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[sparky5856]

I'm inclined to think this is scum pulling a gambit, because, well, I'm a freakin' VT. but why now? We were probably gonna lynch Axxle anyways. :/

[sparky5856]

I want to know specifically how you got this information. Don't say that it was included in your PM, because it would be bastard of the mod to give the information if you're a specific VT.

[Cuzz]

I want to know specifically how you got this information. Don't say that it was included in your PM, because it would be bastard of the mod to give the information if you're a specific VT.

It was included in my PM. And why is that bastard of the mod? I would assume cayvie also gave joth (again, the ONLY other actual VT in the game) some little nugget of info too.

[shraeye]

I'm inclined to think this is scum pulling a gambit, because, well, I'm a freakin' VT. but why now? We were probably gonna lynch Axxle anyways. :/

If Cuzz is pulling a crazy gambit, then we will find out as soon as we lynch one of you.  I say we follow Cuzz until he's wrong.

[sparky5856]

I want to know specifically how you got this information. Don't say that it was included in your PM, because it would be bastard of the mod to give the information if you're a specific VT.

It was included in my PM. And why is that bastard of the mod? I would assume cayvie also gave joth (again, the ONLY other actual VT in the game) some little nugget of info too.

In the last game, VT's has no extra info whatsoever. Now, they apparently do? Wouldn't that make the game unbalanced, for ALL of the town players to have at least some power?

I'm inclined to think this is scum pulling a gambit, because, well, I'm a freakin' VT. but why now? We were probably gonna lynch Axxle anyways. :/

If Cuzz is pulling a crazy gambit, then we will find out as soon as we lynch one of you.  I say we follow Cuzz until he's wrong.

Yeah but I thought Axxle was scum anyway. We can't just take his word if we lynch just one of us. In fact I'm never taking his word.

[sparky5856]

I was drawing a mostly-null read on Lekkit fwiw, he could go either way.

[Cuzz]

I was drawing a mostly-null read on Lekkit fwiw, he could go either way.

Naw, he's scum too.

[sparky5856]

Consider: as soon as we lynch me or one of Axxle/Lekkit if they do end up flipping VT, Cuzz is as good as dead. So why then? I don't think that was a particularly smart move.

[Cuzz]

I want to know specifically how you got this information. Don't say that it was included in your PM, because it would be bastard of the mod to give the information if you're a specific VT.

It was included in my PM. And why is that bastard of the mod? I would assume cayvie also gave joth (again, the ONLY other actual VT in the game) some little nugget of info too.

In the last game, VT's has no extra info whatsoever. Now, they apparently do? Wouldn't that make the game unbalanced, for ALL of the town players to have at least some power?

Is this directed at me? Am I supposed to say "oh, you're right, that would make the game unbalanced. Forget I said anything."?

Town had three scum teams to deal with, one scum MA, plus two vigs who can often be negative utility. A priori the game was probably reasonably balanced.

Anyway, from your perspective, I'm definitively lying scum so I can't understand why you're not voting for me.

[sparky5856]

It was worse last game. We had three scum teams, TWO scum MA plus EVERY possible vig. The setup in this game ended up being more favorable for town, WITHOUT the extra info that the VT's got, as you claim.

And in fact, voting for you sounds like an excellent idea. THAT I agree with. VOTE: Cuzz.

[sparky5856]

And if you should know, I was waiting for everyone else to provide their input, as I always like to do.

[Archetype]

Actually, better idea:

We lynch one of sparky or Lekkit today (I'm leaning sparky) and their flip. If they're scum, we lynch the other.

Meanwhile, I'll Roleblock Axxle until I get NKed. Or I guess I could Roleblock Lekkit. It shouldnt matter if sparky is scum.

[shraeye]

Consider: as soon as we lynch me or one of Axxle/Lekkit if they do end up flipping VT, Cuzz is as good as dead. So why then? I don't think that was a particularly smart move.

This is exactly the reason why it ISNT a gambit.  Dumbest gambit I've ever heard of.

[shraeye]

Actually, better idea:

We lynch one of sparky or Lekkit today (I'm leaning sparky) and their flip. If they're scum, we lynch the other.

Meanwhile, I'll Roleblock Axxle until I get NKed. Or I guess I could Roleblock Lekkit. It shouldnt matter if sparky is scum.

Yup, I think sparky is a good lynch.

[Archetype]

The more I read sparky's 'defense' the more I think Cuzz's claim is true.

Seems I've got a mason to back me up, but I want to see Lekkit's and Axxle's responses (namely Lekkit, Axxle is confSK to me and dont care too much about what he says).

[sparky5856]

What do you want me to say? He's lying, but how can I prove it? You don't know what I am, so you could disbelieve me instead, even though I know he's lying.

[Grujah]

Jo also had extra info:

He said that he knew something about the number of the swords.

So, I am willing to accept that VTs, in fact, do have extra info.

[Grujah]

Here's the post:

Wow a lot happened while I was asleep.

I have a piece of setup info that would allow us to clear Robz with a very limited massclaim.

Basically, everyone would need to claim sword or not sword. I am aware of Volt's power in MA1. I have some reason to believe its unlikely we're in a parallel situation.

[Grujah]

Btw my theory was that cuz the Moon died, only werewolf powers worked during the night.

[Grujah]

vote: sparky

[Grujah]

Though, if true, this is kinda cruel towards scum. I mean, fakeclaiming is even harder for them. 

[shraeye]

vote: sparky

[Grujah]

oh, and I'll be less active, skiing trip next 5 days.

[Archetype]

Vote: sparky

[Grujah]

Wait, if we trust Arch (and we ought to if we trust Cuzz), than Axxle is SK or last mafia, so we should lynch him first to reduce night deaths, maybe?