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Re: Mafia 116: The Magicians Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #400 on: May 15, 2018, 09:57:16 pm »

A smart town vig would not have shot last night.

I agree with this part.


So normally I would agree with you, but as he essentially "claimed the role" - wouldn't PPS assume they were going to be the Target of the NK last night?

even if he full claimed it scum probably doesn't mind it to much.

also he hasn't really claimed it. hes just saying it at least exists in the game. If anything since hes position 13 there is a high chance hes a VT.
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Re: Mafia 116: The Magicians Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #401 on: May 15, 2018, 11:54:28 pm »

A smart town vig would not have shot last night.

I agree with this part.


So normally I would agree with you, but as he essentially "claimed the role" - wouldn't PPS assume they were going to be the Target of the NK last night?

even if he full claimed it scum probably doesn't mind it to much.

also he hasn't really claimed it. hes just saying it at least exists in the game. If anything since hes position 13 there is a high chance hes a VT.

OK I actually did not think it through - he is more likely to shoot incorrectly than correctly so why would he get the NK (check on that one, thatnks).

But the last part bothers me - If he is saying that he 100% knows it is in the game because he went that station and it was taken... why couldn't the other person who bid that station just of gone for the other PR? (cuz only one power can be taken from each slot)
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Re: Mafia 116: The Magicians Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #402 on: May 16, 2018, 12:17:22 am »

But the last part bothers me - If he is saying that he 100% knows it is in the game because he went that station and it was taken... why couldn't the other person who bid that station just of gone for the other PR? (cuz only one power can be taken from each slot)

ya that part is still possible. I'm not sure if he didn't know thats how it worked or if he didn't feel like saying both of them or whatever. But ya basically we know there is at least a Vig or a rolestopper in the game. as long as PPS is telling the truth.
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Re: Mafia 116: The Magicians Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #403 on: May 16, 2018, 12:39:37 am »

I like Vote: DatSwan
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Re: Mafia 116: The Magicians Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #404 on: May 16, 2018, 02:11:49 am »

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Re: Mafia 116: The Magicians Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #405 on: May 16, 2018, 02:21:36 am »

@Jimmmmm, you're the one whose opinion of Robz I was actually asking for.

I still lean Town on him. I think his sudden apparently strong scum read on me was at least in part to see what reactions he'd get (I hope it's not too soon for me to point that out). The only potential bite he got was Cuzz, who I still lean scum on.
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Re: Mafia 116: The Magicians Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #406 on: May 16, 2018, 03:23:49 am »

I like Vote: DatSwan

Whysies?

I got slipped a note in class saying that I should.
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Re: Mafia 116: The Magicians Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #407 on: May 16, 2018, 04:37:00 am »

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Re: Mafia 116: The Magicians Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #408 on: May 16, 2018, 04:42:23 am »

ok so I've been saying I suspect someone for a couple days now.

I think I've waited long enough to let you know who it is.

I believe the person is WW. I think he is scum.

And I also would like WW to tell me if he is a VT or not.

Vote: WW

i'll also say that I still like e for voting but i'd say an e vote is like 20% sure where as for WW i'd bump it to like 70%.

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Re: Mafia 116: The Magicians Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #409 on: May 16, 2018, 05:02:13 am »

ok so I've been saying I suspect someone for a couple days now.

I think I've waited long enough to let you know who it is.

I believe the person is WW. I think he is scum.

And I also would like WW to tell me if he is a VT or not.

Vote: WW

i'll also say that I still like e for voting but i'd say an e vote is like 20% sure where as for WW i'd bump it to like 70%.

Well I'm not going to tell you that. But I can tell you that I'm not a one-shot PGO.
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Re: Mafia 116: The Magicians Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #410 on: May 16, 2018, 05:07:38 am »

And I can now tell you guys that Hydrad is fairly likely town.
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Re: Mafia 116: The Magicians Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #411 on: May 16, 2018, 05:07:59 am »

ok so I've been saying I suspect someone for a couple days now.

I think I've waited long enough to let you know who it is.

I believe the person is WW. I think he is scum.

And I also would like WW to tell me if he is a VT or not.

Vote: WW

i'll also say that I still like e for voting but i'd say an e vote is like 20% sure where as for WW i'd bump it to like 70%.

Well I'm not going to tell you that. But I can tell you that I'm not a one-shot PGO.

will you answer me?
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Re: Mafia 116: The Magicians Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #412 on: May 16, 2018, 05:08:13 am »

And I can now tell you guys that Hydrad is fairly likely town.
agreed.
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Re: Mafia 116: The Magicians Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #413 on: May 16, 2018, 05:10:11 am »

ok so I've been saying I suspect someone for a couple days now.

I think I've waited long enough to let you know who it is.

I believe the person is WW. I think he is scum.

And I also would like WW to tell me if he is a VT or not.

Vote: WW

i'll also say that I still like e for voting but i'd say an e vote is like 20% sure where as for WW i'd bump it to like 70%.

Well I'm not going to tell you that. But I can tell you that I'm not a one-shot PGO.

will you answer me?

Nope!
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Re: Mafia 116: The Magicians Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #414 on: May 16, 2018, 08:22:51 am »

Hydrad was always town. Tell us something that wasn’t obvious already. Pretty sure WW is town, too, though even without the rankling.
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Re: Mafia 116: The Magicians Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #415 on: May 16, 2018, 08:23:20 am »

Totes fine with a Datswan lyncheroonie as well.
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Re: Mafia 116: The Magicians Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #416 on: May 16, 2018, 08:40:28 am »

Hydrad was always town. Tell us something that wasn’t obvious already. Pretty sure WW is town, too, though even without the rankling.

But now that means I'm like supertown.

I call dibs on being the day 2 IC now even if one didn't appear.
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Re: Mafia 116: The Magicians Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #417 on: May 16, 2018, 08:48:27 am »

Hydrad was always town. Tell us something that wasn’t obvious already. Pretty sure WW is town, too, though even without the rankling.

It was not obvious that it is now more obvious.
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Re: Mafia 116: The Magicians Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #418 on: May 16, 2018, 09:19:37 am »

So. Robz.

D1 he starts with the "joke" about claiming then says it is bad until D2.

He moves around to a few different people early (which is normal Robz D1), then when the options for lynch seem to narrow to myself, raptor, or Awaclus he votes Raptor and stays there until the end.

Fairly non-descript D1 for Robz, but that isn't too surprising. It isn't necessarily scummy, but there are a few things I think point to scum!Robz:
1) the whole mass claim joke seemed forced.
2) his position in and about the raptor wagon. He votes Raptor early(ish) for his lurking/inactivity but then as the lynch looks more and more inevitable he makes strong statements about raptor being town. Again, forced.

And now he comes out D2 with the confidence of a cop saying everyone should vote jimmmmm but gives no explanation. It all just feels suspicious to me
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Re: Mafia 116: The Magicians Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #419 on: May 16, 2018, 09:51:06 am »

Vote Count 2.2

Jimmmmm (2): Robz888, Cuzz
Robz888 (1): 2.71828...
2.71828... (2): pingpongsam, Jimmmmm
Datswan (1): Witherweaver
Witherweaver (1): Hydrad

Not Voting (4): DatSwan, schadd, Awaclus, SpaceAnemone

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch. Day 2 lasts until Sunday May 20 at 9 PM.

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Igu is town or trying the hardest he ever has as scum.

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Re: Mafia 116: The Magicians Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #420 on: May 16, 2018, 10:00:26 am »

Unvote

for now. my read on WW is changing i think. dang it.
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Re: Mafia 116: The Magicians Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #421 on: May 16, 2018, 10:02:45 am »

So. Robz.

D1 he starts with the "joke" about claiming then says it is bad until D2.

He moves around to a few different people early (which is normal Robz D1), then when the options for lynch seem to narrow to myself, raptor, or Awaclus he votes Raptor and stays there until the end.

Fairly non-descript D1 for Robz, but that isn't too surprising. It isn't necessarily scummy, but there are a few things I think point to scum!Robz:
1) the whole mass claim joke seemed forced.
2) his position in and about the raptor wagon. He votes Raptor early(ish) for his lurking/inactivity but then as the lynch looks more and more inevitable he makes strong statements about raptor being town. Again, forced.

And now he comes out D2 with the confidence of a cop saying everyone should vote jimmmmm but gives no explanation. It all just feels suspicious to me

Lol. Alright, I think I'm sufficiently outed. Probably I was already. And I'm not going to get the Jimmmm lynch through without revealing more, since there just isn't really a case to make on him.

I know Jimmmm is scum for PR reasons.

Should I reveal my draft number before we go to night, given that I'm highly likely to die now?
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Re: Mafia 116: The Magicians Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #422 on: May 16, 2018, 10:12:33 am »

oh well i'll jump on that wagon.

Vote: Jimmm
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Re: Mafia 116: The Magicians Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #423 on: May 16, 2018, 11:16:59 am »

Unvote

The only PR that can give that type of confidence is alignment cop (maybe tracker/watcher but that still shouldn't be 100% confidence like Robz seems to have), and I still don't get the whole joke about claiming on D1 if Robz is indeed the cop.

Unless he is the JOAT 1-shot version. Which actually makes sense with mass claiming so he knows who to reload with that shot.

Ok, I am fine with Robz maintaining ambiguity in whether he is JOAT/2-shot cop and following him to lynch jimmmmm.

Vote: Jimmmmm
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Re: Mafia 116: The Magicians Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #424 on: May 16, 2018, 11:17:49 am »

And I think not revealing your draft number is fine.
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