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Re: M50: A Song Of Ice And Fire Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #2025 on: September 23, 2014, 06:51:22 pm »

great.

ash, please investigate me in the following night. or, voltaire, track me (if hydrad flips scum). Assuming a 3 scum team, if I am the only scum left, I'm the only one who can perform the night kill. that's how it works, right?

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Re: M50: A Song Of Ice And Fire Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #2026 on: September 23, 2014, 06:52:24 pm »

If you don't lynch me today, just investigate me and you'll see that I'm town.

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Re: M50: A Song Of Ice And Fire Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #2027 on: September 23, 2014, 06:52:48 pm »

If you don't lynch me today, just investigate me and you'll see that I'm town.

This is known as "claiming Godfather".
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Re: Re: M50: A Song Of Ice And Fire Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #2028 on: September 23, 2014, 06:52:53 pm »

Voltaire, I'm assuming you wanted to be Hand of the King for the Strongman part right ?

PPE : Great, now silverspawn is softclaiming Godfather.
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Re: M50: A Song Of Ice And Fire Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #2029 on: September 23, 2014, 06:53:46 pm »

I want to be investigated because i'm TOWN.

I'm sure there's also a role that's immune to tracking. nexus? did I softclaim Nexus now too?

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Re: Re: M50: A Song Of Ice And Fire Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #2030 on: September 23, 2014, 06:54:29 pm »

I want to be investigated because i'm TOWN.

I'm sure there's also a role that's immune to tracking. nexus? did I softclaim Nexus now too?

Ninja. Yes.

Don't ever tell PRs what to do.
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Re: Re: M50: A Song Of Ice And Fire Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #2031 on: September 23, 2014, 06:54:33 pm »

Voltaire, I'm assuming you wanted to be Hand of the King for the Strongman part right ?

PPE : Great, now silverspawn is softclaiming Godfather.

Yes, which was a tricky line to walk, without outing I was a PR to my house. Fortunately, they decided my work on the PPS lynch was enough to trust me with our Priming/Ignition, and I then happily got to be a Strongman Tracker too.
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Re: Re: M50: A Song Of Ice And Fire Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #2032 on: September 23, 2014, 06:55:37 pm »

So why would it be townie for Hydrad to want to use the power since he's claiming VT ?
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« Reply #2033 on: September 23, 2014, 06:56:06 pm »

So why would it be townie for Hydrad to want to use the power since he's claiming VT ?

Hmmm? He didn't want to use it himself, he wanted me to use it.
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Re: M50: A Song Of Ice And Fire Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #2034 on: September 23, 2014, 06:56:15 pm »

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sure. do whatever. apparently I'm a godfather now, so even if he does investigate me, it doesn't prove my innocence.

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Re: Re: M50: A Song Of Ice And Fire Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #2035 on: September 23, 2014, 06:56:56 pm »

So why would it be townie for Hydrad to want to use the power since he's claiming VT ?

Hmmm? He didn't want to use it himself, he wanted me to use it.

Yeah but the Baratheon power is anti town. Wanting someone, anyone, to use it is bad.
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Re: Re: M50: A Song Of Ice And Fire Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #2036 on: September 23, 2014, 06:58:07 pm »

Basically had I been in your house, I would not have given you hand of the king. Sure, you're most likely town, but I wouldn't risk giving scum an extra kill.

Did Egork also vote for you ?
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« Reply #2037 on: September 23, 2014, 06:58:40 pm »

So why would it be townie for Hydrad to want to use the power since he's claiming VT ?

Hmmm? He didn't want to use it himself, he wanted me to use it.

Yeah but the Baratheon power is anti town. Wanting someone, anyone, to use it is bad.

Wait...could this be an indication that Hydrad and his partner were both in Baratheon? That they wouldn't be legal targets?
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Re: Re: M50: A Song Of Ice And Fire Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #2038 on: September 23, 2014, 06:59:02 pm »

Basically had I been in your house, I would not have given you hand of the king. Sure, you're most likely town, but I wouldn't risk giving scum an extra kill.

Did Egork also vote for you ?

EgorK did not vote. azadin voted for himself. Everyone else voted for me.
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Re: Re: M50: A Song Of Ice And Fire Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #2039 on: September 23, 2014, 07:05:02 pm »

So why would it be townie for Hydrad to want to use the power since he's claiming VT ?

Hmmm? He didn't want to use it himself, he wanted me to use it.

Yeah but the Baratheon power is anti town. Wanting someone, anyone, to use it is bad.

Wait...could this be an indication that Hydrad and his partner were both in Baratheon? That they wouldn't be legal targets?

I think i warned everyone that that could happen
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Re: Re: M50: A Song Of Ice And Fire Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #2040 on: September 23, 2014, 07:05:14 pm »

Basically had I been in your house, I would not have given you hand of the king. Sure, you're most likely town, but I wouldn't risk giving scum an extra kill.

Did Egork also vote for you ?

EgorK did not vote. azadin voted for himself. Everyone else voted for me.

That's silverspawn and you then.

Silver, why did you vote for Voltaire to have an anti-town power we had agreed not to use ?
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Re: M50: A Song Of Ice And Fire Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #2041 on: September 23, 2014, 07:05:25 pm »

in the QT at least. Just going from memory. I know I at least thought it.
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Re: Re: M50: A Song Of Ice And Fire Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #2042 on: September 23, 2014, 07:06:10 pm »

Town is way too powerful if everyone is telling the truth. Even is silver is lying. I'm starting to think there are two scum factions.

silver, post in the Baratheon QT what result you get if your target isn't Realm-Aligned/Innocent. Ask faust if you need to.

what?

Are you going to do this, silver?
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Re: M50: A Song Of Ice And Fire Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #2043 on: September 23, 2014, 07:07:00 pm »

btw, complete disagreement that the power is, in a vacuum, anti-town. It's a form of a Vig. But that's an academic debate.
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Re: Re: M50: A Song Of Ice And Fire Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #2044 on: September 23, 2014, 07:07:31 pm »

Basically had I been in your house, I would not have given you hand of the king. Sure, you're most likely town, but I wouldn't risk giving scum an extra kill.

Did Egork also vote for you ?

EgorK did not vote. azadin voted for himself. Everyone else voted for me.

That's silverspawn and you then.

Silver, why did you vote for Voltaire to have an anti-town power we had agreed not to use ?

i have never agreed not to use it. I have said several times during D1 that I shared Hydrad's opinion about it (which is that it's a strong power and should not be given up). You'll see that if you reread me.

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Re: M50: A Song Of Ice And Fire Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #2045 on: September 23, 2014, 07:08:04 pm »

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Re: Re: M50: A Song Of Ice And Fire Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #2046 on: September 23, 2014, 07:10:22 pm »

It's anti-town because it can be used as an additional NK by scum.

Vigs are not anti-town, but that's because their NK is always controlled by town.

I can't believe people actually considered using it.
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Re: Re: M50: A Song Of Ice And Fire Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #2047 on: September 23, 2014, 07:11:29 pm »

Even moreso because it goes like this : N1 some person of unknown alignment ignites someone. Later, some person of unknown alignement will get to kill that person. So evne if you're town using the power, the kill might still be controlled by scum.

How is that not anti town ?
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Re: M50: A Song Of Ice And Fire Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #2048 on: September 23, 2014, 07:14:07 pm »

Ok just curious. Is there anyone in this game that doesn't think I'm scum?
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« Reply #2049 on: September 23, 2014, 07:15:33 pm »

Even moreso because it goes like this : N1 some person of unknown alignment ignites someone. Later, some person of unknown alignement will get to kill that person. So evne if you're town using the power, the kill might still be controlled by scum.

How is that not anti town ?

Oh, it totally is.
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