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[gkrieg13]

The towniest I have ever seen Joseph act was in duel mafia, where he was scum.

[JaketheBaseballGod22]

Joseph just seems a little off on his stunts this game. I feel like he as scum would do a stunt like this knowing theirs a chance that people would view it as bad town play therefore making him much less likely to lynch. I also think that at least 1 of the vets pushing a no lynch is scum.

[Roadrunner7671]

1 of the vets pushing a no lynch

Um...

[faust]

Joseph just seems a little off on his stunts this game. I feel like he as scum would do a stunt like this knowing theirs a chance that people would view it as bad town play therefore making him much less likely to lynch. I also think that at least 1 of the vets pushing a no lynch is scum.

Someone is pushing a no lynch?

[The_Wine_Merchant]

I have counted multiple veterans read Joseph as a strong town (RR, gkrieg, IDPTG, EFHW, faust, Calamitas). And while I don't understand that or agree with them it does encompass half of the players in the game and certainly includes a significant number of town players.

So while I disagree, I suppose I need to concede both that we aren't going to be able to get a lynch on him without movement from that group (unlikely, I think given they were all fairly adamant about their town read on him) and that I might just be reading Joseph wrong given that I haven't played with him before.

unvote

I still think his actions look like something that mafia might do and if those above change their minds I would likely go back to voting him. Further, if I am wrong and Joseph is town I would encourage him to avoid doing such things to make a significant number of people think you are mafia in the future.

I've never played with Joseph, and it could be that he acts crazy independent of alignment. It still seemed forced, to me.

I agree. But there is a large enough majority of players that going down that road seems to be an exercise in futility. I didn't even include Joseph in that grouping and he obviously won't vote for himself. So unless something from them changes I think we need to look elsewhere. I just don't really know where, nothing else really jumped out to me thus far except for that.

[Robz888]

Joseph just seems a little off on his stunts this game. I feel like he as scum would do a stunt like this knowing theirs a chance that people would view it as bad town play therefore making him much less likely to lynch. I also think that at least 1 of the vets pushing a no lynch is scum.

No one is pushing No Lynch. We still have lots of time.

[Joseph2302]

Joseph just seems a little off on his stunts this game. I feel like he as scum would do a stunt like this knowing theirs a chance that people would view it as bad town play therefore making him much less likely to lynch. I also think that at least 1 of the vets pushing a no lynch is scum.

No one is pushing No Lynch. We still have lots of time.

We have ages til the deadline. And everyone knows mislynch is bad.

[schadd]

Vote Count 1.2

Joseph2302 (4): Awaclus, mcmcsalot, JaketheBaseballGod22, Robz888
Robz888 (2): faust, Joseph2302

Not Voting (6): Calamitas, gkrieg13, IDontPlayThisGame, EFHW, The_Wine_Merchant, Roadrunner7671

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Day 1 ends at Jan. 7th at 12:00 pm forum time.

[Joseph2302]

Joseph just seems a little off on his stunts this game. I feel like he as scum would do a stunt like this knowing theirs a chance that people would view it as bad town play therefore making him much less likely to lynch. I also think that at least 1 of the vets pushing a no lynch is scum.

No one is pushing No Lynch. We still have lots of time.

We have ages til the deadline. And everyone knows mislynch is bad.

Meant no lynch here.
Mislynch is also bad though.

[Awaclus]

Why aren't we lynching Joseph already? He clearly wants to mislynch people.

[Joseph2302]

Why aren't we lynching Joseph already? He clearly wants to mislynch people.

Mislynch is bad.
But no lynch is worse.

Also, Vote: clus

[gkrieg13]

Why aren't we lynching Joseph already? He clearly wants to mislynch people.

Mislynch is bad.
But no lynch is worse.

Also, Vote: clus

Not really true. But anyway

[Robz888]

Why aren't we lynching Joseph already? He clearly wants to mislynch people.

Mislynch is bad.
But no lynch is worse.

Also, Vote: clus

Again, I have to imagine this manner of voting is frustrating to the mod. It's incredibly confusing to me.

[schadd]

Why aren't we lynching Joseph already? He clearly wants to mislynch people.

Mislynch is bad.
But no lynch is worse.

Also, Vote: clus

Again, I have to imagine this manner of voting is frustrating to the mod. It's incredibly confusing to me.

i'm fine with it; i added a do-at-your-own-risk clause to the rules

[The_Wine_Merchant]

Why aren't we lynching Joseph already? He clearly wants to mislynch people.

Mislynch is bad.
But no lynch is worse.

Also, Vote: clus

You are just being annoying. Many individuals have asked you repeatedly to stop. Can you please recognize that your actions are frustrating to others trying to play this game.

[The_Wine_Merchant]

vote: joseph

[The_Wine_Merchant]

So here is the thing. Joseph right now, I think feels that he has a free pass, as multiple people have said he is townie if he acts crazy. So he has to continue that charade for the sake of conforming to what multiple people say they expect of him. He has to continue to be weird and strange and nonsensical and do annoying things. Because that is what the people want from him. I think if he were town, he would just stop acting that way and act with a semblance of normalcy. He hasn't, so I don't think he is town and I think the people who are not voting for him should listen to me, even I am a new player. I am coming at this without bias or much previous knowledge and I think others are overly relying on their previous biases and expectations.

[faust]

So here is the thing. Joseph right now, I think feels that he has a free pass, as multiple people have said he is townie if he acts crazy. So he has to continue that charade for the sake of conforming to what multiple people say they expect of him. He has to continue to be weird and strange and nonsensical and do annoying things. Because that is what the people want from him. I think if he were town, he would just stop acting that way and act with a semblance of normalcy. He hasn't, so I don't think he is town and I think the people who are not voting for him should listen to me, even I am a new player. I am coming at this without bias or much previous knowledge and I think others are overly relying on their previous biases and expectations.

You know, there is actually a lot of sense in this.

Vote: Joseph this is L-1.

[Robz888]

So here is the thing. Joseph right now, I think feels that he has a free pass, as multiple people have said he is townie if he acts crazy. So he has to continue that charade for the sake of conforming to what multiple people say they expect of him. He has to continue to be weird and strange and nonsensical and do annoying things. Because that is what the people want from him. I think if he were town, he would just stop acting that way and act with a semblance of normalcy. He hasn't, so I don't think he is town and I think the people who are not voting for him should listen to me, even I am a new player. I am coming at this without bias or much previous knowledge and I think others are overly relying on their previous biases and expectations.

You know, there is actually a lot of sense in this.

Vote: Joseph this is L-1.

I think so too.

[Roadrunner7671]

I don't intend to hammer, but I want Joseph to know that he's been less and less towny. That being said, I seriously doubt Joseph will get lynched today so it doesn't really matter

[Robz888]

I don't intend to hammer, but I want Joseph to know that he's been less and less towny. That being said, I seriously doubt Joseph will get lynched today so it doesn't really matter

Why do you doubt it?

[Joseph2302]

I don't intend to hammer, but I want Joseph to know that he's been less and less towny. That being said, I seriously doubt Joseph will get lynched today so it doesn't really matter

If you hammer me, then based on how much everyone else has posted this game, this game will just turn into a game of lurkers, like so many other games on here.

[Joseph2302]

Why aren't we lynching Joseph already? He clearly wants to mislynch people.

Mislynch is bad.
But no lynch is worse.

Also, Vote: clus

Again, I have to imagine this manner of voting is frustrating to the mod. It's incredibly confusing to me.

i'm fine with it; i added a do-at-your-own-risk clause to the rules

If it's fine, then what's the problem?
Other people are allowed to use stupid nicknames, so why not me?

[Robz888]

It's time for your claim, Joseph.

[Awaclus]

I don't intend to hammer, but I want Joseph to know that he's been less and less towny. That being said, I seriously doubt Joseph will get lynched today so it doesn't really matter

If you hammer me, then based on how much everyone else has posted this game, this game will just turn into a game of lurkers, like so many other games on here.

Someone hammer him. If he was town, he wouldn't have to threaten us like this, he could legitimately defend himself instead.