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Author Topic: M78: Insomnia Mafia- Game Over, Scum Wins!  (Read 180834 times)

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Re: M78: Insomnia Mafia- Day Four
« Reply #1600 on: April 07, 2016, 02:23:35 pm »

In fact, let me make this statement:

scum!scott would not have killed yuma.

People voting for scott, please refute this.
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Re: M78: Insomnia Mafia- Day One
« Reply #1601 on: April 07, 2016, 02:25:26 pm »

On D3, he gets in when gkrieg is at L-1 and is suspicious of that wagon. I don't know. It's certainly a thing to try and get something onto WW as scum, but at that point it seems really difficult to do that. And scum!scott would 100% have had all the things figured out when they killed yuma. So what does that leave me with...? scum!scott means that scum knew that killing yuma would make gkrieg look very bad. If they went through with it anyway, I would assume that they push that lynch hard. scott didn't do that. In the end, this means a town read.

You mean, like you did?
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Re: M78: Insomnia Mafia- Day One
« Reply #1602 on: April 07, 2016, 02:25:58 pm »

On D3, he gets in when gkrieg is at L-1 and is suspicious of that wagon. I don't know. It's certainly a thing to try and get something onto WW as scum, but at that point it seems really difficult to do that. And scum!scott would 100% have had all the things figured out when they killed yuma. So what does that leave me with...? scum!scott means that scum knew that killing yuma would make gkrieg look very bad. If they went through with it anyway, I would assume that they push that lynch hard. scott didn't do that. In the end, this means a town read.

You mean, like you did?

Yes. And like Teproc did.
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Re: M78: Insomnia Mafia- Day Four
« Reply #1603 on: April 07, 2016, 02:34:58 pm »

scum!scott would not have killed yuma.

Mhpf. I agree.

He was not alone though. But yeah meh. unvote

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Re: M78: Insomnia Mafia- Day Four
« Reply #1604 on: April 07, 2016, 02:35:47 pm »

Catching up now
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Re: M78: Insomnia Mafia- Day Four
« Reply #1605 on: April 07, 2016, 02:51:52 pm »

scum!scott would not have killed yuma.

Well I know I'm biased but I think this is actually a really good point.
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Re: M78: Insomnia Mafia- Day Four
« Reply #1606 on: April 07, 2016, 02:58:04 pm »

scum!scott would not have killed yuma.

Well I know I'm biased but I think this is actually a really good point.

Why, what would you have done?
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Re: M78: Insomnia Mafia- Day Four
« Reply #1607 on: April 07, 2016, 03:00:45 pm »

I'm a little wary of faust because I feel like he's agreed with me on basically everything this game.  At first I thought Teproc's case on him looked really solid, but then faust's defense looked really solid too.  My gut says one of {faust, Teproc} is scum, and I think it's more likely Teproc, but at this point I'm worried that it's just a bias that I'm carrying over from earlier in the game.  Otherwise, there's:

EgorK - town
Hydrad - null
Witherweaver - null
silverspawn - scum

I still think silverspawn is the best lynch just based on D3.  But that's just based on my memory of it, I want to go back and reread silverspawn at some point, maybe later tonight.
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Re: M78: Insomnia Mafia- Day Four
« Reply #1608 on: April 07, 2016, 03:01:41 pm »

scum!scott would not have killed yuma.

Well I know I'm biased but I think this is actually a really good point.

Why, what would you have done?

I don't know...not go after a likely doc target?
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Re: M78: Insomnia Mafia- Day Four
« Reply #1609 on: April 07, 2016, 03:02:22 pm »

Although I guess to be fair, I don't really see any of the currently alive players doing that...
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Re: M78: Insomnia Mafia- Day Four
« Reply #1610 on: April 07, 2016, 03:03:22 pm »

scum!scott would not have killed yuma.

Well I know I'm biased but I think this is actually a really good point.

Why, what would you have done?

I don't know...not go after a likely doc target?

Er.. why?
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Re: M78: Insomnia Mafia- Day Four
« Reply #1611 on: April 07, 2016, 03:06:31 pm »

I'm a little wary of faust because I feel like he's agreed with me on basically everything this game.  At first I thought Teproc's case on him looked really solid, but then faust's defense looked really solid too.  My gut says one of {faust, Teproc} is scum, and I think it's more likely Teproc, but at this point I'm worried that it's just a bias that I'm carrying over from earlier in the game.

Actually...I feel like this whole game I've mentally just given faust a pass because he's agree with me on everything and assumed Teproc is scum because he disagrees with me on everything.  Now I'm super worried this whole time scum!faust has been doing this to get me on his side.
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Re: M78: Insomnia Mafia- Day Four
« Reply #1612 on: April 07, 2016, 03:07:11 pm »

scum!scott would not have killed yuma.

Well I know I'm biased but I think this is actually a really good point.

Why, what would you have done?

I don't know...not go after a likely doc target?

Er.. why?

So that my partner doesn't get lynched when the kill goes through?
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Re: M78: Insomnia Mafia- Day Four
« Reply #1613 on: April 07, 2016, 03:08:16 pm »

I'm a little wary of faust because I feel like he's agreed with me on basically everything this game.  At first I thought Teproc's case on him looked really solid, but then faust's defense looked really solid too.  My gut says one of {faust, Teproc} is scum, and I think it's more likely Teproc, but at this point I'm worried that it's just a bias that I'm carrying over from earlier in the game.

Actually...I feel like this whole game I've mentally just given faust a pass because he's agree with me on everything and assumed Teproc is scum because he disagrees with me on everything.  Now I'm super worried this whole time scum!faust has been doing this to get me on his side.

Although why does scum buddy me specifically, that seems like something people always bring up but in practice doesn't really happen.
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Re: M78: Insomnia Mafia- Day Four
« Reply #1614 on: April 07, 2016, 03:11:56 pm »

Well food for thought; you're scum!Doctor... do you bring up the idea of Doctoring your partner?
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Re: M78: Insomnia Mafia- Day Four
« Reply #1615 on: April 07, 2016, 03:14:42 pm »

Reasonable scenario is that Gkrieg (having just subbed in) didn't really look back at everything, thought Faust was townie (which, if Faust is town, one would exaggerate as scum since they know it to be true), and thought he was the most sensible Doctor target.  So Gkreig just did what he would think he would do as town.  Then partners thought it would be good to kill  Yuma.
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Re: M78: Insomnia Mafia- Day Four
« Reply #1616 on: April 07, 2016, 03:16:02 pm »

It's possible scum did not consider Yuma the 'obvious' choice for Doctor anyway; I didn't, after all. 
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Re: M78: Insomnia Mafia- Day Four
« Reply #1617 on: April 07, 2016, 03:43:20 pm »

Wait. What are we even talking about? With scum in the doc neighborhood, mafia knew that yuma was not protected, so killing him was safe.

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Re: M78: Insomnia Mafia- Day Four
« Reply #1618 on: April 07, 2016, 04:35:13 pm »

Why is S_P less likely than anyone else to have killed yuma ? I truly don't follow...
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Re: M78: Insomnia Mafia- Day Four
« Reply #1619 on: April 07, 2016, 04:36:10 pm »

If the idea is that S_P would have realised it meant gkrieg's likely death, then you're basically arguing the scum team is Hydrad and.... maybe EgorK ? Really though Hydrad is about the only player who I could see not realising that, and even then I'm not so sure.
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Re: M78: Insomnia Mafia- Day Four
« Reply #1620 on: April 07, 2016, 04:45:37 pm »

scott is more of a maths guy and is more likely to think of who is being protected

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Re: M78: Insomnia Mafia- Day Four
« Reply #1621 on: April 07, 2016, 04:48:24 pm »

Again, any team of two you can think of could've seen how killing yuma was going to put gkrieg in danger.

In fact I'd put S_P among the most likely to not think of that simply because he's had periods of inactivity, and if that happened during the night he might have not had the time to think about it that much.

I doubt this is faust's argument though.
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Re: M78: Insomnia Mafia- Day Four
« Reply #1622 on: April 07, 2016, 04:49:31 pm »

Wait. What are we even talking about? With scum in the doc neighborhood, mafia knew that yuma was not protected, so killing him was safe.

the argument is invalid anyway.

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Re: M78: Insomnia Mafia- Day Four
« Reply #1623 on: April 07, 2016, 04:50:57 pm »

Wait, ok that argument makes even less sense than the one I thought I was responding to.
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Re: M78: Insomnia Mafia- Day Four
« Reply #1624 on: April 07, 2016, 05:02:41 pm »

Wait, ok that argument makes even less sense than the one I thought I was responding to.

why
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