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Re: M90: Literature Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1200 on: January 03, 2017, 03:47:13 pm »

I mean, of course you would think this, everything that happens just further confirms what you already thought, is how this game seems to be going for you. Which is pretty townie, actually. Gah.

Yep, because I am town, and I have changed my mind on many things this game. I went back and forth on jreggie for awhile, I went back and forth on you for a bit. The only thing I haven't waivered on is eevee being scum.

Your Eevee read is what confounds me. It seems pretty obvious it was right, but you had it right so immediately... I mean, no offense, you're a decent scumhunter, but you really came right out of the gates with a perfect read? I'm so skeptical.

So how come you only have a scum read on me now. You have considered me extremely and agreed vaguely with me eevee read most of the game, you have just always been pitching "better" lynches but never really disagreeing with me. The only time you were suspicious of me was when I became suspicious of you but you immediately followed up with a statement saying that that was a silly thought and you should bury it. And now, once I am practically confirmed as being right you flip to thinking I am definitely scum.

This is mainly a post for the other townies since we all have a better understanding of our own interactions with people and why I really feel like robz is scum.

What's changed is that we pretty much know Eevee is scum. You wrongly tunneling town Eevee all game? Sure, town mcmc would do that. You calling Eevee correctly right off the bat and barely wavering (while also supporting mislynches and not actually getting Eevee lynched)? That seems scummier.

Also there are just very few people left now, 50% of everyone is scum.

Also also... I don't know, maybe you're not scum!

You keep saying I maintained a scum read on eevee while supporting mislynches but that's just wrong. I didnt support the silverspawn lynch, and I supported the jreggie lynch based largely off your arguments for why jreggie was a better option than eevee.
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Re: M90: Literature Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1201 on: January 03, 2017, 05:10:24 pm »

I'm ready to vote Eevee.  Is there anything else to add?
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Re: M90: Literature Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1202 on: January 03, 2017, 05:14:48 pm »

Me too, I guess the question is whether we have to talk about anything else.
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Re: M90: Literature Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1203 on: January 03, 2017, 05:15:53 pm »

Probably not, actually. Further discussion probably just helps scum, and we'll have more info tomorrow.

Vote: Eevee
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Re: M90: Literature Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1204 on: January 03, 2017, 06:20:18 pm »

How should more discussion be in the benefit of scum?
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Re: M90: Literature Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1205 on: January 03, 2017, 07:16:55 pm »

How should more discussion be in the benefit of scum?

It probably doesn't, but cluing them in to PRs would be the main worry.
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Re: M90: Literature Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1206 on: January 03, 2017, 07:19:55 pm »

Vote Count 3.1

Not Voting (6): Calamitas, SpaceAnemone, LaLight, Eevee, teamlyle, Witherweaver
Eevee (2): Robz888, mcmcsalot

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Re: M90: Literature Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1207 on: January 03, 2017, 09:18:27 pm »

prod: eevee
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Re: M90: Literature Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1208 on: January 03, 2017, 09:21:05 pm »

He was online earlier and didn't post. We're not going to hear from him again, I don't think.
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Re: M90: Literature Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1209 on: January 03, 2017, 09:24:44 pm »

He was online earlier and didn't post. We're not going to hear from him again, I don't think.
yeah, one might try though :D
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Re: M90: Literature Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1210 on: January 04, 2017, 04:05:04 am »

Vote: Eevee L-1

I'm thinking mcmc is town, so there would be quickhammer up to this time.
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Re: M90: Literature Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1211 on: January 04, 2017, 07:45:35 am »

Vote: Eevee L-1

I'm thinking mcmc is town, so there would be quickhammer up to this time.

You mean if Eevee were town after all? Probably. Well, I agree that mcmc and Robz certainly don't appear to be on the same faction, so there's clearly one non-scum on Eevee's tail already. I think it would be riskier to have that kind of scum-on-scum fall-out now with Robz and mcmc than it would have been back when mcmc and Eevee were doing it in the early game, though.
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Re: M90: Literature Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1212 on: January 04, 2017, 09:19:07 am »

Vote: Eevee
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Re: M90: Literature Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1213 on: January 04, 2017, 10:01:57 am »

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Re: M90: Literature Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1214 on: January 04, 2017, 10:22:35 am »

Vote: Eevee

You're scum and you won?

I am not.  I'm town and I hammered Eevee.
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Re: M90: Literature Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1215 on: January 04, 2017, 10:23:10 am »

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Re: M90: Literature Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1218 on: January 04, 2017, 10:33:04 am »

Oopsieeee.

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Re: M90: Literature Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1219 on: January 04, 2017, 11:11:51 am »

Day 3 Final Vote Count

Eevee (4): Robz888, mcmcsalot, LaLight, Witherweaver

Not Voting (4): Calamitas, SpaceAnemone, Eevee, teamlyle

With 7 alive, it took 4 to lynch. Twilight ends around 7:30 pm forum time.
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Re: M90: Literature Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1220 on: January 04, 2017, 12:36:03 pm »

@lalight (quotes are annoying)

How did witherweavers hammer look quick to you? I think it was rather towny, your vote looked scummier in my opinion. Especially because it seems like you were still thinking eevee might be town despite never arguing against lynching eevee.
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Re: M90: Literature Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1221 on: January 04, 2017, 12:37:55 pm »

@lalight (quotes are annoying)

How did witherweavers hammer look quick to you? I think it was rather towny, your vote looked scummier in my opinion. Especially because it seems like you were still thinking eevee might be town despite never arguing against lynching eevee.

I was not thinking Eevee is townie after he confused Tracker and Watcher. Though looked like WW came online and hammered quickly.

Why did my vote look scummier?
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Re: M90: Literature Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1222 on: January 04, 2017, 12:45:54 pm »

In my opinion this day went really really well for town. We needed to lynch scum and we wanted to do it without using teamlyles vote which we did.

I feel like eevee/robz really fumbled the day due to the messed up claim and robz trying too hard to save the scum team via manipulating me.

The fact that we had really good discussion I think comes from the fact that we had active and intelligent townies amount me/ww/space stimulating discussion.

Lalaight has continued to look scummy today and looks really bad from wagon analysis but is helping lynch eevee which scum wouldn't want to do.

Then you have cal who if I remember correctly has said pretty much nothing the whole day, his request to prod eevee was pretty silly and useless which in turn means scummy because today scum was in a weird position not wanting to help get eevee lynched but also not wanting to out themselves so making contributions that did nothing are scummy.
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Re: M90: Literature Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1223 on: January 04, 2017, 12:46:42 pm »

In my opinion this day went really really well for town. We needed to lynch scum and we wanted to do it without using teamlyles vote which we did.

I feel like eevee/robz really fumbled the day due to the messed up claim and robz trying too hard to save the scum team via manipulating me.

The fact that we had really good discussion I think comes from the fact that we had active and intelligent townies amount me/ww/space stimulating discussion.

Lalaight has continued to look scummy today and looks really bad from wagon analysis but is helping lynch eevee which scum wouldn't want to do.

Then you have cal who if I remember correctly has said pretty much nothing the whole day, his request to prod eevee was pretty silly and useless which in turn means scummy because today scum was in a weird position not wanting to help get eevee lynched but also not wanting to out themselves so making contributions that did nothing are scummy.

Eevee/Robz/Calamitas team?
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Re: M90: Literature Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1224 on: January 04, 2017, 12:49:41 pm »

Eevee is too good to screw this up, there is some kind of plot going on with certainty. I guess scum has seen a path to victory they reach by assuring eevee gets lynched today, it reminds me of the thing robz and I pulled in M88.
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