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Re: M127: Customer Service Hotline Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1025 on: June 14, 2020, 10:43:12 pm »

I’m a vanilla townie, too
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Re: M127: Customer Service Hotline Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1026 on: June 14, 2020, 11:01:51 pm »

So is yuma town now as well e?
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Re: M127: Customer Service Hotline Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1027 on: June 14, 2020, 11:14:58 pm »

So is yuma town now as well e?

who would you like to answer this question?
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Re: M127: Customer Service Hotline Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1028 on: June 14, 2020, 11:19:44 pm »

So is yuma town now as well e?

who would you like to answer this question?

It was meant more sarcastically then anything. But do you have an opinion?
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Re: M127: Customer Service Hotline Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1029 on: June 14, 2020, 11:23:17 pm »

So is yuma town now as well e?

who would you like to answer this question?

It was meant more sarcastically then anything. But do you have an opinion?

I do... but I would out any potential plans, if that makes sense, by giving them. Which I am fine with, but want to make sure we are on the same page first.
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Re: M127: Customer Service Hotline Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1030 on: June 14, 2020, 11:26:01 pm »

So is yuma town now as well e?

who would you like to answer this question?

It was meant more sarcastically then anything. But do you have an opinion?

I do... but I would out any potential plans, if that makes sense, by giving them. Which I am fine with, but want to make sure we are on the same page first.

I am not on the same page and have no idea what you're talking about
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Re: M127: Customer Service Hotline Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1031 on: June 14, 2020, 11:36:44 pm »

So is yuma town now as well e?
I am. But I am?
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Re: M127: Customer Service Hotline Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1032 on: June 14, 2020, 11:37:36 pm »

So is yuma town now as well e?

who would you like to answer this question?

It was meant more sarcastically then anything. But do you have an opinion?

I do... but I would out any potential plans, if that makes sense, by giving them. Which I am fine with, but want to make sure we are on the same page first.

I am not on the same page and have no idea what you're talking about
Yeah... what is going on? Swowl how was the beer garden?
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Re: M127: Customer Service Hotline Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1033 on: June 14, 2020, 11:42:06 pm »

So is yuma town now as well e?

who would you like to answer this question?

It was meant more sarcastically then anything. But do you have an opinion?

I do... but I would out any potential plans, if that makes sense, by giving them. Which I am fine with, but want to make sure we are on the same page first.

I am not on the same page and have no idea what you're talking about

ah ok then nvm. doesn't really matter I suppose in that case. I thought it was possible that you might of had a plan moving regarding the gov shot.

my opinion is E! is skum. also, if E! is skum, obviously it does not make Yuma town. If they are both town... ok but then skum has to be WCD/LL... which with the way LL claimed, and what they claimed, I find that combo unlikely. So from where I sit it is either E!/WCD, E!/Yuma, or WCD/Yuma.
That plus I do not think, even with the gov shot in play, given how you pushed E!, that if E! was town skum would hesitate to join wagon. Which is why I was waiting for Yuma to check in.

If LL is in fact Watcher, then we have 4 letters in play. That means skum team rolled RB, 2shot Ninja, Strongman. The only thing that has me suspicious about LL at all is the fact that if skum had a 2 shot Ninja and a Strongman the whole time... like why are you still alive?


I just got back a little ago from day drinking so I need to think for a sec how the watcher potential effects a lynch today vs tomorrow. Ultimately though, if I am picking a player I find most likely to be skum... it is still E!.
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Re: M127: Customer Service Hotline Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1034 on: June 14, 2020, 11:47:24 pm »

If e is scum, you're his partner
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Re: M127: Customer Service Hotline Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1035 on: June 14, 2020, 11:50:15 pm »

Maybe in a less accusatory fashion:

Basically the only two pairings I'm considering right now are e/swowl and Lalight/didds. I can do more rereading to try and sort it out more but in keeping my vote where it is for now
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Re: M127: Customer Service Hotline Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1036 on: June 15, 2020, 12:08:30 am »

Maybe in a less accusatory fashion:

Basically the only two pairings I'm considering right now are e/swowl and Lalight/didds. I can do more rereading to try and sort it out more but in keeping my vote where it is for now

I mean... none of our pairing match, so I don't know how to work with you on this one.

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Re: M127: Customer Service Hotline Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1037 on: June 15, 2020, 12:12:11 am »

Did a reread, scum is e/swowl

No Lynch here is pointless.

Scum obviously think adk is a restless spirit and I am inclined to agree.

No Lynch, ADK dies, and we are right back to where we are today except ADK can't talk in thread.

Vote: LaLight

But my reads have been crap. Will say LaLight probably had the greatest consensus just never got the votes. I should have stuck on them longer rather than flip back to mail-mi

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I think you have it backwards, a Restless Spirit would not be told whether or not they were a converted UB. I'm a UB, therefore I'm not a restless spirit

homie I think you have it backwards?

I know that faust hates mod quoting so I am not doing it but the OP clearly states "if UB converts to RS due to a solo V, the player won't be told".
Also, the game starts with a UB, but not necessarily a RS, so you def have it backwards.

i.e.... you should of gotten a role pm saying that you were the UB as they are GTD to be in the game. Then the letters were rolled. If that roll came up with 1 V-roll, you would then be turned into a RS and not be informed of it.

can someone else please read the op and tell me I am not on crack?

They believed there was a possibility that I was a secret restless spirit that got a UB PM, which is why they weren't killing me

vote: e
Ok. I actually looked at this. I don't think it is that big of a deal. The way everyone voted after it made it seem like it was the nail in the coffin, but it seems more synchronicity of misunderstanding.
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Re: M127: Customer Service Hotline Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1038 on: June 15, 2020, 12:15:29 am »

Almost as if they had been making plans in the scum thread the whole game, based on that misunderstanding
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Re: M127: Customer Service Hotline Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1039 on: June 15, 2020, 12:16:20 am »

Also, looking at no lynch vs lynch today it doesn't really matter anymore I guess. I was hoping for more out of claims, but with only one other player claiming... I mean they either kill you and then we have to consider LL vs not LL (they would only do that if they had a way to mask the kill), or they kill LL and we are where we are at now. And then after tomorrow... it doesn't matter, its the last choice either way. I mean I guess we could go lynch today, be right, and then no lynch tomorrow? but I do not see how that gets us anywhere extra.

I ain't gonna like just do it if you wanna do re reads and shit - but to be clear - I will hammer E, I am not attempting to stall that out, I was attempting to get information.
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Re: M127: Customer Service Hotline Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1040 on: June 15, 2020, 12:19:17 am »

Almost as if they had been making plans in the scum thread the whole game, based on that misunderstanding
OK. I can see what you are saying more. It could be an explanation, but I don't like finding people scummy for misunderstanding the setup. These setups aren't exactly simple and have multi-faceted rules.
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Re: M127: Customer Service Hotline Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1041 on: June 15, 2020, 12:25:18 am »

Almost as if they had been making plans in the scum thread the whole game, based on that misunderstanding
OK. I can see what you are saying more. It could be an explanation, but I don't like finding people scummy for misunderstanding the setup. These setups aren't exactly simple and have multi-faceted rules.

Misunderstanding the setup isn't scummy. Two players having the exact same misunderstanding, which gives a clear cut explanation for why an IC has survived so long, is pretty scummy in my book
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Re: M127: Customer Service Hotline Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1042 on: June 15, 2020, 12:27:58 am »

I can admit that having on thing to point to which supposedly solves the game is enticing to me, but e was reading scummy in the rest of my reread as well, so I'm feeling pretty solid on this

I basically trust that you're town at this point yuma, so if you'd like to make an alternate case I'm open to hearing it
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Re: M127: Customer Service Hotline Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1043 on: June 15, 2020, 12:28:25 am »

Ultimately though, if I am picking a player I find most likely to be skum... it is still E!.

We have been picking players most likely to be scum all game. And lynching town
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Re: M127: Customer Service Hotline Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1044 on: June 15, 2020, 12:29:22 am »

Almost as if they had been making plans in the scum thread the whole game, based on that misunderstanding
OK. I can see what you are saying more. It could be an explanation, but I don't like finding people scummy for misunderstanding the setup. These setups aren't exactly simple and have multi-faceted rules.

Misunderstanding the setup isn't scummy. Two players having the exact same misunderstanding, which gives a clear cut explanation for why an IC has survived so long, is pretty scummy in my book
Sure. I think it can be part of a vote, but the way everyone jumped onto it quickly (I guess just LaLight and WCD) made me feel it was being overstated as a reason for scumminess. We are at mylo right? And sitting at L-1.
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Re: M127: Customer Service Hotline Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1045 on: June 15, 2020, 12:31:46 am »

I can admit that having on thing to point to which supposedly solves the game is enticing to me, but e was reading scummy in the rest of my reread as well, so I'm feeling pretty solid on this

I basically trust that you're town at this point yuma, so if you'd like to make an alternate case I'm open to hearing it
That is nice. I don't have an alternate case. Based off what I remember and what I see from 2.7 today I would likely vote for him. But I am not ready to vote until I have thought my way through that. I just take a bit longer to think. I know that waiting isn't fun though.

I have been trying to do a search all and then just look at my posts, but my computer is struggling... Maybe I need to try the print screen mode...
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Re: M127: Customer Service Hotline Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1046 on: June 15, 2020, 12:33:46 am »

Ultimately though, if I am picking a player I find most likely to be skum... it is still E!.

We have been picking players most likely to be scum all game. And lynching town

Maybe we should try lynching the IC
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Re: M127: Customer Service Hotline Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1047 on: June 15, 2020, 12:34:38 am »

So is yuma town now as well e?

There is the whole governor thing, so this isn't normal mylo.

So not quite as definitive.

But yeah. Scum are LaLight and WCD
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Re: M127: Customer Service Hotline Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1048 on: June 15, 2020, 12:39:02 am »

Ok. I am not super digging the 2.7 read. I think I was taking what everyone else was saying and applying it as my reads (as if I were the consensus) but I went back and saw my thoughts about 2.7 yesterday and I don't really want to go that route.

My gut still wants to do LaLight, but I see the logic on why we should wait, but man... have we even assessed his claim reliability? If this is our last shot to get mafia I would rather go with someone I feel scummy about than a shot in the dark.
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Re: M127: Customer Service Hotline Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1049 on: June 15, 2020, 12:39:34 am »

Ultimately though, if I am picking a player I find most likely to be skum... it is still E!.

We have been picking players most likely to be scum all game. And lynching town

Maybe we should try lynching the IC
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