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[EFHW]

yuma you missed my Eevee vote

[yuma]

yuma you missed my Eevee vote

thanks, fixed

[Archetype]

I will have more time to collect my thoughts later today, but for now I will say that yes, I did target Voltaire last night.

When targeting Voltaire, did you think that he was scum or that he was town?

Vote: faust

Um, Archetype?  Care to explain?

I'm fairly certain Walrus is Town and feel like this is scum!faust fishing for information.

[faust]

So xeiron thought it was GREY, faust thought it was PURPLE. Now to the extent that I'm actually believing this silly argument, I think that implicates faust somewhat more than xeiron, as purple is a color that seems to be used traditionally for third-party roles, more-so than grey anyway. Maybe a SK? Ooh, and faust was the one who accused me D1 of a "3rd party slip" for mentioning that I felt like the "3rd party" for holding the hammer? That could be a double reverse guilty conscience scumslip accusation scumslip!

Now of course you couldn't know, but it does seem kind of harsh to pull this on someone with dyschromatopsia.

[faust]

I will have more time to collect my thoughts later today, but for now I will say that yes, I did target Voltaire last night.

When targeting Voltaire, did you think that he was scum or that he was town?

Vote: faust

Um, Archetype?  Care to explain?

I'm fairly certain Walrus is Town and feel like this is scum!faust fishing for information.

And what makes you so certain that Walrus is town?

[faust]

faust...faust, faust faust. I've had a bad feeling about him since D1, and I'm trying to be objective here. But I can't help but continue to feel bad about him. I found the vote on EFHW to be...indignant, I guess? It seems like he was initially too confused, then lashed out at EFHW for trying to puzzle it out, and then he seems too sure of himself..."obviously chosen before knowing about the two lives stuff". The claim I imagine is relatively worthless if there's a "true" claim underneath, and maybe he knew about that D1. Idk, it all just seems sort of like acting to me. I'm happy with a vote: faust for now.

SO the whole reason for your vote is that you feel bad about me? How am I "too sure of myself"? Care to give me something I can actually respond to? And what does the bolded sentence even mean?

[xeiron]

vote: Jotheonah.
He have been trying to spread doubt about players;

Not sure what to make of this at all. My gut reaction is to not believe ashersky, but I'm not all about gut reactions. Nonetheless, my conclusion about early ash semi-claims is not to act on them one way or another. No town cred, etc. Whatever scum!ash might have hoped to gain from the claim, we should be careful not to offer. If ash does anything to earn town cred down the line, maybe we give some more weight to the claim.

Not a fan of the day 1 mass claim, as per usual.

is it weird that Eevee is defending Ash's claim and Ash is nowhere to be seen?

Works for whom, that's the question.

And he have proposed lynches that is not really the best for eliminating scum.

You know what,

Vote:ashersky

Last game, he claimed off the bat, got town cred for it, and survived off that cred until the end of the game -- despite many people voicing concerns over his towniness. The fact is, FoSes without votes are just fine for scum.

Let's try lynching him this time! Even if he's town, at least we're not losing a useful power role.

Hey EFHW, your power is negative utility? Do you want a new one? We could lynch you! And test the everyone has two lives theory.

In general, it seems to me like Jotheonah is looking for reasons to lynch people, not looking for scum.

[Archetype]

I will have more time to collect my thoughts later today, but for now I will say that yes, I did target Voltaire last night.

When targeting Voltaire, did you think that he was scum or that he was town?

Vote: faust

Um, Archetype?  Care to explain?

I'm fairly certain Walrus is Town and feel like this is scum!faust fishing for information.

And what makes you so certain that Walrus is town?

Because he targeted Voltaire.

[faust]

I will have more time to collect my thoughts later today, but for now I will say that yes, I did target Voltaire last night.

When targeting Voltaire, did you think that he was scum or that he was town?

Vote: faust

Um, Archetype?  Care to explain?

I'm fairly certain Walrus is Town and feel like this is scum!faust fishing for information.

And what makes you so certain that Walrus is town?

Because he targeted Voltaire.

Why wouldn't scum target Voltaire?

[Archetype]

I didn't know it was fishing season.

[faust]

I'm just trying to understand what you're saying. If this is some kind of secret case, at least say that it's a secret case.

[xeiron]

So Archetype have some sorts of results that indicate Walrus is town...
That is interesting.
Town points for them both in my book.

[EFHW]

I'd vote jotheonah if there is interest.  He has not been his usual self.

[jotheonah]

Sorry, I've had a lot going on IRL. ANd for some reason this game is just not working for me. I have zero scum reads.

[xeiron]

Sorry, I've had a lot going on IRL. ANd for some reason this game is just not working for me. I have zero scum reads.

Do you have any townreads?

[jotheonah]

Voltaire? Maybe Archetype?

[EFHW]

this game is really dragging.  Don't we have a deadline soon?

[EFHW]

I see the deadline is Friday.  I felt like more days had gone by.  Talk people!

[yuma]

Vote Count 2.4

EFHW (1): faust
faust (2): Archetype, Walrus
Eevee (1): EFHW
jotheonah (1): xeiron

Not Voting (3): Voltaire, jotheonah, Eevee

With 8 alive it takes 5 to lynch.

Deadline for Day2 is 8 days and will be February 14 at 8 pm forum time.

[faust]

Voltaire? Maybe Archetype?

What makes Voltaire your town read? Weren't you voting for him last Day?

[faust]

Also, I'm less sure on EFHW. At least, she seems to push the game along, and we kind of need that. Also her latest posts read townier to me. Speaking of pushing the game along, where is Voltaire?

At this point, I could change my vote to jotheonah or Voltaire. Maybe Eevee, though his "I don't understand this, I'm out of here" seemed genuine to me.

[faust]

I didn't know it was fishing season.

You know, you were the one starting to fish for information with your question, and you never explained why this was important.

[jotheonah]

Ok, let's see if we can't liven things up. I am a dayvig. I very much want to shoot, but have not had a target I felt good about. I think my shot could be a fine and useful tool for town to ensure we get an actual flip (i.e. if you lynch someone other than me, I can shoot them and then we can lynch them again if we want to).

So I am now soliciting suggestions on who to shoot.

This, by the way, is the explanation for a lot of my weird play. Asking EFHW if she would be ok with dying to get rid of her negative utility role, asking everyone for a lynch choice outside of the challenge, even lessening my participation -- I've been trying hard not to paint a target on my head so I could survive long enough to use my power.

Now that I'm outed, though, I'd really really like to use it today.

[xeiron]

Also, I'm less sure on EFHW. At least, she seems to push the game along, and we kind of need that. Also her latest posts read townier to me. Speaking of pushing the game along, where is Voltaire?

At this point, I could change my vote to jotheonah or Voltaire. Maybe Eevee, though his "I don't understand this, I'm out of here" seemed genuine to me.

Townpoints to EFHW, and also yourself for trying to keep the game going.

[xeiron]

Ok, let's see if we can't liven things up. I am a dayvig. I very much want to shoot, but have not had a target I felt good about. I think my shot could be a fine and useful tool for town to ensure we get an actual flip (i.e. if you lynch someone other than me, I can shoot them and then we can lynch them again if we want to).

So I am now soliciting suggestions on who to shoot.

This, by the way, is the explanation for a lot of my weird play. Asking EFHW if she would be ok with dying to get rid of her negative utility role, asking everyone for a lynch choice outside of the challenge, even lessening my participation -- I've been trying hard not to paint a target on my head so I could survive long enough to use my power.

Now that I'm outed, though, I'd really really like to use it today.

A dayvig, that's interesting.

My list of lynch candidates today consists of Eevee and yourself. I suppose you will not shoot yourself, but what do you think about Eevee?