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[sudgy]

By map design, I mean purely aesthetic design.  Map design-for-gameplay is more related to gameplay.

[eHalcyon]

It depends not only on the genre, but on what I'm expecting out of the game.  If I'm looking for a gorgeous, cinematic storytelling experience, I'd be more willing to forgive a slightly clunky UI.  If I'm interested in a FPS, I'm probably more concerned about the gameplay and the online multiplayer features than the plot of the single player campaign.  But of course there are also "FPS" games that are more about story than PvP action, like Bioshock.

So it really depends on what the game developer is trying to deliver on, and what I am expecting based on the publicity around the game.

A similar thing can be said about board games.  I enjoy Betrayal at House on the Hill for a vastly different reason than I do Dominion or Keyflower or Eclipse.

[jsh357]

Aesthetics (particularly atmosphere, but good design and good music are also important)
Competent structure & design that suits the game
Appropriate writing, pacing, and possible twists I'm not expecting in the story
Depth of gameplay, usually some variable quality of the game that makes it worth replaying.  (Doesn't apply to adventure games, VNs, etc)

It does depend on the genre, but these are the four elements I rate a game based on in my spreadsheets.

A game that illustrates each of these well: Art: Majora's Mask, Structure: Thief 2, Writing: Ghost Trick, Depth: Demon's Souls

[sudgy]

I didn't think of how different it is depending on genre...  The case we were talking about is a puzzle-adventure game.  And, while all of these things are important, I'm wondering what the number one thing is.

[silverspawn]

I didn't think of how different it is depending on genre...  The case we were talking about is a puzzle-adventure game.  And, while all of these things are important, I'm wondering what the number one thing is.

whenever you post serious posts I can't take you seriously because of your avatar :c

[jsh357]

I didn't think of how different it is depending on genre...  The case we were talking about is a puzzle-adventure game.  And, while all of these things are important, I'm wondering what the number one thing is.

Well, I think in those types of games having an appropriate art style that draws in the target audience really helps.

[sudgy]

I didn't think of how different it is depending on genre...  The case we were talking about is a puzzle-adventure game.  And, while all of these things are important, I'm wondering what the number one thing is.

whenever you post serious posts I can't take you seriously because of your avatar :c

What's so silly about it?  It's either just some weird thing (read: everybody's avatar), or you know what it is and it's amazing.

[silverspawn]

[sudgy]

I still think that everybody's avatar is silly until you know what it is.

[Witherweaver]

Saw Queen tonight, and of course they were amazing.  But Adam Lambert. wow.  That dude is good.

[silverspawn]

I still think that everybody's avatar is silly until you know what it is.

I've watched your linked video a while ago, but I don't think it changes much, in fact I don't think knowing where it comes from matters for me in general. i'll always associate your avatar with humor and funny stuff.

[sudgy]

I still think that everybody's avatar is silly until you know what it is.

I've watched your linked video a while ago, but I don't think it changes much, in fact I don't think knowing where it comes from matters for me in general. i'll always associate your avatar with humor and funny stuff.

If you just saw the link, then I could see why you would associate my avatar with humor and funny stuff.  You would have to watch the whole show to see why it's so amazing.

[Ichimaru Gin]

RSPA

Religion, Sex, Politics, and Avatarism.

[Awaclus]

I didn't think of how different it is depending on genre...  The case we were talking about is a puzzle-adventure game.  And, while all of these things are important, I'm wondering what the number one thing is.

Intuitive controls, and after that, interesting puzzles and a low enough learning curve.

If you just saw the link, then I could see why you would associate my avatar with humor and funny stuff.  You would have to watch the whole show to see why it's so amazing.

Just the first season though.

[Polk5440]

I still think that everybody's avatar is silly until you know what it is.

My avatar is downright awesome. I don't know what you are talking about.

[sudgy]

I didn't think of how different it is depending on genre...  The case we were talking about is a puzzle-adventure game.  And, while all of these things are important, I'm wondering what the number one thing is.

Intuitive controls, and after that, interesting puzzles and a low enough learning curve.

If you just saw the link, then I could see why you would associate my avatar with humor and funny stuff.  You would have to watch the whole show to see why it's so amazing.

Just the first season though.

Noooooooooooooooooooo the second season is an infinite amount of times better than the first (while the first is still good).

(Note: I know we've had this conversation before, so I'm not going to bother replying if you reply)

[silverspawn]

well I'll watch it (if it's good). but i doubt that it will change much.

[sudgy]

well I'll watch it (if it's good). but i doubt that it will change much.

Just so you know, it takes a few episodes for anybody to start to like it.  And, watch a sub, not the dub.  They chose horrible voices for the dub.

[sudgy]

well I'll watch it (if it's good). but i doubt that it will change much.

Just so you know, it takes a few episodes for anybody to start to like it.  And, watch a sub, not the dub.  They chose horrible voices for the dub.

And, the second season is what makes them really amazing.

[scott_pilgrim]

well I'll watch it (if it's good). but i doubt that it will change much.

Just so you know, it takes a few episodes for anybody to start to like it.  And, watch a sub, not the dub.  They chose horrible voices for the dub.

Really?  I thought the dub was actually pretty good for the most part.  There are a few characters with annoying voices (Tomoyo, but I don't like her as a character anyway, and Sunohara, but his super-annoying voice fits his character really well I think, probably a couple others I'm forgetting).  But the most important characters' voices are great I think.

I agree it takes a few episodes to get into, and also that the After Story is 330214284 times better than the first series.

[silverspawn]

well I'll watch it (if it's good). but i doubt that it will change much.

Just so you know, it takes a few episodes for anybody to start to like it.  And, watch a sub, not the dub.  They chose horrible voices for the dub.

Really?  I thought the dub was actually pretty good for the most part.  There are a few characters with annoying voices (Tomoyo, but I don't like her as a character anyway, and Sunohara, but his super-annoying voice fits his character really well I think, probably a couple others I'm forgetting).  But the most important characters' voices are great I think.

I agree it takes a few episodes to get into, and also that the After Story is 330214284 times better than the first series.

It doesn't really matter, I watch everything in its original language if possible.

[Titandrake]

I didn't like how season 1 of Clannad really feels like they took a bunch of paths from the VN and tried to mush it together into one series. I haven't played the VN, but that's what it feels like. Some of the arcs were nice - some felt like they were just there.

Season 2 is definitely better though.

[sudgy]

well I'll watch it (if it's good). but i doubt that it will change much.

Just so you know, it takes a few episodes for anybody to start to like it.  And, watch a sub, not the dub.  They chose horrible voices for the dub.

Really?  I thought the dub was actually pretty good for the most part.  There are a few characters with annoying voices (Tomoyo, but I don't like her as a character anyway, and Sunohara, but his super-annoying voice fits his character really well I think, probably a couple others I'm forgetting).  But the most important characters' voices are great I think.

I feel like some of the voices were mediocre, and some of them were horrible.  I actually don't remember Tomoyo's (I might just not have ever heard it, my brother was just showing me a few of the character's voices).  My biggest gripe is actually Sunohara, his voice in the original sounds like "I'm trying to sound really cool but failing horribly and am actually really lame," while his voice in the dub sounds more like "I'm really lame."

[eHalcyon]

I didn't think of how different it is depending on genre...  The case we were talking about is a puzzle-adventure game.  And, while all of these things are important, I'm wondering what the number one thing is.

whenever you post serious posts I can't take you seriously because of your avatar :c

"I can't take you seriously because of your avatar."
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(I have no problem taking either of you seriously.  I'm just commenting on the irony!)

[enfynet]

Because of a conversation with my brother, I'm curious, to you who play video games, what do you look for in a video game?  My brother makes a game for fun and says that his weakest parts, storytelling and map design, are what everybody looks for in a game.  I would think good gameplay is what you should look for in a game.  So, what do you look for in a game?

It's hard to say. If you can figure out what (Group A) games do well, and (Group B) do poorly, then you may decipher what I look for in a video game.

Group A - Perfect Dark, Fallout 3, Portal, Skyrim, Dead Space, (GTA V)

Group B - Call of Duty, Halo, Dark Souls, Crackdown, GTA 3, Smash Bros

I haven't figured out a pattern yet.

I also didn't include PC games which is basically RCT & AoE vs everything else.

I do know that I immensely dislike online multiplayer anything. I will do split screen or LAN parties, but never like playing online. (I actually dislike Dominion online quite a bit as well.)