Cost: 3 Brick
(4) 7 VPs. Cost: Papyrus, 4 Stone
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Stone
Timber Yard: Produce Stone/Wood
Clay Pit: Produce Brick/Ore.
Diocletian: Gain 2 coins for each black card you play.
Watno as the Statue of Zeus at Olympia (A)
Coins: 9
Debt: 0
Strength: 1
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: 2 Wood
(2) 1 free build per age. Cost: 2 Stone
(3) 7 VPs. Cost: 2 Ore
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Wood
Baths: 3 VPs. Chain to: Aqueduct.
Stockade: 1 Shield.
Croesus: Take 6 coins.
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Qvist (Halikarnassos):
Davio (Petra):
Tables (Rhodes):
Insomniac (Ephesos):
Galzria (Alexandria):
mith (Byzantium):
eHalcyon (Giza): DONE
Watno (Olympia):
Is it just me, or is this game moving much slower than regular 7 Wonders?
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Qvist (Halikarnassos):
Davio (Petra):
Tables (Rhodes):
Insomniac (Ephesos):
Galzria (Alexandria): DONE
mith (Byzantium): DONE
eHalcyon (Giza): DONE
Watno (Olympia):
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Qvist (Halikarnassos):
Davio (Petra):
Tables (Rhodes):
Insomniac (Ephesos):
Galzria (Alexandria):
mith (Byzantium):
eHalcyon (Giza): DONE
Watno (Olympia):
Is it just me, or is this game moving much slower than regular 7 Wonders?
Well, yeah, there's teamwork going on.
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Well, yeah, there's teamwork going on.
But half of us see our hands one turn in advance... would have thought that would help speed up decisions. :P
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Nope, because decisions change sometimes, and in particular two of you need to agree on what to do.
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Qvist (Halikarnassos):
Davio (Petra):
Tables (Rhodes):
Insomniac (Ephesos):
Galzria (Alexandria): DONE
mith (Byzantium): DONE
eHalcyon (Giza): DONE
Watno (Olympia): DONE
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Nope, because decisions change sometimes, and in particular two of you need to agree on what to do.
Fair point. It hasn't really happened to Watno and I yet, although this next one might be tricky.
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We're going to decide today, I think. :)
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Qvist (Halikarnassos): DONE
Davio (Petra): DONE
Tables (Rhodes):
Insomniac (Ephesos):
Galzria (Alexandria): DONE
mith (Byzantium): DONE
eHalcyon (Giza): DONE
Watno (Olympia): DONE
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Insomn, thoughts in the QT?
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What's happening guys? Pretty sure I've seen Ins around...
I'd really like it if we could make one move a day. :-\
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My thoughts are in the QT (and have been since earlyish yesterday), I basically confirmed what he suggested he build, and he confirmed what I build, I normally just like to wait for Tables
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My thoughts are in the QT (and have been since earlyish yesterday), I basically confirmed what he suggested he build, and he confirmed what I build, I normally just like to wait for Tables
If you're both confirmed, then we are good to go? :)
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Tables builds Stone Pit
Insomniac builds Baths
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Tables builds Stone Pit
Insomniac builds Baths
And you pay $2 to Tables, of course.
Watno builds West Trading Post.
eHalcyon builds Militia, paying $3 to the bank and receiving $2 from Diocletian.
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Galzria builds Loom
mith builds Workshop (using Archimedes)
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I sent Galz his new hand. Can we get ours too?
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Sent Qvist and Davio's hand on.
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Qvist (Halikarnassos):
Davio (Petra):
Tables (Rhodes):
Insomniac (Ephesos):
Galzria (Alexandria): DONE
mith (Byzantium): DONE
eHalcyon (Giza):
Watno (Olympia):
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We still need our hand.
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Oops, sent.
Also, we built:
Qvist: Gambling Den: 6 Coins. Each neighbour gets 1 coin. So, Davio and Watno each get a coin.
Davio: East Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the right. Chain to: Forum.
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Someone check this over?
Qvist builds Gambling Den, gaining 6 coin. Davio and Watno gain 1 coin each.
Davio builds East Trading Post, gaining 2 coin from Xenophon.
Tables builds Stone Pit.
Insomniac builds Baths, paying Tables $2.
Galzria builds Loom.
mith builds Workshop (using Archimedes).
eHalcyon builds Militia, paying $3 to the bank and gaining $2 from Diocletian.
Watno builds West Trading Post.
Qvist as the Mausoleum of Halikarnassos (A)
Coins: 10
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: 2 Brick
(2) Look through the discard pile and build a card for free. Cost: 3 Ore
(3) 7 VPs. Cost: 2 Cloth
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Cloth
Mine: Produce Ore/Stone
Ore Vein: Produce Ore
Gambling Den: 6 Coins. Each neighbour gets 1 coin.
Nero: Gain 2 coins for each victory token you earn.
Davio as the Al-Khazneh of Petra (B)
Coins: 8
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 3 VPs, everyone elses loses 2 coins. Cost: 2 Brick, 2 Ore
(2) 14 VPs. Cost: 14 Coins
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Brick
Tree Farm: Produce Wood/Brick
Marketplace: Manufactured Goods cost 1 to buy from both sides
East Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the right. Chain to: Forum.
Xenophon: Gain 2 coins for each yellow card you play.
Tables as the Colossus of Rhodes (B)
Coins: 4
Debt: 0
Strength: 1
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 1 Shield, 3 VPs, 3 Coins. Cost: 3 Stone
(2) 1 Shield, 4 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: 4 Ore
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Ore
Forest Cave: Produce Wood/Ore.
Excavation: Produce Stone/Brick.
Stone Pit: Produce Stone
Hannibal: 1 Shield.
Insomniac as the Temple of Artemis at Ephesos (B)
Coins: 1
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 2 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: 2 Stone
(2) 3 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: 2 Wood
(3) 5 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: Papyrus, Cloth, Glass
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Papyrus
Glassworks: Produce Glass
Lumber Yard: Produce Wood
Baths: 3 VPs. Chain to: Aqueduct.
Aristotle: 3 VPs per science set
Galzria as the Lighthouse of Alexandria (B)
Coins: 6
Debt: 0
Strength: 1
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) Produce one raw material. Cost: 2 Brick
(2) Produce one manufactured good. Cost: 2 Wood
(3) 7 VPs. Cost: 3 Stone
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Glass
Loom: Produce Cloth
Tavern: 5 Coins
Barracks: 1 Shield.
Bilkis: Once per turn, may pay 1 coin to the bank to generate any one resource.
mith as the Hagia Sophia of Byzantium (B)
Coins: 7
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 3 VPs, diplomacy. Cost: Paper, Glass, Wood, Ore
(2) 4 VPs, diplomacy. Cost: Cloth, Brick, 2 Ore
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Stone
Tavern: 5 Coins
Scriptorium: Tablet. Chain to: Courthouse & Library.
Workshop: Gear. Chain to: ARchery Range & Laboratory.
Archimedes: Green cards cost 1 resource less.
eHalcyon as the Pyramids of Gizah (B)
Coins: 3
Debt: 0
Strength: 2
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: 2 Wood
(2) 5 VPs. Cost: 3 Stone
(3) 5 VPs. Cost: 3 Brick
(4) 7 VPs. Cost: Papyrus, 4 Stone
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Stone
Timber Yard: Produce Stone/Wood
Clay Pit: Produce Brick/Ore.
Militia: 2 Shields.
Diocletian: Gain 2 coins for each black card you play.
Watno as the Statue of Zeus at Olympia (A)
Coins: 10
Debt: 0
Strength: 1
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: 2 Wood
(2) 1 free build per age. Cost: 2 Stone
(3) 7 VPs. Cost: 2 Ore
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Wood
West Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the left. Chain to: Forum.
Baths: 3 VPs. Chain to: Aqueduct.
Stockade: 1 Shield.
Croesus: Take 6 coins.
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Davio gets 2 coins from Xenophon.
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Davio gets 2 coins from Xenophon.
Fixed.
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Qvist (Halikarnassos):
Davio (Petra):
Tables (Rhodes):
Insomniac (Ephesos):
Galzria (Alexandria): DONE
mith (Byzantium): DONE
eHalcyon (Giza): DONE
Watno (Olympia): DONE
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Insomn, do you have your next hand yet?
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Insomn, do you have your next hand yet?
Nope.
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I sent Insomniac and Tables their new hand.
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Rules for the new Wonders!
http://rprod.com/uploads/WONDERPACK_RULES_US.pdf
Maybe we can try it for a future game.
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Qvist (Halikarnassos): DONE
Davio (Petra): DONE
Tables (Rhodes):
Insomniac (Ephesos):
Galzria (Alexandria): DONE
mith (Byzantium): DONE
eHalcyon (Giza): DONE
Watno (Olympia): DONE
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Rules for the new Wonders!
http://rprod.com/uploads/WONDERPACK_RULES_US.pdf
Maybe we can try it for a future game.
Sadly, they removed the beer from Manneken Pis B. :'(
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Yeah, I've seen them, already done a bit of commenting on BSG. In short: Mannekin Pis = good. Stonehenge = bad. Abu Simbel = luck dependent (haven't done the calculations, but I suspect generally mediocre). Great Wall = very good.
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Yeah, I've seen them, already done a bit of commenting on BSG. In short: Mannekin Pis = good. Stonehenge = bad. Abu Simbel = luck dependent (haven't done the calculations, but I suspect generally mediocre). Great Wall = very good.
The odd thing about Stonehenge is that it gives bonus points for Stone, yet the last wonder stage requires 3 Wood and no Stone. Why not Stone? It would thematically make more sense as well. Okay, guys, we're building Stonehenge. What do we need? Stone, you might think? Nooo, Wood!
The sad thing is that not building Wonder Stages gives you a big disadvantage. You get less Coins and VP from the Arena and the Builders Guild for example. And the ROI for the stages is usually pretty good so you suffer indirectly from others people good stages if you skip them.
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Tables? QT to confirm?
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Insomn discards for 3 coins.
Tables builds Guard Tower: 1 Shield. Cost: Brick
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mith builds East Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the right. Chain to: Forum.
Galzria builds Guard Tower: 1 Shield. Cost: Brick.
Galzria Pays 1 Coin to Bilkis
Qvist (Halikarnassos):
Davio (Petra):
Tables (Rhodes):
Insomniac (Ephesos):
Galzria (Alexandria): SENT
mith (Byzantium):
eHalcyon (Giza):
Watno (Olympia):
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eHalcyon builds Clay Pool: Produce Brick.
Watno builds Apothecary: Compasses. Chain to: Stables & Dispensary. Cost: Cloth., paying 2 to Qvist.
Next hand sent, awaiting mine.
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I think I sent the next hand on. Uhh might as well send it again.
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Qvist (Halikarnassos):
Davio (Petra):
Tables (Rhodes): SENT
Insomniac (Ephesos): SENT
Galzria (Alexandria): SENT
mith (Byzantium):
eHalcyon (Giza):
Watno (Olympia):
[/quote]
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Qvist builds Clandestine Dock West (pays 1 Coin to the bank)
Davio builds West Trading Post (receiving 2 Coins from the bank through Xenophon)
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Qvist (Halikarnassos): SENT
Davio (Petra): SENT
Tables (Rhodes): SENT
Insomniac (Ephesos): SENT
Galzria (Alexandria): SENT
mith (Byzantium):
eHalcyon (Giza):
Watno (Olympia):
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Qvist as the Mausoleum of Halikarnassos (A)
Coins: 11
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: 2 Brick
(2) Look through the discard pile and build a card for free. Cost: 3 Ore
(3) 7 VPs. Cost: 2 Cloth
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Cloth
Mine: Produce Ore/Stone
Ore Vein: Produce Ore
Gambling Den: 6 Coins. Each neighbour gets 1 coin.
Clandestine Dock West: Once per turn, pay one less coin to buy resources from your left.
Nero: Gain 2 coins for each victory token you earn.
Davio as the Al-Khazneh of Petra (B)
Coins: 10
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 3 VPs, everyone elses loses 2 coins. Cost: 2 Brick, 2 Ore
(2) 14 VPs. Cost: 14 Coins
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Brick
Tree Farm: Produce Wood/Brick
Marketplace: Manufactured Goods cost 1 to buy from both sides
East Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the right. Chain to: Forum.
West Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the left. Chain to: Forum.
Xenophon: Gain 2 coins for each yellow card you play.
Tables as the Colossus of Rhodes (B)
Coins: 4
Debt: 0
Strength: 2
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 1 Shield, 3 VPs, 3 Coins. Cost: 3 Stone
(2) 1 Shield, 4 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: 4 Ore
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Ore
Forest Cave: Produce Wood/Ore.
Excavation: Produce Stone/Brick.
Stone Pit: Produce Stone
Guard Tower: 1 Shield. Cost: Brick.
Hannibal: 1 Shield.
Insomniac as the Temple of Artemis at Ephesos (B)
Coins: 4
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 2 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: 2 Stone
(2) 3 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: 2 Wood
(3) 5 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: Papyrus, Cloth, Glass
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Papyrus
Glassworks: Produce Glass
Lumber Yard: Produce Wood
Baths: 3 VPs. Chain to: Aqueduct.
Aristotle: 3 VPs per science set
Galzria as the Lighthouse of Alexandria (B)
Coins: 5
Debt: 0
Strength: 2
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) Produce one raw material. Cost: 2 Brick
(2) Produce one manufactured good. Cost: 2 Wood
(3) 7 VPs. Cost: 3 Stone
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Glass
Loom: Produce Cloth
Tavern: 5 Coins
Barracks: 1 Shield.
Guard Tower: 1 Shield.
Bilkis: Once per turn, may pay 1 coin to the bank to generate any one resource.
mith as the Hagia Sophia of Byzantium (B)
Coins: 7
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 3 VPs, diplomacy. Cost: Paper, Glass, Wood, Ore
(2) 4 VPs, diplomacy. Cost: Cloth, Brick, 2 Ore
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Stone
Tavern: 5 Coins
East Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the right. Chain to: Forum.
Scriptorium: Tablet. Chain to: Courthouse & Library.
Workshop: Gear. Chain to: ARchery Range & Laboratory.
Archimedes: Green cards cost 1 resource less.
eHalcyon as the Pyramids of Gizah (B)
Coins: 3
Debt: 0
Strength: 2
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: 2 Wood
(2) 5 VPs. Cost: 3 Stone
(3) 5 VPs. Cost: 3 Brick
(4) 7 VPs. Cost: Papyrus, 4 Stone
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Stone
Timber Yard: Produce Stone/Wood
Clay Pit: Produce Brick/Ore.
Clay Pool: Produce Brick.
Militia: 2 Shields.
Diocletian: Gain 2 coins for each black card you play.
Watno as the Statue of Zeus at Olympia (A)
Coins: 8
Debt: 0
Strength: 1
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: 2 Wood
(2) 1 free build per age. Cost: 2 Stone
(3) 7 VPs. Cost: 2 Ore
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Wood
West Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the left. Chain to: Forum.
Baths: 3 VPs. Chain to: Aqueduct.
Apothecary: Compasses. Chain to: Stables & Dispensary. Cost: Cloth.
Stockade: 1 Shield.
Croesus: Take 6 coins.
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Please check for correctness.
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Qvist (Halikarnassos):
Davio (Petra):
Tables (Rhodes):
Insomniac (Ephesos):
Galzria (Alexandria): DONE
mith (Byzantium): DONE
eHalcyon (Giza):
Watno (Olympia):
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...is everyone stalled?
Watno, have you been to our QT recently? :P
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Insommm!
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Qvist (Halikarnassos):
Davio (Petra):
Tables (Rhodes):
Insomniac (Ephesos):
Galzria (Alexandria): DONE
mith (Byzantium): DONE
eHalcyon (Giza): DONE
Watno (Olympia): DONE
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Qvist (Halikarnassos):
Davio (Petra):
Tables (Rhodes): DONE
Insomniac (Ephesos): DONE
Galzria (Alexandria): DONE
mith (Byzantium): DONE
eHalcyon (Giza): DONE
Watno (Olympia): DONE
Wow, we're not last for once :P.
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Qvist builds the Altar 2 VPs. Chain to: Temple.
Davio builds the Stone Pit: Produce Stone.
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Tables builds Secret Warehouse: Produce any one resource that you already produce.. Cost: 2 Coins.
Insomniac builds Tavern: 5 Coins.
Passing final cards on to Davio/Qvist now.
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eHalcyon builds Glassworks: Produce Glass.
Watno builds Wonder, paying 1 to eHalcyon for Wood.
Hand sent.
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Galzria pays Bilkis 1 Coin, building: Scriptorium: Tablet. Chain to: Courthouse & Library. Cost: Papyrus.[/b]
Mith pays eHal 1 Coin (West Trading Post) for Ore, and 1 Coin to the bank, building: Pigeon Loft: Copy a science symbol on a green card on your left or right. Cost: 1 Coin, Ore.
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Hand sent.
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Qvist as the Mausoleum of Halikarnassos (A)
Coins: 11
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: 2 Brick
(2) Look through the discard pile and build a card for free. Cost: 3 Ore
(3) 7 VPs. Cost: 2 Cloth
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Cloth
Mine: Produce Ore/Stone
Ore Vein: Produce Ore
Gambling Den: 6 Coins. Each neighbour gets 1 coin.
Clandestine Dock West: Once per turn, pay one less coin to buy resources from your left.
Altar: 2 VPs. Chain to: Temple.
Nero: Gain 2 coins for each victory token you earn.
Davio as the Al-Khazneh of Petra (B)
Coins: 10
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 3 VPs, everyone elses loses 2 coins. Cost: 2 Brick, 2 Ore
(2) 14 VPs. Cost: 14 Coins
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Brick
Tree Farm: Produce Wood/Brick
Stone Pit: Produce Stone.
Marketplace: Manufactured Goods cost 1 to buy from both sides
East Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the right. Chain to: Forum.
West Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the left. Chain to: Forum.
Xenophon: Gain 2 coins for each yellow card you play.
Tables as the Colossus of Rhodes (B)
Coins: 2
Debt: 0
Strength: 2
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 1 Shield, 3 VPs, 3 Coins. Cost: 3 Stone
(2) 1 Shield, 4 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: 4 Ore
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Ore
Forest Cave: Produce Wood/Ore.
Excavation: Produce Stone/Brick.
Stone Pit: Produce Stone
Secret Warehouse: Produce any one resource that you already produce.
Guard Tower: 1 Shield. Cost: Brick.
Hannibal: 1 Shield.
Insomniac as the Temple of Artemis at Ephesos (B)
Coins: 9
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 2 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: 2 Stone
(2) 3 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: 2 Wood
(3) 5 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: Papyrus, Cloth, Glass
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Papyrus
Glassworks: Produce Glass
Lumber Yard: Produce Wood
Tavern: 5 Coins.
Baths: 3 VPs. Chain to: Aqueduct.
Aristotle: 3 VPs per science set
Galzria as the Lighthouse of Alexandria (B)
Coins: 4
Debt: 0
Strength: 2
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) Produce one raw material. Cost: 2 Brick
(2) Produce one manufactured good. Cost: 2 Wood
(3) 7 VPs. Cost: 3 Stone
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Glass
Loom: Produce Cloth
Tavern: 5 Coins
Scriptorium: Tablet. Chain to: Courthouse & Library.
Barracks: 1 Shield.
Guard Tower: 1 Shield.
Bilkis: Once per turn, may pay 1 coin to the bank to generate any one resource.
mith as the Hagia Sophia of Byzantium (B)
Coins: 5
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 3 VPs, diplomacy. Cost: Paper, Glass, Wood, Ore
(2) 4 VPs, diplomacy. Cost: Cloth, Brick, 2 Ore
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Stone
Tavern: 5 Coins
East Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the right. Chain to: Forum.
Scriptorium: Tablet. Chain to: Courthouse & Library.
Workshop: Gear. Chain to: ARchery Range & Laboratory.
Pigeon Loft: Copy a science symbol on a green card on your left or right.
Archimedes: Green cards cost 1 resource less.
eHalcyon as the Pyramids of Gizah (B)
Coins: 5
Debt: 0
Strength: 2
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: 2 Wood
(2) 5 VPs. Cost: 3 Stone
(3) 5 VPs. Cost: 3 Brick
(4) 7 VPs. Cost: Papyrus, 4 Stone
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Stone
Timber Yard: Produce Stone/Wood
Clay Pit: Produce Brick/Ore.
Clay Pool: Produce Brick.
Glassworks: Produce Glass.
Militia: 2 Shields.
Diocletian: Gain 2 coins for each black card you play.
Watno as the Statue of Zeus at Olympia (A)
Coins: 7
Debt: 0
Strength: 1
Wonder stages built: 1
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: 2 Wood
(2) 1 free build per age. Cost: 2 Stone
(3) 7 VPs. Cost: 2 Ore
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Wood
West Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the left. Chain to: Forum.
Baths: 3 VPs. Chain to: Aqueduct.
Apothecary: Compasses. Chain to: Stables & Dispensary. Cost: Cloth.
Stockade: 1 Shield.
Croesus: Take 6 coins.
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please check for mistakes.
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Qvist (Halikarnassos):
Davio (Petra):
Tables (Rhodes):
Insomniac (Ephesos):
Galzria (Alexandria):
mith (Byzantium):
eHalcyon (Giza): DONE
Watno (Olympia): DONE
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Qvist (Halikarnassos):
Davio (Petra):
Tables (Rhodes):
Insomniac (Ephesos):
Galzria (Alexandria): DONE
mith (Byzantium): DONE
eHalcyon (Giza): DONE
Watno (Olympia): DONE
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Qvist (Halikarnassos): DONE
Davio (Petra): DONE
Tables (Rhodes):
Insomniac (Ephesos):
Galzria (Alexandria): DONE
mith (Byzantium): DONE
eHalcyon (Giza): DONE
Watno (Olympia): DONE
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Tables?
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Yep. Tables builds Wonder stage 1, gets 3 coins
Insomn builds Wonder stage 2, pays Tables 4 coins, gets 4 coins
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Tables means I build wonder stage 1
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eHalcyon builds Loom.
Watno builds Press.
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Yes, yes I do. Although I have no objections to you building stage 2.
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Galzria discards for 3 coins
mith builds Clay Pool
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So we're just waiting to see what Qvist and Davio do, and then we can calculate military and choose next leaders, yes? And then get Kuild to deal us age II hands.
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Davio: Clandestine Dock East: Once per turn, pay one less coin to buy resources from your right. Cost: 1 Coin.
Me: Stockade: 1 Shield. Cost: Wood. I pay Davio 2 coins
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I can't believe you guys got both of those, oh man. :P
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Yep. Tables builds Wonder stage 1, gets 3 coins
Insomn builds Wonder stage 2, pays Tables 4 coins, gets 4 coins
How does Tables get his 3rd Stone?
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Yep. Tables builds Wonder stage 1, gets 3 coins
Insomn builds Wonder stage 2, pays Tables 4 coins, gets 4 coins
How does Tables get his 3rd Stone?
I did the same crazy things you did in 7W2. Excavation, Stone Pit, Black Market = 3 stone.
Were you looking at the wrong update (Black Market was my most recent play)?
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Yep. Tables builds Wonder stage 1, gets 3 coins
Insomn builds Wonder stage 2, pays Tables 4 coins, gets 4 coins
How does Tables get his 3rd Stone?
I did the same crazy things you did in 7W2. Excavation, Stone Pit, Black Market = 3 stone.
Were you looking at the wrong update (Black Market was my most recent play)?
NM, I read it wrong.
I thought you had BM, but it was in fact SW.
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Oh, oops. Yes, Secret Warehouse not Black Market is what I meant...
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Qvist as the Mausoleum of Halikarnassos (A)
Coins: 9
Debt: 0
Strength: 1
Military Tokens: -none-, Total: 0 VP
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: 2 Brick
(2) Look through the discard pile and build a card for free. Cost: 3 Ore
(3) 7 VPs. Cost: 2 Cloth
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Cloth
Mine: Produce Ore/Stone
Ore Vein: Produce Ore
Gambling Den: 6 Coins. Each neighbour gets 1 coin.
Clandestine Dock West: Once per turn, pay one less coin to buy resources from your left.
Altar: 2 VPs. Chain to: Temple.
Stockade: 1 Shield.
Nero: Gain 2 coins for each victory token you earn.
Davio as the Al-Khazneh of Petra (B)
Coins: 11
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Military Tokens: 2x -1, Total: -2 VP
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 3 VPs, everyone elses loses 2 coins. Cost: 2 Brick, 2 Ore
(2) 14 VPs. Cost: 14 Coins
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Brick
Tree Farm: Produce Wood/Brick
Stone Pit: Produce Stone.
Marketplace: Manufactured Goods cost 1 to buy from both sides
East Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the right. Chain to: Forum.
West Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the left. Chain to: Forum.
Clandestine Dock East: Once per turn, pay one less coin to buy resources from your right.
Xenophon: Gain 2 coins for each yellow card you play.
Tables as the Colossus of Rhodes (B)
Coins: 6
Debt: 0
Strength: 3
Military Tokens: 2x +1, Total: 2 VP
Wonder stages built: 1
(1) 1 Shield, 3 VPs, 3 Coins. Cost: 3 Stone
(2) 1 Shield, 4 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: 4 Ore
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Ore
Forest Cave: Produce Wood/Ore.
Excavation: Produce Stone/Brick.
Stone Pit: Produce Stone
Secret Warehouse: Produce any one resource that you already produce.
Guard Tower: 1 Shield. Cost: Brick.
Hannibal: 1 Shield.
Insomniac as the Temple of Artemis at Ephesos (B)
Coins: 9
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Military Tokens: 2x -1, Total: -2 VP
Wonder stages built: 1
(1) 2 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: 2 Stone
(2) 3 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: 2 Wood
(3) 5 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: Papyrus, Cloth, Glass
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Papyrus
Glassworks: Produce Glass
Lumber Yard: Produce Wood
Tavern: 5 Coins.
Baths: 3 VPs. Chain to: Aqueduct.
Aristotle: 3 VPs per science set
Galzria as the Lighthouse of Alexandria (B)
Coins: 7
Debt: 0
Strength: 2
Military Tokens: 2x +1, Total: 2 VP
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) Produce one raw material. Cost: 2 Brick
(2) Produce one manufactured good. Cost: 2 Wood
(3) 7 VPs. Cost: 3 Stone
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Glass
Loom: Produce Cloth
Tavern: 5 Coins
Scriptorium: Tablet. Chain to: Courthouse & Library.
Barracks: 1 Shield.
Guard Tower: 1 Shield.
Bilkis: Once per turn, may pay 1 coin to the bank to generate any one resource.
mith as the Hagia Sophia of Byzantium (B)
Coins: 5
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Military Tokens: 2x -1, Total: -2 VP
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 3 VPs, diplomacy. Cost: Paper, Glass, Wood, Ore
(2) 4 VPs, diplomacy. Cost: Cloth, Brick, 2 Ore
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Stone
Clay Pool: Produce Brick
Tavern: 5 Coins
East Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the right. Chain to: Forum.
Scriptorium: Tablet. Chain to: Courthouse & Library.
Workshop: Gear. Chain to: ARchery Range & Laboratory.
Pigeon Loft: Copy a science symbol on a green card on your left or right.
Archimedes: Green cards cost 1 resource less.
eHalcyon as the Pyramids of Gizah (B)
Coins: 5
Debt: 0
Strength: 2
Military Tokens: 2x +1, Total: 2 VP
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: 2 Wood
(2) 5 VPs. Cost: 3 Stone
(3) 5 VPs. Cost: 3 Brick
(4) 7 VPs. Cost: Papyrus, 4 Stone
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Stone
Timber Yard: Produce Stone/Wood
Clay Pit: Produce Brick/Ore.
Clay Pool: Produce Brick.
Glassworks: Produce Glass.
Loom: Produce Cloth.
Militia: 2 Shields.
Diocletian: Gain 2 coins for each black card you play.
Watno as the Statue of Zeus at Olympia (A)
Coins: 7
Debt: 0
Strength: 1
Military Tokens: -none-, Total: 0 VP
Wonder stages built: 1
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: 2 Wood
(2) 1 free build per age. Cost: 2 Stone
(3) 7 VPs. Cost: 2 Ore
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Wood
Press: Produce Papyrus.
West Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the left. Chain to: Forum.
Baths: 3 VPs. Chain to: Aqueduct.
Apothecary: Compasses. Chain to: Stables & Dispensary. Cost: Cloth.
Stockade: 1 Shield.
Croesus: Take 6 coins.
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Please check for correctness, remember you fight one neighbor (not your teammate) twice. When you play Diplomacy you only resolve one fight.
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Really glad Insomn built every science cards that he was able to (no joke).
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Doesn't get Watno -1 VP (for losing against eHalcyon) and I get +1 VP (for beating you) ?
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Doesn't get Watno -1 VP (for losing against eHalcyon) and I get +1 VP (for beating you) ?
That's not how it works in the team variant. You don't fight your partner. Instead, you fight your other neighbour twice. Also, Diplomacy only cancels out one of those two battles. For example, if mith had build his wonder stage, then he would get -1 instead of -2 and I would get +1 instead of +2 this age.
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Two things:
First, wero mentioned in the "Ask Questions" thread that he would be interested in playing 7 Wonders. Would anyone like to host? Maybe we could try out the new Wonder pack too.
Second, speaking of the Wonder pack, I consider the latest SMBC an unintended metaphor...
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Qvist (Halikarnassos): DONE
Davio (Petra): DONE
Tables (Rhodes):
Insomniac (Ephesos):
Galzria (Alexandria):
mith (Byzantium):
eHalcyon (Giza):
Watno (Olympia):
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What's happening here? ehAlc, confirm in qt?
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Qvist (Halikarnassos): DONE
Davio (Petra): DONE
Tables (Rhodes):
Insomniac (Ephesos):
Galzria (Alexandria):
mith (Byzantium):
eHalcyon (Giza): DONE
Watno (Olympia): DONE
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Tables?
Insomiac?
Galzria?
mith?
Tables?
Insomiac?
Galzria?
mith?
Tables?
Insomiac?
Galzria?
mith?
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I'm waiting for confirmation from mith in our QT on his choice. He had one thought, I had another, but no decision has been made.
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Qvist (Halikarnassos): DONE
Davio (Petra): DONE
Tables (Rhodes):
Insomniac (Ephesos):
Galzria (Alexandria): DONE
mith (Byzantium): DONE
eHalcyon (Giza): DONE
Watno (Olympia): DONE
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QT, Insomniac?
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bump
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Yeah, Insomn, wanna confirm and post here?
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Qvist (Halikarnassos): DONE
Davio (Petra): DONE
Tables (Rhodes): DONE
Insomniac (Ephesos): DONE
Galzria (Alexandria): DONE
mith (Byzantium): DONE
eHalcyon (Giza): DONE
Watno (Olympia): DONE
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Insomniac Plays Euclid
Tables plays Zenobia
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Watno play Vitruvius
eHalcyon builds wonder, paying 2 to Watno
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bump
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Qvist plays Cleopatra: 5 VPs. Cost: 4 Coins
Davio plays Phidias: 1 VP per brown card.. Cost: 3 Coins.
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mith plays Varro: 1 VP per yellow card. Cost: 3 Coins.
Galzria plays Caligua: Once per age, build a black card for free.. Cost: 3 Coins.
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Galzria plays Caligua: Once per age, build a black card for free.. Cost: 3 Coins.
Boooooo.
Is that everyone? Can we get Kuild to send us Age 2 cards now?
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Yes
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Qvist as the Mausoleum of Halikarnassos (A)
Coins: 5
Debt: 0
Strength: 1
Military Tokens: -none-, Total: 0 VP
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: 2 Brick
(2) Look through the discard pile and build a card for free. Cost: 3 Ore
(3) 7 VPs. Cost: 2 Cloth
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Cloth
Mine: Produce Ore/Stone
Ore Vein: Produce Ore
Gambling Den: 6 Coins. Each neighbour gets 1 coin.
Clandestine Dock West: Once per turn, pay one less coin to buy resources from your left.
Altar: 2 VPs. Chain to: Temple.
Stockade: 1 Shield.
Nero: Gain 2 coins for each victory token you earn.
Cleopatra: 5 VPs.
Davio as the Al-Khazneh of Petra (B)
Coins: 8
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Military Tokens: 2x -1, Total: -2 VP
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 3 VPs, everyone elses loses 2 coins. Cost: 2 Brick, 2 Ore
(2) 14 VPs. Cost: 14 Coins
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Brick
Tree Farm: Produce Wood/Brick
Stone Pit: Produce Stone.
Marketplace: Manufactured Goods cost 1 to buy from both sides
East Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the right. Chain to: Forum.
West Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the left. Chain to: Forum.
Clandestine Dock East: Once per turn, pay one less coin to buy resources from your right.
Xenophon: Gain 2 coins for each yellow card you play.
Phidias: 1 VP per brown card.
Tables as the Colossus of Rhodes (B)
Coins: 4
Debt: 0
Strength: 3
Military Tokens: 2x +1, Total: 2 VP
Wonder stages built: 1
(1) 1 Shield, 3 VPs, 3 Coins. Cost: 3 Stone
(2) 1 Shield, 4 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: 4 Ore
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Ore
Forest Cave: Produce Wood/Ore.
Excavation: Produce Stone/Brick.
Stone Pit: Produce Stone
Secret Warehouse: Produce any one resource that you already produce.
Guard Tower: 1 Shield. Cost: Brick.
Hannibal: 1 Shield.
Zenobia: 3 VPs.
Insomniac as the Temple of Artemis at Ephesos (B)
Coins: 4
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Military Tokens: 2x -1, Total: -2 VP
Wonder stages built: 1
(1) 2 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: 2 Stone
(2) 3 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: 2 Wood
(3) 5 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: Papyrus, Cloth, Glass
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Papyrus
Glassworks: Produce Glass
Lumber Yard: Produce Wood
Tavern: 5 Coins.
Baths: 3 VPs. Chain to: Aqueduct.
Aristotle: 3 VPs per science set.
Euclid: Compass.
Galzria as the Lighthouse of Alexandria (B)
Coins: 4
Debt: 0
Strength: 2
Military Tokens: 2x +1, Total: 2 VP
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) Produce one raw material. Cost: 2 Brick
(2) Produce one manufactured good. Cost: 2 Wood
(3) 7 VPs. Cost: 3 Stone
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Glass
Loom: Produce Cloth
Tavern: 5 Coins
Scriptorium: Tablet. Chain to: Courthouse & Library.
Barracks: 1 Shield.
Guard Tower: 1 Shield.
Bilkis: Once per turn, may pay 1 coin to the bank to generate any one resource.
Caligula: Once per age, build a black card for free.
mith as the Hagia Sophia of Byzantium (B)
Coins: 2
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Military Tokens: 2x -1, Total: -2 VP
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 3 VPs, diplomacy. Cost: Paper, Glass, Wood, Ore
(2) 4 VPs, diplomacy. Cost: Cloth, Brick, 2 Ore
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Stone
Clay Pool: Produce Brick
Tavern: 5 Coins
East Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the right. Chain to: Forum.
Scriptorium: Tablet. Chain to: Courthouse & Library.
Workshop: Gear. Chain to: ARchery Range & Laboratory.
Pigeon Loft: Copy a science symbol on a green card on your left or right.
Archimedes: Green cards cost 1 resource less.
Varro: 1 VP per yellow card.
eHalcyon as the Pyramids of Gizah (B)
Coins: 3
Debt: 0
Strength: 2
Military Tokens: 2x +1, Total: 2 VP
Wonder stages built: 1
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: 2 Wood
(2) 5 VPs. Cost: 3 Stone
(3) 5 VPs. Cost: 3 Brick
(4) 7 VPs. Cost: Papyrus, 4 Stone
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Stone
Timber Yard: Produce Stone/Wood
Clay Pit: Produce Brick/Ore.
Clay Pool: Produce Brick.
Glassworks: Produce Glass.
Loom: Produce Cloth.
Militia: 2 Shields.
Diocletian: Gain 2 coins for each black card you play.
Watno as the Statue of Zeus at Olympia (A)
Coins: 8
Debt: 0
Strength: 1
Military Tokens: -none-, Total: 0 VP
Wonder stages built: 1
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: 2 Wood
(2) 1 free build per age. Cost: 2 Stone
(3) 7 VPs. Cost: 2 Ore
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Wood
Press: Produce Papyrus.
West Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the left. Chain to: Forum.
Baths: 3 VPs. Chain to: Aqueduct.
Apothecary: Compasses. Chain to: Stables & Dispensary. Cost: Cloth.
Stockade: 1 Shield.
Croesus: Take 6 coins.
Vitruvius: Gain 2 coins each time you build a card through chaining.
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Please check for mistakes guys. I'm sending Kuild a PM now to randomize and send out Age II cards.
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Everyone should have their Age II cards. I also included your teammate's cards so you can plan more quickly. I haven't been following the game, so if I'm off on the teammates, let me know, and I'll draw up new hands, but I went off the list assuming that each pair was a team.
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Everyone should have their Age II cards. I also included your teammate's cards so you can plan more quickly. I haven't been following the game, so if I'm off on the teammates, let me know, and I'll draw up new hands, but I went off the list assuming that each pair was a team.
Big thanks. Finally it continues.
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Reminder to everyone that you pass right this age.
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Everyone should have their Age II cards. I also included your teammate's cards so you can plan more quickly. I haven't been following the game, so if I'm off on the teammates, let me know, and I'll draw up new hands, but I went off the list assuming that each pair was a team.
Thanks for sending them, Kuild.
If anyone is wondering where all the good cards have gone, don't worry, we have them. ;D
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Qvist (Halikarnassos):
Davio (Petra):
Tables (Rhodes):
Insomniac (Ephesos):
Galzria (Alexandria):
mith (Byzantium):
eHalcyon (Giza): DONE
Watno (Olympia): DONE
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Qvist (Halikarnassos):
Davio (Petra):
Tables (Rhodes): DONE
Insomniac (Ephesos): DONE
Galzria (Alexandria):
mith (Byzantium):
eHalcyon (Giza): DONE
Watno (Olympia): DONE
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Qvist (Halikarnassos):
Davio (Petra):
Tables (Rhodes): DONE
Insomniac (Ephesos): DONE
Galzria (Alexandria): DONE
mith (Byzantium): DONE
eHalcyon (Giza): DONE
Watno (Olympia): DONE
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Davio, just give your confirmation on your play. Then we're ready.
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Davio, just give your confirmation on your play. Then we're ready.
Confirmed, I'm on phone so if you can update here that would be great.
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We're both playing Caravansery: Produce Brick/Stone/Ore/Wood. Chain from: Marketplace. Chain to: Lighthouse. Cost: 2 Wood.
I pay Watno and Davio for Wood and I pay 2 coins to Davio and 1 coin to Watno because of my Dock.
Davio's one is free because of the dock and the Trading Post. He also gets 2 coins from his leader.
Edit: Corrected an error.
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I build: Gambling House: 9 Coins. Each neighbour gets 2 coins.. Cost: 1 Coin.
I get 8 coins (net), Insomniac gets 2 coins, and Davio gets 2 coins.
Insomniac builds: School: Tablet. Chain to: Academy & Study. Cost: Wood, Papyrus., which he has the resources for.
Qvist, hand plz?
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Qvist, hand plz?
Already sent.
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eHalcyon builds Caravansery, paying $2 to Watno for wood.
Watno builds Laboratory, paying $2 to eHalcyon for 2 brick.
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Galzria builds Mercenaries for free (Caligula), gaining 3 Shields.
Mith builds Library, chaining from Scriptorium
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Qvist as the Mausoleum of Halikarnassos (A)
Coins: 2
Debt: 0
Strength: 1
Military Tokens: -none-, Total: 0 VP
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: 2 Brick
(2) Look through the discard pile and build a card for free. Cost: 3 Ore
(3) 7 VPs. Cost: 2 Cloth
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Cloth
Mine: Produce Ore/Stone
Ore Vein: Produce Ore
Caravansery: Produce Brick/Stone/Ore/Wood. Chain from: Marketplace. Chain to: Lighthouse.
Gambling Den: 6 Coins. Each neighbour gets 1 coin.
Clandestine Dock West: Once per turn, pay one less coin to buy resources from your left.
Altar: 2 VPs. Chain to: Temple.
Stockade: 1 Shield.
Nero: Gain 2 coins for each victory token you earn.
Cleopatra: 5 VPs.
Davio as the Al-Khazneh of Petra (B)
Coins: 14
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Military Tokens: 2x -1, Total: -2 VP
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 3 VPs, everyone elses loses 2 coins. Cost: 2 Brick, 2 Ore
(2) 14 VPs. Cost: 14 Coins
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Brick
Tree Farm: Produce Wood/Brick
Stone Pit: Produce Stone.
Marketplace: Manufactured Goods cost 1 to buy from both sides
East Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the right. Chain to: Forum.
West Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the left. Chain to: Forum.
Caravansery: Produce Brick/Stone/Ore/Wood. Chain from: Marketplace. Chain to: Lighthouse.
Clandestine Dock East: Once per turn, pay one less coin to buy resources from your right.
Xenophon: Gain 2 coins for each yellow card you play.
Phidias: 1 VP per brown card.
Tables as the Colossus of Rhodes (B)
Coins: 12
Debt: 0
Strength: 3
Military Tokens: 2x +1, Total: 2 VP
Wonder stages built: 1
(1) 1 Shield, 3 VPs, 3 Coins. Cost: 3 Stone
(2) 1 Shield, 4 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: 4 Ore
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Ore
Forest Cave: Produce Wood/Ore.
Excavation: Produce Stone/Brick.
Stone Pit: Produce Stone
Secret Warehouse: Produce any one resource that you already produce.
Gambling House: 9 Coins. Each neighbour gets 2 coins.
Guard Tower: 1 Shield. Cost: Brick.
Hannibal: 1 Shield.
Zenobia: 3 VPs.
Insomniac as the Temple of Artemis at Ephesos (B)
Coins: 6
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Military Tokens: 2x -1, Total: -2 VP
Wonder stages built: 1
(1) 2 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: 2 Stone
(2) 3 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: 2 Wood
(3) 5 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: Papyrus, Cloth, Glass
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Papyrus
Glassworks: Produce Glass
Lumber Yard: Produce Wood
Tavern: 5 Coins.
Baths: 3 VPs. Chain to: Aqueduct.
School: Tablet. Chain to: Academy & Study.
Aristotle: 3 VPs per science set.
Euclid: Compass.
Galzria as the Lighthouse of Alexandria (B)
Coins: 4
Debt: 0
Strength: 5
Military Tokens: 2x +1, Total: 2 VP
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) Produce one raw material. Cost: 2 Brick
(2) Produce one manufactured good. Cost: 2 Wood
(3) 7 VPs. Cost: 3 Stone
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Glass
Loom: Produce Cloth
Tavern: 5 Coins
Scriptorium: Tablet. Chain to: Courthouse & Library.
Barracks: 1 Shield.
Guard Tower: 1 Shield.
Mercenaries: 3 Shields
Bilkis: Once per turn, may pay 1 coin to the bank to generate any one resource.
Caligula: Once per age, build a black card for free.
mith as the Hagia Sophia of Byzantium (B)
Coins: 2
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Military Tokens: 2x -1, Total: -2 VP
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 3 VPs, diplomacy. Cost: Paper, Glass, Wood, Ore
(2) 4 VPs, diplomacy. Cost: Cloth, Brick, 2 Ore
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Stone
Clay Pool: Produce Brick
Tavern: 5 Coins
East Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the right. Chain to: Forum.
Scriptorium: Tablet. Chain to: Courthouse & Library.
Workshop: Gear. Chain to: Archery Range & Laboratory.
Library: Tablet. Chain from: Scriptorium. Chain to: Senate & University.
Pigeon Loft: Copy a science symbol on a green card on your left or right.
Archimedes: Green cards cost 1 resource less.
Varro: 1 VP per yellow card.
eHalcyon as the Pyramids of Gizah (B)
Coins: 3
Debt: 0
Strength: 2
Military Tokens: 2x +1, Total: 2 VP
Wonder stages built: 1
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: 2 Wood
(2) 5 VPs. Cost: 3 Stone
(3) 5 VPs. Cost: 3 Brick
(4) 7 VPs. Cost: Papyrus, 4 Stone
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Stone
Timber Yard: Produce Stone/Wood
Clay Pit: Produce Brick/Ore.
Clay Pool: Produce Brick.
Glassworks: Produce Glass.
Loom: Produce Cloth.
Caravansery: Produce Brick/Stone/Ore/Wood. Chain from: Marketplace. Chain to: Lighthouse.
Militia: 2 Shields.
Diocletian: Gain 2 coins for each black card you play.
Watno as the Statue of Zeus at Olympia (A)
Coins: 9
Debt: 0
Strength: 1
Military Tokens: -none-, Total: 0 VP
Wonder stages built: 1
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: 2 Wood
(2) 1 free build per age. Cost: 2 Stone
(3) 7 VPs. Cost: 2 Ore
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Wood
Press: Produce Papyrus.
West Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the left. Chain to: Forum.
Baths: 3 VPs. Chain to: Aqueduct.
Apothecary: Compasses. Chain to: Stables & Dispensary.
Laboratory: Gear. Chain from: Workshop. Chain to: Siege Workshop & Observatory.
Stockade: 1 Shield.
Croesus: Take 6 coins.
Vitruvius: Gain 2 coins each time you build a card through chaining.
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Please check for mistakes.
I'll forward Watno's hand to Qvist and Davio. Galz/mith, forward my new hand to me and Watno please!
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Sent. Tables/Insomniac, please send Galzria's next hand along.
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Doing now.
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Bump.
Watno and I are slowly discussing. Hope you guys are too. :P
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Qvist (Halikarnassos):
Davio (Petra):
Tables (Rhodes):
Insomniac (Ephesos):
Galzria (Alexandria):
mith (Byzantium):
eHalcyon (Giza): DONE
Watno (Olympia): DONE
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Qvist (Halikarnassos):
Davio (Petra):
Tables (Rhodes):
Insomniac (Ephesos):
Galzria (Alexandria): DONE
mith (Byzantium): DONE
eHalcyon (Giza): DONE
Watno (Olympia): DONE
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Insomn?
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Qvist (Halikarnassos): DONE
Davio (Petra): DONE
Tables (Rhodes):
Insomniac (Ephesos):
Galzria (Alexandria): DONE
mith (Byzantium): DONE
eHalcyon (Giza): DONE
Watno (Olympia): DONE
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Bump?
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Tables builds Statue: 4 VPs. Chain from: Theater. Chain to: Gardens. Cost: Wood, 2 Ore.
Insomniac builds Dispensary: Compasses. Chain from: Apothecary. Chain to: Arena & Lodge. Cost: 2 Ore, Glass.
I can't remember if we needed to pay for these, but if Ins does he pays me.
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Galzria discards, building Wonder: Paying 1 Coin to Bilkis for Brick, and 2 Coin to mith for Brick
mith builds School: Tablet. Chain to: Academy & Study. Cost: Wood, Papyrus.: Producing Papyrus for free with Archimedes, and paying 1 Coin to eHalcyon for Wood.
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Watno builds Temple: 3 VPs. Chain from: Altar. Chain to: Pantheon. Cost: Wood, Brick, Glass, paying eHalcyon $3 for Brick and Glass.
eHalcyon builds Archery Range: 2 Shields. Chain from: Workshop. Cost: 2 Wood, Ore.
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So we just need Davio and Qvist to check in. Let's pass hands?
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Qvist builds wonder and pays Davio 2 Coins for Brick
Davio builds Forum - Produce Cloth/Glass/Paper (chained) and gets 2 Coins from Xenophon
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So we all lose coins now?
Edit: wait, nevermind. Qvist built it, not you.
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Hand sent to Qvist and Davio. Galz/mith, can we get ours?
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Qvist as the Mausoleum of Halikarnassos (A)
Coins: 0
Debt: 0
Strength: 1
Military Tokens: -none-, Total: 0 VP
Wonder stages built: 1
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: 2 Brick
(2) Look through the discard pile and build a card for free. Cost: 3 Ore
(3) 7 VPs. Cost: 2 Cloth
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Cloth
Mine: Produce Ore/Stone
Ore Vein: Produce Ore
Caravansery: Produce Brick/Stone/Ore/Wood. Chain from: Marketplace. Chain to: Lighthouse.
Gambling Den: 6 Coins. Each neighbour gets 1 coin.
Clandestine Dock West: Once per turn, pay one less coin to buy resources from your left.
Altar: 2 VPs. Chain to: Temple.
Stockade: 1 Shield.
Nero: Gain 2 coins for each victory token you earn.
Cleopatra: 5 VPs.
Davio as the Al-Khazneh of Petra (B)
Coins: 18
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Military Tokens: 2x -1, Total: -2 VP
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 3 VPs, everyone elses loses 2 coins. Cost: 2 Brick, 2 Ore
(2) 14 VPs. Cost: 14 Coins
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Brick
Tree Farm: Produce Wood/Brick
Stone Pit: Produce Stone.
Marketplace: Manufactured Goods cost 1 to buy from both sides
East Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the right. Chain to: Forum.
West Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the left. Chain to: Forum.
Caravansery: Produce Brick/Stone/Ore/Wood. Chain from: Marketplace. Chain to: Lighthouse.
Forum: Produce Cloth/Glass/Paper. Chain from: West/East Trading Post.
Clandestine Dock East: Once per turn, pay one less coin to buy resources from your right.
Xenophon: Gain 2 coins for each yellow card you play.
Phidias: 1 VP per brown card.
Tables as the Colossus of Rhodes (B)
Coins: 16
Debt: 0
Strength: 3
Military Tokens: 2x +1, Total: 2 VP
Wonder stages built: 1
(1) 1 Shield, 3 VPs, 3 Coins. Cost: 3 Stone
(2) 1 Shield, 4 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: 4 Ore
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Ore
Forest Cave: Produce Wood/Ore.
Excavation: Produce Stone/Brick.
Stone Pit: Produce Stone
Secret Warehouse: Produce any one resource that you already produce.
Gambling House: 9 Coins. Each neighbour gets 2 coins.
Statue: 4 VPs. Chain from: Theater. Chain to: Gardens.
Guard Tower: 1 Shield. Cost: Brick.
Hannibal: 1 Shield.
Zenobia: 3 VPs.
Insomniac as the Temple of Artemis at Ephesos (B)
Coins: 2
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Military Tokens: 2x -1, Total: -2 VP
Wonder stages built: 1
(1) 2 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: 2 Stone
(2) 3 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: 2 Wood
(3) 5 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: Papyrus, Cloth, Glass
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Papyrus
Glassworks: Produce Glass
Lumber Yard: Produce Wood
Tavern: 5 Coins.
Baths: 3 VPs. Chain to: Aqueduct.
School: Tablet. Chain to: Academy & Study.
Dispensary: Compasses. Chain from: Apothecary. Chain to: Arena & Lodge.
Aristotle: 3 VPs per science set.
Euclid: Compass.
Galzria as the Lighthouse of Alexandria (B)
Coins: 1
Debt: 0
Strength: 5
Military Tokens: 2x +1, Total: 2 VP
Wonder stages built: 1
(1) Produce one raw material. Cost: 2 Brick
(2) Produce one manufactured good. Cost: 2 Wood
(3) 7 VPs. Cost: 3 Stone
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Glass
Loom: Produce Cloth
Tavern: 5 Coins
Scriptorium: Tablet. Chain to: Courthouse & Library.
Barracks: 1 Shield.
Guard Tower: 1 Shield.
Mercenaries: 3 Shields
Bilkis: Once per turn, may pay 1 coin to the bank to generate any one resource.
Caligula: Once per age, build a black card for free.
mith as the Hagia Sophia of Byzantium (B)
Coins: 3
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Military Tokens: 2x -1, Total: -2 VP
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 3 VPs, diplomacy. Cost: Paper, Glass, Wood, Ore
(2) 4 VPs, diplomacy. Cost: Cloth, Brick, 2 Ore
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Stone
Clay Pool: Produce Brick
Tavern: 5 Coins
East Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the right. Chain to: Forum.
Scriptorium: Tablet. Chain to: Courthouse & Library.
Workshop: Gear. Chain to: Archery Range & Laboratory.
Library: Tablet. Chain from: Scriptorium. Chain to: Senate & University.
School: Tablet. Chain to: Academy & Study.
Pigeon Loft: Copy a science symbol on a green card on your left or right.
Archimedes: Green cards cost 1 resource less.
Varro: 1 VP per yellow card.
eHalcyon as the Pyramids of Gizah (B)
Coins: 7
Debt: 0
Strength: 4
Military Tokens: 2x +1, Total: 2 VP
Wonder stages built: 1
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: 2 Wood
(2) 5 VPs. Cost: 3 Stone
(3) 5 VPs. Cost: 3 Brick
(4) 7 VPs. Cost: Papyrus, 4 Stone
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Stone
Timber Yard: Produce Stone/Wood
Clay Pit: Produce Brick/Ore.
Clay Pool: Produce Brick.
Glassworks: Produce Glass.
Loom: Produce Cloth.
Caravansery: Produce Brick/Stone/Ore/Wood. Chain from: Marketplace. Chain to: Lighthouse.
Militia: 2 Shields.
Archery Range: 2 Shields. Chain from: Workshop.
Diocletian: Gain 2 coins for each black card you play.
Watno as the Statue of Zeus at Olympia (A)
Coins: 6
Debt: 0
Strength: 1
Military Tokens: -none-, Total: 0 VP
Wonder stages built: 1
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: 2 Wood
(2) 1 free build per age. Cost: 2 Stone
(3) 7 VPs. Cost: 2 Ore
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Wood
Press: Produce Papyrus.
West Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the left. Chain to: Forum.
Baths: 3 VPs. Chain to: Aqueduct.
Temple: 3 VPs. Chain from: Altar. Chain to: Pantheon.
Apothecary: Compasses. Chain to: Stables & Dispensary.
Laboratory: Gear. Chain from: Workshop. Chain to: Siege Workshop & Observatory.
Stockade: 1 Shield.
Croesus: Take 6 coins.
Vitruvius: Gain 2 coins each time you build a card through chaining.
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Please check the above for mistakes. Also, please speak up if you haven't received your next hand yet.
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Various notes:
- oh man Xenophon has been good for Davio... Lighthouse will be great for him, and what if he has Varro?!
- mith has ALL THE TABLETS (including one coming from a mask). I haven't considered masks to be terribly useful, because you wouldn't really want to compete for green with a neighbour anyway, but it'll be interesting how it plays out in this game.
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MOAR TABLETS.
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(Also, I have Varro.)
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(Also, I have Varro.)
Not sure whether to believe.
/bluffing because I have Varro.
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Sadly, no Varro for me, my Leaders choice has been quite underwhelming this game.
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Question: at what point is it more beneficial to stack all of one symbol, vs. making sets? Hmm...
| Cards | Same | Sets |
| 1 | 1 | 1 |
| 2 | 4 | 2 |
| 3 | 9 | 10 |
| 4 | 16 | 13 |
| 5 | 25 | 16 |
| 6 | 36 | 26 |
Hm, single card overtakes quickly. Masks could be more useful than I thought!
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Question: at what point is it more beneficial to stack all of one symbol, vs. making sets? Hmm...
| Cards | Same | Sets |
| 1 | 1 | 1 |
| 2 | 4 | 2 |
| 3 | 9 | 10 |
| 4 | 16 | 13 |
| 5 | 25 | 16 |
| 6 | 36 | 26 |
Hm, single card overtakes quickly. Masks could be more useful than I thought!
Yes and no. I mean, sure, you can get good points from stacking 5+ of one symbol, but it's much easier to get even two of everything than five of one.
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Qvist (Halikarnassos):
Davio (Petra):
Tables (Rhodes):
Insomniac (Ephesos):
Galzria (Alexandria):
mith (Byzantium):
eHalcyon (Giza): DONE
Watno (Olympia):
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Qvist (Halikarnassos):
Davio (Petra):
Tables (Rhodes):
Insomniac (Ephesos):
Galzria (Alexandria):
mith (Byzantium):
eHalcyon (Giza): DONE
Watno (Olympia): DONE
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Davio, can you look into the QT?
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Qvist (Halikarnassos):
Davio (Petra):
Tables (Rhodes):
Insomniac (Ephesos):
Galzria (Alexandria): DONE
mith (Byzantium): DONE
eHalcyon (Giza): DONE
Watno (Olympia): DONE
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Qvist (Halikarnassos): DONE
Davio (Petra): DONE
Tables (Rhodes):
Insomniac (Ephesos):
Galzria (Alexandria): DONE
mith (Byzantium): DONE
eHalcyon (Giza): DONE
Watno (Olympia): DONE
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Posted some thoughts, Insomn.
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Posted some thoughts, Insomn.
Any movement on this?
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Great planning requires great time commitment. Also I'm looking now.
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Soooo?
Insomniac, you are online!
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I don't know about you guys, but Watno and I basically do this:
"I think you should build this and I should build this now, and that next round, because of this and that."
"But because of this and this, maybe we should this instead."
"Hmm, good point. OK, eHalcyon builds X, Watno builds Y."
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That's what we do as well, if we disagree we let the other be the deciding factor on his own wonder.
But I can understand if you need to discuss more deeply than that at some points.
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It's roughly the same for us, but it takes a long time to get replies. We're onto about post 65 or something.
Incidentally I've replied Insomn. Feel free to make the final decision and post here with it.
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Insomniac builds Wonder stage
Tables builds Forum
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(Buying the extra wood from Tables)
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Watno builds Forum, chaining from Trading Post, getting 2 coins
eHalcyon builds Lair: 3 VPs, everyone else loses 2 coins. eHalcyon gets $2 from Diocletian.
IMPORTANT
After everybody gives their actions, you'll all have to decide whether to pay $2 or take debt. We believe this should be done before hands are forwarded.
Edit: redacted, so as not to influence Insomniac's re-decision...
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(Buying the extra wood from Tables)
?? Your wonder stage costs Stone...
Edit: oh wait, was looking at an old listing...
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Mith builds Black Market: Pays 2 Coins to Galzria for Cloth, 1 Coin to eHal for Ore
Galzria discards, building Wonder Stage 2: Pays 1 Coin to Bilkis for Wood.
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Mith builds Black Market: Pays 2 Coins to Galzria for Cloth, 1 Coin to eHal for Ore
Galzria discards, building Wonder Stage 2: Pays 1 Coin to Bilkis for Wood.
Just to be clear, you know that building a Wonder doesn't discard the card, right? Cards used to build the wonder are placed underneath the wonder board. There is a difference and it actually matters for Halikarnassos and Solomon, which can fish cards out of the discard but not from underneath wonders.
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Yeah yeah. Maybe "Burn" would be a better term.
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Qvist (Halikarnassos):
Davio (Petra):
Tables (Rhodes):
Insomniac (Ephesos):
Galzria (Alexandria):
mith (Byzantium):
eHalcyon (Giza): DONE
Watno (Olympia): DONE
This one should be easy
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We're also waiting for Qvist/Davio to post what they built...
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Qvist plays Loom
Davio plays Aqueduct and pays me $1 for Stone
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Now just debt...
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Qvist (Halikarnassos):
Davio (Petra):
Tables (Rhodes):
Insomniac (Ephesos):
Galzria (Alexandria): DONE
mith (Byzantium): DONE
eHalcyon (Giza): DONE
Watno (Olympia): DONE
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Qvist plays Loom
Davio plays Aqueduct and pays Qvist $1 for Stone
Tables builds Forum
Insomniac builds Wonder stage and pays Tables $2 for Wood (and gains $4 from his Wonder)
Galzria builds Wonder Stage 2: Pays 1 Coin to Bilkis for Wood.
Mith builds Black Market: Pays 2 Coins to Galzria for Cloth, 1 Coin to eHal for Ore
eHalcyon builds Lair: 3 VPs, everyone else loses 2 coins. eHalcyon gets $2 from Diocletian.
Watno builds Forum, chaining from Trading Post, getting 2 coins
Everyone pays $2 except:
Qvist pays $1, takes 1 debt
Galz pays $1, takes 1 debt
mith takes 2 debt
Qvist as the Mausoleum of Halikarnassos (A)
Coins: 0
Debt: 1
Strength: 1
Military Tokens: -none-, Total: 0 VP
Wonder stages built: 1
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: 2 Brick
(2) Look through the discard pile and build a card for free. Cost: 3 Ore
(3) 7 VPs. Cost: 2 Cloth
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Cloth
Loom: Produce Cloth.
Mine: Produce Ore/Stone
Ore Vein: Produce Ore
Caravansery: Produce Brick/Stone/Ore/Wood. Chain from: Marketplace. Chain to: Lighthouse.
Gambling Den: 6 Coins. Each neighbour gets 1 coin.
Clandestine Dock West: Once per turn, pay one less coin to buy resources from your left.
Altar: 2 VPs. Chain to: Temple.
Stockade: 1 Shield.
Nero: Gain 2 coins for each victory token you earn.
Cleopatra: 5 VPs.
Davio as the Al-Khazneh of Petra (B)
Coins: 15
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Military Tokens: 2x -1, Total: -2 VP
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 3 VPs, everyone elses loses 2 coins. Cost: 2 Brick, 2 Ore
(2) 14 VPs. Cost: 14 Coins
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Brick
Tree Farm: Produce Wood/Brick
Stone Pit: Produce Stone.
Marketplace: Manufactured Goods cost 1 to buy from both sides
East Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the right. Chain to: Forum.
West Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the left. Chain to: Forum.
Caravansery: Produce Brick/Stone/Ore/Wood. Chain from: Marketplace. Chain to: Lighthouse.
Forum: Produce Cloth/Glass/Paper. Chain from: West/East Trading Post.
Clandestine Dock East: Once per turn, pay one less coin to buy resources from your right.
Aqueduct: 5 VPs. Chain from: Baths.
Xenophon: Gain 2 coins for each yellow card you play.
Phidias: 1 VP per brown card.
Tables as the Colossus of Rhodes (B)
Coins: 16
Debt: 0
Strength: 3
Military Tokens: 2x +1, Total: 2 VP
Wonder stages built: 1
(1) 1 Shield, 3 VPs, 3 Coins. Cost: 3 Stone
(2) 1 Shield, 4 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: 4 Ore
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Ore
Forest Cave: Produce Wood/Ore.
Excavation: Produce Stone/Brick.
Stone Pit: Produce Stone
Secret Warehouse: Produce any one resource that you already produce.
Forum: Produce Cloth/Glass/Paper. Chain from: West/East Trading Post. Chain to: Haven.
Gambling House: 9 Coins. Each neighbour gets 2 coins.
Statue: 4 VPs. Chain from: Theater. Chain to: Gardens.
Guard Tower: 1 Shield. Cost: Brick.
Hannibal: 1 Shield.
Zenobia: 3 VPs.
Insomniac as the Temple of Artemis at Ephesos (B)
Coins: 2
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Military Tokens: 2x -1, Total: -2 VP
Wonder stages built: 2
(1) 2 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: 2 Stone
(2) 3 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: 2 Wood
(3) 5 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: Papyrus, Cloth, Glass
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Papyrus
Glassworks: Produce Glass
Lumber Yard: Produce Wood
Tavern: 5 Coins.
Baths: 3 VPs. Chain to: Aqueduct.
School: Tablet. Chain to: Academy & Study.
Dispensary: Compasses. Chain from: Apothecary. Chain to: Arena & Lodge.
Aristotle: 3 VPs per science set.
Euclid: Compass.
Galzria as the Lighthouse of Alexandria (B)
Coins: 1
Debt: 1
Strength: 5
Military Tokens: 2x +1, Total: 2 VP
Wonder stages built: 2
(1) Produce one raw material. Cost: 2 Brick
(2) Produce one manufactured good. Cost: 2 Wood
(3) 7 VPs. Cost: 3 Stone
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Glass
Wonder Stage 1: Brick/Stone/Ore/Wood
Wonder Stage 2: Cloth/Glass/Paper
Loom: Produce Cloth
Tavern: 5 Coins
Scriptorium: Tablet. Chain to: Courthouse & Library.
Barracks: 1 Shield.
Guard Tower: 1 Shield.
Mercenaries: 3 Shields
Bilkis: Once per turn, may pay 1 coin to the bank to generate any one resource.
Caligula: Once per age, build a black card for free.
mith as the Hagia Sophia of Byzantium (B)
Coins: 0
Debt: 2
Strength: 0
Military Tokens: 2x -1, Total: -2 VP
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 3 VPs, diplomacy. Cost: Paper, Glass, Wood, Ore
(2) 4 VPs, diplomacy. Cost: Cloth, Brick, 2 Ore
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Stone
Clay Pool: Produce Brick
Black Market: Produce one resource you currently do not produce.
Tavern: 5 Coins
East Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the right. Chain to: Forum.
Scriptorium: Tablet. Chain to: Courthouse & Library.
Workshop: Gear. Chain to: Archery Range & Laboratory.
Library: Tablet. Chain from: Scriptorium. Chain to: Senate & University.
School: Tablet. Chain to: Academy & Study.
Pigeon Loft: Copy a science symbol on a green card on your left or right.
Archimedes: Green cards cost 1 resource less.
Varro: 1 VP per yellow card.
eHalcyon as the Pyramids of Gizah (B)
Coins: 10
Debt: 0
Strength: 4
Military Tokens: 2x +1, Total: 2 VP
Wonder stages built: 1
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: 2 Wood
(2) 5 VPs. Cost: 3 Stone
(3) 5 VPs. Cost: 3 Brick
(4) 7 VPs. Cost: Papyrus, 4 Stone
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Stone
Timber Yard: Produce Stone/Wood
Clay Pit: Produce Brick/Ore.
Clay Pool: Produce Brick.
Glassworks: Produce Glass.
Loom: Produce Cloth.
Caravansery: Produce Brick/Stone/Ore/Wood. Chain from: Marketplace. Chain to: Lighthouse.
Militia: 2 Shields.
Archery Range: 2 Shields. Chain from: Workshop.
Lair: 3 VPs, everyone else loses 2 coins.
Diocletian: Gain 2 coins for each black card you play.
Watno as the Statue of Zeus at Olympia (A)
Coins: 6
Debt: 0
Strength: 1
Military Tokens: -none-, Total: 0 VP
Wonder stages built: 1
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: 2 Wood
(2) 1 free build per age. Cost: 2 Stone
(3) 7 VPs. Cost: 2 Ore
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Wood
Press: Produce Papyrus.
West Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the left. Chain to: Forum.
Forum: Produce Cloth/Glass/Paper. Chain from: West/East Trading Post. Chain to: Haven.
Baths: 3 VPs. Chain to: Aqueduct.
Temple: 3 VPs. Chain from: Altar. Chain to: Pantheon.
Apothecary: Compasses. Chain to: Stables & Dispensary.
Laboratory: Gear. Chain from: Workshop. Chain to: Siege Workshop & Observatory.
Stockade: 1 Shield.
Croesus: Take 6 coins.
Vitruvius: Gain 2 coins each time you build a card through chaining.
(Edited to move mith's Black Market to the resource section of his tableau.)
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The above post is the update BEFORE debt is applied, in case anyone needs it for their decision. Please check it for mistakes. I added Galzria's wonder stages to his resources section because I spent too long trying to figure out how he only had to pay for 1 Wood. :P
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Davio pays 2 coins to the Bank, Qvist pays 1 and takes 1 Debt token.
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mith takes 2 debt
Galzria pays 1 Coin to the Bank and takes 1 debt
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Insomniac, Tables, what do you guys do about Debt? I'm pretty sure Tables will pay, but I don't know about Ins.
Also, I guess it doesn't matter if it's all revealed (and some of you have already revealed anyway) so -- Watno pays $2.
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I don't know about Ins either. He hasn't replied.
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bump
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Im actually waiting for tables right now.
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Oops.
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Insomn and I pay 2 coins
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I updated the summary above. Everyone pass cards now!
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Qvist (Halikarnassos): DONE
Davio (Petra): DONE
Tables (Rhodes):
Insomniac (Ephesos):
Galzria (Alexandria):
mith (Byzantium):
eHalcyon (Giza):
Watno (Olympia):
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Still waiting for cards.
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Still waiting for cards.
Galz? Mith?
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Galz you are online... Send cards!
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Er did I ever send cards? Galz/mith? I should probably make a decision. To be honest I've actually slightly lost interest in this, partially due to pace (two players has that effect)
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Er did I ever send cards? Galz/mith? I should probably make a decision. To be honest I've actually slightly lost interest in this, partially due to pace (two players has that effect)
Well, at least we're about halfway through. :)
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If everyone checked in just once a day... It really shouldn't take more than 3 days per Action.
And we still haven't received our hand. :-\
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Qvist (Halikarnassos): DONE
Davio (Petra): DONE
Tables (Rhodes):
Insomniac (Ephesos):
Galzria (Alexandria): DONE
mith (Byzantium): DONE
eHalcyon (Giza):
Watno (Olympia):
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Qvist (Halikarnassos): DONE
Davio (Petra): DONE
Tables (Rhodes):
Insomniac (Ephesos):
Galzria (Alexandria): DONE
mith (Byzantium): DONE
eHalcyon (Giza):
Watno (Olympia): DONE
Watno is good... I am probably good, but want to confirm with Watno to make sure. Tables and Ins, how's it coming?
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Uhh... badly?
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Is Ins very busy and semi V/LA or something?
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Qvist (Halikarnassos): DONE
Davio (Petra): DONE
Tables (Rhodes):
Insomniac (Ephesos):
Galzria (Alexandria): DONE
mith (Byzantium): DONE
eHalcyon (Giza): DONE
Watno (Olympia): DONE
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Erm,, I put mith and I down as done as in sent. But I still haven't received my new hand after debt.
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Erm,, I put mith and I down as done as in sent. But I still haven't received my new hand after debt.
I thought I hadn't sent it, but then you done'd and I decided I must have. Sending now.
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What do you all, especially Tables and Insomniac, think about the idea of having Tables make all the decisions for their team. I think that would speed up the game greatly. Would that be ok with you?
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What do you all, especially Tables and Insomniac, think about the idea of having Tables make all the decisions for their team. I think that would speed up the game greatly. Would that be ok with you?
Hmm... Ins is not V/LA. He's been active in mafia games. It really shouldn't take so long...
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Bump...
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Sigh. Ins hasn't responded. Guess I just make the decision for him.
Tables builds the Stables.
Insomniac builds Wonder stage 2 (paying Tables 2 coins, then getting 4 coins)
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I PM'd Ins last night and he's just been very busy the last week.
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So, um, are we all OK with Tables playing for Ins? If so, we might as well move on...
eHalcyon builds wonder stage 2.
Watno builds Library, paying $2 to eHalcyon for 2 Stone.
I assume everyone else has picked as well? There was some confusion with Galz, it seems, where he hadn't received his hand but he had still put down "DONE". But whatever.
Shall we move forward then?
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Galzria plays Temple, pays Bilkis 1 Coin
Mith plays Vineyard
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Galzria plays Temple, pays Bilkis 1 Coin
Mith plays Vineyard
And mith gets $4, if I'm counting correctly.
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The move Tables made is the one I would have made anyways, however I don't know what card he chose to use to do it, we might have disagreed there though I doubt it.
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He didn't post it in your QT?
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I didn't post it in my QT?
Uhh...
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I can't even find a record of sending the hand on either. Galz/Mith, do you have your next hand?
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I can't even find a record of sending the hand on either. Galz/Mith, do you have your next hand?
Forwarded back the hand you sent me, which contains this rounds play (Temple).
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Right, that's the one I saw. I think I know which one I decided, and it's the one Ins thought I should. So I'll send the new hand on.
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Don't send the next hand yet. Wait for Qvist and Davio. Davio's wonder could still cause debt...
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True. Ehh.
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Qvist, Davio?
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Qvist discards for 3 coins
Davio builds Bazaar (2 Coins per gray card in yours+neighbours cities) and gets 4 coins
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Qvist discards for 3 coins
Davio builds Bazaar (2 Coins per gray card in yours+neighbours cities) and gets 4 coins
Davio, I only see one grey card (from Qvist), so Bazaar should only give $2. Were you counting Qvist's wonder?
Sigh. Ins hasn't responded. Guess I just make the decision for him.
Tables builds the Stables.
Insomniac builds Wonder stage 2 (paying Tables 2 coins, then getting 4 coins)
Insomniac had already built Wonder stage 2. If you build stage 3, you need to pay $2 to Galzria...
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Qvist discards for $3
Davio builds Bazaar and gets $2, and $2 from Xenophon
Tables builds Stables
Insomniac builds Wonder stage 3, paying Galzria $2 for Cloth (and gaining $4 from his Wonder)
Galzria builds Temple, paying $1 to Bilkis
Mith builds Vineyard, getting $4
eHalcyon builds Wonder stage 2
Watno builds Library, paying $2 to eHalcyon for 2 Stone
Qvist as the Mausoleum of Halikarnassos (A)
Coins: 3
Debt: 1
Strength: 1
Military Tokens: -none-, Total: 0 VP
Wonder stages built: 1
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: 2 Brick
(2) Look through the discard pile and build a card for free. Cost: 3 Ore
(3) 7 VPs. Cost: 2 Cloth
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Cloth
Loom: Produce Cloth.
Mine: Produce Ore/Stone
Ore Vein: Produce Ore
Caravansery: Produce Brick/Stone/Ore/Wood. Chain from: Marketplace. Chain to: Lighthouse.
Gambling Den: 6 Coins. Each neighbour gets 1 coin.
Clandestine Dock West: Once per turn, pay one less coin to buy resources from your left.
Altar: 2 VPs. Chain to: Temple.
Stockade: 1 Shield.
Nero: Gain 2 coins for each victory token you earn.
Cleopatra: 5 VPs.
Davio as the Al-Khazneh of Petra (B)
Coins: 19
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Military Tokens: 2x -1, Total: -2 VP
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 3 VPs, everyone elses loses 2 coins. Cost: 2 Brick, 2 Ore
(2) 14 VPs. Cost: 14 Coins
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Brick
Tree Farm: Produce Wood/Brick
Stone Pit: Produce Stone.
Marketplace: Manufactured Goods cost 1 to buy from both sides
East Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the right. Chain to: Forum.
West Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the left. Chain to: Forum.
Caravansery: Produce Brick/Stone/Ore/Wood. Chain from: Marketplace. Chain to: Lighthouse.
Forum: Produce Cloth/Glass/Paper. Chain from: West/East Trading Post.
Bazaar: 2 Coins per gray card in yours+neighbours cities.
Clandestine Dock East: Once per turn, pay one less coin to buy resources from your right.
Aqueduct: 5 VPs. Chain from: Baths.
Xenophon: Gain 2 coins for each yellow card you play.
Phidias: 1 VP per brown card.
Tables as the Colossus of Rhodes (B)
Coins: 16
Debt: 0
Strength: 5
Military Tokens: 2x +1, Total: 2 VP
Wonder stages built: 1
(1) 1 Shield, 3 VPs, 3 Coins. Cost: 3 Stone
(2) 1 Shield, 4 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: 4 Ore
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Ore
Forest Cave: Produce Wood/Ore.
Excavation: Produce Stone/Brick.
Stone Pit: Produce Stone
Secret Warehouse: Produce any one resource that you already produce.
Forum: Produce Cloth/Glass/Paper. Chain from: West/East Trading Post. Chain to: Haven.
Gambling House: 9 Coins. Each neighbour gets 2 coins.
Statue: 4 VPs. Chain from: Theater. Chain to: Gardens.
Guard Tower: 1 Shield. Cost: Brick.
Stables: 2 Shields. Chain from: Apothecary.
Hannibal: 1 Shield.
Zenobia: 3 VPs.
Insomniac as the Temple of Artemis at Ephesos (B)
Coins: 4
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Military Tokens: 2x -1, Total: -2 VP
Wonder stages built: 3
(1) 2 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: 2 Stone
(2) 3 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: 2 Wood
(3) 5 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: Papyrus, Cloth, Glass
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Papyrus
Glassworks: Produce Glass
Lumber Yard: Produce Wood
Tavern: 5 Coins.
Baths: 3 VPs. Chain to: Aqueduct.
School: Tablet. Chain to: Academy & Study.
Dispensary: Compasses. Chain from: Apothecary. Chain to: Arena & Lodge.
Aristotle: 3 VPs per science set.
Euclid: Compass.
Galzria as the Lighthouse of Alexandria (B)
Coins: 2
Debt: 1
Strength: 5
Military Tokens: 2x +1, Total: 2 VP
Wonder stages built: 2
(1) Produce one raw material. Cost: 2 Brick
(2) Produce one manufactured good. Cost: 2 Wood
(3) 7 VPs. Cost: 3 Stone
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Glass
Wonder Stage 1: Brick/Stone/Ore/Wood
Wonder Stage 2: Cloth/Glass/Paper
Loom: Produce Cloth
Tavern: 5 Coins
Scriptorium: Tablet. Chain to: Courthouse & Library.
Barracks: 1 Shield.
Guard Tower: 1 Shield.
Mercenaries: 3 Shields
Temple: 3 VPs. Chain from: Altar. Chain to: Pantheon.
Bilkis: Once per turn, may pay 1 coin to the bank to generate any one resource.
Caligula: Once per age, build a black card for free.
mith as the Hagia Sophia of Byzantium (B)
Coins: 4
Debt: 2
Strength: 0
Military Tokens: 2x -1, Total: -2 VP
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 3 VPs, diplomacy. Cost: Paper, Glass, Wood, Ore
(2) 4 VPs, diplomacy. Cost: Cloth, Brick, 2 Ore
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Stone
Clay Pool: Produce Brick
Black Market: Produce one resource you currently do not produce.
Tavern: 5 Coins
East Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the right. Chain to: Forum.
Vineyard: 1 Coin per brown card in yours+neighbours cities.
Scriptorium: Tablet. Chain to: Courthouse & Library.
Workshop: Gear. Chain to: Archery Range & Laboratory.
Library: Tablet. Chain from: Scriptorium. Chain to: Senate & University.
School: Tablet. Chain to: Academy & Study.
Pigeon Loft: Copy a science symbol on a green card on your left or right.
Archimedes: Green cards cost 1 resource less.
Varro: 1 VP per yellow card.
eHalcyon as the Pyramids of Gizah (B)
Coins: 12
Debt: 0
Strength: 4
Military Tokens: 2x +1, Total: 2 VP
Wonder stages built: 2
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: 2 Wood
(2) 5 VPs. Cost: 3 Stone
(3) 5 VPs. Cost: 3 Brick
(4) 7 VPs. Cost: Papyrus, 4 Stone
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Stone
Timber Yard: Produce Stone/Wood
Clay Pit: Produce Brick/Ore.
Clay Pool: Produce Brick.
Glassworks: Produce Glass.
Loom: Produce Cloth.
Caravansery: Produce Brick/Stone/Ore/Wood. Chain from: Marketplace. Chain to: Lighthouse.
Militia: 2 Shields.
Archery Range: 2 Shields. Chain from: Workshop.
Lair: 3 VPs, everyone else loses 2 coins.
Diocletian: Gain 2 coins for each black card you play.
Watno as the Statue of Zeus at Olympia (A)
Coins: 4
Debt: 0
Strength: 1
Military Tokens: -none-, Total: 0 VP
Wonder stages built: 1
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: 2 Wood
(2) 1 free build per age. Cost: 2 Stone
(3) 7 VPs. Cost: 2 Ore
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Wood
Press: Produce Papyrus.
West Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the left. Chain to: Forum.
Forum: Produce Cloth/Glass/Paper. Chain from: West/East Trading Post. Chain to: Haven.
Baths: 3 VPs. Chain to: Aqueduct.
Temple: 3 VPs. Chain from: Altar. Chain to: Pantheon.
Apothecary: Compasses. Chain to: Stables & Dispensary.
Laboratory: Gear. Chain from: Workshop. Chain to: Siege Workshop & Observatory.
Library: Tablet. Chain from: Scriptorium. Chain to: Senate & University.
Stockade: 1 Shield.
Croesus: Take 6 coins.
Vitruvius: Gain 2 coins each time you build a card through chaining.
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As always, please check the above for mistakes.
Assumptions I made:
- Davio builds Bazaar despite it only giving 2 coins. Let me know if I really am counting wrong, or if you'd just rather discard it instead of building it.
- Insomniac intends to build wonder stage 3 (which involves paying Galz for Cloth). Let me know if you'd rather just discard for coin.
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Yes, stage 3 was correct. Forgot he had stage 2.
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I get 2 extra coins from Xenophon.
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I get 2 extra coins from Xenophon.
Ahh, of course.
Fixed!
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Hand sent. Waiting for ours!
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Hand sent. Waiting for ours!
Sent
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Qvist (Halikarnassos):
Davio (Petra):
Tables (Rhodes):
Insomniac (Ephesos):
Galzria (Alexandria):
mith (Byzantium):
eHalcyon (Giza): DONE
Watno (Olympia): DONE
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Does everyone have their hands?
We're near the end of the round. Choices should be fairly straight forward at this point!
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Qvist (Halikarnassos):
Davio (Petra):
Tables (Rhodes):
Insomniac (Ephesos):
Galzria (Alexandria): DONE
mith (Byzantium): DONE
eHalcyon (Giza): DONE
Watno (Olympia): DONE
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bump!
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Qvist, check out our QT. :)
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Qvist (Halikarnassos): DONE
Davio (Petra): DONE
Tables (Rhodes):
Insomniac (Ephesos):
Galzria (Alexandria): DONE
mith (Byzantium): DONE
eHalcyon (Giza): DONE
Watno (Olympia): DONE
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Qvist and Davio, have you sent Tables' hand for this turn?
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Insomn, can you confirm in our QT and then post here?
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I build Bazar, Tables discards for money
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Galzria builds Quarry for 1 coin, mith discards for 3 coins.
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eHalcyon builds wonder stage 3.
Watno builds Archery Range, paying $2 to eHalcyon.
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Qvist builds Walls: 2 Shields by paying Davio 2 coins for Stone.
Davio builds Courthouse: 4 VPs and pays me 1 coin for Cloth.
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Qvist, sent your hand so you can start thinking about this while you're still here. Everyone send on your hands! I'm compiling the update now.
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Davio has a Forum, which means he cannot pay Qvist for Cloth as he produces it himself already.
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Cards sent to Tables and Insomniac.
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Davio has a Forum, which means he cannot pay Qvist for Cloth as he produces it himself already.
Does he need to use it?
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Qvist builds Walls: 2 Shields, paying Davio $2 for Stone
Davio builds Courthouse: 4VP
Tables discards for $3
Insomniac builds Bazaar, getting $4
Galzria builds Quarry, paying $1
mith discards for $3
eHalcyon builds Wonder stage 3
Watno builds Archery Range, paying eHalcyon $2 for Wood, Ore
Qvist as the Mausoleum of Halikarnassos (A)
Coins: 1
Debt: 1
Strength: 3
Military Tokens: -none-, Total: 0 VP
Wonder stages built: 1
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: 2 Brick
(2) Look through the discard pile and build a card for free. Cost: 3 Ore
(3) 7 VPs. Cost: 2 Cloth
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Cloth
Loom: Produce Cloth.
Mine: Produce Ore/Stone
Ore Vein: Produce Ore
Caravansery: Produce Brick/Stone/Ore/Wood. Chain from: Marketplace. Chain to: Lighthouse.
Gambling Den: 6 Coins. Each neighbour gets 1 coin.
Clandestine Dock West: Once per turn, pay one less coin to buy resources from your left (Watno).
Altar: 2 VPs. Chain to: Temple.
Stockade: 1 Shield.
Walls: 2 Shields. Chain to: Fortifications.
Nero: Gain 2 coins for each victory token you earn.
Cleopatra: 5 VPs.
Davio as the Al-Khazneh of Petra (B)
Coins: 21
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Military Tokens: 2x -1, Total: -2 VP
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 3 VPs, everyone elses loses 2 coins. Cost: 2 Brick, 2 Ore
(2) 14 VPs. Cost: 14 Coins
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Brick
Tree Farm: Produce Wood/Brick
Stone Pit: Produce Stone.
Marketplace: Manufactured Goods cost 1 to buy from both sides
East Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the right (Tables). Chain to: Forum.
West Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the left (Qvist). Chain to: Forum.
Caravansery: Produce Brick/Stone/Ore/Wood. Chain from: Marketplace. Chain to: Lighthouse.
Forum: Produce Cloth/Glass/Paper. Chain from: West/East Trading Post.
Bazaar: 2 Coins per gray card in yours+neighbours cities.
Clandestine Dock East: Once per turn, pay one less coin to buy resources from your right (Tables).
Aqueduct: 5 VPs. Chain from: Baths.
Courthouse: 4VPs. Chain from: Scriptorium.
Xenophon: Gain 2 coins for each yellow card you play.
Phidias: 1 VP per brown card.
Tables as the Colossus of Rhodes (B)
Coins: 19
Debt: 0
Strength: 5
Military Tokens: 2x +1, Total: 2 VP
Wonder stages built: 1
(1) 1 Shield, 3 VPs, 3 Coins. Cost: 3 Stone
(2) 1 Shield, 4 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: 4 Ore
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Ore
Forest Cave: Produce Wood/Ore.
Excavation: Produce Stone/Brick.
Stone Pit: Produce Stone
Secret Warehouse: Produce any one resource that you already produce.
Forum: Produce Cloth/Glass/Paper. Chain from: West/East Trading Post. Chain to: Haven.
Gambling House: 9 Coins. Each neighbour gets 2 coins.
Statue: 4 VPs. Chain from: Theater. Chain to: Gardens.
Guard Tower: 1 Shield. Cost: Brick.
Stables: 2 Shields. Chain from: Apothecary.
Hannibal: 1 Shield.
Zenobia: 3 VPs.
Insomniac as the Temple of Artemis at Ephesos (B)
Coins: 8
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Military Tokens: 2x -1, Total: -2 VP
Wonder stages built: 3
(1) 2 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: 2 Stone
(2) 3 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: 2 Wood
(3) 5 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: Papyrus, Cloth, Glass
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Papyrus
Glassworks: Produce Glass
Lumber Yard: Produce Wood
Tavern: 5 Coins.
Bazaar: 2 Coins per gray card in yours+neighbours cities.
Baths: 3 VPs. Chain to: Aqueduct.
School: Tablet. Chain to: Academy & Study.
Dispensary: Compasses. Chain from: Apothecary. Chain to: Arena & Lodge.
Aristotle: 3 VPs per science set.
Euclid: Compass.
Galzria as the Lighthouse of Alexandria (B)
Coins: 1
Debt: 1
Strength: 5
Military Tokens: 2x +1, Total: 2 VP
Wonder stages built: 2
(1) Produce one raw material. Cost: 2 Brick
(2) Produce one manufactured good. Cost: 2 Wood
(3) 7 VPs. Cost: 3 Stone
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Glass
Wonder Stage 1: Brick/Stone/Ore/Wood
Wonder Stage 2: Cloth/Glass/Paper
Loom: Produce Cloth
Quarry: Produce two Stone.
Tavern: 5 Coins
Scriptorium: Tablet. Chain to: Courthouse & Library.
Barracks: 1 Shield.
Guard Tower: 1 Shield.
Mercenaries: 3 Shields
Temple: 3 VPs. Chain from: Altar. Chain to: Pantheon.
Bilkis: Once per turn, may pay 1 coin to the bank to generate any one resource.
Caligula: Once per age, build a black card for free.
mith as the Hagia Sophia of Byzantium (B)
Coins: 7
Debt: 2
Strength: 0
Military Tokens: 2x -1, Total: -2 VP
Wonder stages built: 0
(1) 3 VPs, diplomacy. Cost: Paper, Glass, Wood, Ore
(2) 4 VPs, diplomacy. Cost: Cloth, Brick, 2 Ore
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Stone
Clay Pool: Produce Brick
Black Market: Produce one resource you currently do not produce.
Tavern: 5 Coins
East Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the right (eHalcyon). Chain to: Forum.
Vineyard: 1 Coin per brown card in yours+neighbours cities.
Scriptorium: Tablet. Chain to: Courthouse & Library.
Workshop: Gear. Chain to: Archery Range & Laboratory.
Library: Tablet. Chain from: Scriptorium. Chain to: Senate & University.
School: Tablet. Chain to: Academy & Study.
Pigeon Loft: Copy a science symbol on a green card on your left or right.
Archimedes: Green cards cost 1 resource less.
Varro: 1 VP per yellow card.
eHalcyon as the Pyramids of Gizah (B)
Coins: 14
Debt: 0
Strength: 4
Military Tokens: 2x +1, Total: 2 VP
Wonder stages built: 3
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: 2 Wood
(2) 5 VPs. Cost: 3 Stone
(3) 5 VPs. Cost: 3 Brick
(4) 7 VPs. Cost: Papyrus, 4 Stone
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Stone
Timber Yard: Produce Stone/Wood
Clay Pit: Produce Brick/Ore.
Clay Pool: Produce Brick.
Glassworks: Produce Glass.
Loom: Produce Cloth.
Caravansery: Produce Brick/Stone/Ore/Wood. Chain from: Marketplace. Chain to: Lighthouse.
Militia: 2 Shields.
Archery Range: 2 Shields. Chain from: Workshop.
Lair: 3 VPs, everyone else loses 2 coins.
Diocletian: Gain 2 coins for each black card you play.
Watno as the Statue of Zeus at Olympia (A)
Coins: 2
Debt: 0
Strength: 3
Military Tokens: -none-, Total: 0 VP
Wonder stages built: 1
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: 2 Wood
(2) 1 free build per age. Cost: 2 Stone
(3) 7 VPs. Cost: 2 Ore
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Wood
Press: Produce Papyrus.
West Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the left (eHalcyon). Chain to: Forum.
Forum: Produce Cloth/Glass/Paper. Chain from: West/East Trading Post. Chain to: Haven.
Baths: 3 VPs. Chain to: Aqueduct.
Temple: 3 VPs. Chain from: Altar. Chain to: Pantheon.
Apothecary: Compasses. Chain to: Stables & Dispensary.
Laboratory: Gear. Chain from: Workshop. Chain to: Siege Workshop & Observatory.
Library: Tablet. Chain from: Scriptorium. Chain to: Senate & University.
Stockade: 1 Shield.
Archery Range: 2 Shields. Chain from: Workshop.
Croesus: Take 6 coins.
Vitruvius: Gain 2 coins each time you build a card through chaining.
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Davio has a Forum, which means he cannot pay Qvist for Cloth as he produces it himself already.
Does he need to use it?
Yeah, the rules say you need to use what you have before you can buy.
Please check the above for mistakes!
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Sent to eHal. Still need our final hand.
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Qvist (Halikarnassos):
Davio (Petra):
Tables (Rhodes):
Insomniac (Ephesos):
Galzria (Alexandria):
mith (Byzantium):
eHalcyon (Giza): DONE
Watno (Olympia): DONE
Haven't discussed it with Watno, but there's pretty much no question here.
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How dare you make such critical last turn decisions without him?!? Maybe he REALLY thinks your other choice is better!
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THere are so mayn options, but in fact im DONE.
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I still do not have my final hand.
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Hang on, that's my fault isn't it? Whoops
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Davio has a Forum, which means he cannot pay Qvist for Cloth as he produces it himself already.
Does he need to use it?
Yeah, the rules say you need to use what you have before you can buy.
Please check the above for mistakes!
Well, I do not produce it in the sense that production only comes from grey or brown buildings and/or wonder resources.
That's what I reasoned at least. Yellow cards don't produce as far as I know, nor do black cards.
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Davio has a Forum, which means he cannot pay Qvist for Cloth as he produces it himself already.
Does he need to use it?
Yeah, the rules say you need to use what you have before you can buy.
Please check the above for mistakes!
Well, I do not produce it in the sense that production only comes from grey or brown buildings and/or wonder resources.
That's what I reasoned at least. Yellow cards don't produce as far as I know, nor do black cards.
I would still consider it production. It gives you resources that you can use. Same with the blacks.
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Note that the iconography on Caravansery, Forum and Alexandria match the iconography of brown and grey cards, including the slash to mean either/or. The text versions we use in this game say "produce". I am pretty sure that's what is written in the rules book as well.
Edit: yes, it says in the rules for Production (page 4):
"The resources of a city are produced by its Wonder board, its brown cards, its gray cards, and some yellow cards."
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Any movement on this? We don't want 7WIV to beat us into Age III.
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Note that the iconography on Caravansery, Forum and Alexandria match the iconography of brown and grey cards, including the slash to mean either/or. The text versions we use in this game say "produce". I am pretty sure that's what is written in the rules book as well.
Edit: yes, it says in the rules for Production (page 4):
"The resources of a city are produced by its Wonder board, its brown cards, its gray cards, and some yellow cards."
Okay, but the black card which "doubles a resource you already produce" can't double resources from Yellow cards, right?
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I'm just waiting on tables to confirm, and post here when hes ready
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Note that the iconography on Caravansery, Forum and Alexandria match the iconography of brown and grey cards, including the slash to mean either/or. The text versions we use in this game say "produce". I am pretty sure that's what is written in the rules book as well.
Edit: yes, it says in the rules for Production (page 4):
"The resources of a city are produced by its Wonder board, its brown cards, its gray cards, and some yellow cards."
Okay, but the black card which "doubles a resource you already produce" can't double resources from Yellow cards, right?
Yes. The rules book for Cities specifies that they only count the resources produced by brown and grey cards (and initial wonder) specifically:
Secret Warehouse: Each turn, the card produces a resource of the player’s choice from among those that their city already produces through its brown and gray cards or the initial resource of their board.
Clarification : the Secret Warehouse doesn’t allow players to double the production on yellow, white, or black cards (Forum, Caravansary, Bilkis and Black Market).
Black Market: Each turn, the card produces one resource of the player’s choice from among those that their city doesn’t produce through the use of its brown and gray cards or the initial resource of their board.
Clarification : the resources produced by the yellow, white and black cards aren’t taken into account.
I'm just waiting on tables to confirm, and post here when hes ready
The other teams haven't said they are done yet either. :)
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Qvist (Halikarnassos):
Davio (Petra):
Tables (Rhodes): DONE
Insomniac (Ephesos): DONE
Galzria (Alexandria):
mith (Byzantium):
eHalcyon (Giza): DONE
Watno (Olympia): DONE
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Qvist (Halikarnassos):
Davio (Petra):
Tables (Rhodes): DONE
Insomniac (Ephesos): DONE
Galzria (Alexandria): DONE
mith (Byzantium): DONE
eHalcyon (Giza): DONE
Watno (Olympia): DONE
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This might be a good time to go back and check which cards you have discarded, in case Qvist builds his wonder or someone plays Solomon.
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Going back to check where discards have happened, other than end of Age I and end of Age II.
Insom discards in I4.
Galz discards in I6.
8 cards discarded for each player at the end of Age I.
Qvist discards in II4.
Tables discards in II5.
mith discards in II5.
So there are currently 10 Age I cards and 3 Age II cards in the discard. There may be some more discards in this turn (II6), not to mention the regular 8 cards discarded at the end of Age II.
I'm calling it now, Tables+Insomn come last by a significant margin. There's... so many things that have gone wrong already, and we've barely started.
Still want to hear about this, but I think you guys seem to be doing pretty well so far.
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Age II went better. In Age I mainly, Insomn plays a science investment leader, two to his right, Aristotle appears. We see no science in the entirety of age I except in our first hand. I don't remember what else there way, but it might have been a bit of an exaggeration, I admit.
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Age II went better. In Age I mainly, Insomn plays a science investment leader, two to his right, Aristotle appears. We see no science in the entirety of age I except in our first hand. I don't remember what else there way, but it might have been a bit of an exaggeration, I admit.
That was way back in hand 1 or 2 though, so you wouldn't have known that no more science would be coming. :P
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Yes, but seeing Aristotle go down was pretty much a surefire sign most of it would be disappearing. Oh, wait, I think I personally had 3/6 science cards in my hand or... something. Maybe I had 2 and Insomn had 1 he couldn't build, something like that.
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Qvist discards for 3 coins
Davio builds the 1st stage of his wonder, everybody loses 2 coins.
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Tables builds the Foundry paying 1 coin
Insomniac builds the Loom
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eHalcyon builds Wonder stage 4, paying $2 to Watno for Paper and $2 to mith for Stone.
Watno builds Vineyard, getting $5.
I guess after we get Galz and mith's moves we can figure out debt and millitary.
I totally suspected that this would come now, when everyone was about to pay for leaders. :P
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Galzria discards for 3 Coins
Mith builds Wonder, paying 2 Coins to Galzria, and 2 Coins to eHalcyon
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Edit: moved to next page.
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Qvist discards for 3 coin
Davio builds the first stage of his wonder, paying $1 to Qvist for Ore
Tables builds Foundry, paying $1
Insomniac builds Loom
Galzria discards for 3 coin
mith builds wonder, paying $2 to Galzria for Glass, $2 to eHalcyon for Wood and Ore
eHalcyon builds Wonder stage 4, paying $2 to Watno for Paper and $2 to mith for Stone
Watno builds Vineyard, getting $5
Debt:
Qvist pays $2
Tables an Ins pay $2
Galzria pays $1 and takes 1 debt token; mith pays $2
eHalcyon and Watno pay $2
Military:
Qvist and Watno tie
Tables beats Davio
Galz beats Ins
eHalc beats mith (Diplomacy cuts it in half)
Qvist as the Mausoleum of Halikarnassos (A)
Coins: 3
Debt: 1
Strength: 3
Military Tokens: -none-, Total: 0 VP
Wonder stages built: 1
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: 2 Brick
(2) Look through the discard pile and build a card for free. Cost: 3 Ore
(3) 7 VPs. Cost: 2 Cloth
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Cloth
Loom: Produce Cloth.
Mine: Produce Ore/Stone
Ore Vein: Produce Ore
Caravansery: Produce Brick/Stone/Ore/Wood. Chain from: Marketplace. Chain to: Lighthouse.
Gambling Den: 6 Coins. Each neighbour gets 1 coin.
Clandestine Dock West: Once per turn, pay one less coin to buy resources from your left (Watno).
Altar: 2 VPs. Chain to: Temple.
Stockade: 1 Shield.
Walls: 2 Shields. Chain to: Fortifications.
Nero: Gain 2 coins for each victory token you earn.
Cleopatra: 5 VPs.
Davio as the Al-Khazneh of Petra (B)
Coins: 20
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Military Tokens: 4x -1, Total: -4 VP
Wonder stages built: 1
(1) 3 VPs, everyone elses loses 2 coins. Cost: 2 Brick, 2 Ore
(2) 14 VPs. Cost: 14 Coins
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Brick
Tree Farm: Produce Wood/Brick
Stone Pit: Produce Stone.
Marketplace: Manufactured Goods cost 1 to buy from both sides
East Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the right (Tables). Chain to: Forum.
West Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the left (Qvist). Chain to: Forum.
Caravansery: Produce Brick/Stone/Ore/Wood. Chain from: Marketplace. Chain to: Lighthouse.
Forum: Produce Cloth/Glass/Paper. Chain from: West/East Trading Post.
Bazaar: 2 Coins per gray card in yours+neighbours cities.
Clandestine Dock East: Once per turn, pay one less coin to buy resources from your right (Tables).
Aqueduct: 5 VPs. Chain from: Baths.
Courthouse: 4VPs. Chain from: Scriptorium.
Xenophon: Gain 2 coins for each yellow card you play.
Phidias: 1 VP per brown card.
Tables as the Colossus of Rhodes (B)
Coins: 16
Debt: 0
Strength: 5
Military Tokens: 2x +1, 2x +3, Total: 8 VP
Wonder stages built: 1
(1) 1 Shield, 3 VPs, 3 Coins. Cost: 3 Stone
(2) 1 Shield, 4 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: 4 Ore
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Ore
Forest Cave: Produce Wood/Ore.
Excavation: Produce Stone/Brick.
Stone Pit: Produce Stone
Foundry: Produce 2 Ore
Secret Warehouse: Produce any one resource that you already produce.
Forum: Produce Cloth/Glass/Paper. Chain from: West/East Trading Post. Chain to: Haven.
Gambling House: 9 Coins. Each neighbour gets 2 coins.
Statue: 4 VPs. Chain from: Theater. Chain to: Gardens.
Guard Tower: 1 Shield. Cost: Brick.
Stables: 2 Shields. Chain from: Apothecary.
Hannibal: 1 Shield.
Zenobia: 3 VPs.
Insomniac as the Temple of Artemis at Ephesos (B)
Coins: 6
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Military Tokens: 4x -1, Total: -4 VP
Wonder stages built: 3
(1) 2 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: 2 Stone
(2) 3 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: 2 Wood
(3) 5 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: Papyrus, Cloth, Glass
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Papyrus
Glassworks: Produce Glass
Loom: Produce Cloth
Lumber Yard: Produce Wood
Tavern: 5 Coins.
Bazaar: 2 Coins per gray card in yours+neighbours cities.
Baths: 3 VPs. Chain to: Aqueduct.
School: Tablet. Chain to: Academy & Study.
Dispensary: Compasses. Chain from: Apothecary. Chain to: Arena & Lodge.
Aristotle: 3 VPs per science set.
Euclid: Compass.
Galzria as the Lighthouse of Alexandria (B)
Coins: 5
Debt: 2
Strength: 5
Military Tokens: 2x +1, 2x +3, Total: 8 VP
Wonder stages built: 2
(1) Produce one raw material. Cost: 2 Brick
(2) Produce one manufactured good. Cost: 2 Wood
(3) 7 VPs. Cost: 3 Stone
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Glass
Wonder Stage 1: Brick/Stone/Ore/Wood
Wonder Stage 2: Cloth/Glass/Paper
Loom: Produce Cloth
Quarry: Produce two Stone.
Tavern: 5 Coins
Scriptorium: Tablet. Chain to: Courthouse & Library.
Barracks: 1 Shield.
Guard Tower: 1 Shield.
Mercenaries: 3 Shields
Temple: 3 VPs. Chain from: Altar. Chain to: Pantheon.
Bilkis: Once per turn, may pay 1 coin to the bank to generate any one resource.
Caligula: Once per age, build a black card for free.
mith as the Hagia Sophia of Byzantium (B)
Coins: 3
Debt: 2
Strength: 0
Military Tokens: 3x -1, Total: -3 VP
Wonder stages built: 1
(1) 3 VPs, diplomacy. Cost: Paper, Glass, Wood, Ore
(2) 4 VPs, diplomacy. Cost: Cloth, Brick, 2 Ore
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Stone
Clay Pool: Produce Brick
Black Market: Produce one resource you currently do not produce.
Tavern: 5 Coins
East Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the right (eHalcyon). Chain to: Forum.
Vineyard: 1 Coin per brown card in yours+neighbours cities.
Scriptorium: Tablet. Chain to: Courthouse & Library.
Workshop: Gear. Chain to: Archery Range & Laboratory.
Library: Tablet. Chain from: Scriptorium. Chain to: Senate & University.
School: Tablet. Chain to: Academy & Study.
Pigeon Loft: Copy a science symbol on a green card on your left or right.
Archimedes: Green cards cost 1 resource less.
Varro: 1 VP per yellow card.
eHalcyon as the Pyramids of Gizah (B)
Coins: 10
Debt: 0
Strength: 4
Military Tokens: 2x +1, 1x +3, Total: 5 VP
Wonder stages built: 4
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: 2 Wood
(2) 5 VPs. Cost: 3 Stone
(3) 5 VPs. Cost: 3 Brick
(4) 7 VPs. Cost: Papyrus, 4 Stone
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Stone
Timber Yard: Produce Stone/Wood
Clay Pit: Produce Brick/Ore.
Clay Pool: Produce Brick.
Glassworks: Produce Glass.
Loom: Produce Cloth.
Caravansery: Produce Brick/Stone/Ore/Wood. Chain from: Marketplace. Chain to: Lighthouse.
Militia: 2 Shields.
Archery Range: 2 Shields. Chain from: Workshop.
Lair: 3 VPs, everyone else loses 2 coins.
Diocletian: Gain 2 coins for each black card you play.
Watno as the Statue of Zeus at Olympia (A)
Coins: 7
Debt: 0
Strength: 3
Military Tokens: -none-, Total: 0 VP
Wonder stages built: 1
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: 2 Wood
(2) 1 free build per age. Cost: 2 Stone
(3) 7 VPs. Cost: 2 Ore
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Wood
Press: Produce Papyrus.
West Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the left (eHalcyon). Chain to: Forum.
Forum: Produce Cloth/Glass/Paper. Chain from: West/East Trading Post. Chain to: Haven.
Vineyard: 1 Coin per brown card in yours+neighbours' cities.
Baths: 3 VPs. Chain to: Aqueduct.
Temple: 3 VPs. Chain from: Altar. Chain to: Pantheon.
Apothecary: Compasses. Chain to: Stables & Dispensary.
Laboratory: Gear. Chain from: Workshop. Chain to: Siege Workshop & Observatory.
Library: Tablet. Chain from: Scriptorium. Chain to: Senate & University.
Stockade: 1 Shield.
Archery Range: 2 Shields. Chain from: Workshop.
Croesus: Take 6 coins.
Vitruvius: Gain 2 coins each time you build a card through chaining.
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Please check for mistakes. I've done military (boooo, Diplomacy!) but we still need to resolve debt.
I believe Davio needs to buy one more Ore for his wonder, and of course he would buy from Qvist.
So yeah... debt?
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Hmm, 18 coins? Let me check my leaders... umm... I pay 2 coins. I think Insomn does as well, will confirm.
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Watno and eHalcyon both pay $2.
We've also chosen what to do with leaders for Age III.
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Bump. Hey guys, if you are interested in Guilds, we should get a move on to Age III!
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Mith pays 2 Coins, Galzria pays 1 Coin (and takes 1 Debt Token)
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I pay $2
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Bump. Hey guys, if you are interested in Guilds, we should get a move on to Age III!
Damn, no +1s to give.
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Hmm, 18 coins? Let me check my leaders... umm... I pay 2 coins. I think Insomn does as well, will confirm.
So we just need Tabls and Ins to confirm.
Everyone pick leaders yet?
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Bump. Hey guys, if you are interested in Guilds, we should get a move on to Age III!
Damn, no +1s to give.
Did you ever see this?
http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=6742.0
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Sorry. Insomn, I've replied, yours is the final choice from here though.
We've also decided leaders for what it's worth.
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Any movement on this?
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Sorry. Insomn, I've replied, yours is the final choice from here though.
We've also decided leaders for what it's worth.
So...
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Oops, forgot about the leaders. Davio, come discuss.
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Sorry we're done.
Insom and Tables pays 2 coins
Here's where it comes back to bite us...
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Sorry we're done.
Insom and Tables pays 2 coins
Here's where it comes back to bite us...
So you haven't picked leaders yet? I guess Qvist and Davio are still doing that too.
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We have. I presume everyone else chose debt but I dunno if everyone's chosen Leaders, in case money was an issue?
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We have. I presume everyone else chose debt but I dunno if everyone's chosen Leaders, in case money was an issue?
Well, Watno and I have chosen leaders, and you and Ins have chosen as well. Not sure about Galz and mith, and Qvist has just chimed in that he and Davio haven't yet.
I've updated the summary above to include debt. Please check for mistakes.
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We've got our leaders.
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Oops, forgot about the leaders. Davio, come discuss.
We're just waiting on you guys then.
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Qvist can lock it in if he's ready.
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Ready
We both use a leader to build a Wonder Stage.
I get to see the discard.
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Oh man, more things to delay on. :P
As a reminder to everyone about what cards have been discarded:
Insom discards in I4.
Galz discards in I6.
8 cards discarded for each player at the end of Age I.
Qvist discards in II4.
Tables discards in II5.
mith discards in II5.
Qvist discards in II6.
Galz discards in II6.
8 cards discarded for each player at the end of Age II.
So there are currently 10 Age I cards and 13 Age II cards in the discard.
Qvist, you should already know 6 cards in the discard from you and Davio.
Tables/Ins, you need to send a list of 6 cards.
Galz/mith you need to send a list of 7 cards.
Watno and I will be sending 4 cards.
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I've sent our discarded cards to Qvist (and Davio too).
Watno plays Justinian: 3 VPs per set of green, red and blue cards. Cost: 3 Coins.
eHalcyon plays Midas: 1 VP per three coins owned. Cost: 3 Coins.
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Have you guys sent your discards to Qvist/Davio?
You can post your leader actions too, because Qvist should have that info before he decides on his discard build.
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Right.
Tables discards for 3 coins
Insomniac plays Solomon
Yeah, we need the discards as well. Shoot us now. Qvist goes first, but there's not really any reason to not send us both the discard - Qvist has to build something face up after all.
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OK, sent to you too.
I don't understand why you are building up so much money. If I didn't have it myself, I would have thought you had Midas.
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I'll get to this tonight if mith doesn't beat me to it.
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Building up money? Nah, just hands where the best option is to discard. Every time.
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Building up money? Nah, just hands where the best option is to discard. Every time.
Ouch.
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What's happening folks? Surely we can finish this within the day? :P
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Qvist and Tables each get the discards? And that's 3 discards for mith and myself, plus the 4 cards we didn't play (combined) at the end of Age I and Age II, correct?
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Qvist and Tables each get the discards? And that's 3 discards for mith and myself, plus the 4 cards we didn't play (combined) at the end of Age I and Age II, correct?
Yeah, your combined list is 7 cards.
Technically it's Qvist and Ins, but might as well send it to Davio and Tables as well. Partners are partners!
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Sent. Mith, if I made a mistake just send the correction to Qvist/Insomniac, but I think we're good.
Galzria plays: Amytis: 2 VPs per Wonder stage built.. Cost: 4 Coins.
Mith plays: Ramses: All purple cards can be played for free. Cost: 3 Coins.
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Sent. Mith, if I made a mistake just send the correction to Qvist/Insomniac, but I think we're good.
Galzria plays: Amytis: 2 VPs per Wonder stage built.. Cost: 4 Coins.
Mith plays: Ramses: All purple cards can be played for free. Cost: 3 Coins.
Booooooo. Did you have Amytis in your starting hand? You should have passed her (him?) to me!
And I guess I better build all the purples before letting them get to mith. ;)
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Sent. Mith, if I made a mistake just send the correction to Qvist/Insomniac, but I think we're good.
Galzria plays: Amytis: 2 VPs per Wonder stage built.. Cost: 4 Coins.
Mith plays: Ramses: All purple cards can be played for free. Cost: 3 Coins.
Booooooo. Did you have Amytis in your starting hand? You should have passed her (him?) to me!
And I guess I better build all the purples before letting them get to mith. ;)
Bilkis was my first choice. Amytis was my second and came from Tables.
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By the way, I'm disappointed that you got your quarry. I totally would have blocked that from you if it were in my power (or build it myself so that you'd have to pay me for that precious Stone). :P
Watno and I were totally manipulative, like, there was this:
One other thing is that Galz needs 2 Brick for his first wonder stage and 2 Wood for his second. With Bilkis, he takes care of 1 of each. He can pay Ins for Wood. He has no Clay right now. So if I build it now, he can't get it until he receives the hand you are holding right now. And that's not going to happen, so mith would probably build the Clay Pool, which would give me access to 3 Brick!
I counted on mith to build Clay Pool so that I would have access to it. I ended up getting Caravansery though so it didn't matter in the end. :P
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I believe we have all discards now, we'll probably have to do some actual thinking so sorry for the delay. Other delays are mostly caused by different login times. :)
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I've looked at all my choices. I have to discuss this now with Davio, sorry.
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Very curious what the other discarded cards were now. Usually when I play Hali there is a pretty clear choice of what is best.
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Just waiting now for tables to confirm.
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Just waiting now for tables to confirm.
Make sure you have a backup in case Qvist takes your first choice!
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Confirm. But we need to wait for Qvist
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Qvist/Davio?
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I play Brickyard. Sorry for the wait, I was away this weekend.
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Insomn plays Workshop
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And now we need Kuildeous to deal out age III, yes?
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Yeas, Kuild, we're ready for you.
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Qvist builds Wonder stage 2. Qvist builds Brickyard.
Davio pays $14 to build Wonder stage 2.
Tables discards for 3 coins.
Insomniac pays $3 to build Solomon: Look through the discard pile and build a card for free. Insomniac builds Workshop.
Galzria pays $4 and plays: Amytis: 2 VPs per Wonder stage built.
Mith pays $3 $5 and plays Ramses: All purple cards can be played for free.
eHalcyon pays $3 and plays Midas: 1 VP per three coins owned.
Watno pays $3 and plays Justinian: 3 VPs per set of green, red and blue cards.
Edit note: Ramses was mistakenly written down as costing $3 when it should be $5. mith is content to abide by this. To do so, he would have taken 2 debt from Davio's wonder build at the end of Age II.
Qvist as the Mausoleum of Halikarnassos (A)
Coins: 3
Debt: 1
Strength: 3
Military Tokens: -none-, Total: 0 VP
Wonder stages built: 2
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: 2 Brick
(2) Look through the discard pile and build a card for free. Cost: 3 Ore
(3) 7 VPs. Cost: 2 Cloth
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Cloth
Loom: Produce Cloth
Mine: Produce Ore/Stone
Ore Vein: Produce Ore
Brickyard: Produce 2 Brick
Caravansery: Produce Brick/Stone/Ore/Wood. Chain from: Marketplace. Chain to: Lighthouse.
Gambling Den: 6 Coins. Each neighbour gets 1 coin.
Clandestine Dock West: Once per turn, pay one less coin to buy resources from your left (Watno).
Altar: 2 VPs. Chain to: Temple.
Stockade: 1 Shield.
Walls: 2 Shields. Chain to: Fortifications.
Nero: Gain 2 coins for each victory token you earn.
Cleopatra: 5 VPs.
Davio as the Al-Khazneh of Petra (B)
Coins: 6
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Military Tokens: 4x -1, Total: -4 VP
Wonder stages built: 2
(1) 3 VPs, everyone elses loses 2 coins. Cost: 2 Brick, 2 Ore
(2) 14 VPs. Cost: 14 Coins
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Brick
Tree Farm: Produce Wood/Brick
Stone Pit: Produce Stone
Marketplace: Manufactured Goods cost 1 to buy from both sides
East Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the right (Tables). Chain to: Forum.
West Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the left (Qvist). Chain to: Forum.
Caravansery: Produce Brick/Stone/Ore/Wood. Chain from: Marketplace. Chain to: Lighthouse.
Forum: Produce Cloth/Glass/Paper. Chain from: West/East Trading Post.
Bazaar: 2 Coins per gray card in yours+neighbours cities.
Clandestine Dock East: Once per turn, pay one less coin to buy resources from your right (Tables).
Aqueduct: 5 VPs. Chain from: Baths.
Courthouse: 4VPs. Chain from: Scriptorium.
Xenophon: Gain 2 coins for each yellow card you play.
Phidias: 1 VP per brown card.
Tables as the Colossus of Rhodes (B)
Coins: 19
Debt: 0
Strength: 5
Military Tokens: 2x +1, 2x +3, Total: 8 VP
Wonder stages built: 1
(1) 1 Shield, 3 VPs, 3 Coins. Cost: 3 Stone
(2) 1 Shield, 4 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: 4 Ore
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Ore
Forest Cave: Produce Wood/Ore.
Excavation: Produce Stone/Brick.
Stone Pit: Produce Stone
Foundry: Produce 2 Ore
Secret Warehouse: Produce any one resource that you already produce.
Forum: Produce Cloth/Glass/Paper. Chain from: West/East Trading Post. Chain to: Haven.
Gambling House: 9 Coins. Each neighbour gets 2 coins.
Statue: 4 VPs. Chain from: Theater. Chain to: Gardens.
Guard Tower: 1 Shield. Cost: Brick.
Stables: 2 Shields. Chain from: Apothecary.
Hannibal: 1 Shield.
Zenobia: 3 VPs.
Insomniac as the Temple of Artemis at Ephesos (B)
Coins: 3
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Military Tokens: 4x -1, Total: -4 VP
Wonder stages built: 3
(1) 2 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: 2 Stone
(2) 3 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: 2 Wood
(3) 5 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: Papyrus, Cloth, Glass
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Papyrus
Glassworks: Produce Glass
Loom: Produce Cloth
Lumber Yard: Produce Wood
Tavern: 5 Coins.
Bazaar: 2 Coins per gray card in yours+neighbours cities.
Baths: 3 VPs. Chain to: Aqueduct.
School: Tablet. Chain to: Academy & Study.
Dispensary: Compasses. Chain from: Apothecary. Chain to: Arena & Lodge.
Workshop: Gear. Chain to: Archery Range & Laboratory.
Aristotle: 3 VPs per science set.
Euclid: Compass.
Solomon: Look through the discard pile and build a card for free.
Galzria as the Lighthouse of Alexandria (B)
Coins: 1
Debt: 2
Strength: 5
Military Tokens: 2x +1, 2x +3, Total: 8 VP
Wonder stages built: 2
(1) Produce one raw material. Cost: 2 Brick
(2) Produce one manufactured good. Cost: 2 Wood
(3) 7 VPs. Cost: 3 Stone
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Glass
Wonder Stage 1: Brick/Stone/Ore/Wood
Wonder Stage 2: Cloth/Glass/Paper
Loom: Produce Cloth
Quarry: Produce two Stone.
Tavern: 5 Coins
Scriptorium: Tablet. Chain to: Courthouse & Library.
Barracks: 1 Shield.
Guard Tower: 1 Shield.
Mercenaries: 3 Shields
Temple: 3 VPs. Chain from: Altar. Chain to: Pantheon.
Bilkis: Once per turn, may pay 1 coin to the bank to generate any one resource.
Caligula: Once per age, build a black card for free.
Amytis: 2 VPs per Wonder stage built.
mith as the Hagia Sophia of Byzantium (B)
Coins: 0
Debt: 4
Strength: 0
Military Tokens: 3x -1, Total: -3 VP
Wonder stages built: 1
(1) 3 VPs, diplomacy. Cost: Paper, Glass, Wood, Ore
(2) 4 VPs, diplomacy. Cost: Cloth, Brick, 2 Ore
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Stone
Clay Pool: Produce Brick
Black Market: Produce one resource you currently do not produce.
Tavern: 5 Coins
East Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the right (eHalcyon). Chain to: Forum.
Vineyard: 1 Coin per brown card in yours+neighbours cities.
Scriptorium: Tablet. Chain to: Courthouse & Library.
Workshop: Gear. Chain to: Archery Range & Laboratory.
Library: Tablet. Chain from: Scriptorium. Chain to: Senate & University.
School: Tablet. Chain to: Academy & Study.
Pigeon Loft: Copy a science symbol on a green card on your left or right.
Archimedes: Green cards cost 1 resource less.
Varro: 1 VP per yellow card.
Ramses: All purple cards can be played for free.
eHalcyon as the Pyramids of Gizah (B)
Coins: 7
Debt: 0
Strength: 4
Military Tokens: 2x +1, 1x +3, Total: 5 VP
Wonder stages built: 4
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: 2 Wood
(2) 5 VPs. Cost: 3 Stone
(3) 5 VPs. Cost: 3 Brick
(4) 7 VPs. Cost: Papyrus, 4 Stone
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Stone
Timber Yard: Produce Stone/Wood
Clay Pit: Produce Brick/Ore.
Clay Pool: Produce Brick.
Glassworks: Produce Glass.
Loom: Produce Cloth.
Caravansery: Produce Brick/Stone/Ore/Wood. Chain from: Marketplace. Chain to: Lighthouse.
Militia: 2 Shields.
Archery Range: 2 Shields. Chain from: Workshop.
Lair: 3 VPs, everyone else loses 2 coins.
Diocletian: Gain 2 coins for each black card you play.
Midas: 1 VP per three coins owned.
Watno as the Statue of Zeus at Olympia (A)
Coins: 4
Debt: 0
Strength: 3
Military Tokens: -none-, Total: 0 VP
Wonder stages built: 1
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: 2 Wood
(2) 1 free build per age. Cost: 2 Stone
(3) 7 VPs. Cost: 2 Ore
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Wood
Press: Produce Papyrus.
West Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the left (eHalcyon). Chain to: Forum.
Forum: Produce Cloth/Glass/Paper. Chain from: West/East Trading Post. Chain to: Haven.
Vineyard: 1 Coin per brown card in yours+neighbours' cities.
Baths: 3 VPs. Chain to: Aqueduct.
Temple: 3 VPs. Chain from: Altar. Chain to: Pantheon.
Apothecary: Compasses. Chain to: Stables & Dispensary.
Laboratory: Gear. Chain from: Workshop. Chain to: Siege Workshop & Observatory.
Library: Tablet. Chain from: Scriptorium. Chain to: Senate & University.
Stockade: 1 Shield.
Archery Range: 2 Shields. Chain from: Workshop.
Croesus: Take 6 coins.
Vitruvius: Gain 2 coins each time you build a card through chaining.
Justinian: 3 VPs per set of green, red and blue cards.
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Um, I'm afraid I have found a big mistake. Ramses does not cost $3, as was copied in the OP -- it costs $5. Obviously this is a huge hit to mith and Galzria's strategy. I don't mind continuing as is, but we should correct that mistake for future games.
Edit: OTOH, mith could still build Ramses at $5, though it requires taking 2 debt.
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Whoops, my bad. Continue as is, I think. It's an annoyance but probably not game breaking, and they took it under the belief it would cost 3 coins.
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It's only really game breaking if that 2VP matters, and it probably won't. I'm fine with continuing as is.
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I see that there will be some shuffling needed.
I probably won't get to it until Wednesday, but I'll see what I can do.
Do remind me what I throw into the mix, though. Ten purple cards? Six black cards? I'm trying to figure it out without a rulebook.
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I see that there will be some shuffling needed.
I probably won't get to it until Wednesday, but I'll see what I can do.
Do remind me what I throw into the mix, though. Ten purple cards? Six black cards? I'm trying to figure it out without a rulebook.
I think it's 9 purple, 7 black.
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That's correct, it brings the total to 56 cards, that's 7 per player.
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Yeah, 9 and 7. It's P+2 guilds, P black cards for P players, except you set up an 8 player game as though it were a 7 player game.
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Hands have been sent.
I forgot to include teammates. I apologize for that.
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Sad about some of the things I have to pass. Well, mainly one of the things.
Watno and I have chosen.
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I've posted my hand and thoughts in our QT. Waiting to hear from mith on what he's holding, and his thoughts on my stuff.
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Let's gooooo guys. Let's finish this before the end of summer. ;)
(Davio/Qvist probably haven't even seen their cards yet. TIME ZONES!)
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I have, will decide today.
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We've decided!
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Guuuuh! I don't know what to do! :-/
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Alright, just waiting on Mith to decide for certain now.
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Alright, just waiting on Mith to decide for certain now.
My entire hand is guilds, btw.
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Alright, just waiting on Mith to decide for certain now.
My entire hand is guilds, btw.
I hope I'm not the only one who assumed he meant his entire hand is cards from Dominon: Guilds before stopping and thinking.
Also Insomn, hand plz?
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We're ready.
And just give me the 2 debt, the change in cost wouldn't have affected my decisions.
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We're ready.
And just give me the 2 debt, the change in cost wouldn't have affected my decisions.
OK, done.
Tables, Ins? We're just waiting on you now.
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Yep. Ins, confirm?
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Insomn builds the University, paying Tables 2 coins
Tables builds the Capitol, paying Davio 2 coins for Stone and Insomn 2 coins for Glass (and 2 coins to the bank)
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Diocletian is sad that his Capitol is gone.
eHalcyon builds Arena, getting $12.
Watno chains Temple to Pantheon, getting $2 from Vitruvius.
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Galzria Uses a card to build Wonder Stage 3
Mith Burns a card for Coin
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Galzria Uses a card to build Wonder Stage 3
Mith Burns a card for Coin
Interesting...
I guess I shouldn't send you your cards yet, just in case Qvist or Davio builds one of the debt cards.
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We don't.
Qvist plays Fortifications: 3 Shields. Chain from: Walls
Davio plays Lighthouse: 1 Coin & 1 VP per yellow card (including this). Chain from: Caravansery, giving him 7+2 (Xenophon) = 9 Coins
To quote some earlier games: Moar monies!!! ;D
Well, you know how Petra is in the middle of desert, so I figured a Lighthouse would be very useful. I plan to turn it into a big Spiral Slide eventually...
(http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090829004129/rct/images/5/51/SpiralSlide.jpg)
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Edit: moved to next page.
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Qvist builds Fortifications, chaining from Walls.
Davio plays Lighthouse, chaining from Caravansery, getting $7 + $2 from Xenophon.
Tables builds the Capitol, paying Davio $2 for Stone, Ins $2 for Glass, and $2 to the bank.
Insomniac builds the University, paying $2 to Tables for Wood.
Galzria builds wonder stage 3.
Mith discards for $3.
eHalcyon builds Arena, getting $12.
Watno builds Pantheon, chaining from Temple, getting $2 from Vitruvius.
Qvist as the Mausoleum of Halikarnassos (A)
Coins: 3
Debt: 1
Strength: 6
Military Tokens: -none-, Total: 0 VP
Wonder stages built: 2
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: 2 Brick
(2) Look through the discard pile and build a card for free. Cost: 3 Ore
(3) 7 VPs. Cost: 2 Cloth
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Cloth
Loom: Produce Cloth
Mine: Produce Ore/Stone
Ore Vein: Produce Ore
Brickyard: Produce 2 Brick
Caravansery: Produce Brick/Stone/Ore/Wood. Chain from: Marketplace. Chain to: Lighthouse.
Gambling Den: 6 Coins. Each neighbour gets 1 coin.
Clandestine Dock West: Once per turn, pay one less coin to buy resources from your left (Watno).
Altar: 2 VPs. Chain to: Temple.
Stockade: 1 Shield.
Walls: 2 Shields. Chain to: Fortifications.
Fortifications: 3 Shields. Chain from: Walls.
Nero: Gain 2 coins for each victory token you earn.
Cleopatra: 5 VPs.
Davio as the Al-Khazneh of Petra (B)
Coins: 17
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Military Tokens: 4x -1, Total: -4 VP
Wonder stages built: 2
(1) 3 VPs, everyone elses loses 2 coins. Cost: 2 Brick, 2 Ore
(2) 14 VPs. Cost: 14 Coins
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Brick
Tree Farm: Produce Wood/Brick
Stone Pit: Produce Stone
Marketplace: Manufactured Goods cost 1 to buy from both sides
East Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the right (Tables). Chain to: Forum.
West Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the left (Qvist). Chain to: Forum.
Caravansery: Produce Brick/Stone/Ore/Wood. Chain from: Marketplace. Chain to: Lighthouse.
Forum: Produce Cloth/Glass/Paper. Chain from: West/East Trading Post.
Bazaar: 2 Coins per gray card in yours+neighbours cities.
Lighthouse: 1 Coin & 1 VP per yellow card (including this). Chain from: Caravansery.
Clandestine Dock East: Once per turn, pay one less coin to buy resources from your right (Tables).
Aqueduct: 5 VPs. Chain from: Baths.
Courthouse: 4VPs. Chain from: Scriptorium.
Xenophon: Gain 2 coins for each yellow card you play.
Phidias: 1 VP per brown card.
Tables as the Colossus of Rhodes (B)
Coins: 15
Debt: 0
Strength: 5
Military Tokens: 2x +1, 2x +3, Total: 8 VP
Wonder stages built: 1
(1) 1 Shield, 3 VPs, 3 Coins. Cost: 3 Stone
(2) 1 Shield, 4 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: 4 Ore
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Ore
Forest Cave: Produce Wood/Ore.
Excavation: Produce Stone/Brick.
Stone Pit: Produce Stone
Foundry: Produce 2 Ore
Secret Warehouse: Produce any one resource that you already produce.
Forum: Produce Cloth/Glass/Paper. Chain from: West/East Trading Post. Chain to: Haven.
Gambling House: 9 Coins. Each neighbour gets 2 coins.
Capitol: 8 VPs.
Statue: 4 VPs. Chain from: Theater. Chain to: Gardens.
Guard Tower: 1 Shield. Cost: Brick.
Stables: 2 Shields. Chain from: Apothecary.
Hannibal: 1 Shield.
Zenobia: 3 VPs.
Insomniac as the Temple of Artemis at Ephesos (B)
Coins: 3
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Military Tokens: 4x -1, Total: -4 VP
Wonder stages built: 3
(1) 2 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: 2 Stone
(2) 3 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: 2 Wood
(3) 5 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: Papyrus, Cloth, Glass
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Papyrus
Glassworks: Produce Glass
Loom: Produce Cloth
Lumber Yard: Produce Wood
Tavern: 5 Coins.
Bazaar: 2 Coins per gray card in yours+neighbours cities.
Baths: 3 VPs. Chain to: Aqueduct.
School: Tablet. Chain to: Academy & Study.
Dispensary: Compasses. Chain from: Apothecary. Chain to: Arena & Lodge.
Workshop: Gear. Chain to: Archery Range & Laboratory.
University: Tablet. Chain from: Library.
Aristotle: 3 VPs per science set.
Euclid: Compass.
Solomon: Look through the discard pile and build a card for free.
Galzria as the Lighthouse of Alexandria (B)
Coins: 1
Debt: 2
Strength: 5
Military Tokens: 2x +1, 2x +3, Total: 8 VP
Wonder stages built: 3
(1) Produce one raw material. Cost: 2 Brick
(2) Produce one manufactured good. Cost: 2 Wood
(3) 7 VPs. Cost: 3 Stone
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Glass
Wonder Stage 1: Brick/Stone/Ore/Wood
Wonder Stage 2: Cloth/Glass/Paper
Loom: Produce Cloth
Quarry: Produce two Stone.
Tavern: 5 Coins
Scriptorium: Tablet. Chain to: Courthouse & Library.
Barracks: 1 Shield.
Guard Tower: 1 Shield.
Mercenaries: 3 Shields
Temple: 3 VPs. Chain from: Altar. Chain to: Pantheon.
Bilkis: Once per turn, may pay 1 coin to the bank to generate any one resource.
Caligula: Once per age, build a black card for free.
Amytis: 2 VPs per Wonder stage built.
mith as the Hagia Sophia of Byzantium (B)
Coins: 3
Debt: 4
Strength: 0
Military Tokens: 3x -1, Total: -3 VP
Wonder stages built: 1
(1) 3 VPs, diplomacy. Cost: Paper, Glass, Wood, Ore
(2) 4 VPs, diplomacy. Cost: Cloth, Brick, 2 Ore
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Stone
Clay Pool: Produce Brick
Black Market: Produce one resource you currently do not produce.
Tavern: 5 Coins
East Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the right (eHalcyon). Chain to: Forum.
Vineyard: 1 Coin per brown card in yours+neighbours cities.
Scriptorium: Tablet. Chain to: Courthouse & Library.
Workshop: Gear. Chain to: Archery Range & Laboratory.
Library: Tablet. Chain from: Scriptorium. Chain to: Senate & University.
School: Tablet. Chain to: Academy & Study.
Pigeon Loft: Copy a science symbol on a green card on your left or right.
Archimedes: Green cards cost 1 resource less.
Varro: 1 VP per yellow card.
Ramses: All purple cards can be played for free.
eHalcyon as the Pyramids of Gizah (B)
Coins: 19
Debt: 0
Strength: 4
Military Tokens: 2x +1, 1x +3, Total: 5 VP
Wonder stages built: 4
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: 2 Wood
(2) 5 VPs. Cost: 3 Stone
(3) 5 VPs. Cost: 3 Brick
(4) 7 VPs. Cost: Papyrus, 4 Stone
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Stone
Timber Yard: Produce Stone/Wood
Clay Pit: Produce Brick/Ore.
Clay Pool: Produce Brick.
Glassworks: Produce Glass.
Loom: Produce Cloth.
Caravansery: Produce Brick/Stone/Ore/Wood. Chain from: Marketplace. Chain to: Lighthouse.
Arena: 3 Coins & 1 VP per wonder stage completed. Chain from: Dispensary.
Militia: 2 Shields.
Archery Range: 2 Shields. Chain from: Workshop.
Lair: 3 VPs, everyone else loses 2 coins.
Diocletian: Gain 2 coins for each black card you play.
Midas: 1 VP per three coins owned.
Watno as the Statue of Zeus at Olympia (A)
Coins: 6
Debt: 0
Strength: 3
Military Tokens: -none-, Total: 0 VP
Wonder stages built: 1
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: 2 Wood
(2) 1 free build per age. Cost: 2 Stone
(3) 7 VPs. Cost: 2 Ore
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Wood
Press: Produce Papyrus.
West Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the left (eHalcyon). Chain to: Forum.
Forum: Produce Cloth/Glass/Paper. Chain from: West/East Trading Post. Chain to: Haven.
Vineyard: 1 Coin per brown card in yours+neighbours' cities.
Baths: 3 VPs. Chain to: Aqueduct.
Temple: 3 VPs. Chain from: Altar. Chain to: Pantheon.
Pantheon: 7 VPs. Chain from: Temple.
Apothecary: Compasses. Chain to: Stables & Dispensary.
Laboratory: Gear. Chain from: Workshop. Chain to: Siege Workshop & Observatory.
Library: Tablet. Chain from: Scriptorium. Chain to: Senate & University.
Stockade: 1 Shield.
Archery Range: 2 Shields. Chain from: Workshop.
Croesus: Take 6 coins.
Vitruvius: Gain 2 coins each time you build a card through chaining.
Justinian: 3 VPs per set of green, red and blue cards.
Please check above for mistakes. I sent my hand to Galz and mith. Everyone else please forward hands as appropriate, if you haven't already. :)
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I've got my card. Some thoughts for you in the QT, Watno.
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Qvist (Halikarnassos):
Davio (Petra):
Tables (Rhodes):
Insomniac (Ephesos):
Galzria (Alexandria):
mith (Byzantium):
eHalcyon (Giza): DONE
Watno (Olympia): DONE
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We haven't received our next hand yet.
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Watno and I have both chosen now.
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Does everyone have their hands yet?
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We haven't received our next hand yet.
Sorry, I'll send it on tonight. Been a crazy week. I've forgotten lots of stuff I've been supposed to do. :P
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So...?
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I sent it! Really I did!
He's probably waiting on Insomniac, but lots of people are MIA over the holiday.
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Americans!
Have others made choices though? Have you, Galz (and mith)?
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Americans!
Have others made choices though? Have you, Galz (and mith)?
Actually, now that you mention it, I haven't yet heard from Mith. Although my choice was easy, we knew what it was going to be last round.
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Qvist (Halikarnassos):
Davio (Petra):
Tables (Rhodes): DONE
Insomniac (Ephesos): DONE
Galzria (Alexandria):
mith (Byzantium):
eHalcyon (Giza): DONE
Watno (Olympia): DONE
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Qvist (Halikarnassos): DONE
Davio (Petra): DONE
Tables (Rhodes): DONE
Insomniac (Ephesos): DONE
Galzria (Alexandria):
mith (Byzantium):
eHalcyon (Giza): DONE
Watno (Olympia): DONE
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So, anything from mith? I know your hand. I think the choice is pretty clear.
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It's a choice between a couple of cards. We're deciding which we like best.
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It's a choice between a couple of cards. We're deciding which we like best.
I guess there are a few options. :P
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Still waiting on a decision.
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Galzria builds Arena
mith builds Guild of Shadows
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Well that's a surprise. Will be interested to read your reasoning in the QT.
eHalcyon builds Gamers Guild.
Watno builds Arsenal, paying $2 to eHalcyon for Ore and Wood.
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Guild of Shadows: 1 VP per black card in each of your neighbours cities. Cost: 2 Brick, Wood, Papyrus.
Arena: 3 Coins & 1 VP per wonder stage completed. Chain from: Dispensary. Cost: Ore, 2 Stone.
For easy reference. Arena I can build at cost, Shadows mith builds using Ramses.
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Ins builds the Chamber of Commerce
Tables builds the Slave Market, getting 4 coins
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Ins builds the Chamber of Commerce
Tables builds the Slave Market, getting 4 coins
I don't think Ins can build CoC. He doesn't have 2 Brick and doesn't have enough money to buy them.
Edit: And he only has access to one from you.
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Qvist uses a card to build his 3rd wonder stage
Davio builds Spies Guild: 1 VP per red card in each of your neighbours cities. Cost: 3 Brick, Glass.
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Sent hand to mith/Galz. Received hand from Davio/Qvist.
Still need to know what Ins is doing...
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Yeah you're right, I must have overlooked the cost. Guess he has to discard for 3 coins then.
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Yeah you're right, I must have overlooked the cost. Guess he has to discard for 3 coins then.
Yup, them's the rules.
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As always, please check for mistakes. And send your hands if you haven't!
Qvist builds his third wonder stage.
Davio builds the Spies Guild.
Tables builds the Slave Market, getting $4.
Insomniac discards for $3.
Galzria builds Arena, getting $9.
Mith builds Guild of Shadows (via Ramses).
eHalcyon builds Gamers Guild.
Watno builds Arsenal, paying $2 to eHalcyon for Ore and Wood.
Qvist as the Mausoleum of Halikarnassos (A)
Coins: 3
Debt: 1
Strength: 6
Military Tokens: -none-, Total: 0 VP
Wonder stages built: 3
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: 2 Brick
(2) Look through the discard pile and build a card for free. Cost: 3 Ore
(3) 7 VPs. Cost: 2 Cloth
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Cloth
Loom: Produce Cloth
Mine: Produce Ore/Stone
Ore Vein: Produce Ore
Brickyard: Produce 2 Brick
Caravansery: Produce Brick/Stone/Ore/Wood. Chain from: Marketplace. Chain to: Lighthouse.
Gambling Den: 6 Coins. Each neighbour gets 1 coin.
Clandestine Dock West: Once per turn, pay one less coin to buy resources from your left (Watno).
Altar: 2 VPs. Chain to: Temple.
Stockade: 1 Shield.
Walls: 2 Shields. Chain to: Fortifications.
Fortifications: 3 Shields. Chain from: Walls.
Nero: Gain 2 coins for each victory token you earn.
Cleopatra: 5 VPs.
Davio as the Al-Khazneh of Petra (B)
Coins: 17
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Military Tokens: 4x -1, Total: -4 VP
Wonder stages built: 2
(1) 3 VPs, everyone elses loses 2 coins. Cost: 2 Brick, 2 Ore
(2) 14 VPs. Cost: 14 Coins
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Brick
Tree Farm: Produce Wood/Brick
Stone Pit: Produce Stone
Marketplace: Manufactured Goods cost 1 to buy from both sides
East Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the right (Tables). Chain to: Forum.
West Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the left (Qvist). Chain to: Forum.
Caravansery: Produce Brick/Stone/Ore/Wood. Chain from: Marketplace. Chain to: Lighthouse.
Forum: Produce Cloth/Glass/Paper. Chain from: West/East Trading Post.
Bazaar: 2 Coins per gray card in yours+neighbours cities.
Lighthouse: 1 Coin & 1 VP per yellow card (including this). Chain from: Caravansery.
Clandestine Dock East: Once per turn, pay one less coin to buy resources from your right (Tables).
Aqueduct: 5 VPs. Chain from: Baths.
Courthouse: 4VPs. Chain from: Scriptorium.
Spies Guild: 1 VP per red card in each of your neighbours cities.
Xenophon: Gain 2 coins for each yellow card you play.
Phidias: 1 VP per brown card.
Tables as the Colossus of Rhodes (B)
Coins: 19
Debt: 0
Strength: 5
Military Tokens: 2x +1, 2x +3, Total: 8 VP
Wonder stages built: 1
(1) 1 Shield, 3 VPs, 3 Coins. Cost: 3 Stone
(2) 1 Shield, 4 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: 4 Ore
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Ore
Forest Cave: Produce Wood/Ore.
Excavation: Produce Stone/Brick.
Stone Pit: Produce Stone
Foundry: Produce 2 Ore
Secret Warehouse: Produce any one resource that you already produce.
Forum: Produce Cloth/Glass/Paper. Chain from: West/East Trading Post. Chain to: Haven.
Gambling House: 9 Coins. Each neighbour gets 2 coins.
Capitol: 8 VPs.
Slave Market: 1 Coin & 1 VP per victory token.
Statue: 4 VPs. Chain from: Theater. Chain to: Gardens.
Guard Tower: 1 Shield. Cost: Brick.
Stables: 2 Shields. Chain from: Apothecary.
Hannibal: 1 Shield.
Zenobia: 3 VPs.
Insomniac as the Temple of Artemis at Ephesos (B)
Coins: 6
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Military Tokens: 4x -1, Total: -4 VP
Wonder stages built: 3
(1) 2 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: 2 Stone
(2) 3 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: 2 Wood
(3) 5 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: Papyrus, Cloth, Glass
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Papyrus
Glassworks: Produce Glass
Loom: Produce Cloth
Lumber Yard: Produce Wood
Tavern: 5 Coins.
Bazaar: 2 Coins per gray card in yours+neighbours cities.
Baths: 3 VPs. Chain to: Aqueduct.
School: Tablet. Chain to: Academy & Study.
Dispensary: Compasses. Chain from: Apothecary. Chain to: Arena & Lodge.
Workshop: Gear. Chain to: Archery Range & Laboratory.
University: Tablet. Chain from: Library.
Aristotle: 3 VPs per science set.
Euclid: Compass.
Solomon: Look through the discard pile and build a card for free.
Galzria as the Lighthouse of Alexandria (B)
Coins: 10
Debt: 2
Strength: 5
Military Tokens: 2x +1, 2x +3, Total: 8 VP
Wonder stages built: 3
(1) Produce one raw material. Cost: 2 Brick
(2) Produce one manufactured good. Cost: 2 Wood
(3) 7 VPs. Cost: 3 Stone
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Glass
Wonder Stage 1: Brick/Stone/Ore/Wood
Wonder Stage 2: Cloth/Glass/Paper
Loom: Produce Cloth
Quarry: Produce two Stone.
Tavern: 5 Coins
Arena: 3 Coins & 1 VP per wonder stage completed.
Scriptorium: Tablet. Chain to: Courthouse & Library.
Barracks: 1 Shield.
Guard Tower: 1 Shield.
Mercenaries: 3 Shields
Temple: 3 VPs. Chain from: Altar. Chain to: Pantheon.
Bilkis: Once per turn, may pay 1 coin to the bank to generate any one resource.
Caligula: Once per age, build a black card for free.
Amytis: 2 VPs per Wonder stage built.
mith as the Hagia Sophia of Byzantium (B)
Coins: 3
Debt: 4
Strength: 0
Military Tokens: 3x -1, Total: -3 VP
Wonder stages built: 1
(1) 3 VPs, diplomacy. Cost: Paper, Glass, Wood, Ore
(2) 4 VPs, diplomacy. Cost: Cloth, Brick, 2 Ore
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Stone
Clay Pool: Produce Brick
Black Market: Produce one resource you currently do not produce.
Tavern: 5 Coins
East Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the right (eHalcyon). Chain to: Forum.
Vineyard: 1 Coin per brown card in yours+neighbours cities.
Scriptorium: Tablet. Chain to: Courthouse & Library.
Workshop: Gear. Chain to: Archery Range & Laboratory.
Library: Tablet. Chain from: Scriptorium. Chain to: Senate & University.
School: Tablet. Chain to: Academy & Study.
Pigeon Loft: Copy a science symbol on a green card on your left or right.
Guild of Shadows: 1 VP per black card in each of your neighbours cities.
Archimedes: Green cards cost 1 resource less.
Varro: 1 VP per yellow card.
Ramses: All purple cards can be played for free.
eHalcyon as the Pyramids of Gizah (B)
Coins: 21
Debt: 0
Strength: 4
Military Tokens: 2x +1, 1x +3, Total: 5 VP
Wonder stages built: 4
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: 2 Wood
(2) 5 VPs. Cost: 3 Stone
(3) 5 VPs. Cost: 3 Brick
(4) 7 VPs. Cost: Papyrus, 4 Stone
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Stone
Timber Yard: Produce Stone/Wood
Clay Pit: Produce Brick/Ore.
Clay Pool: Produce Brick.
Glassworks: Produce Glass.
Loom: Produce Cloth.
Caravansery: Produce Brick/Stone/Ore/Wood. Chain from: Marketplace. Chain to: Lighthouse.
Arena: 3 Coins & 1 VP per wonder stage completed. Chain from: Dispensary.
Militia: 2 Shields.
Archery Range: 2 Shields. Chain from: Workshop.
Lair: 3 VPs, everyone else loses 2 coins.
Gamer's Guild: 1 VP per three coins owned.
Diocletian: Gain 2 coins for each black card you play.
Midas: 1 VP per three coins owned.
Watno as the Statue of Zeus at Olympia (A)
Coins: 4
Debt: 0
Strength: 6
Military Tokens: -none-, Total: 0 VP
Wonder stages built: 1
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: 2 Wood
(2) 1 free build per age. Cost: 2 Stone
(3) 7 VPs. Cost: 2 Ore
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Wood
Press: Produce Papyrus.
West Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the left (eHalcyon). Chain to: Forum.
Forum: Produce Cloth/Glass/Paper. Chain from: West/East Trading Post. Chain to: Haven.
Vineyard: 1 Coin per brown card in yours+neighbours' cities.
Baths: 3 VPs. Chain to: Aqueduct.
Temple: 3 VPs. Chain from: Altar. Chain to: Pantheon.
Pantheon: 7 VPs. Chain from: Temple.
Apothecary: Compasses. Chain to: Stables & Dispensary.
Laboratory: Gear. Chain from: Workshop. Chain to: Siege Workshop & Observatory.
Library: Tablet. Chain from: Scriptorium. Chain to: Senate & University.
Stockade: 1 Shield.
Archery Range: 2 Shields. Chain from: Workshop.
Arsenal: 3 Shields.
Croesus: Take 6 coins.
Vitruvius: Gain 2 coins each time you build a card through chaining.
Justinian: 3 VPs per set of green, red and blue cards.
Please check above for mistakes. I sent my hand to Galz and mith. Everyone else please forward hands as appropriate, if you haven't already. :)
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Watno and I have chosen.
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How are you guys doing on this?
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Waiting on mith. Both pretty straightforward choices though.
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Qvist seems to be away for a couple of days.
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Yeah, we're ready.
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We're ready.
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Qvist seems to be away for a couple of days.
Do we know when he's coming back? I don't see a post from him in the V/LA thread.
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So does anybody know what's happening with Qvist?
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No... He's been gone 10 days now. We may have to play through without him. Having both choices made by Davio.
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No... He's been gone 10 days now. We may have to play through without him. Having both choices made by Davio.
I'm fine with this. I already made a suggestion in the QT, but didn't get a response.
If I play 1 round without him, he can easily join in later.
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No... He's been gone 10 days now. We may have to play through without him. Having both choices made by Davio.
I'm fine with this. I already made a suggestion in the QT, but didn't get a response.
If I play 1 round without him, he can easily join in later.
So shall we move forward then? If you have your choices...
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Erm let me just check if we have ours (I'm so bad at this)
Edit: We do.
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Consider us chosen.
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So that means everybody is ready then.
eHalcyon builds Brotherhood, getting $2 from Diocletian. Everyone else loses $3 (or takes debt).
Watno chains University from Library, getting $2 from Vitruvius.
And yeah, once again, everyone has to decide whether to pay debt. :P
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Davio builds Embassy: 3 VPs, diplomacy. Cost: Stone, Cloth, Papyrus.
Qvist builds Magistrates Guild: 1 VP per blue card in each of your neighbours cities. Cost: 3 Wood, Stone, Cloth.
Qvist has to make some payments to make this happen, I of course do not.
Qvist pays 1 Coin to Watno for 1 Wood.
Qvist pays 2 Coins to Davio for 1 Wood.
So Qvist has 1 Coin left, I still have a lot.
We can decide on debt after all the cards have been played, right?
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We can decide on debt after all the cards have been played, right?
Yeah, for sure. Everyone reveals simultaneously, then everyone resolves debt. I suppose it's hard to resolve debt simultaneously IRL, so everyone just does it?
Watno and I will wait for the others to reveal their cards before revealing what Watno is doing with debt, though his decision is unlikely to change (I think).
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Debt is always resolved after all cards are resolved and transactions complete.
Insomn builds Observatory paying me 4 coins, I build Palace paying Insomn 4 coins
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Davio, unless I'm missing something, you do not have both Cloth and Papyrus. That means you DO have to pay Qvist (which you probably want to do anyway).
You have a Forum so you can produce Papyrus, and then you can pay Qvist $1 for Cloth.
I think that's the only way you can do it since Tables has no grey, though I doubt you'd want to do it another way if it were available.
Edit: very curious what mith discarded in the first hand. I was thinking it might have been a gear to keep it away from Insomniac, but it appears they let that through...
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Mith chains to:
Senate: 6 VPs. Chain from: Library. Cost: Ore, Stone, 2 Wood.
Galz builds (1 Coin to Bilkis):
Strategists Guild: 1 VP per defeat token in each of your neighbours cities. Cost: 2 Ore, Stone, Cloth.
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Figure out debt!
Qvist builds Magistrates Guild, paying Davio $2 and Watno $1 for 2 Wood.
Davio builds Embassy, paying Qvist $1 for Cloth.
Tables builds Palace, paying Insomniac $4 for 2 commodities.
Insomniac builds Observatory, paying Tables $4 for 2 Ore.
Galzria builds Strategists Guild, paying Bilkis $1 for Ore.
mith chains Senate from Library.
eHalcyon builds Brotherhood, getting $2 from Diocletian. Everyone else loses $3 (or takes debt).
Watno chains University from Library, getting $2 from Vitruvius.
Qvist as the Mausoleum of Halikarnassos (A)
Coins: 1
Debt: 1
Strength: 6
Military Tokens: -none-, Total: 0 VP
Wonder stages built: 3
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: 2 Brick
(2) Look through the discard pile and build a card for free. Cost: 3 Ore
(3) 7 VPs. Cost: 2 Cloth
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Cloth
Loom: Produce Cloth
Mine: Produce Ore/Stone
Ore Vein: Produce Ore
Brickyard: Produce 2 Brick
Caravansery: Produce Brick/Stone/Ore/Wood. Chain from: Marketplace. Chain to: Lighthouse.
Gambling Den: 6 Coins. Each neighbour gets 1 coin.
Clandestine Dock West: Once per turn, pay one less coin to buy resources from your left (Watno).
Altar: 2 VPs. Chain to: Temple.
Stockade: 1 Shield.
Walls: 2 Shields. Chain to: Fortifications.
Fortifications: 3 Shields. Chain from: Walls.
Magistrates Guild: 1 VP per blue card in each of your neighbours cities
Nero: Gain 2 coins for each victory token you earn.
Cleopatra: 5 VPs.
Davio as the Al-Khazneh of Petra (B)
Coins: 18
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Military Tokens: 4x -1, Total: -4 VP
Wonder stages built: 2
(1) 3 VPs, everyone elses loses 2 coins. Cost: 2 Brick, 2 Ore
(2) 14 VPs. Cost: 14 Coins
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Brick
Tree Farm: Produce Wood/Brick
Stone Pit: Produce Stone
Marketplace: Manufactured Goods cost 1 to buy from both sides
East Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the right (Tables). Chain to: Forum.
West Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the left (Qvist). Chain to: Forum.
Caravansery: Produce Brick/Stone/Ore/Wood. Chain from: Marketplace. Chain to: Lighthouse.
Forum: Produce Cloth/Glass/Paper. Chain from: West/East Trading Post.
Bazaar: 2 Coins per gray card in yours+neighbours cities.
Lighthouse: 1 Coin & 1 VP per yellow card (including this). Chain from: Caravansery.
Clandestine Dock East: Once per turn, pay one less coin to buy resources from your right (Tables).
Aqueduct: 5 VPs. Chain from: Baths.
Courthouse: 4VPs. Chain from: Scriptorium.
Embassy: 3 VPs, diplomacy.
Spies Guild: 1 VP per red card in each of your neighbours cities.
Xenophon: Gain 2 coins for each yellow card you play.
Phidias: 1 VP per brown card.
Tables as the Colossus of Rhodes (B)
Coins: 19
Debt: 0
Strength: 5
Military Tokens: 2x +1, 2x +3, Total: 8 VP
Wonder stages built: 1
(1) 1 Shield, 3 VPs, 3 Coins. Cost: 3 Stone
(2) 1 Shield, 4 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: 4 Ore
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Ore
Forest Cave: Produce Wood/Ore.
Excavation: Produce Stone/Brick.
Stone Pit: Produce Stone
Foundry: Produce 2 Ore
Secret Warehouse: Produce any one resource that you already produce.
Forum: Produce Cloth/Glass/Paper. Chain from: West/East Trading Post. Chain to: Haven.
Gambling House: 9 Coins. Each neighbour gets 2 coins.
Capitol: 8 VPs.
Slave Market: 1 Coin & 1 VP per victory token.
Statue: 4 VPs. Chain from: Theater. Chain to: Gardens.
Palace: 8 VPs.
Guard Tower: 1 Shield. Cost: Brick.
Stables: 2 Shields. Chain from: Apothecary.
Hannibal: 1 Shield.
Zenobia: 3 VPs.
Insomniac as the Temple of Artemis at Ephesos (B)
Coins: 6
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Military Tokens: 4x -1, Total: -4 VP
Wonder stages built: 3
(1) 2 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: 2 Stone
(2) 3 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: 2 Wood
(3) 5 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: Papyrus, Cloth, Glass
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Papyrus
Glassworks: Produce Glass
Loom: Produce Cloth
Lumber Yard: Produce Wood
Tavern: 5 Coins.
Bazaar: 2 Coins per gray card in yours+neighbours cities.
Baths: 3 VPs. Chain to: Aqueduct.
School: Tablet. Chain to: Academy & Study.
Dispensary: Compasses. Chain from: Apothecary. Chain to: Arena & Lodge.
Workshop: Gear. Chain to: Archery Range & Laboratory.
University: Tablet. Chain from: Library.
Observatory: Gear. Chain from: Laboratory.
Aristotle: 3 VPs per science set.
Euclid: Compass.
Solomon: Look through the discard pile and build a card for free.
Galzria as the Lighthouse of Alexandria (B)
Coins: 9
Debt: 2
Strength: 5
Military Tokens: 2x +1, 2x +3, Total: 8 VP
Wonder stages built: 3
(1) Produce one raw material. Cost: 2 Brick
(2) Produce one manufactured good. Cost: 2 Wood
(3) 7 VPs. Cost: 3 Stone
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Glass
Wonder Stage 1: Brick/Stone/Ore/Wood
Wonder Stage 2: Cloth/Glass/Paper
Loom: Produce Cloth
Quarry: Produce two Stone.
Tavern: 5 Coins
Arena: 3 Coins & 1 VP per wonder stage completed.
Scriptorium: Tablet. Chain to: Courthouse & Library.
Barracks: 1 Shield.
Guard Tower: 1 Shield.
Mercenaries: 3 Shields
Temple: 3 VPs. Chain from: Altar. Chain to: Pantheon.
Strategists Guild: 1 VP per defeat token in each of your neighbours cities.
Bilkis: Once per turn, may pay 1 coin to the bank to generate any one resource.
Caligula: Once per age, build a black card for free.
Amytis: 2 VPs per Wonder stage built.
mith as the Hagia Sophia of Byzantium (B)
Coins: 3
Debt: 4
Strength: 0
Military Tokens: 3x -1, Total: -3 VP
Wonder stages built: 1
(1) 3 VPs, diplomacy. Cost: Paper, Glass, Wood, Ore
(2) 4 VPs, diplomacy. Cost: Cloth, Brick, 2 Ore
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Stone
Clay Pool: Produce Brick
Black Market: Produce one resource you currently do not produce.
Tavern: 5 Coins
East Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the right (eHalcyon). Chain to: Forum.
Vineyard: 1 Coin per brown card in yours+neighbours cities.
Scriptorium: Tablet. Chain to: Courthouse & Library.
Workshop: Gear. Chain to: Archery Range & Laboratory.
Library: Tablet. Chain from: Scriptorium. Chain to: Senate & University.
School: Tablet. Chain to: Academy & Study.
Pigeon Loft: Copy a science symbol on a green card on your left or right.
Senate: 6 VPs. Chain from: Library.
Guild of Shadows: 1 VP per black card in each of your neighbours cities.
Archimedes: Green cards cost 1 resource less.
Varro: 1 VP per yellow card.
Ramses: All purple cards can be played for free.
eHalcyon as the Pyramids of Gizah (B)
Coins: 23
Debt: 0
Strength: 4
Military Tokens: 2x +1, 1x +3, Total: 5 VP
Wonder stages built: 4
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: 2 Wood
(2) 5 VPs. Cost: 3 Stone
(3) 5 VPs. Cost: 3 Brick
(4) 7 VPs. Cost: Papyrus, 4 Stone
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Stone
Timber Yard: Produce Stone/Wood
Clay Pit: Produce Brick/Ore.
Clay Pool: Produce Brick.
Glassworks: Produce Glass.
Loom: Produce Cloth.
Caravansery: Produce Brick/Stone/Ore/Wood. Chain from: Marketplace. Chain to: Lighthouse.
Arena: 3 Coins & 1 VP per wonder stage completed. Chain from: Dispensary.
Militia: 2 Shields.
Archery Range: 2 Shields. Chain from: Workshop.
Lair: 3 VPs, everyone else loses 2 coins.
Brotherhood: 4 VPs, everyone else loses 3 coins.
Gamer's Guild: 1 VP per three coins owned.
Diocletian: Gain 2 coins for each black card you play.
Midas: 1 VP per three coins owned.
Watno as the Statue of Zeus at Olympia (A)
Coins: 7
Debt: 0
Strength: 6
Military Tokens: -none-, Total: 0 VP
Wonder stages built: 1
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: 2 Wood
(2) 1 free build per age. Cost: 2 Stone
(3) 7 VPs. Cost: 2 Ore
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Wood
Press: Produce Papyrus.
West Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the left (eHalcyon). Chain to: Forum.
Forum: Produce Cloth/Glass/Paper. Chain from: West/East Trading Post. Chain to: Haven.
Vineyard: 1 Coin per brown card in yours+neighbours' cities.
Baths: 3 VPs. Chain to: Aqueduct.
Temple: 3 VPs. Chain from: Altar. Chain to: Pantheon.
Pantheon: 7 VPs. Chain from: Temple.
Apothecary: Compasses. Chain to: Stables & Dispensary.
Laboratory: Gear. Chain from: Workshop. Chain to: Siege Workshop & Observatory.
Library: Tablet. Chain from: Scriptorium. Chain to: Senate & University.
University: Tablet. Chain from: Library.
Stockade: 1 Shield.
Archery Range: 2 Shields. Chain from: Workshop.
Arsenal: 3 Shields.
Croesus: Take 6 coins.
Vitruvius: Gain 2 coins each time you build a card through chaining.
Justinian: 3 VPs per set of green, red and blue cards.
Please check above for mistakes.
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And a second post to remind:
- decide on debt
- please check for mistakes :)
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I'll Pay my debt, even if I've committed no crime! Brotherhood? My ***. No brother should steal my monies like that. I need MOAR COINS!
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And I see a mistake!
I'm not winning! What's wrong with you? Fix it! Fix it! Fix it!
(Actually, I haven't looked at scores at all. Things move so slowly it's all I can do to track what I'm doing in my kingdom each turn let alone others. I even forgot mith could chain that this last round and had suggested a different move. Hope we're not terribly behind....)
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I'm tracking it in a spreadsheet. Occasionally I forget to update things, but I have a general idea of position.
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Davio, unless I'm missing something, you do not have both Cloth and Papyrus. That means you DO have to pay Qvist (which you probably want to do anyway).
You have a Forum so you can produce Papyrus, and then you can pay Qvist $1 for Cloth.
I think that's the only way you can do it since Tables has no grey, though I doubt you'd want to do it another way if it were available.
Edit: very curious what mith discarded in the first hand. I was thinking it might have been a gear to keep it away from Insomniac, but it appears they let that through...
You're right, I even put it in the quicktopic that way.
Qvist has to pay $2 for my Wood (Quagmire: Giggity), not $1, but he also gets $1 from me.
He starts with 3, pays 3 for 2 Wood and gets 1, so he ends up with $1, not $2.
Davio pays the debt
Qvist takes 3 debt tokens
So a mistake in the thingy, Qvist is supposed to have 1 coin.
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I'm tracking it in a spreadsheet. Occasionally I forget to update things, but I have a general idea of position.
I did so for the first 2 games, but chosen not to do so for this one.
I'll let the end surprise me although I feel we're not in the lead. :)
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Fixed the mistake -- Qvist now at 1, Davio at 18.
So for debt, we are waiting on mith, Tables, Ins and Watno. I'm pretty sure of what Watno will do but will wait for him to confirm.
I started tracking late Age II. :)
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Watno is still just paying coins.
mith, Ins, Tables?
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I think we both pay, waiting for Ins to reply.
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I'll figure out mith's debt after work today.
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mith will pay 1 Coin and take 2 Debt.
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So just Tables and Ins then.
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We both pay
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Pass cards! I'll post update later.
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Qvist takes 3 debt tokens.
mith pays $1 and takes 2 debt tokens.
eHalcyon built the dang thing.
Everyone else pays $3.
Qvist as the Mausoleum of Halikarnassos (A)
Coins: 1
Debt: 4
Strength: 6
Military Tokens: -none-, Total: 0 VP
Wonder stages built: 3
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: 2 Brick
(2) Look through the discard pile and build a card for free. Cost: 3 Ore
(3) 7 VPs. Cost: 2 Cloth
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Cloth
Loom: Produce Cloth
Mine: Produce Ore/Stone
Ore Vein: Produce Ore
Brickyard: Produce 2 Brick
Caravansery: Produce Brick/Stone/Ore/Wood. Chain from: Marketplace. Chain to: Lighthouse.
Gambling Den: 6 Coins. Each neighbour gets 1 coin.
Clandestine Dock West: Once per turn, pay one less coin to buy resources from your left (Watno).
Altar: 2 VPs. Chain to: Temple.
Stockade: 1 Shield.
Walls: 2 Shields. Chain to: Fortifications.
Fortifications: 3 Shields. Chain from: Walls.
Magistrates Guild: 1 VP per blue card in each of your neighbours cities
Nero: Gain 2 coins for each victory token you earn.
Cleopatra: 5 VPs.
Davio as the Al-Khazneh of Petra (B)
Coins: 15
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Military Tokens: 4x -1, Total: -4 VP
Wonder stages built: 2
(1) 3 VPs, everyone elses loses 2 coins. Cost: 2 Brick, 2 Ore
(2) 14 VPs. Cost: 14 Coins
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Brick
Tree Farm: Produce Wood/Brick
Stone Pit: Produce Stone
Marketplace: Manufactured Goods cost 1 to buy from both sides
East Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the right (Tables). Chain to: Forum.
West Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the left (Qvist). Chain to: Forum.
Caravansery: Produce Brick/Stone/Ore/Wood. Chain from: Marketplace. Chain to: Lighthouse.
Forum: Produce Cloth/Glass/Paper. Chain from: West/East Trading Post.
Bazaar: 2 Coins per gray card in yours+neighbours cities.
Lighthouse: 1 Coin & 1 VP per yellow card (including this). Chain from: Caravansery.
Clandestine Dock East: Once per turn, pay one less coin to buy resources from your right (Tables).
Aqueduct: 5 VPs. Chain from: Baths.
Courthouse: 4VPs. Chain from: Scriptorium.
Embassy: 3 VPs, diplomacy.
Spies Guild: 1 VP per red card in each of your neighbours cities.
Xenophon: Gain 2 coins for each yellow card you play.
Phidias: 1 VP per brown card.
Tables as the Colossus of Rhodes (B)
Coins: 16
Debt: 0
Strength: 5
Military Tokens: 2x +1, 2x +3, Total: 8 VP
Wonder stages built: 1
(1) 1 Shield, 3 VPs, 3 Coins. Cost: 3 Stone
(2) 1 Shield, 4 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: 4 Ore
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Ore
Forest Cave: Produce Wood/Ore.
Excavation: Produce Stone/Brick.
Stone Pit: Produce Stone
Foundry: Produce 2 Ore
Secret Warehouse: Produce any one resource that you already produce.
Forum: Produce Cloth/Glass/Paper. Chain from: West/East Trading Post. Chain to: Haven.
Gambling House: 9 Coins. Each neighbour gets 2 coins.
Capitol: 8 VPs.
Slave Market: 1 Coin & 1 VP per victory token.
Statue: 4 VPs. Chain from: Theater. Chain to: Gardens.
Palace: 8 VPs.
Guard Tower: 1 Shield. Cost: Brick.
Stables: 2 Shields. Chain from: Apothecary.
Hannibal: 1 Shield.
Zenobia: 3 VPs.
Insomniac as the Temple of Artemis at Ephesos (B)
Coins: 3
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Military Tokens: 4x -1, Total: -4 VP
Wonder stages built: 3
(1) 2 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: 2 Stone
(2) 3 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: 2 Wood
(3) 5 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: Papyrus, Cloth, Glass
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Papyrus
Glassworks: Produce Glass
Loom: Produce Cloth
Lumber Yard: Produce Wood
Tavern: 5 Coins.
Bazaar: 2 Coins per gray card in yours+neighbours cities.
Baths: 3 VPs. Chain to: Aqueduct.
School: Tablet. Chain to: Academy & Study.
Dispensary: Compasses. Chain from: Apothecary. Chain to: Arena & Lodge.
Workshop: Gear. Chain to: Archery Range & Laboratory.
University: Tablet. Chain from: Library.
Observatory: Gear. Chain from: Laboratory.
Aristotle: 3 VPs per science set.
Euclid: Compass.
Solomon: Look through the discard pile and build a card for free.
Galzria as the Lighthouse of Alexandria (B)
Coins: 6
Debt: 2
Strength: 5
Military Tokens: 2x +1, 2x +3, Total: 8 VP
Wonder stages built: 3
(1) Produce one raw material. Cost: 2 Brick
(2) Produce one manufactured good. Cost: 2 Wood
(3) 7 VPs. Cost: 3 Stone
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Glass
Wonder Stage 1: Brick/Stone/Ore/Wood
Wonder Stage 2: Cloth/Glass/Paper
Loom: Produce Cloth
Quarry: Produce two Stone.
Tavern: 5 Coins
Arena: 3 Coins & 1 VP per wonder stage completed.
Scriptorium: Tablet. Chain to: Courthouse & Library.
Barracks: 1 Shield.
Guard Tower: 1 Shield.
Mercenaries: 3 Shields
Temple: 3 VPs. Chain from: Altar. Chain to: Pantheon.
Strategists Guild: 1 VP per defeat token in each of your neighbours cities.
Bilkis: Once per turn, may pay 1 coin to the bank to generate any one resource.
Caligula: Once per age, build a black card for free.
Amytis: 2 VPs per Wonder stage built.
mith as the Hagia Sophia of Byzantium (B)
Coins: 2
Debt: 6
Strength: 0
Military Tokens: 3x -1, Total: -3 VP
Wonder stages built: 1
(1) 3 VPs, diplomacy. Cost: Paper, Glass, Wood, Ore
(2) 4 VPs, diplomacy. Cost: Cloth, Brick, 2 Ore
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Stone
Clay Pool: Produce Brick
Black Market: Produce one resource you currently do not produce.
Tavern: 5 Coins
East Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the right (eHalcyon). Chain to: Forum.
Vineyard: 1 Coin per brown card in yours+neighbours cities.
Scriptorium: Tablet. Chain to: Courthouse & Library.
Workshop: Gear. Chain to: Archery Range & Laboratory.
Library: Tablet. Chain from: Scriptorium. Chain to: Senate & University.
School: Tablet. Chain to: Academy & Study.
Pigeon Loft: Copy a science symbol on a green card on your left or right.
Senate: 6 VPs. Chain from: Library.
Guild of Shadows: 1 VP per black card in each of your neighbours cities.
Archimedes: Green cards cost 1 resource less.
Varro: 1 VP per yellow card.
Ramses: All purple cards can be played for free.
eHalcyon as the Pyramids of Gizah (B)
Coins: 23
Debt: 0
Strength: 4
Military Tokens: 2x +1, 1x +3, Total: 5 VP
Wonder stages built: 4
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: 2 Wood
(2) 5 VPs. Cost: 3 Stone
(3) 5 VPs. Cost: 3 Brick
(4) 7 VPs. Cost: Papyrus, 4 Stone
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Stone
Timber Yard: Produce Stone/Wood
Clay Pit: Produce Brick/Ore.
Clay Pool: Produce Brick.
Glassworks: Produce Glass.
Loom: Produce Cloth.
Caravansery: Produce Brick/Stone/Ore/Wood. Chain from: Marketplace. Chain to: Lighthouse.
Arena: 3 Coins & 1 VP per wonder stage completed. Chain from: Dispensary.
Militia: 2 Shields.
Archery Range: 2 Shields. Chain from: Workshop.
Lair: 3 VPs, everyone else loses 2 coins.
Brotherhood: 4 VPs, everyone else loses 3 coins.
Gamer's Guild: 1 VP per three coins owned.
Diocletian: Gain 2 coins for each black card you play.
Midas: 1 VP per three coins owned.
Watno as the Statue of Zeus at Olympia (A)
Coins: 4
Debt: 0
Strength: 6
Military Tokens: -none-, Total: 0 VP
Wonder stages built: 1
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: 2 Wood
(2) 1 free build per age. Cost: 2 Stone
(3) 7 VPs. Cost: 2 Ore
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Wood
Press: Produce Papyrus.
West Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the left (eHalcyon). Chain to: Forum.
Forum: Produce Cloth/Glass/Paper. Chain from: West/East Trading Post. Chain to: Haven.
Vineyard: 1 Coin per brown card in yours+neighbours' cities.
Baths: 3 VPs. Chain to: Aqueduct.
Temple: 3 VPs. Chain from: Altar. Chain to: Pantheon.
Pantheon: 7 VPs. Chain from: Temple.
Apothecary: Compasses. Chain to: Stables & Dispensary.
Laboratory: Gear. Chain from: Workshop. Chain to: Siege Workshop & Observatory.
Library: Tablet. Chain from: Scriptorium. Chain to: Senate & University.
University: Tablet. Chain from: Library.
Stockade: 1 Shield.
Archery Range: 2 Shields. Chain from: Workshop.
Arsenal: 3 Shields.
Croesus: Take 6 coins.
Vitruvius: Gain 2 coins each time you build a card through chaining.
Justinian: 3 VPs per set of green, red and blue cards.
Please check above for mistakes.
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Mith and Galz are done
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I'll give Qvist some time to reply.
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I've had my choice since the last hand (and I have my choice for the next hand) but we're still discussing Watno's pick. He made one suggestion, then I suggested several other options, and I think he just hasn't had time to read all the crap loads of stuff I wrote about them. :P
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We're done.
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Insomn, reply?
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Insomn, reply?
Replied a few days ago.
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Sorry. Everyone else ready? Davio?
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Ready, I guess, again without Qvist.
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Tables builds the Haven
Insomn builds the Study
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eHalcyon builds Palace, paying Watno $2 for Papyrus.
Watno builds Study.
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Ready, I guess, again without Qvist.
Don't worry, you're not the only one. Mith has been V/LA for awhile now (posted in QT), so I've been running both as well.
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mith builds: Architect's Guild: 3 VPs per purple card in each of your neighbours cities. Cost: 3 Ore, Brick, Papyrus, Cloth. for free.
Galzria builds: Gardens: 5 VPs. Chain from: Statue. Cost: Wood, 2 Brick. paying Bilkis 1 Coin for Wood, and mith 2 Coins for Brick
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Ready, I guess, again without Qvist.
Don't worry, you're not the only one. Mith has been V/LA for awhile now (posted in QT), so I've been running both as well.
It's OK, your choices are fairly straight forward anyway, especially at this stage. Earlier on I think you did something that I disagreed with. Off the top of my head, it was probably that I thought mith should have built the Study that Ins is building this turn.
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The problem with the study was that he had effectively 4 Tablets, and 1 gear. Adding a second gear wasn't going to be worthwhile unless he could get TWO compasses, which was unlikely. Otherwise it was only going to be worth 3 VP. So building a Guild that turn made more sense.
Now, you could argue that the Study might've been more correct as a defensive "don't let X get" type play... but we've been more or less focused on just building us up as best we can rather than worrying about others.
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Hmm, looking back at my old QT posts, that wasn't quite it. I wrote:
"I am not sure what mith will do with my hand. Study, probably. It's only 3VP, but it makes future green potentially much better."
Then I talk about another card you might take (which I won't reveal here) but which would be a gamble for mith, and then I added, "Shadows would be a better gamble because there are lots of good Black cards, I get a bonus for building them and Galz can build one for free."
So it wasn't entirely unexpected.
But I think I preferred Study because it seemed like a better gamble to me. When that guild was built, it was also worth just 3VP. So Study and GoS were both worth the same. The gamble was, are you more likely to get more VP in the future from Black cards being built, or from getting some greens? I would have favoured the greens, with these considerations:
- great if you can get a second Compass
- makes the other Gear a little better
- Watno was unlikely to build more greens, so mith was in a great position for Science
You may not have been sure about that last point. Our plan from the start was to just get Watno a single set of Science cards for Justinian. Our most recent hands have not given us better alternatives though.
Edit:
Another point is that there are more compasses and gears in Age III, so it's not that unlikely for you to get two.
BUT, I don't know what your starting hand was, so that could also have influenced your decisions. And anyway, as it turns out, GoS is looking like it may be better in the end anyway since Watno has taken more science after all.
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Qvist discards for 3 coins
Davio builds Town Hall: 6 VPs. Cost: Glass, Ore, 2 Stone (pays Qvist 1 for Stone)
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Qvist discards for $3.
Davio builds Town Hall, paying Qvist $1 for Stone.
Tables chains Haven, getting $4.
Insomniac chains Study.
Galzria builds Gardens, paying mith $2 for Brick and Bilkis $1 for Wood.
mith builds Architect's Guild with Ramses.
eHalcyon builds Palace, paying Watno $2 for Papyrus.
Watno builds Study.
Qvist as the Mausoleum of Halikarnassos (A)
Coins: 5
Debt: 4
Strength: 6
Military Tokens: -none-, Total: 0 VP
Wonder stages built: 3
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: 2 Brick
(2) Look through the discard pile and build a card for free. Cost: 3 Ore
(3) 7 VPs. Cost: 2 Cloth
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Cloth
Loom: Produce Cloth
Mine: Produce Ore/Stone
Ore Vein: Produce Ore
Brickyard: Produce 2 Brick
Caravansery: Produce Brick/Stone/Ore/Wood. Chain from: Marketplace. Chain to: Lighthouse.
Gambling Den: 6 Coins. Each neighbour gets 1 coin.
Clandestine Dock West: Once per turn, pay one less coin to buy resources from your left (Watno).
Altar: 2 VPs. Chain to: Temple.
Stockade: 1 Shield.
Walls: 2 Shields. Chain to: Fortifications.
Fortifications: 3 Shields. Chain from: Walls.
Magistrates Guild: 1 VP per blue card in each of your neighbours cities
Nero: Gain 2 coins for each victory token you earn.
Cleopatra: 5 VPs.
Davio as the Al-Khazneh of Petra (B)
Coins: 14
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Military Tokens: 4x -1, Total: -4 VP
Wonder stages built: 2
(1) 3 VPs, everyone elses loses 2 coins. Cost: 2 Brick, 2 Ore
(2) 14 VPs. Cost: 14 Coins
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Brick
Tree Farm: Produce Wood/Brick
Stone Pit: Produce Stone
Marketplace: Manufactured Goods cost 1 to buy from both sides
East Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the right (Tables). Chain to: Forum.
West Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the left (Qvist). Chain to: Forum.
Caravansery: Produce Brick/Stone/Ore/Wood. Chain from: Marketplace. Chain to: Lighthouse.
Forum: Produce Cloth/Glass/Paper. Chain from: West/East Trading Post.
Bazaar: 2 Coins per gray card in yours+neighbours cities.
Lighthouse: 1 Coin & 1 VP per yellow card (including this). Chain from: Caravansery.
Clandestine Dock East: Once per turn, pay one less coin to buy resources from your right (Tables).
Aqueduct: 5 VPs. Chain from: Baths.
Courthouse: 4VPs. Chain from: Scriptorium.
Town Hall: 6 VPs.
Embassy: 3 VPs, diplomacy.
Spies Guild: 1 VP per red card in each of your neighbours cities.
Xenophon: Gain 2 coins for each yellow card you play.
Phidias: 1 VP per brown card.
Tables as the Colossus of Rhodes (B)
Coins: 20
Debt: 0
Strength: 5
Military Tokens: 2x +1, 2x +3, Total: 8 VP
Wonder stages built: 1
(1) 1 Shield, 3 VPs, 3 Coins. Cost: 3 Stone
(2) 1 Shield, 4 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: 4 Ore
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Ore
Forest Cave: Produce Wood/Ore.
Excavation: Produce Stone/Brick.
Stone Pit: Produce Stone
Foundry: Produce 2 Ore
Secret Warehouse: Produce any one resource that you already produce.
Forum: Produce Cloth/Glass/Paper. Chain from: West/East Trading Post. Chain to: Haven.
Haven: 1 Coin & 1 VP per brown card. Chain from: Forum.
Gambling House: 9 Coins. Each neighbour gets 2 coins.
Capitol: 8 VPs.
Slave Market: 1 Coin & 1 VP per victory token.
Statue: 4 VPs. Chain from: Theater. Chain to: Gardens.
Palace: 8 VPs.
Guard Tower: 1 Shield. Cost: Brick.
Stables: 2 Shields. Chain from: Apothecary.
Hannibal: 1 Shield.
Zenobia: 3 VPs.
Insomniac as the Temple of Artemis at Ephesos (B)
Coins: 3
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Military Tokens: 4x -1, Total: -4 VP
Wonder stages built: 3
(1) 2 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: 2 Stone
(2) 3 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: 2 Wood
(3) 5 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: Papyrus, Cloth, Glass
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Papyrus
Glassworks: Produce Glass
Loom: Produce Cloth
Lumber Yard: Produce Wood
Tavern: 5 Coins.
Bazaar: 2 Coins per gray card in yours+neighbours cities.
Baths: 3 VPs. Chain to: Aqueduct.
School: Tablet. Chain to: Academy & Study.
Dispensary: Compasses. Chain from: Apothecary. Chain to: Arena & Lodge.
Workshop: Gear. Chain to: Archery Range & Laboratory.
University: Tablet. Chain from: Library.
Observatory: Gear. Chain from: Laboratory.
Study: Gear. Chain from: School.
Aristotle: 3 VPs per science set.
Euclid: Compass.
Solomon: Look through the discard pile and build a card for free.
Galzria as the Lighthouse of Alexandria (B)
Coins: 3
Debt: 2
Strength: 5
Military Tokens: 2x +1, 2x +3, Total: 8 VP
Wonder stages built: 3
(1) Produce one raw material. Cost: 2 Brick
(2) Produce one manufactured good. Cost: 2 Wood
(3) 7 VPs. Cost: 3 Stone
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Glass
Wonder Stage 1: Brick/Stone/Ore/Wood
Wonder Stage 2: Cloth/Glass/Paper
Loom: Produce Cloth
Quarry: Produce two Stone.
Tavern: 5 Coins
Arena: 3 Coins & 1 VP per wonder stage completed.
Scriptorium: Tablet. Chain to: Courthouse & Library.
Barracks: 1 Shield.
Guard Tower: 1 Shield.
Mercenaries: 3 Shields
Temple: 3 VPs. Chain from: Altar. Chain to: Pantheon.
Gardens: 5 VPs. Chain from: Statue.
Strategists Guild: 1 VP per defeat token in each of your neighbours cities.
Bilkis: Once per turn, may pay 1 coin to the bank to generate any one resource.
Caligula: Once per age, build a black card for free.
Amytis: 2 VPs per Wonder stage built.
mith as the Hagia Sophia of Byzantium (B)
Coins: 4
Debt: 6
Strength: 0
Military Tokens: 3x -1, Total: -3 VP
Wonder stages built: 1
(1) 3 VPs, diplomacy. Cost: Paper, Glass, Wood, Ore
(2) 4 VPs, diplomacy. Cost: Cloth, Brick, 2 Ore
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Stone
Clay Pool: Produce Brick
Black Market: Produce one resource you currently do not produce.
Tavern: 5 Coins
East Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the right (eHalcyon). Chain to: Forum.
Vineyard: 1 Coin per brown card in yours+neighbours cities.
Scriptorium: Tablet. Chain to: Courthouse & Library.
Workshop: Gear. Chain to: Archery Range & Laboratory.
Library: Tablet. Chain from: Scriptorium. Chain to: Senate & University.
School: Tablet. Chain to: Academy & Study.
Pigeon Loft: Copy a science symbol on a green card on your left or right.
Senate: 6 VPs. Chain from: Library.
Guild of Shadows: 1 VP per black card in each of your neighbours cities.
Architect's Guild: 3 VPs per purple card in each of your neighbours cities.
Archimedes: Green cards cost 1 resource less.
Varro: 1 VP per yellow card.
Ramses: All purple cards can be played for free.
eHalcyon as the Pyramids of Gizah (B)
Coins: 21
Debt: 0
Strength: 4
Military Tokens: 2x +1, 1x +3, Total: 5 VP
Wonder stages built: 4
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: 2 Wood
(2) 5 VPs. Cost: 3 Stone
(3) 5 VPs. Cost: 3 Brick
(4) 7 VPs. Cost: Papyrus, 4 Stone
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Stone
Timber Yard: Produce Stone/Wood
Clay Pit: Produce Brick/Ore.
Clay Pool: Produce Brick.
Glassworks: Produce Glass.
Loom: Produce Cloth.
Caravansery: Produce Brick/Stone/Ore/Wood. Chain from: Marketplace. Chain to: Lighthouse.
Arena: 3 Coins & 1 VP per wonder stage completed. Chain from: Dispensary.
Militia: 2 Shields.
Archery Range: 2 Shields. Chain from: Workshop.
Lair: 3 VPs, everyone else loses 2 coins.
Brotherhood: 4 VPs, everyone else loses 3 coins.
Palace: 8 VPs.
Gamer's Guild: 1 VP per three coins owned.
Diocletian: Gain 2 coins for each black card you play.
Midas: 1 VP per three coins owned.
Watno as the Statue of Zeus at Olympia (A)
Coins: 6
Debt: 0
Strength: 6
Military Tokens: -none-, Total: 0 VP
Wonder stages built: 1
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: 2 Wood
(2) 1 free build per age. Cost: 2 Stone
(3) 7 VPs. Cost: 2 Ore
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Wood
Press: Produce Papyrus.
West Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the left (eHalcyon). Chain to: Forum.
Forum: Produce Cloth/Glass/Paper. Chain from: West/East Trading Post. Chain to: Haven.
Vineyard: 1 Coin per brown card in yours+neighbours' cities.
Baths: 3 VPs. Chain to: Aqueduct.
Temple: 3 VPs. Chain from: Altar. Chain to: Pantheon.
Pantheon: 7 VPs. Chain from: Temple.
Apothecary: Compasses. Chain to: Stables & Dispensary.
Laboratory: Gear. Chain from: Workshop. Chain to: Siege Workshop & Observatory.
Library: Tablet. Chain from: Scriptorium. Chain to: Senate & University.
University: Tablet. Chain from: Library.
Study: Gear. Chain from: School.
Stockade: 1 Shield.
Archery Range: 2 Shields. Chain from: Workshop.
Arsenal: 3 Shields.
Croesus: Take 6 coins.
Vitruvius: Gain 2 coins each time you build a card through chaining.
Justinian: 3 VPs per set of green, red and blue cards.
Please check above for mistakes.
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Sent hand to Galz and mith. Give us Watno's when you can, Davio! :)
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Done.
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Watno and I have chosen.
At this stage, choices should be pretty easy. Should we just blast through?
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Insomn and I need his hand first, and there might still be some thinking about choices.
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Insomn and I need his hand first, and there might still be some thinking about choices.
I know it. I sent it. ;D
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We're ready.
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Davio and Galz?
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Sorry, I'll figure this out today. My choice is easy, but mith has options and I need to look over them carefully.
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Sorry, I'll figure this out today. My choice is easy, but mith has options and I need to look over them carefully.
I think mith's choice is pretty easy too. :P
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Sorry, I'll figure this out today. My choice is easy, but mith has options and I need to look over them carefully.
I think mith's choice is pretty easy too. :P
It probably is, but I haven't looked closely at the point breakdown.
Just out of... say, curiosity, a complete science set (the first anyway), is worth an additional 7 points, yes?
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Yes. Well, 8 if you include the fact you also get a science symbol.
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Ready.
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I think that's everyone.
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Not sure about Davio. He said "done" but that may have been about sending his hand to us.
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Davio?
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Bump...
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Okay, we're done.
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Galzria chains to Pantheon: 7 VPs. Chain from: Temple. Cost: 2 Brick, Ore, Papyrus, Cloth, Glass
mith chains to Academy: Compasses. Chain from: School. Cost: 3 Stone, Glass.
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eHalcyon chains Lighthouse, getting $3.
Watno builds Lodge, paying eHalcyon $2 for 2 Brick.
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Davio discards for 3 Coins
Qvist pays 5 and uses Cloth to build Contingent (5 shields)
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I build Gardens
Insomn discards for 3 coins
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Qvist pays $5 to the bank to build Contingent.
Davio discards for $3.
Tables chains Gardens from Statue.
Insomniac discards for $3.
Galzria chains Pantheon from Temple.
mith chains Academy from School.
eHalcyon chains Lighthouse from Caravansery, getting $3.
Watno builds Lodge, paying eHalcyon $2 for 2 Brick.
Qvist as the Mausoleum of Halikarnassos (A)
Coins: 0
Debt: 4
Strength: 11
Military Tokens: -none-, Total: 0 VP
Wonder stages built: 3
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: 2 Brick
(2) Look through the discard pile and build a card for free. Cost: 3 Ore
(3) 7 VPs. Cost: 2 Cloth
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Cloth
Loom: Produce Cloth
Mine: Produce Ore/Stone
Ore Vein: Produce Ore
Brickyard: Produce 2 Brick
Caravansery: Produce Brick/Stone/Ore/Wood. Chain from: Marketplace. Chain to: Lighthouse.
Gambling Den: 6 Coins. Each neighbour gets 1 coin.
Clandestine Dock West: Once per turn, pay one less coin to buy resources from your left (Watno).
Altar: 2 VPs. Chain to: Temple.
Stockade: 1 Shield.
Walls: 2 Shields. Chain to: Fortifications.
Fortifications: 3 Shields. Chain from: Walls.
Contingent: 5 Shields
Magistrates Guild: 1 VP per blue card in each of your neighbours cities
Nero: Gain 2 coins for each victory token you earn.
Cleopatra: 5 VPs.
Davio as the Al-Khazneh of Petra (B)
Coins: 17
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Military Tokens: 4x -1, Total: -4 VP
Wonder stages built: 2
(1) 3 VPs, everyone elses loses 2 coins. Cost: 2 Brick, 2 Ore
(2) 14 VPs. Cost: 14 Coins
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Brick
Tree Farm: Produce Wood/Brick
Stone Pit: Produce Stone
Marketplace: Manufactured Goods cost 1 to buy from both sides
East Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the right (Tables). Chain to: Forum.
West Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the left (Qvist). Chain to: Forum.
Caravansery: Produce Brick/Stone/Ore/Wood. Chain from: Marketplace. Chain to: Lighthouse.
Forum: Produce Cloth/Glass/Paper. Chain from: West/East Trading Post.
Bazaar: 2 Coins per gray card in yours+neighbours cities.
Lighthouse: 1 Coin & 1 VP per yellow card (including this). Chain from: Caravansery.
Clandestine Dock East: Once per turn, pay one less coin to buy resources from your right (Tables).
Aqueduct: 5 VPs. Chain from: Baths.
Courthouse: 4VPs. Chain from: Scriptorium.
Town Hall: 6 VPs.
Embassy: 3 VPs, diplomacy.
Spies Guild: 1 VP per red card in each of your neighbours cities.
Xenophon: Gain 2 coins for each yellow card you play.
Phidias: 1 VP per brown card.
Tables as the Colossus of Rhodes (B)
Coins: 20
Debt: 0
Strength: 5
Military Tokens: 2x +1, 2x +3, Total: 8 VP
Wonder stages built: 1
(1) 1 Shield, 3 VPs, 3 Coins. Cost: 3 Stone
(2) 1 Shield, 4 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: 4 Ore
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Ore
Forest Cave: Produce Wood/Ore.
Excavation: Produce Stone/Brick.
Stone Pit: Produce Stone
Foundry: Produce 2 Ore
Secret Warehouse: Produce any one resource that you already produce.
Forum: Produce Cloth/Glass/Paper. Chain from: West/East Trading Post. Chain to: Haven.
Haven: 1 Coin & 1 VP per brown card. Chain from: Forum.
Gambling House: 9 Coins. Each neighbour gets 2 coins.
Capitol: 8 VPs.
Slave Market: 1 Coin & 1 VP per victory token.
Statue: 4 VPs. Chain from: Theater. Chain to: Gardens.
Palace: 8 VPs.
Gardens: 5 VPs. Chain from: Statue.
Guard Tower: 1 Shield. Cost: Brick.
Stables: 2 Shields. Chain from: Apothecary.
Hannibal: 1 Shield.
Zenobia: 3 VPs.
Insomniac as the Temple of Artemis at Ephesos (B)
Coins: 6
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Military Tokens: 4x -1, Total: -4 VP
Wonder stages built: 3
(1) 2 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: 2 Stone
(2) 3 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: 2 Wood
(3) 5 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: Papyrus, Cloth, Glass
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Papyrus
Glassworks: Produce Glass
Loom: Produce Cloth
Lumber Yard: Produce Wood
Tavern: 5 Coins.
Bazaar: 2 Coins per gray card in yours+neighbours cities.
Baths: 3 VPs. Chain to: Aqueduct.
School: Tablet. Chain to: Academy & Study.
Dispensary: Compasses. Chain from: Apothecary. Chain to: Arena & Lodge.
Workshop: Gear. Chain to: Archery Range & Laboratory.
University: Tablet. Chain from: Library.
Observatory: Gear. Chain from: Laboratory.
Study: Gear. Chain from: School.
Aristotle: 3 VPs per science set.
Euclid: Compass.
Solomon: Look through the discard pile and build a card for free.
Galzria as the Lighthouse of Alexandria (B)
Coins: 3
Debt: 2
Strength: 5
Military Tokens: 2x +1, 2x +3, Total: 8 VP
Wonder stages built: 3
(1) Produce one raw material. Cost: 2 Brick
(2) Produce one manufactured good. Cost: 2 Wood
(3) 7 VPs. Cost: 3 Stone
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Glass
Wonder Stage 1: Brick/Stone/Ore/Wood
Wonder Stage 2: Cloth/Glass/Paper
Loom: Produce Cloth
Quarry: Produce two Stone.
Tavern: 5 Coins
Arena: 3 Coins & 1 VP per wonder stage completed.
Scriptorium: Tablet. Chain to: Courthouse & Library.
Barracks: 1 Shield.
Guard Tower: 1 Shield.
Mercenaries: 3 Shields
Temple: 3 VPs. Chain from: Altar. Chain to: Pantheon.
Gardens: 5 VPs. Chain from: Statue.
Pantheon: 7 VPs. Chain from: Temple.
Strategists Guild: 1 VP per defeat token in each of your neighbours cities.
Bilkis: Once per turn, may pay 1 coin to the bank to generate any one resource.
Caligula: Once per age, build a black card for free.
Amytis: 2 VPs per Wonder stage built.
mith as the Hagia Sophia of Byzantium (B)
Coins: 4
Debt: 6
Strength: 0
Military Tokens: 3x -1, Total: -3 VP
Wonder stages built: 1
(1) 3 VPs, diplomacy. Cost: Paper, Glass, Wood, Ore
(2) 4 VPs, diplomacy. Cost: Cloth, Brick, 2 Ore
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Stone
Clay Pool: Produce Brick
Black Market: Produce one resource you currently do not produce.
Tavern: 5 Coins
East Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the right (eHalcyon). Chain to: Forum.
Vineyard: 1 Coin per brown card in yours+neighbours cities.
Scriptorium: Tablet. Chain to: Courthouse & Library.
Workshop: Gear. Chain to: Archery Range & Laboratory.
Library: Tablet. Chain from: Scriptorium. Chain to: Senate & University.
School: Tablet. Chain to: Academy & Study.
Academy: Compasses. Chain from: School.
Pigeon Loft: Copy a science symbol on a green card on your left or right.
Senate: 6 VPs. Chain from: Library.
Guild of Shadows: 1 VP per black card in each of your neighbours cities.
Architect's Guild: 3 VPs per purple card in each of your neighbours cities.
Archimedes: Green cards cost 1 resource less.
Varro: 1 VP per yellow card.
Ramses: All purple cards can be played for free.
eHalcyon as the Pyramids of Gizah (B)
Coins: 26
Debt: 0
Strength: 4
Military Tokens: 2x +1, 1x +3, Total: 5 VP
Wonder stages built: 4
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: 2 Wood
(2) 5 VPs. Cost: 3 Stone
(3) 5 VPs. Cost: 3 Brick
(4) 7 VPs. Cost: Papyrus, 4 Stone
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Stone
Timber Yard: Produce Stone/Wood
Clay Pit: Produce Brick/Ore.
Clay Pool: Produce Brick.
Glassworks: Produce Glass.
Loom: Produce Cloth.
Caravansery: Produce Brick/Stone/Ore/Wood. Chain from: Marketplace. Chain to: Lighthouse.
Arena: 3 Coins & 1 VP per wonder stage completed. Chain from: Dispensary.
Lighthouse: 1 Coin & 1 VP per yellow card (including this). Chain from: Caravansery.
Militia: 2 Shields.
Archery Range: 2 Shields. Chain from: Workshop.
Lair: 3 VPs, everyone else loses 2 coins.
Brotherhood: 4 VPs, everyone else loses 3 coins.
Palace: 8 VPs.
Gamer's Guild: 1 VP per three coins owned.
Diocletian: Gain 2 coins for each black card you play.
Midas: 1 VP per three coins owned.
Watno as the Statue of Zeus at Olympia (A)
Coins: 4
Debt: 0
Strength: 6
Military Tokens: -none-, Total: 0 VP
Wonder stages built: 1
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: 2 Wood
(2) 1 free build per age. Cost: 2 Stone
(3) 7 VPs. Cost: 2 Ore
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Wood
Press: Produce Papyrus.
West Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the left (eHalcyon). Chain to: Forum.
Forum: Produce Cloth/Glass/Paper. Chain from: West/East Trading Post. Chain to: Haven.
Vineyard: 1 Coin per brown card in yours+neighbours' cities.
Baths: 3 VPs. Chain to: Aqueduct.
Temple: 3 VPs. Chain from: Altar. Chain to: Pantheon.
Pantheon: 7 VPs. Chain from: Temple.
Apothecary: Compasses. Chain to: Stables & Dispensary.
Laboratory: Gear. Chain from: Workshop. Chain to: Siege Workshop & Observatory.
Library: Tablet. Chain from: Scriptorium. Chain to: Senate & University.
University: Tablet. Chain from: Library.
Study: Gear. Chain from: School.
Lodge: Compasses. Chain from: Dispensary.
Stockade: 1 Shield.
Archery Range: 2 Shields. Chain from: Workshop.
Arsenal: 3 Shields.
Croesus: Take 6 coins.
Vitruvius: Gain 2 coins each time you build a card through chaining.
Justinian: 3 VPs per set of green, red and blue cards.
Please check above for mistakes.
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I sent hands for mith, Ins and Davio. Pretty sure I have them correct.
Waiting for Watno's hand, if anyone knows it. :P
Edit: Tables and Ins should know it. Care to send it so we don't have to wait until Davio is back? :D
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I haven't been tracking closely enough and don't feel like going through everything, sorry.
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If it helps, I believe it's your hand 3, minus Contingent (Qvist), minus Town Hall (Davio), minus Palace (you). If you can't find your hand 3 easily, no problem.
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This is last round, correct? We don't pass hands again?
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I've got mith's choice done. I'm not sure on mine.
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I think we're done. Well, Insomn hasn't replied, but it's not a tough decision.
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Also done. Only waiting for Davio then.
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Yeah, I've got mine even if I don't like it.
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Done.
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eHalcyon builds Chamber of Commerce, paying Watno $2 for Papyrus and getting $4.
Watno builds wonder stage 2, paying eHalcyon $2 for 2 Stone.
mith builds wonder stage 2, paying eHalcyon $1 for Ore and paying Galzria $2 for Cloth.
Galzria builds Torture Chamber for free via Caligula.
Insomniac chains Arena from Dispensary, getting $9.
Tables discards for $3.
Davio chains Haven from Forum, getting $2 plus an additional $2 from Xenophon.
Qvist builds...?
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"mith builds wonder stage 2, paying eHalcyon $1 for Ore and paying Galzria $2 for Cloth.
Galzria builds Torture Chamber for free via Caligula."
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Davio builds the Haven, indeed
Qvist discards for 3 Coin
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Insomniac chains Arena from Dispensary, getting $9.
Tables discards for $3.
Well that saves some time typing.
Insomniac chains Arena from Dispensary, getting $9.
Tables discards for $3.
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Hahaha accurate predictions! Last round is easy though.
@Galz, why did you have mith build Academy with the previous hand? The guild was worth more.
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Hahaha accurate predictions! Last round is easy though.
@Galz, why did you have mith build Academy with the previous hand? The guild was worth more.
Is it? The Guild was 1 VP per victory token. I'll have 3.... oh, whoops. Forgot we fight twice. I'll have 6. You'll have 4. Ah, oh well.
Still, I don't track hands, and didn't know mith would get a Compass this turn if he wanted it. I wanted to complete the set while I could.
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Qvist discards for $3.
Davio chains Haven from Forum, getting $2 plus an additional $2 from Xenophon.
Tables discards for $3.
Insomniac chains Arena from Dispensary, getting $9.
Galzria builds Torture Chamber for free via Caligula.
mith builds wonder stage 2, paying eHalcyon $1 for Ore and paying Galzria $2 for Cloth.
eHalcyon builds Chamber of Commerce, paying Watno $2 for Papyrus and getting $4.
Watno builds wonder stage 2, paying eHalcyon $2 for 2 Stone.
Military:
Qvist wins twice, Watno loses twice
Davio loses once, Tables wins once (Davio has diplomacy)
Ins loses twice, Galz wins twice
mith loses once, eHalcyon wins once (mith has diplomacy)
Qvist as the Mausoleum of Halikarnassos (A)
Coins: 3
Debt: 4
Strength: 11
Military Tokens: 2x +5, Total: 10 VP
Wonder stages built: 3
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: 2 Brick
(2) Look through the discard pile and build a card for free. Cost: 3 Ore
(3) 7 VPs. Cost: 2 Cloth
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Cloth
Loom: Produce Cloth
Mine: Produce Ore/Stone
Ore Vein: Produce Ore
Brickyard: Produce 2 Brick
Caravansery: Produce Brick/Stone/Ore/Wood. Chain from: Marketplace. Chain to: Lighthouse.
Gambling Den: 6 Coins. Each neighbour gets 1 coin.
Clandestine Dock West: Once per turn, pay one less coin to buy resources from your left (Watno).
Altar: 2 VPs. Chain to: Temple.
Stockade: 1 Shield.
Walls: 2 Shields. Chain to: Fortifications.
Fortifications: 3 Shields. Chain from: Walls.
Contingent: 5 Shields
Magistrates Guild: 1 VP per blue card in each of your neighbours cities
Nero: Gain 2 coins for each victory token you earn.
Cleopatra: 5 VPs.
Davio as the Al-Khazneh of Petra (B)
Coins: 21
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Military Tokens: 5x -1, Total: -5 VP
Wonder stages built: 2
(1) 3 VPs, everyone elses loses 2 coins. Cost: 2 Brick, 2 Ore
(2) 14 VPs. Cost: 14 Coins
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Brick
Tree Farm: Produce Wood/Brick
Stone Pit: Produce Stone
Marketplace: Manufactured Goods cost 1 to buy from both sides
East Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the right (Tables). Chain to: Forum.
West Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the left (Qvist). Chain to: Forum.
Caravansery: Produce Brick/Stone/Ore/Wood. Chain from: Marketplace. Chain to: Lighthouse.
Forum: Produce Cloth/Glass/Paper. Chain from: West/East Trading Post.
Bazaar: 2 Coins per gray card in yours+neighbours cities.
Lighthouse: 1 Coin & 1 VP per yellow card (including this). Chain from: Caravansery.
Haven: 1 Coin & 1 VP per brown card. Chain from: Forum.
Clandestine Dock East: Once per turn, pay one less coin to buy resources from your right (Tables).
Aqueduct: 5 VPs. Chain from: Baths.
Courthouse: 4VPs. Chain from: Scriptorium.
Town Hall: 6 VPs.
Embassy: 3 VPs, diplomacy.
Spies Guild: 1 VP per red card in each of your neighbours cities.
Xenophon: Gain 2 coins for each yellow card you play.
Phidias: 1 VP per brown card.
Tables as the Colossus of Rhodes (B)
Coins: 23
Debt: 0
Strength: 5
Military Tokens: 2x +1, 2x +3, 1x +5 Total: 13 VP
Wonder stages built: 1
(1) 1 Shield, 3 VPs, 3 Coins. Cost: 3 Stone
(2) 1 Shield, 4 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: 4 Ore
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Ore
Forest Cave: Produce Wood/Ore.
Excavation: Produce Stone/Brick.
Stone Pit: Produce Stone
Foundry: Produce 2 Ore
Secret Warehouse: Produce any one resource that you already produce.
Forum: Produce Cloth/Glass/Paper. Chain from: West/East Trading Post. Chain to: Haven.
Haven: 1 Coin & 1 VP per brown card. Chain from: Forum.
Gambling House: 9 Coins. Each neighbour gets 2 coins.
Capitol: 8 VPs.
Slave Market: 1 Coin & 1 VP per victory token.
Statue: 4 VPs. Chain from: Theater. Chain to: Gardens.
Palace: 8 VPs.
Gardens: 5 VPs. Chain from: Statue.
Guard Tower: 1 Shield. Cost: Brick.
Stables: 2 Shields. Chain from: Apothecary.
Hannibal: 1 Shield.
Zenobia: 3 VPs.
Insomniac as the Temple of Artemis at Ephesos (B)
Coins: 15
Debt: 0
Strength: 0
Military Tokens: 6x -1, Total: -6 VP
Wonder stages built: 3
(1) 2 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: 2 Stone
(2) 3 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: 2 Wood
(3) 5 VPs, 4 Coins. Cost: Papyrus, Cloth, Glass
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Papyrus
Glassworks: Produce Glass
Loom: Produce Cloth
Lumber Yard: Produce Wood
Tavern: 5 Coins.
Bazaar: 2 Coins per gray card in yours+neighbours cities.
Arena: 3 Coins & 1 VP per wonder stage completed. Chain from: Dispensary.
Baths: 3 VPs. Chain to: Aqueduct.
School: Tablet. Chain to: Academy & Study.
Dispensary: Compasses. Chain from: Apothecary. Chain to: Arena & Lodge.
Workshop: Gear. Chain to: Archery Range & Laboratory.
University: Tablet. Chain from: Library.
Observatory: Gear. Chain from: Laboratory.
Study: Gear. Chain from: School.
Aristotle: 3 VPs per science set.
Euclid: Compass.
Solomon: Look through the discard pile and build a card for free.
Galzria as the Lighthouse of Alexandria (B)
Coins: 5
Debt: 2
Strength: 5
Military Tokens: 2x +1, 2x +3, 2x +5, Total: 18 VP
Wonder stages built: 3
(1) Produce one raw material. Cost: 2 Brick
(2) Produce one manufactured good. Cost: 2 Wood
(3) 7 VPs. Cost: 3 Stone
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Glass
Wonder Stage 1: Brick/Stone/Ore/Wood
Wonder Stage 2: Cloth/Glass/Paper
Loom: Produce Cloth
Quarry: Produce two Stone.
Tavern: 5 Coins
Arena: 3 Coins & 1 VP per wonder stage completed.
Scriptorium: Tablet. Chain to: Courthouse & Library.
Torture Chamber: Copy a science symbol on a green card on your left or right.
Barracks: 1 Shield.
Guard Tower: 1 Shield.
Mercenaries: 3 Shields
Temple: 3 VPs. Chain from: Altar. Chain to: Pantheon.
Gardens: 5 VPs. Chain from: Statue.
Pantheon: 7 VPs. Chain from: Temple.
Strategists Guild: 1 VP per defeat token in each of your neighbours cities.
Bilkis: Once per turn, may pay 1 coin to the bank to generate any one resource.
Caligula: Once per age, build a black card for free.
Amytis: 2 VPs per Wonder stage built.
mith as the Hagia Sophia of Byzantium (B)
Coins: 1
Debt: 6
Strength: 0
Military Tokens: 4x -1, Total: -4 VP
Wonder stages built: 2
(1) 3 VPs, diplomacy. Cost: Paper, Glass, Wood, Ore
(2) 4 VPs, diplomacy. Cost: Cloth, Brick, 2 Ore
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Stone
Clay Pool: Produce Brick
Black Market: Produce one resource you currently do not produce.
Tavern: 5 Coins
East Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the right (eHalcyon). Chain to: Forum.
Vineyard: 1 Coin per brown card in yours+neighbours cities.
Scriptorium: Tablet. Chain to: Courthouse & Library.
Workshop: Gear. Chain to: Archery Range & Laboratory.
Library: Tablet. Chain from: Scriptorium. Chain to: Senate & University.
School: Tablet. Chain to: Academy & Study.
Academy: Compasses. Chain from: School.
Pigeon Loft: Copy a science symbol on a green card on your left or right.
Senate: 6 VPs. Chain from: Library.
Guild of Shadows: 1 VP per black card in each of your neighbours cities.
Architect's Guild: 3 VPs per purple card in each of your neighbours cities.
Archimedes: Green cards cost 1 resource less.
Varro: 1 VP per yellow card.
Ramses: All purple cards can be played for free.
eHalcyon as the Pyramids of Gizah (B)
Coins: 31
Debt: 0
Strength: 4
Military Tokens: 2x +1, 1x +3, 1x +5, Total: 10 VP
Wonder stages built: 4
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: 2 Wood
(2) 5 VPs. Cost: 3 Stone
(3) 5 VPs. Cost: 3 Brick
(4) 7 VPs. Cost: Papyrus, 4 Stone
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Stone
Timber Yard: Produce Stone/Wood
Clay Pit: Produce Brick/Ore.
Clay Pool: Produce Brick.
Glassworks: Produce Glass.
Loom: Produce Cloth.
Caravansery: Produce Brick/Stone/Ore/Wood. Chain from: Marketplace. Chain to: Lighthouse.
Arena: 3 Coins & 1 VP per wonder stage completed. Chain from: Dispensary.
Lighthouse: 1 Coin & 1 VP per yellow card (including this). Chain from: Caravansery.
Chamber of Commerce: 2 Coins & 2 VPs per gray card.
Militia: 2 Shields.
Archery Range: 2 Shields. Chain from: Workshop.
Lair: 3 VPs, everyone else loses 2 coins.
Brotherhood: 4 VPs, everyone else loses 3 coins.
Palace: 8 VPs.
Gamer's Guild: 1 VP per three coins owned.
Diocletian: Gain 2 coins for each black card you play.
Midas: 1 VP per three coins owned.
Watno as the Statue of Zeus at Olympia (A)
Coins: 4
Debt: 0
Strength: 6
Military Tokens: 2x -1, Total: -2 VP
Wonder stages built: 2
(1) 3 VPs. Cost: 2 Wood
(2) 1 free build per age. Cost: 2 Stone
(3) 7 VPs. Cost: 2 Ore
Tableau
Wonder Resource: Produce Wood
Press: Produce Papyrus.
West Trading Post: Raw materials cost 1 to buy from the left (eHalcyon). Chain to: Forum.
Forum: Produce Cloth/Glass/Paper. Chain from: West/East Trading Post. Chain to: Haven.
Vineyard: 1 Coin per brown card in yours+neighbours' cities.
Baths: 3 VPs. Chain to: Aqueduct.
Temple: 3 VPs. Chain from: Altar. Chain to: Pantheon.
Pantheon: 7 VPs. Chain from: Temple.
Apothecary: Compasses. Chain to: Stables & Dispensary.
Laboratory: Gear. Chain from: Workshop. Chain to: Siege Workshop & Observatory.
Library: Tablet. Chain from: Scriptorium. Chain to: Senate & University.
University: Tablet. Chain from: Library.
Study: Gear. Chain from: School.
Lodge: Compasses. Chain from: Dispensary.
Stockade: 1 Shield.
Archery Range: 2 Shields. Chain from: Workshop.
Arsenal: 3 Shields.
Croesus: Take 6 coins.
Vitruvius: Gain 2 coins each time you build a card through chaining.
Justinian: 3 VPs per set of green, red and blue cards.
Please check above for mistakes.
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Hahaha accurate predictions! Last round is easy though.
@Galz, why did you have mith build Academy with the previous hand? The guild was worth more.
Is it? The Guild was 1 VP per victory token. I'll have 3.... oh, whoops. Forgot we fight twice. I'll have 6. You'll have 4. Ah, oh well.
Still, I don't track hands, and didn't know mith would get a Compass this turn if he wanted it. I wanted to complete the set while I could.
Even if you didn't get to complete the set, the guild would have been worth more. Forgetting double fighting would do that though, I suppose!
Anyway, assuming the above is all correct, I'm calculating final points.
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Thanks for playing me out, Galz. I had to reinstall my OS pretty much as soon as I got back, and lost my bookmarks in the process.
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Qvist/Davio: 84
Tables/Insomniac: 112
Galzria/mith: 104
eHalcyon/Watno: 137
The full scoring is attached as a png.
We really lucked out in getting both Arena and Gamer's Guild, and also being able to take pretty much all the debt cards, and also getting the right cards to keep Watno afloat despite having no resources. :)
Here is our QT (http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/dQ3EL7YNuECN), wherein I overanalyze (and still make plenty of mistakes, some not corrected) and Watno puts up with it.
Good game everyone!
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/in for next game! :D
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Yipee!
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Wait a second, Tables -- you should have built your second wonder. Totally forgot about that. :P
By doing that, you get a fourth coin, putting you at $24. You also get 4VP. So your final score with Ins would be 117.
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Going to type a bunch because I enjoy it.
Our leaders were:
Watno:
Vitruvius: Gain 2 coins each time you build a card through chaining. Cost: 1 Coin.
Justinian: 3 VPs per set of green, red and blue cards. Cost: 3 Coins.
Hypatia: 1 VP per green card. Cost: 4 Coins.
Croseus: Take 6 coins. Cost: 1 Coin.
eHalcyon:
Diocletian: Gain 2 coins for each black card you play.. Cost: 2 Coins.
Midas: 1 VP per three coins owned. Cost: 3 Coins.
Darius: 1 VP per black card. Cost: 4 Coins.
Aspasia: 2 VPs, diplomacy. Cost: 3 Coins.
From our drafted leaders, the plan was for Watno to depend on me for resources, using Croseus and Vitruvius to get enough coin to last. There was also a possibility of him using his second wonder stage for some free builds, but he never got around to that (built it in the last round just to give me more coins). He would play either Justinian or Hypatia depending on how well he did on green versus everything else. When we saw that both mith and Ins would be pursuing Science, we knew that Justinian was a much better bet. Watno somehow ended up with a second science set anyway, built entirely in Age III.
I would use Diocletian to get Black cards and more coin, fueling Midas or Darius or both depending on how it played out. At the start of Age II I was relatively low on coin so I did not build a leader, and by Age III it was clear that Midas would be much better than Diocletian.
The rest played out quite smoothly. It felt a bit unlucky in Age I because my first hand had 2 Black cards that I had to pass on, and the few Black cards we saw did not work for us. The exception was Militia, which was excellent early on for me, though mith/Byzantium was unlikely to contest military anyway.
I managed to pull some decent resource cards, getting enough browns in Age I to sustain both Watno and myself. We also got all greys built in Age I, which was kind of awesome (although Watno had to take the Press, which would have been better on me).
One fun trick we pulled was counting on mith to build a Clay Pool instead of having Watno build it. If I didn't have access to it I would miss my third wonder stage or be forced to build Brickyard or Caravansery (which we might not even see). But we knew that mith would build the Clay Pool so that Galz could afford his wonder. I think Qvist/Davio did something similar when Qvist passed on building a Press, knowing that Watno would build it for me.
It was pretty interesting overall. At the end of Age I (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=6977.msg214771#msg214771), the only non-resource build I did was Militia. Watno, OTOH, did not build two cards of the same colour. In Age II (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=6977.msg254369#msg254369), I built Caravansery, Archery Range (to seal military win), Lair (to avoid taking debt myself) and the final 3 stages of my wonder, while Watno continued rainbowing.
Cards we buried:
eHalcyon
1: Aspasia
2: Training Ground (keeping red away from Qvist)
3: Glassworks (to prevent Qvist from retrieving it with his wonder)
4: Training Ground (instead of Stables; it made little difference)
Watno
1: Apothecary (keeping it away from Solomon)
2: some red building, doesn't matter
This was the first Team game of 7 Wonders I ever played and I liked it a lot. Being able to collaborate with a neighbour and seeing hands in advance made for some very interesting tactical decisions. I definitely enjoyed it. :)
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Haha, totally overlooked my 2nd wonder stage, yeah should have built that. Oh well.
I found being in pairs very slow, compared to just playing normally, but it was fun. Kind of glad it's finally over though :P.
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Qvist totally suffered from having too few resources but I noticed it too late.
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I thought Ins and I were in a pretty bad spot when we saw our first hand. Off the top of my head, I think we had 3 of the 6 age I science cards between us, I had two and was passing away (so Ins would never see them) while Ins couldn't build the one he had. On top of that, two to our right was Archimedes, meaning the remaining science cards wouldn't get through. This was bad because Ins took a pretty much pure science leader set.
Still, we clawed our way back into the game, I'm kind of surprised we took 2nd actually. I think a few people scored quite low actually. Not surprised by eHalc's victory either.
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Hey, I won as well.
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Watno was a great partner and I certainly did not do everything on my own.
Ah, one more mistake! For the Age III battle, Qvist earns 4 coins via Nero, giving him an extra point.
More random thoughts:
It was interesting how each of the teams aside from ours split on military, with one partner opting to go completely pacifist. Watno and I didn't do this. For me, since I was definitely not going science, I didn't want to eschew another potential stream of VP. This was especially true because I was beside Byzantium. While that might be a deterrent in a regular game, in team play it just meant I had to invest less to win. Watno had Justinian so he wanted to pick up a few reds as well. We were a bit worried by Qvist's Nero because we thought he might push hard on military, but Watno kept pace (at least until the last age). If it weren't for Justinian I think Watno would have given up on military from the start, but a nice effect of building it was that we would either score some points or Qvist would have to build more military and pass us better cards. I'm not sure if that really came into play though, because of that Contingent.
I suppose Davio didn't even try for military because he was next to Rhodes, and mith didn't because he was Byzantium (and I got an early lead with Militia). Insomniac just never had time, I think, as he was focused on green.
Ins/Tables, I don't think you were in that bad of a shape for science. Those early hands do sound really crushing though. However, it actually wasn't that bad that mith was on Ins' right. That impacts your Age I quite a bit, but it gives you control in Age II. I think Watno also passed on some greens because our original plan was to only finish one science set, which meant they would easily get through to you in Age II via Qvist and Davio. Since mith was so low on resources and money, it made it harder for him to pick up Age III green since he didn't have all the chains he needed.
I think Galz and mith had the most interesting strategy. Alexandria/Bilkis is neat for going low on resources, and then mith had Archimedes->Science->chaining and Ramses for Age III to also get by with few resources. The reliance on chaining could be disrupted though, and the relative lack of coin made all the debt cards hurt a lot more.
What leaders did you all have that didn't get played?
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Our QT: http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/cZhqsv6CYR8
Insom:
Solomon: Look through the discard pile and build a card for free.. Cost: 3 Coins.
Aristotle: 3 VPs per science set.. Cost: 3 Coins.
Ceaser: 2 Shields. Cost: 5 Coins.
Euclid: Compasses. Cost: 5 Coins.
Tables:
Zenobia: 3 VPs. Cost: 2 Coins.
Hannibal: 1 Shield. Cost: 2 Coins.
Nebuchadnezzar: 1 VP per blue card. Cost: 4 Coins.
Macenas: All future leaders can be played for free. Cost: 1 Coin.
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Nebuchadnezzar could have been used. You had one blue at that point and you had plenty of coin, so Neb would have had you nearly even. There would be a slight chance of losing 1VP if that extra coin would have gotten you to a multiple of 3, but a greater chance of gaining more VP when building more blues.
Edit:
I think Solomon would have been a better play than Euclid at the start of Age II. Solomon is $2 cheaper so you have an extra $2 you could use for other things. More importantly, it gives you some helpful chains in Age II. A reason to save it might be to pull back an Age II science card for chains in Age III, but your positioning made it likely to see lots of Age II green without trouble and there was no guarantee that an Age II science would be discarded.
I guess it didn't actually make a difference because you had a better choice when you saw Archery Range and you never even saw Laboratory.
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Our Leader draft was pretty horrid, I had Xenophon but that was about it.
We had planned for military with Nero, but didn't push hard enough.
Qvist just always suffered from resource deficiency because neither I or Watno had much for him to use. And even if we did, he just never really had any money. It's pretty harsh to have to build the Loom when your wonder already produces Cloth in order to build a wonder stage. Building a single card for one single purpose is just always bad. Maybe it would have been better to just forget about the wonder stage and focus more on general point cards.
There were a lot of times where he had to discard for coins and that's such a poor move. I was swimming in coins, but didn't have a real good way to pass them to Qvist, because of the rule that you have to use what you can produce first.
I ended up focusing too much on my end and not enough on the team aspect. Maybe it would have been better to slide some good cards through to Qvist instead of building them myself. But oh well, lessons I guess. Also, my concentration wasn't really in this one, I decided to take a less serious approach, also due to time restrictions in my hardworking life and got punished for it.
Congrats to the winning team, eHalc and Watno.
Now, to answer your question about "why did Qvist pass the Palace?"
He had to use either Palace or Builder's Union (everyone loses 1 coin per wonder stage) to build his wonder. He couldn't afford to get stuck with 0 coins, so we buried the BU.
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What was in your leader draft?
From my first hand I took Diocletian and Watno took Justinian, leaving Ptolemy and Cleopatra. Cleo isn't that bad.
Watno passed on Macenas, Alexander and Phidias.
Qvist had Nero and you had Xenophon from starting hands. Nefertiti got passed to Qvist for his final.
I suppose Qvist took Alexander, hoping to capitalize on victories? Well, Tables said he had Macenas so that must be it.
Your first leader hand had Leonidas, Caesar and Hannibal. I suppose all of those are unappealing up against Rhodes. Nonetheless, Caesar would have been an interesting choice to jump ahead of Rhodes and take a commanding lead. I guess the lead is not as big with Hannibal there though. If Xenophon was in that hand, certainly it was the best choice.
Nebuchadnezzar was passed to Tables after -- he's not that bad either!
Not sure where the cards were in your original hands, but I think it would have been good for one of you to take Xenophon and the other to take Phidias, instead of having you take both. You with Xenophon is good because Rhodes tends to go heavy resources. If you build lots of yellow, you can utilize that. Since you would be heavy yellow, Qvist should build resources for himself (which you could then buy), so Phidias would be better for him. The Nero-Alexander combo would have been good too, but you had to push harder for that. But you couldn't have known that Watno would build some red anyway, just for Justinian.
You're right that Qvist building Loom was not so good. It would have been better if he had taken the Forum. I don't like Side A of the MG wonders for that reason. You either need to count on Forum or waste a buy, because neighbours are less likely to build the grey when they can just buy it from you. You could have built the Loom for Qvist, but that just means it's less likely that you can buy from him.
Definitely you need to keep an eye out for your partner. There were lots of times when Watno or I passed on a good card because the other needed it more.
Good call on the Builder's Union. I would have definitely built it. I was building every debt card I could get because losing coins would be worse for me than for others, given that I had Midas.
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This was my first leader pick.
Leonidas: Red cards cost 1 resource less. Cost: 2 Coins.
Imhotep: Wonder stages cost 1 resource less. Cost: 3 Coins.
Ceaser: 2 Shields. Cost: 5 Coins.
Hannibal: 1 Shield. Cost: 2 Coins.
So 3 leaders that focus on red and 1 that focuses on only 1 wonder stage for me, Imho doesn't work with coins unfortunately and I only had 2 stages.
Second pick:
Nebuchadnezzar: 1 VP per blue card. Cost: 4 Coins.
Xenophon: Gain 2 coins for each yellow card you play. Cost: 2 Coins.
Euclid: Compasses. Cost: 5 Coins.
From this I picked Xeno, Qvist had already picked Nero.
Third pick:
Macenas: All future leaders can be played for free. Cost: 1 Coin.
Phidias: 1 VP per brown card.. Cost: 3 Coins.
Well, I wasn't going to play many Leaders and I needed to get Xeno out firstly, so Macenas was out, just took Phidias. Qvist picked Alexander from this one orginally.
And finally I got Ptolemy: Tablet. Cost: 5 Coins.
So I could only get the maximum out of Xeno and I did, but the others were a bust.
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Yeah, not the best hands. I do think it would have benefited you guys if Qvist had taken Phidias though, so you could focus on yellow and he could focus on resources.
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Sorry for not finishing the game, guys. It was really fun though. Thanks for modding the game and grats to the winners.
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The stratego game is still waiting for you!