to both of you then: maybe I am not understanding what you are saying then...
Voltaire seems to be saying:
I have a scumread on yuma. He's pushed Robz without voting and chairs without voting, right? I see that as yuma gently trying to start wagons.
pushing wagons...
But I also know that scumYuma is seven kinds of clever and would use this tactic to get something started as scum. It's my usual voting strategy (vote after moving through several levels of subtle) and I'm standing by it (for now). I do like what you're doing - your play has been helpful - but hasn't made you town in my eyes
doing what scum!yuma would do... "which has been helpful" but doesn't make me town. Yes, but it doesn't make me scum.
Are you "bringing things up and probing and trying to get answers" or are you just offering up subtle scummy wagons for the town to jump on? I lean toward the second. (Yes, you did state you think mcmc is town - that's your only town read that has stuck out to me). And as you admit, scumYuma would do the same thing.
why toward the second? what makes you think the second as opposed to the first? There must be something yes, but until you do, my automatic reaction is "tricky yuma syndrome" because it has happened repeatedly in the past.
spiritbears:
This is almost entirely a copy of your case against him in mean girls. You were wrong then as scum
You are wrong now too I think
vote yuma
voting me for building a similar case as I did as scum. Maybe valid... but the point I am trying to make is that I play the same as town and mafia. So how do you separate the two? How is it that you think this is scum!yuma as opposed to town!yuma...?
I'm saying your case was bad then, your case is bad now....you either 1) don't read mai too well, or 2) are scum pushing a weak case or 3) are town pushing a weak bad case for some other reason
I'm going with 2 for now
you completely leave off the possibility of mail-mi being mafia... which is very possible because he has been scummy in this game. That doesn't make him auto-scum, but he has been. Robz and lio agree with me.
So while both are voting me for different reasons I see the underlying reasons as a distrust of me from the get-go. Not based off my actions in this game, but a distrust of my meta. Meta reasons are a way to vote, I think they are generally pretty lame... but this is going into a game thinking "I need to be wary of yuma" and then automatically viewing my posts and cases as either "bad" or "scummy" or both because of it. Sure, be wary of everyone. That is the point of this game, but I feel that I am being targeted based off my previous play. And look... I am not mad about it. That is what I get for having success, but it is frustrating because it ultimately means that my cases are not being listened to and my views are not going to be taken as strongly because of this. And as a town player where my main weapon is my voice and my vote, that impeads me and I think ultimately hurts town. So I am trying to show you that I think you are being distracted by my meta and allowing it to cloud your view of me.
maybe I am wrong... but that is where I am coming from.