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Dominion => Dominion General Discussion => Topic started by: Cave-o-sapien on September 07, 2017, 11:48:22 am

Title: Brain Tricks: Confusing One Card for Another
Post by: Cave-o-sapien on September 07, 2017, 11:48:22 am
Last night I played a game where I confused Noble Brigand with Nomad Camp. I purchased what I thought was a Nomad Camp; in fact, I was sure I had purchased a Nomad Camp up until I played it and didn't see the extra buy.

Does this happen to anyone else?

It's not the first time something like this has happened to me (I have confused Orchard/Museum, Plan/Ferry), but it's maybe the most interesting case, given there are several superficial similarities between the two cards:

Name pattern (N____ ____)
Cost
On gain/on buy effect
I rarely buy either one
Hinterlands

Looking at these secondary characteristics (and ignoring the name and art) seems like a really weird way for my brain to come to the conclusion that this was Nomad Camp.

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/8/89/Nomad_Camp.jpg/150px-Nomad_Camp.jpg)(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/6/63/Noble_Brigand.jpg/150px-Noble_Brigand.jpg)
Title: Re: Brain Tricks: Confusing One Card for Another
Post by: Cuzz on September 07, 2017, 11:57:49 am
I used to mistake Settlers and Encampment occasionally:

Cost
Split pile
Cost of bottom half
Empires
Interacts with treasure


Also Artisan and Altar at least once:

Cost
Name
Used for gaining $5s


Mine/Mint is of course the canonical example as well
Title: Re: Brain Tricks: Confusing One Card for Another
Post by: Cave-o-sapien on September 07, 2017, 12:00:12 pm
I used to mistake Settlers and Encampment occasionally:

Cost
Split pile
Cost of bottom half
Empires
Interacts with treasure

The art is also very similar on those two cards, at least at thumbnail size.

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/1/14/Settlers.jpg/75px-Settlers.jpg)(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/4/4e/Encampment.jpg/75px-Encampment.jpg)
Title: Re: Brain Tricks: Confusing One Card for Another
Post by: Cuzz on September 07, 2017, 12:09:48 pm
I used to mistake Settlers and Encampment occasionally:

Cost
Split pile
Cost of bottom half
Empires
Interacts with treasure

The art is also very similar on those two cards, at least at thumbnail size.

(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/1/14/Settlers.jpg/75px-Settlers.jpg)(http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/images/thumb/4/4e/Encampment.jpg/75px-Encampment.jpg)

Oh, for sure that's a huge part of it too
Title: Re: Brain Tricks: Confusing One Card for Another
Post by: Awaclus on September 07, 2017, 12:20:08 pm
I sometimes think that Scouting Party is Travelling Fair. I'm pretty sure that's the only one I actually do when I'm playing; on the forums and Discord, I get Scavenger/Salvager, Farmland/Fairgrounds, Procession/Possession, Transmogrify/Transmute and Crossroads/Courtyard confused when the art isn't there.
Title: Re: Brain Tricks: Confusing One Card for Another
Post by: LastFootnote on September 07, 2017, 12:21:30 pm
(I have confused Orchard/Museum, Plan/Ferry)

Oh man, I buy Plan thinking that it's Ferry all the time. Sometimes those games are salvageable, but damn. I've gotta learn to stop doing that.
Title: Re: Brain Tricks: Confusing One Card for Another
Post by: DG on September 07, 2017, 12:24:03 pm
I do this sort of thing constantly. I mistake woodcutters for workshops, get the bane wrong when playing with young witch, think I've got a card in my deck when I never got round to buying it, play 9 card kingdoms, and so on.
Title: Re: Brain Tricks: Confusing One Card for Another
Post by: 4est on September 07, 2017, 12:30:30 pm
I had a game recently where I kept mixing up Expedition and Bonfire because they both cost $3 and do something with 2 cards. 
Title: Re: Brain Tricks: Confusing One Card for Another
Post by: Cave-o-sapien on September 07, 2017, 12:31:21 pm
think I've got a card in my deck when I never got round to buying it

Oh, this one! This one gets me all the time.
Title: Re: Brain Tricks: Confusing One Card for Another
Post by: benedettosoxfan on September 07, 2017, 12:51:55 pm
I spent a long time building this engine once where merchant guild was the only source of buy, and just as I was putting it all together and played by merchant guild, I realized that it was merchant ship. You would think I would have noticed that merchant guild is not orange.
Title: Re: Brain Tricks: Confusing One Card for Another
Post by: Commodore Chuckles on September 07, 2017, 03:25:31 pm
The main ones I keep getting mixed up are Patrician and Settlers. They're both tops of split piles and they're both mediocre 2s that you only buy if there's nothing else. I also often need to think a bit to remember which 5 is under which pile.
Title: Re: Brain Tricks: Confusing One Card for Another
Post by: tripwire on September 07, 2017, 04:58:48 pm
I always mix up Talisman and Quarry. They're both four cost treasures from prosperity that provide one coin when played, and have text under their line with coin symbols in them.
Title: Re: Brain Tricks: Confusing One Card for Another
Post by: Commodore Chuckles on September 07, 2017, 05:44:03 pm
I always mix up Talisman and Quarry. they're both our cost treasures from prosperity that provide one coin when played, and have text under their line with coin symbols in them.
Oh yeah, those were two I used to get mixed up a lot. I've also confused Cellar for Chapel at least once; they're both from Base, they're both 2, they both start with C, they both have darkish art and they're both ways to deal with junk.
Title: Re: Brain Tricks: Confusing One Card for Another
Post by: Jimmmmm on September 07, 2017, 11:40:56 pm
It gets harder when you can't even see the card in question. The other day I bought the 5th Patrician (my opponent had the other 4) so I could access the only Village in the Kingdom. To my surprise, the card underneath gave not 3 actions, but 1. (My opponent allowed an Undo.)
Title: Re: Brain Tricks: Confusing One Card for Another
Post by: Qvist on September 08, 2017, 12:16:05 am
I don't think I tend to confuse cards that often.
But what might be worse, I often talk about a card while recording so much that I thought I already bought it, later wondering why it isn't in my deck.
Title: Re: Brain Tricks: Confusing One Card for Another
Post by: Dylan32 on September 08, 2017, 01:39:33 am
This only happened once, and my excuse is that I was playing while extremely tired. But one game I built this deck that would have been a truly massive engine as soon as I was able to call my teacher the first time, only to realize that, seemingly out of nowhere, I had a Champion in my hand instead... I lost badly.
Title: Re: Brain Tricks: Confusing One Card for Another
Post by: Seprix on September 08, 2017, 03:08:01 am
This only happened once, and my excuse is that I was playing while extremely tired. But one game I built this deck that would have been a truly massive engine as soon as I was able to call my teacher the first time, only to realize that, seemingly out of nowhere, I had a Champion in my hand instead... I lost badly.

The pen is mightier than the sword.
Title: Re: Brain Tricks: Confusing One Card for Another
Post by: schadd on September 08, 2017, 09:45:58 am
yeah, and like, when i think i have enough villages but then sure enough i wake up next to my fucking ex-wife again next morning