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Miscellaneous => General Discussion => Topic started by: AndrewisFTTW on April 29, 2014, 01:35:02 pm
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I can't get it hooked up to my TV and it's really pissing me off. I'm working with a Toshiba TV and the setup is pretty straightforward but I'm still not getting anything which makes me think the N64 is effed up or something. Any ideas?
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Switch your TV to the external input channel.
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Project64
My guess would be that you should try using different cables if they are available. My N64 only works with old analog cables (white/yellow/red) or an RF connection, not component. N64s fail more often than even some older Nintendo systems, though. It IS possible you have a lemon, or your TV just isn't gonna work with it.
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I'm using the analog cables and I've tried all the external input channels and it always says "no video signal".
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Have you tried turning it on?
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Have you tried turning it on?
You should consider a career in troubleshooting.
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Man, that takes me back.
Mario in 3D? Holy crap!
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Man, that takes me back.
Mario in 3D? Holy crap!
We already had him in 3d with Legend of the Seven Stars.
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Have you tried turning it on?
Technically he needs to turn it off THEN on again
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Also, have you tried it in a different Tv?
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Also, have you tried it in a different Tv?
Alas, we only have one TV.
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Have you considered taking a time machine eighteen years into the past, when TVs were probably compatible with that hardware?
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Have you considered taking a time machine eighteen years into the past, when TVs were probably compatible with that hardware?
Alas, we only have one time machine, and it belongs to the dog.
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Man, that takes me back.
Mario in 3D? Holy crap!
We already had him in 3d with Legend of the Seven Stars.
Never heard of that. I never owned a SNES. I only hung out with some people who had one.
Technically, I didn't own a N64 either. My roommate bought one, which was when a first-person (ish) Mario really astounded me.
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My gaming history is that my brother bought every console when they came out starting with NES and ending with Wii, or somewhere around there. He even had all the Segas (Genesis, Gamegear, Saturn, Dreamcast)! So I played the hell out of NES and SNES but for some reason when N64 came out, I just kinda skipped it. Thus here I am today trying to make up for what I missed out on in middle school or whenever that was, and it's not working! What have I done to deserve this? Have I angered the gaming gods somehow?
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So this is a stupid suggestion as well, but hey, since someone mentioned turning it on....
1) Red/Yellow/White. Are they plugged in correctly?
2) Is your tv on? Is the N64 on?
3) Try turning the N64 on first THEN cycling through the input options on your TV
4) Try a different game -- it may be the cartridge
That's all I've got to add. Sorry.
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Never heard of that.
Funny, it's the only Mario game that I ever played.
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I think these wires are shot. I'll find another TV to test this on somewhere and we'll see what's up.
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I think these wires are shot. I'll find another TV to test this on somewhere and we'll see what's up.
Another point for Ozle!!
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Try "cleaning" the cartridge. Usually blowing inside it does the job, from personal experience.
I feel like I am giving tips to get rid of hiccup. :-\ And that this is going to RSP.
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Well the problem isn't the game because the TV isn't even recognizing the N64, it's just saying "no video signal". A friend is bringing over his N64 today so hopefully we'll get to the bottom of this.
EDIT: Nevermind. I just ordered new cables.
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Did anybody else hear Ozle say something? No? Huh, weird.
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Why do you need an actual N64? Emulators are free and on your computer. Also, and this is just a personal feeling, most of the games are fun only because you can be nostalgic about them. Game design has come a long way since some of those games. Sure Ocarina of Time is fun and was amazing when it came out, but now it's simplistic with "puzzles" that just involves trial and error. That's not really a puzzle, its just me trying every item with every object until something works. Mario 64 is fun, but mostly because I remember how much fun it was when I was a kid. Nostalgia.
Maybe I'm crazy, and if I am then you'll have a blast with all these games.
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An actual N64 trumps an emulator, simply because you have the original controller the game was made for. I always found it difficult to play Mario 64 on my emulator, even with my controller. I was simply always missing some buttons or they weren't placed logically. Moreover, my hardware was never good enough to play the games with a high FPS.
But...I don't think the N64 has many classics. Sure, Mario 64 and Mario Kart 64 are fun, but that's about all of the essential games I can name for that platform.
The SNES had more games, but maybe that's because I had a SNES and remember those games better, I played the hell out of:
- Super Mario World
- Super Mario Kart
- Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
- International Superstar Soccer Deluxe (I still remember the cheat codes!!!)
- Killer Instinct
- Mortal Kombat
- Chrono Trigger
- Lufia I & II
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I really only bought this to play Super Mario 64 and Ocarina of Time, although I wouldn't mind having Starfox 64, Donkey Kong 64, F-Zero X, Goldeneye and/or Perfect Dark, Mario Kart 64, SSB, Wave Race (that was N64, right?), and maybe another game or two. But I'm really only interested in Mario and Zelda.
Some of it might be nostalgia, yes, but I remember Super Mario 64 having an awesome story and feel to it, besides being visually impressive, having interesting mechanics, and the fact that I only played a little bit of it really bothers me. Ocarina of Time is the same thing but from what I remember it has incredibly infectious music, a number of side quests, and it's Zelda dude! For reference, I love old school RPGs. Chrono Trigger is still my favorite game and FF7 and A Link to the Past aren't far behind. So who knows, maybe I'll buy a Gamecube next!
As far as emulators go, I'm not interested. Playing with the original controller and cartridges have a soothing effect. But I don't miss the endless blowing into NES cartridges. Man that sucked.
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Why do you need an actual N64? Emulators are free and on your computer. Also, and this is just a personal feeling, most of the games are fun only because you can be nostalgic about them. Game design has come a long way since some of those games. Sure Ocarina of Time is fun and was amazing when it came out, but now it's simplistic with "puzzles" that just involves trial and error. That's not really a puzzle, its just me trying every item with every object until something works. Mario 64 is fun, but mostly because I remember how much fun it was when I was a kid. Nostalgia.
Maybe I'm crazy, and if I am then you'll have a blast with all these games.
Nostalgia is a very important part of the experience. When I'm playing these games, I don't really care that much for how brilliant the gameplay and control is. The level stuff was at is enough. I'd rather play Wrestlemania 2000 than whatever version is out now, since that's when I watched wrestling anyway. And it's not as if I'm playing Majora's Mask instead of Skyward Sword (or whatever). I wouldn't be playing Skyward Sword in that time anyway. It's fun to go back and play those games sometimes. (By the way, this thread made me want to go back and play some Mario RPG...)
For single-player games I agree emulator is better, but you want the console in front of your TV for the multi-player experience. A couple months ago I was at a party with a bunch of late 20's and 30-somethings drinking beer and wine and playing NES. It's fun. And that Disneyland game is hard...
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The SNES had more games, but maybe that's because I had a SNES and remember those games better, I played the hell out of:
- Super Mario World
- Super Mario Kart
- Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
- International Superstar Soccer Deluxe (I still remember the cheat codes!!!)
- Killer Instinct
- Mortal Kombat
- Chrono Trigger
- Lufia I & II
Yeah SNES is my top console but I played the hell out of it and don't really have a desire to invest in all of that again. My top SNES games were:
-Super Mario World
-Donkey Kong Country
-Chrono Trigger
-A Link to the Past
-Secret of Evermore
-NBA Jam
-Mortal Kombat
-Killer Instinct
-FF4
-F-Zero
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I'm not ashamed to say that Pokemon Snap is cool.
Stepping sideways and back in time, the Mega Drive (Genesis?) version of Desert Strike is superb.
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As much as I am a proponent of emulation, I have to agree that the N64 is a bit of a special case that I usually just use the original system for. The N64 controller, while terribly designed, is also very unique and the games were designed around its cumbersome interface. It's pretty difficult to play most N64 games on modern controllers for me.
I am also with Davio in thinking it has a pretty bad game lineup (though Majora's Mask is a masterpiece--the only game on the system I hold in high esteem that has stood up to the test of time for me), but I'm not about to judge someone's nostalgic feelings. I was in high school during the middle of the N64 era, and remember being distinctly unimpressed with the quality of games on the system and the Ps1 for the most part. Unlike another poster mentioned, when I saw Super Mario 64 I was all "wow, these 3d games look like garbage. Can we just stick with the tried and true until they improve the look of these?" Fortunately for everyone, this happened. The SNES was the box I spent most of my time on as a kid, and I do still play a lot of the games for it, though always emulated. Just can't beat readily accessible savestates and fastforwarding...
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I am also with Davio in thinking it has a pretty bad game lineup (though Majora's Mask is a masterpiece--the only game on the system I hold in high esteem that has stood up to the test of time for me), but I'm not about to judge someone's nostalgic feelings. I was in high school during the middle of the N64 era, and remember being distinctly unimpressed with the quality of games on the system and the Ps1 for the most part. Unlike another poster mentioned, when I saw Super Mario 64 I was all "wow, these 3d games look like garbage. Can we just stick with the tried and true until they improve the look of these?" Fortunately for everyone, this happened. The SNES was the box I spent most of my time on as a kid, and I do still play a lot of the games for it, though always emulated. Just can't beat readily accessible savestates and fastforwarding...
I felt exactly the same way when it came out. I thought the graphics were awful, the controller was awful, and there were barely any games on it worth playing. So I skipped it and instead spent all my time playing Dreamcast. But now here I am however many years later and all I want to do is get through Ocarina of Time and Super Mario 64. Though if you recommend Majora's Mask I'll look into that too.
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Games I enjoy the most are the ones where I need to make interesting decisions. That's why Dominion is fun. Mario 64 has a lot of that because it's more action based. You need to avoid, jump, dodge and explore. Those are all decisions you need to make, usually under pressure or time constraints. I've never found Zelda games to promote inventive thinking. Either you're told exactly where to go, or you're fighting a monster that plays exactly the same as the last monster you fought. I know most people disagree, and I never really played any of them after majoras mask, but unless you really enjoyed them 15 years ago or whatever, then they are hard to enjoy now.
Nostalgia is a very important part of the experience. When I'm playing these games, I don't really care that much for how brilliant the gameplay and control is. The level stuff was at is enough. I'd rather play Wrestlemania 2000 than whatever version is out now, since that's when I watched wrestling anyway.
And I don't think you need to play the current wrestlemania games :P That's like needing to buy the NHL game that comes out every year.
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Did anybody else hear Ozle say something? No? Huh, weird.
Go on, it's ok, you can say it....
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Banjo-Kazooie 4 lyfe
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Banjo-Kazooie 4 lyfe
Banjo-Tooie was one of my favorites.
Regarding poor graphics, there is an argument to be made for playing the updates (if they exist) if you've never played the original versions. Ocarina and Mario 64 are on 3ds, for instance.
I ended playing Majora's mask on Wii using the Pro controller (it was a downloadable game -- probably the best Nintendo Club freebie ever) and enjoyed it.
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I'm surprised people haven't mentioned the illegality of emulators. You probably won't get in trouble, but it's still against the law. I don't use emulators just because of that.
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I'm surprised people haven't mentioned the illegality of emulators. You probably won't get in trouble, but it's still against the law. I don't use emulators just because of that.
I think you can legally use emulators if you have the original copies of the games you're playing.
It's not illegal to own a VCR either, the player is not at fault here.
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Might be because I am younger than all you old-timers, but personally I think that the GameCube was the apex of Nintendo's gaming consoles.
Not counting handhelds, of course, since the GBA was, and still is, the best thing EVAH.
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I think that's the first time I've ever been called "old timer". Oh god... am I that old? Am I? Ahhh!!!!
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Seriously though, what does everyone think of GameCube and Wii? I don't know anything about either.
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Seriously though, what does everyone think of GameCube and Wii? I don't know anything about either.
The Gamecube suffers from a limited library much like the N64, but it was a neat, fairly powerful system at the time and I love its design (especially the handle you can carry it with). The controller is also awesome. My favorite game on it is Metroid Prime, but SSB:Melee obviously has the biggest following. The games hold up much better than games on the N64, and the system runs surprisingly fast compared to the PS2 most of the time.
I am not a fan of the Wii, though it has some great games (Little King's Story, Xenoblade, and Fire Emblem 10 especially). The controller is a huge step back from the design of the GC's, which is fair considering they wanted to push motion controls, but it turned out to be a lame gimmick in the end. By the time they had managed to make interesting motion controls (which still hardly work like they were advertised) the system was pretty much dead. The virtual console was a great idea done better by Sony, Microsoft, and Valve. Sad, really. Older Wiis emulate GC games, but I hear the newer ones don't, so if you were thinking of getting one, that's something to keep in mind.
I am of the opinion Nintendo's consoles have been lacking since the PS2 came out and they have never really caught up. Their handheld systems are excellent (the 3DS is probably my favorite system to play games on besides PC, though Vita is close) and I sort of wish they would stop trying to make consoles and invest in making more powerful hardware for the next handheld instead.
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I'm surprised people haven't mentioned the illegality of emulators. You probably won't get in trouble, but it's still against the law.
It's not just that you probably won't get in trouble: nobody cares even if you do it. It's not like the creators would have made any money from you anyway.
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Personally I liked the Wii better than the GameCube. GameCube just never did much for me. I preferred Galaxy over Sunshine, Twilight over Wind Waker, Brawl over Melee. I know these aren't necessarily popular opinions. The controller is definitely superior for the GameCube (the only choice for Smash Bros. IMO) but I didn't hate the motion controls either...Wii Sports was fun, and games like Metroid Prime 3 utilized them pretty effectively. And it flips sideways to make a perfect boxy NES controller, which is nice considering that 90% of my Nintendo is nostalgia nowadays anyway.
Neither one holds a candle to the SNES though. I don't have a Wii U so I can't comment on this most recent generation.
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The controller is also awesome. My favorite game on it is Metroid Prime
The GameCube controller is my favorite controller ever. The Xbox one controller may unseat that, though. Pikmin and Pikmin 2 were my favs from the GameCube. And Smash.
The controller is a huge step back from the design of the GC's, which is fair considering they wanted to push motion controls, but it turned out to be a lame gimmick in the end. By the time they had managed to make interesting motion controls (which still hardly work like they were advertised) the system was pretty much dead.
I blame developers. Metroid Prime 3 is control perfection. Much better than mouse and keypad or double joystick controls for similar games.
On the Wii you can't miss Galaxy 1 and 2, Skyward Sword, Donkey Kong Country Returns, and the Metroid Prime Trilogy (just skip the gamecube versions).
Twilight Princess plays better on GameCube, I think.
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The Wii is a family console and you should treat is as such.
We had a lot of fun with our family bowling, playing tennis and those kinds of things.
Heck, we even made a whole night out of it. Those were good times.
The Wii is not a gamer's console though, it's too gimmicky for that. It has some great games with Super Mario Galaxy which is just superb 3D platforming at its best. It doesn't have many "can't miss" games and most high end games just play and look better on Xbox or PS. Skyward Sword is also a great title and gives you about the most use you can get out of the controller, still they ended up making it pretty annoying at times when trying to time a Skyward Strike.
The reason I like SNES the best is that the games and the console were a perfect fit. It took about 15 years for any football/soccer game to play as smoothly as ISS did on SNES and the graphics and music on Donkey Kong Country were worthy of poems and songs. Optimized 2D gaming offered flawless gameplay back then. It's a bit sad that the industry dove into 3D a bit too soon, meaning we had to endure all of those awful vexel games. Anyone remember what the first Tomb Raider looked like on PS1? Awful, you couldn't tell her nose from her chin. Of course it was a new kind of game and we loved and hated the pixel perfect running jumps we had to make.
The transformation from 2D to 3D was a rocky one and it took quite some time, but the last years we're finally getting the high quality 3D games we deserve.
Here's a nostalgia picture for ya:
(http://mygaming.co.za/news/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Tomb-Raider-1.jpg)
And here's the latest Lara:
(http://www.teknoconsolas.es/files/images/noticias/tobradier.jpg)
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I'm surprised people haven't mentioned the illegality of emulators. You probably won't get in trouble, but it's still against the law. I don't use emulators just because of that.
I think you can legally use emulators if you have the original copies of the games you're playing.
It's not illegal to own a VCR either, the player is not at fault here.
I've looked into it, you can only legally use it if you made the rom yourself. Also, it's the roms that are illegal, not the emulators.
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Secret of Mana, people. If a game ever needed a sequel, that is it.
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Secret of Mana, people. If a game ever needed a sequel, that is it.
It has a lot of sequels. The series has gone entirely to crap (though even SoM suffers from nostalgia goggles more than you'd probably care to admit on replays). In particular, I recommend Seiken Densetsu III. It's a wonderful game, much better than SoM, and has a very good fan translation. We didn't get it outside of Japan because it has a bunch of bugs and it came out late in the Super Famicom's lifespan.
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Secret of Mana, people. If a game ever needed a sequel, that is it.
It has a lot of sequels. The series has gone entirely to crap (though even SoM suffers from nostalgia goggles more than you'd probably care to admit on replays). In particular, I recommend Seiken Densetsu III. It's a wonderful game, much better than SoM, and has a very good fan translation. We didn't get it outside of Japan because it has a bunch of bugs and it came out late in the Super Famicom's lifespan.
I'll fully admit to nostaglia goggles. I bought it on iPad just because. It definitely is better with a controller.
I used to play a J-League game on Super Famicom that is still, to me, the best soccer game ever.
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I almost forgot Zombies Ate My Neighbors and Battletoads. Maybe I should get an SNES....
EDIT: Oh Battletoads was NES. Damn that game rocked!
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I actually dislike the N64. I've only really enjoyed Super Smash Bros on that console. I didn't play the Zelda games as a kid, I didn't watch Goldeneye until later, so that game wasn't as cool either. And the controller is an abomination.
I didn't own a NES or a SNES as a kid, but there's still a ton of games for the consoles that I enjoy playing nowdays. I actually got a NES so that I would be able to play Castlevania.
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I almost forgot Zombies Ate My Neighbors
Zombies ate your neighbors? How could you forget that?!
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As said before, nostalgia can be pretty important here. Like, Pokemon Snap is a lot easier when you're over 18 years old than when you're 8, but you'll want to go through it of you played it when you were younger. Nostalgia is what got me playing Paper Mario on it, while fortunately still has so much content and secrets to be awesome.
However, What's even more important is the multiplayer experience, especially if you play with N64 nostalgic people. I wouldn't even think of playing Mario Kart 64 solo. Here, emulators are lacking.
That said, the N64 has the first Super Smash Bros., an excellent game (but you most probably have Melee or Brawl). And GoldenEye has a timeless single player campaign if 100% completion is your goal in it. Beating Majora's mask is pretty rewarding too. Oh yeah, ans questing to save the 120 stars in Super Mario 64 is a source of entertainment that surely stands the test of time. Even the water level is only semi-annoying.
Maybe it's just that I never got a Nintendo console past the N64.
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Oh, if only you had a TV that showed a slight static burst even when the game didn't start once you were on the right output setting.
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I almost forgot Zombies Ate My Neighbors
Zombies ate your neighbors? How could you forget that?!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jY5JNdaDxPM
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Bought new RCA cables. Didn't work. Returning N64. Hating everything.
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Secret of Mana, people. If a game ever needed a sequel, that is it.
It has a lot of sequels. The series has gone entirely to crap (though even SoM suffers from nostalgia goggles more than you'd probably care to admit on replays). In particular, I recommend Seiken Densetsu III. It's a wonderful game, much better than SoM, and has a very good fan translation. We didn't get it outside of Japan because it has a bunch of bugs and it came out late in the Super Famicom's lifespan.
Oh yeah! I was playing the SoM sequal (Seiken Densetsu III) on an emulator, but I don't think I finished for some reason. My hard drive might have crashed. The class selection/promotion thing was neat.
On the subject of SNES games, the SquareSoft ones are obviously awesome: Final Fantasy 2 (IV), Final Fantasy 3 (VI), and Chrono Trigger. But, those are all available for tablets now.
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On the subject of nostalgia, I think my all-time nostalgic games (outside of FF2 (IV) maybe) are Shining Force and Shining Force II for Genesis. I think they were the first Tactical RPG's I ever played, and among my my all-time favorites.
What sucks is the series went the SEGA line, so everything was on SEGA CD or SEGA portable systems, which I never had. They finally brought games in the series back with PS2, but they're action-adventure games instead of tactical RPGs.
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On the subject of nostalgia, I think my all-time nostalgic games (outside of FF2 (IV) maybe) are Shining Force and Shining Force II for Genesis. I think they were the first Tactical RPG's I ever played, and among my my all-time favorites.
What sucks is the series went the SEGA line, so everything was on SEGA CD or SEGA portable systems, which I never had. They finally brought games in the series back with PS2, but they're action-adventure games instead of tactical RPGs.
Did you ever get that FFIV/Chrono Trigger set on PS1 with those added cutscenes? It was pretty cool but I never got through it all. Same with Chrono Cross.
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Bought new RCA cables. Didn't work. Returning N64. Hating everything.
Boo!
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Homebody on ebay suggested that I'm trying to scam him by asking for a full refund for my broken N64. Since when is returning an item that doesn't work a scam?
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On the subject of nostalgia, I think my all-time nostalgic games (outside of FF2 (IV) maybe) are Shining Force and Shining Force II for Genesis. I think they were the first Tactical RPG's I ever played, and among my my all-time favorites.
What sucks is the series went the SEGA line, so everything was on SEGA CD or SEGA portable systems, which I never had. They finally brought games in the series back with PS2, but they're action-adventure games instead of tactical RPGs.
Did you ever get that FFIV/Chrono Trigger set on PS1 with those added cutscenes? It was pretty cool but I never got through it all. Same with Chrono Cross.
Yep! And they released the unreleased Japan versions, FFII and FFV. Those were cool.
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On the subject of nostalgia, I think my all-time nostalgic games (outside of FF2 (IV) maybe) are Shining Force and Shining Force II for Genesis. I think they were the first Tactical RPG's I ever played, and among my my all-time favorites.
What sucks is the series went the SEGA line, so everything was on SEGA CD or SEGA portable systems, which I never had. They finally brought games in the series back with PS2, but they're action-adventure games instead of tactical RPGs.
Did you ever get that FFIV/Chrono Trigger set on PS1 with those added cutscenes? It was pretty cool but I never got through it all. Same with Chrono Cross.
I got the FFIV/Chrono combo pack. I even got through them both, despite the annoying battle load times on Chrono trigger. FF4 has a decent story, but it's missing a lot the content and flair that makes FF6 and subsequent games so entertaining. I never tried FF5, but I can always get it on the PlayStation Network if I so desire.
Edit: The long load times of Chrono Trigger are only present on the PS version. The SNES version must be so much better without them.
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Man, it always amazes me how behind people are on this stuff outside the core community.
The playstation ports of the Square-Enix RPGs are trash, and far better versions of the games were released on GBA, DS and PSP over the years. For instance, most fans consider FF5 Advance the definitive English release for various reasons, while the PS1 version has a laughable translation and really bad load times. FF4 is more complicated since the remakes and ports are so numerous, but it's a sure thing that between the GBA release, PSP update, and DS remake you will find a better port of the game than the FF Chronicles one. Sadly, since Japan hates FF6, the only decent update to it has been the GBA port, which has a butchered soundtrack (fixable with mods, to be fair). As for Chrono Trigger, the DS version of it has all the new cutscenes, no load times, an improved translation, and bonus dungeons. It's also easy to find, and the 3DS is a current system so it's easy to play too.
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Homebody on ebay suggested that I'm trying to scam him by asking for a full refund for my broken N64. Since when is returning an item that doesn't work a scam?
I believe ebays policy is that the buyer is always right. So complain and he may be forced to refund or something.
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Man, it always amazes me how behind people are on this stuff outside the core community.
The playstation ports of the Square-Enix RPGs are trash, and far better versions of the games were released on GBA, DS and PSP over the years. For instance, most fans consider FF5 Advance the definitive English release for various reasons, while the PS1 version has a laughable translation and really bad load times. FF4 is more complicated since the remakes and ports are so numerous, but it's a sure thing that between the GBA release, PSP update, and DS remake you will find a better port of the game than the FF Chronicles one. Sadly, since Japan hates FF6, the only decent update to it has been the GBA port, which has a butchered soundtrack (fixable with mods, to be fair). As for Chrono Trigger, the DS version of it has all the new cutscenes, no load times, an improved translation, and bonus dungeons. It's also easy to find, and the 3DS is a current system so it's easy to play too.
I'm not so concerned about poor translations and other problems.. PS release of FFII and FFV were my only ways to play the game (back when they were originally released), so I was really happy to have them. I think I'll pick the mobile (Android) ports up eventually, but they're kind of expensive.
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On the subject of nostalgia, I think my all-time nostalgic games (outside of FF2 (IV) maybe) are Shining Force and Shining Force II for Genesis. I think they were the first Tactical RPG's I ever played, and among my my all-time favorites.
What sucks is the series went the SEGA line, so everything was on SEGA CD or SEGA portable systems, which I never had. They finally brought games in the series back with PS2, but they're action-adventure games instead of tactical RPGs.
Did you ever get that FFIV/Chrono Trigger set on PS1 with those added cutscenes? It was pretty cool but I never got through it all. Same with Chrono Cross.
I got the FFIV/Chrono combo pack. I even got through them both, despite the annoying battle load times on Chrono trigger. FF4 has a decent story, but it's missing a lot the content and flair that makes FF6 and subsequent games so entertaining. I never tried FF5, but I can always get it on the PlayStation Network if I so desire.
Edit: The long load times of Chrono Trigger are only present on the PS version. The SNES version must be so much better without them.
FF4 missing content and flair? Blasphemy! Palom and Porom! Cid! Rydia! Plus you got that one dude Edward so you could be so happy that he finally dies!
Well, FF6 has a lot of content. My main problem (perhaps the only real flaw) with FF6 is that it introduce the "play a shit ton of mini games instead of playing the actual game in order to get items that are otherwise unattainable". To me that sent a bad thread through the Final Fantasy games which really brought itself to head in FFX, almost entirely dismantling my enjoyment of the game at times.
But anyway, FF4 is my nostalgic game of the FF series. And, like most of the American players, it was my first Final Fantasy game after the original, so it was a huge jump up in terms of character development and personality for me.
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The dialogue in the first game is awesome!
"I, Garland, will knock you all down!!"
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Man, it always amazes me how behind people are on this stuff outside the core community.
The playstation ports of the Square-Enix RPGs are trash, and far better versions of the games were released on GBA, DS and PSP over the years. For instance, most fans consider FF5 Advance the definitive English release for various reasons, while the PS1 version has a laughable translation and really bad load times. FF4 is more complicated since the remakes and ports are so numerous, but it's a sure thing that between the GBA release, PSP update, and DS remake you will find a better port of the game than the FF Chronicles one. Sadly, since Japan hates FF6, the only decent update to it has been the GBA port, which has a butchered soundtrack (fixable with mods, to be fair). As for Chrono Trigger, the DS version of it has all the new cutscenes, no load times, an improved translation, and bonus dungeons. It's also easy to find, and the 3DS is a current system so it's easy to play too.
I'm not so concerned about poor translations and other problems.. PS release of FFII and FFV were my only ways to play the game (back when they were originally released), so I was really happy to have them. I think I'll pick the mobile (Android) ports up eventually, but they're kind of expensive.
Don't get me wrong, I had those when they came out too. (and the PS1 ports of FF1/2 are still arguably the best anyway) I'm more saying, there's not much point in playing bad ports nowadays when good ones are available, especially in cases like FF5, whose perception in the west was hurt badly by the Playstation version when it came out.
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Man, it always amazes me how behind people are on this stuff outside the core community.
The playstation ports of the Square-Enix RPGs are trash, and far better versions of the games were released on GBA, DS and PSP over the years. For instance, most fans consider FF5 Advance the definitive English release for various reasons, while the PS1 version has a laughable translation and really bad load times. FF4 is more complicated since the remakes and ports are so numerous, but it's a sure thing that between the GBA release, PSP update, and DS remake you will find a better port of the game than the FF Chronicles one. Sadly, since Japan hates FF6, the only decent update to it has been the GBA port, which has a butchered soundtrack (fixable with mods, to be fair). As for Chrono Trigger, the DS version of it has all the new cutscenes, no load times, an improved translation, and bonus dungeons. It's also easy to find, and the 3DS is a current system so it's easy to play too.
I'm not so concerned about poor translations and other problems.. PS release of FFII and FFV were my only ways to play the game (back when they were originally released), so I was really happy to have them. I think I'll pick the mobile (Android) ports up eventually, but they're kind of expensive.
Don't get me wrong, I had those when they came out too. (and the PS1 ports of FF1/2 are still arguably the best anyway) I'm more saying, there's not much point in playing bad ports nowadays when good ones are available, especially in cases like FF5, whose perception in the west was hurt badly by the Playstation version when it came out.
Ah, well, good point. But by the time those other ports had come out, I had already played the games. I played FFIII on an emulator before the DS port ever came out, so I never played through the port of that.
Do you know how the Android versions are? I think they were based off the PSP/DS versions mostly.
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The dialogue in the first game is awesome!
"I, Garland, will knock you all down!!"
I thought for years that we went to the Castle of Friends to fight Garland. And I didn't know why we were fighting Christmas ornaments. I was pretty young when I played the first Final Fantasy.
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Man, it always amazes me how behind people are on this stuff outside the core community.
The playstation ports of the Square-Enix RPGs are trash, and far better versions of the games were released on GBA, DS and PSP over the years. For instance, most fans consider FF5 Advance the definitive English release for various reasons, while the PS1 version has a laughable translation and really bad load times. FF4 is more complicated since the remakes and ports are so numerous, but it's a sure thing that between the GBA release, PSP update, and DS remake you will find a better port of the game than the FF Chronicles one. Sadly, since Japan hates FF6, the only decent update to it has been the GBA port, which has a butchered soundtrack (fixable with mods, to be fair). As for Chrono Trigger, the DS version of it has all the new cutscenes, no load times, an improved translation, and bonus dungeons. It's also easy to find, and the 3DS is a current system so it's easy to play too.
I'm not so concerned about poor translations and other problems.. PS release of FFII and FFV were my only ways to play the game (back when they were originally released), so I was really happy to have them. I think I'll pick the mobile (Android) ports up eventually, but they're kind of expensive.
Don't get me wrong, I had those when they came out too. (and the PS1 ports of FF1/2 are still arguably the best anyway) I'm more saying, there's not much point in playing bad ports nowadays when good ones are available, especially in cases like FF5, whose perception in the west was hurt badly by the Playstation version when it came out.
Ah, well, good point. But by the time those other ports had come out, I had already played the games. I played FFIII on an emulator before the DS port ever came out, so I never played through the port of that.
Do you know how the Android versions are? I think they were based off the PSP/DS versions mostly.
the Android ports are pretty bad in my opinion. I know FF6's is really buggy (unfinishable on release) and the graphics look mind-blowingly horrible at times. On the bright side, they did keep the original soundtracks in, which is cool. The controls are really poor. The only really successful Android port was Final Fantasy Dimensions, which is all right, but pretty much inferior to FF5 and Bravely Default.
Quick graphics comparison in FF5:
Original: http://www.lordyuanshu.com/images/FF5/World1/charactersmeet.jpg?672cfe
Android: http://rpgmaker.net/media/content/users/947/locker/FF5shitedition.PNG
The graphics in the original were nothing special, but at least they didn't look blown up and washed out. FF6 fared far worse since it was a beautiful game originally (Note: it gets worse than this, these screens were just easy to find):
http://www.siliconera.com/2013/12/03/final-fantasy-vi-coming-ios-android-winter-heres-looks-vs-snes-game/
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On the subject of nostalgia, I think my all-time nostalgic games (outside of FF2 (IV) maybe) are Shining Force and Shining Force II for Genesis. I think they were the first Tactical RPG's I ever played, and among my my all-time favorites.
What sucks is the series went the SEGA line, so everything was on SEGA CD or SEGA portable systems, which I never had. They finally brought games in the series back with PS2, but they're action-adventure games instead of tactical RPGs.
Aaah, nostalgia, I still remember when I used to be nostalgic.
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Man, it always amazes me how behind people are on this stuff outside the core community.
The playstation ports of the Square-Enix RPGs are trash, and far better versions of the games were released on GBA, DS and PSP over the years. For instance, most fans consider FF5 Advance the definitive English release for various reasons, while the PS1 version has a laughable translation and really bad load times. FF4 is more complicated since the remakes and ports are so numerous, but it's a sure thing that between the GBA release, PSP update, and DS remake you will find a better port of the game than the FF Chronicles one. Sadly, since Japan hates FF6, the only decent update to it has been the GBA port, which has a butchered soundtrack (fixable with mods, to be fair). As for Chrono Trigger, the DS version of it has all the new cutscenes, no load times, an improved translation, and bonus dungeons. It's also easy to find, and the 3DS is a current system so it's easy to play too.
I don't own any of the consoles you mentioned here other than PlayStation. I'd say my blissful ignorance saved me a lot of money.
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On the subject of nostalgia, I think my all-time nostalgic games (outside of FF2 (IV) maybe) are Shining Force and Shining Force II for Genesis. I think they were the first Tactical RPG's I ever played, and among my my all-time favorites.
What sucks is the series went the SEGA line, so everything was on SEGA CD or SEGA portable systems, which I never had. They finally brought games in the series back with PS2, but they're action-adventure games instead of tactical RPGs.
Did you ever get that FFIV/Chrono Trigger set on PS1 with those added cutscenes? It was pretty cool but I never got through it all. Same with Chrono Cross.
I got the FFIV/Chrono combo pack. I even got through them both, despite the annoying battle load times on Chrono trigger. FF4 has a decent story, but it's missing a lot the content and flair that makes FF6 and subsequent games so entertaining. I never tried FF5, but I can always get it on the PlayStation Network if I so desire.
Edit: The long load times of Chrono Trigger are only present on the PS version. The SNES version must be so much better without them.
FF4 missing content and flair? Blasphemy! Palom and Porom! Cid! Rydia! Plus you got that one dude Edward so you could be so happy that he finally dies!
Well, FF6 has a lot of content. My main problem (perhaps the only real flaw) with FF6 is that it introduce the "play a shit ton of mini games instead of playing the actual game in order to get items that are otherwise unattainable". To me that sent a bad thread through the Final Fantasy games which really brought itself to head in FFX, almost entirely dismantling my enjoyment of the game at times.
But anyway, FF4 is my nostalgic game of the FF series. And, like most of the American players, it was my first Final Fantasy game after the original, so it was a huge jump up in terms of character development and personality for me.
By the end, all you did in FF4 was level grind and cast reflect. At least, that's how I remembered it. Though, I was impressed at how FF4 got away with not having a character select option. Your party was always decided by the plot.
Never played FFX, but I'd be impressed if it was more about the mini-games than FF8 AKA Final Fantasy Transmute: Triple Triad Edition.
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On the subject of nostalgia, I think my all-time nostalgic games (outside of FF2 (IV) maybe) are Shining Force and Shining Force II for Genesis. I think they were the first Tactical RPG's I ever played, and among my my all-time favorites.
What sucks is the series went the SEGA line, so everything was on SEGA CD or SEGA portable systems, which I never had. They finally brought games in the series back with PS2, but they're action-adventure games instead of tactical RPGs.
Did you ever get that FFIV/Chrono Trigger set on PS1 with those added cutscenes? It was pretty cool but I never got through it all. Same with Chrono Cross.
I got the FFIV/Chrono combo pack. I even got through them both, despite the annoying battle load times on Chrono trigger. FF4 has a decent story, but it's missing a lot the content and flair that makes FF6 and subsequent games so entertaining. I never tried FF5, but I can always get it on the PlayStation Network if I so desire.
Edit: The long load times of Chrono Trigger are only present on the PS version. The SNES version must be so much better without them.
FF4 missing content and flair? Blasphemy! Palom and Porom! Cid! Rydia! Plus you got that one dude Edward so you could be so happy that he finally dies!
Well, FF6 has a lot of content. My main problem (perhaps the only real flaw) with FF6 is that it introduce the "play a shit ton of mini games instead of playing the actual game in order to get items that are otherwise unattainable". To me that sent a bad thread through the Final Fantasy games which really brought itself to head in FFX, almost entirely dismantling my enjoyment of the game at times.
But anyway, FF4 is my nostalgic game of the FF series. And, like most of the American players, it was my first Final Fantasy game after the original, so it was a huge jump up in terms of character development and personality for me.
By the end, all you did in FF4 was level grind and cast reflect. At least, that's how I remembered it. Though, I was impressed at how FF4 got away with not having a character select option. Your party was always decided by the plot.
Never played FFX, but I'd be impressed if it was more about the mini-games than FF8 AKA Final Fantasy Transmute: Triple Triad Edition.
Google how to get the ultimate weapons in FFX. Pretty sure I've never screamed so hard at my console as when I was trying to do these. I think I only finished half of them. I suppose there wasn't a single thing as prevalent as the card game in FF8, but there are so many of them. And they're such a pain, and you have to have perfect reactions. Made me want to hurt things.
I really don't mind grinding. I mean, that's kind of what Final Fantasy games are.. you grind, explore, fight boss battles, and read along with the story. That's kind of what I like. You can always increase the challenge by grinding less and going for battles ahead of your level.
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"I, Garland, will knock you all down!!"
I run a Pathfinder game on Sundays, and whenever we have 4 or fewer players (out of 6), I run a light side campaign based on the original Final Fantasy. You'll be happy to know that I preserved Garland's famous line. In this game he was a 3rd-level antipaladin. As it turns out, he did not knock all the PCs down, although I think he did knock down the party paladin. Right know they're outside Elfheim (Elfland in the original NES translation).
Although I can recognize some of its flaws today, Final Fantasy VI is still my favorite game in the series. It shocks me that it's not well-liked in Japan. It's almost certainly the most well-crafted Final Fantasy. I do love Final Fantasy IV and VII, though. V and IX are quite good. Haven't ever finished X. VIII was marred by awful systems. II and III just don't hold up today. Did I miss any? No, I think that's all the Final Fantasy games.
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I don't know what people see in FF V. The job system was cute and very exploitable (which kinda was what made it fun), but the story was downright atrocious, and the cutscenes took forever without actually advancing the plot; I remember a particularly offensive one with a flying/landing dragon, I couldn't believe the game was so happily wasting my time. There were a couple funny lines of dialogue here and there and Gilgamesh was cool in his own way, but man, the writing was overall terrible. I would have understood all this as a symptom of earlier videogame history, but FF IV has a perfectly serviceable story, so there's no real excuse!
I played the GBA remake, BTW.
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I don't know what people see in FF V. The job system was cute and very exploitable (which kinda was what made it fun), but the story was downright atrocious, and the cutscenes took forever without actually advancing the plot; I remember a particularly offensive one with a flying/landing dragon, I couldn't believe the game was so happily wasting my time. There were a couple funny lines of dialogue here and there and Gilgamesh was cool in his own way, but man, the writing was overall terrible. I would have understood all this as a symptom of earlier videogame history, but FF IV has a perfectly serviceable story, so there's no real excuse!
I played the GBA remake, BTW.
I liked the system of FFV. I don't remember paying a whole lot of credence to the story. Going through all the different jobs was fun for me. Don't ask me why. It's part of the reason I like Tactics so much. (Of course, Tactics had awesome game play and a good story. But I just like that job system, and it was really cool for me to see the origin of it. (I had played FFV after the other FFTactics and others.).)
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Although I can recognize some of its flaws today, Final Fantasy VI is still my favorite game in the series. It shocks me that it's not well-liked in Japan.
Should clarify I'm basing this off of polls published online over the years, hearsay from a couple of friends who live in Japan, and the fact that Square releases remakes and spiritual sequels to basically every game in the series except 6 (until very recently). I would assume it has a fanbase there, but they are apparently not large enough to influence Square-Enix, whereas there's clearly a demand for FF1-4, 7 and 10 stuff. In some respects, it makes sense. The atmosphere of the game is pretty different from the games that preceded it, which might have bugged longtime fans, and it didn't have the advantage of 'brand new' FMV technology and such that 7 did. From a western perspective, it was the third game we got, and we missed out on the goofier, more lighthearted games in the series that were part of its charm beforehand. For the record, FFVI is my favorite too.
As for FF5, it's in my personal top 3 in the series, though I do recognize its flaws, so I understand where you are coming from, pacovf. One of the reasons I love the game is its silly, almost parodic tone, which is better captured in other games, but is still something I enjoy; Galuf is also a character I like quite a bit. I have played the game through at least 30 times. For a long time, there were not a lot of jrpgs that were as customize-able for challenge runs, which was something I very much enjoyed doing. Lately, Dark/Demon's Souls are filling that void for me. FF5's definitely not a game for everyone, but then neither is FF2 nor FF8. (For the record, I'm one of those people who considers everything released post-Sakaguchi 'non-canon' whether it's good or not, so I'm leaving some examples out of this)
Re: Witherweaver, the origin of the job system actually goes back to FF3, though 5's version is much more robust. Both of them are games I like quite a bit, thought FFT is the king of those to me. (Bravely Default was there for me until it went completely off the deep end)
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The FF6 story was one of the best, I think.
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Did we ever get ports of FFTactics sequels, or anything to that extent?
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Yes. There is one sequel on game boy advance and one on ds. I'm not a fan, and people seem divided on them in general, though it's mostly a matter of people who played fft first disliking ffta, and people who never played the original not caring. There is a psp port of final fantasy tactics that had some extras but also added a bunch of lag that is very distracting. Fft has a modding community that has produced some cool hacks too. My favorite is lft.
If you want to play another tactics game, I would recommend tactics ogre (luct) instead. It was a super famicom game ported to ps1 overseas, and the psp version is a total overhaul that I personally liked a lot more in spite of having a ridiculously over the top translation. Tactics ogre was also designed by matsuno, and fft was a spiritual successor to it.
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Yes. There is one sequel on game boy advance and one on ds. I'm not a fan, and people seem divided on them in general, though it's mostly a matter of people who played fft first disliking ffta, and people who never played the original not caring. There is a psp port of final fantasy tactics that had some extras but also added a bunch of lag that is very distracting. Fft has a modding community that has produced some cool hacks too. My favorite is lft.
If you want to play another tactics game, I would recommend tactics ogre (luct) instead. It was a super famicom game ported to ps1 overseas, and the psp version is a total overhaul that I personally liked a lot more in spite of having a ridiculously over the top translation. Tactics ogre was also designed by matsuno, and fft was a spiritual successor to it.
I've been playing Spectral Souls, Blazing Souls, and now Record of Agarest war for Android. All tactics-based.
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Oh, I absolutely loved the job system in FFV, it was the only reason I played it to the end. Although I am not sure if the hundreds of ways it can be exploited are there intentionally or not. If you explore all areas before going to the end boss, he's a piece of cake, as in you might as well beat him in a single turn (ignoring phase changes and stuff). The GBA remake added completely ludicrous optional bosses just so that you had something challenging to do by (and after) endgame.
But I didn't feel like the story was parodic. The plot didn't feel very self-aware to me, nor were there any lampshade hanging to tell you to just relax and enjoy the "oh hey there's crystals let's go collect them" and lack of characters (interesting or otherwise!), I always felt like the story was an afterthought just to point the players towards the new gameplay. But I guess not playing the "sillier" first three games might taint my view on the subject.
FF VI story wasn't as great as people make it sound (if you take all the fluff away, it's not really groundbreaking; and the second half is reeeeaaaaally slooooooooow), BUT it mixed gameplay with the story very well, and the way it told the story was, and still is, pretty much non-standard. And also there's the opera. I'd definitely wish more games had that level of work on their plot.
I haven't played many FFs though, so I am mainly comparing with other RPGs. My personal favourite (aside from the silly greatness of Paper Mario and the Thousand-year Door) is Golden Sun, but that might be slightly tainted by nostalgia: it was the first RPG I finished (Pokemon doesn't count). Also its wonderfully designed interface spoilt me for every other RPG that I played afterwards.
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Should clarify I'm basing this off of polls published online over the years, hearsay from a couple of friends who live in Japan, and the fact that Square releases remakes and spiritual sequels to basically every game in the series except 6 (until very recently). I would assume it has a fanbase there, but they are apparently not large enough to influence Square-Enix, whereas there's clearly a demand for FF1-4, 7 and 10 stuff. In some respects, it makes sense. The atmosphere of the game is pretty different from the games that preceded it, which might have bugged longtime fans, and it didn't have the advantage of 'brand new' FMV technology and such that 7 did.
I guess that's true. My housemate nailed it when he said that Final Fantasy VI is all about regret.
When I think about what I like about FFV, the job system probably ranks a strong second place. First place goes to the innovative boss battles. For a Final Fantasy game, especially compared to its SNES brethren, FFV had very interesting bosses that required specific, often gimmicky strategies.
Did we ever get ports of FFTactics sequels, or anything to that extent?
If you have a PSP or a Vita, or any way to play PSP software, you owe it to yourself to play the Tactics Ogre remake. Tactics Ogre was made by the same people that made Final Fantasy Tactics. It's got all the really tactical battles (like FFTactics and unlike, say, Disgaea) and other things that made FFTactics great, but with most of the annoyances and downsides removed. It's…really good. I'm trying to recall some of my favorite things about it without spoiling too much.
• It's got a fantastic plot with lots of political intrigue, like FFT. In addition, the plot branches.
• Instead of getting experience and job points based on each action a unit takes, experience is just divided up evenly among all your troops after a battle. No more hitting then healing an enemy (or ally) a bunch of times in order to make sure one of your units isn't falling behind in XP. You can just concentrate on ACTUALLY WINNING THE BATTLE. Which is awesome, because the battles are tough.
• In fact, characters don't even have levels. Instead, your jobs just level up for the whole party. This means that if you want to hire a new archer, you don't have to slog him/her up from Level 1. The new archer will just be the same level as all your other archers. That may sound lame because it seems like all your characters are interchangeable, but that's because I haven't told you that…
• It's got an incredible skill system. Although it's your Jobs that get the XP, all characters in a battle get Skill Points that they can use to buy cool skills, both passive and active. If memory serves, you can assign, like, 10 of these to a character at a time.
• There is a crafting system. The one issue with it is that crafting can fail, but not really because you can just save right before attempting it and try until it works. That's probably my biggest gripe about the game. But the things you actually can craft are cool. Each piece of equipment can be upgraded once, usually to a new item that's called "ItemName +1". Not very creative naming, but the neat thing is that in addition to giving a stat boost, the upgrade will usually also bestow a specific, interesting property to the item, like a spear that lowers your targets' defense.
• There are a ton of cool items, ranging from run-of-the-mill healing potions, to crafting materials, to stat-boosting and stat-reducing items. My favorite example is: there is an item that makes it rain. Are you at the bottom of a hill with a bunch of archers at the top? If you've played FFT, you know how deadly that can be. Make it rain! Good luck hitting my army through pouring rain, archers!
It's just a phenomenal game. In fact, I think I have to go play it again now. I haven't yet finished it, but that's more a reflection on me than on the game itself. Also, there are some side quests in the final chapter that take a sudden jump in level.
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FF VI story wasn't as great as people make it sound (if you take all the fluff away, it's not really groundbreaking; and the second half is reeeeaaaaally slooooooooow), BUT it mixed gameplay with the story very well, and the way it told the story was, and still is, pretty much non-standard. And also there's the opera. I'd definitely wish more games had that level of work on their plot.
For me, interesting, engaging characters are more important than a creative plot. Final Fantasy VI wins the character award hands-down, apart from some significant exceptions in the second half of the game. The problem is that there are only three characters you actually have to get in the World of Ruin: Celes, Edgar, and Setzer. This means that whenever you recruit another character, that character has character-specific dialog, but your party really doesn't. Who in my party is speaking so eloquently to Cyan? Is it Gau? UMARO?!?
Specifically, you probably have Sabin by the time you recruit Edgar. When this finally happens, Sabin does get one line if you have him, but Edgar doesn't even acknowledge his brother's presence. Come on, Square! You can do better than that!
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@Tactics - I've only played Knight of Lodis. Many times, though. Other stuff just as good, I assume?
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@Tactics - I've only played Knight of Lodis. Many times, though. Other stuff just as good, I assume?
Knight of Lodis is pretty much TO lite. It's not bad, though it does run very slowly. LUCT is much more expansive (it has a law, neutral and chaos route with different missions in addition to a lengthy main quest). I did like the achievement stars or whatever it was you could earn on your characters in KoL, though.
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On the subject of nostalgia, I think my all-time nostalgic games (outside of FF2 (IV) maybe) are Shining Force and Shining Force II for Genesis. I think they were the first Tactical RPG's I ever played, and among my my all-time favorites.
What sucks is the series went the SEGA line, so everything was on SEGA CD or SEGA portable systems, which I never had. They finally brought games in the series back with PS2, but they're action-adventure games instead of tactical RPGs.
Did you ever get that FFIV/Chrono Trigger set on PS1 with those added cutscenes? It was pretty cool but I never got through it all. Same with Chrono Cross.
I got the FFIV/Chrono combo pack. I even got through them both, despite the annoying battle load times on Chrono trigger. FF4 has a decent story, but it's missing a lot the content and flair that makes FF6 and subsequent games so entertaining. I never tried FF5, but I can always get it on the PlayStation Network if I so desire.
Edit: The long load times of Chrono Trigger are only present on the PS version. The SNES version must be so much better without them.
FF4 missing content and flair? Blasphemy! Palom and Porom! Cid! Rydia! Plus you got that one dude Edward so you could be so happy that he finally dies!
Well, FF6 has a lot of content. My main problem (perhaps the only real flaw) with FF6 is that it introduce the "play a shit ton of mini games instead of playing the actual game in order to get items that are otherwise unattainable". To me that sent a bad thread through the Final Fantasy games which really brought itself to head in FFX, almost entirely dismantling my enjoyment of the game at times.
But anyway, FF4 is my nostalgic game of the FF series. And, like most of the American players, it was my first Final Fantasy game after the original, so it was a huge jump up in terms of character development and personality for me.
By the end, all you did in FF4 was level grind and cast reflect. At least, that's how I remembered it. Though, I was impressed at how FF4 got away with not having a character select option. Your party was always decided by the plot.
Never played FFX, but I'd be impressed if it was more about the mini-games than FF8 AKA Final Fantasy Transmute: Triple Triad Edition.
Google how to get the ultimate weapons in FFX. Pretty sure I've never screamed so hard at my console as when I was trying to do these. I think I only finished half of them. I suppose there wasn't a single thing as prevalent as the card game in FF8, but there are so many of them. And they're such a pain, and you have to have perfect reactions. Made me want to hurt things.
I really don't mind grinding. I mean, that's kind of what Final Fantasy games are.. you grind, explore, fight boss battles, and read along with the story. That's kind of what I like. You can always increase the challenge by grinding less and going for battles ahead of your level.
The descriptions on how to power the FFX ultimate weapons srem both extremely varied and absurdly time-consuming.
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So this story has a happy ending. A friend of mine stopped by last night and got my N64 working. He lifted up the cartridge, blew into it NES style and put it back in. Problem solved. Apparently when the game isn't working the signal isn't sent at all to the TV. Who knew? Now if you'll excuse me, I'm gonna get lost in Ocarina of Time.
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So this story has a happy ending. A friend of mine stopped by last night and my N64 working. He lifted up the cartridge, blew into it NES style and put it back in. Problem solved. Apparently when the game isn't working the signal isn't sent at all to the TV. Who knew?
Now you can enjoy all those games you missed out on 15 years ago.
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The descriptions on how to power the FFX ultimate weapons srem both extremely varied and absurdly time-consuming.
Each one is a crazy minigame that is frustrating as hell. Especially the ones that rely on response time. The one with the lightning spires, you have to hit the right button in response to things and it gets faster and faster. Another one you have to catch butterflies before they disappear, or before the timer goes. I'd rather just grind for random rare drops.
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So this story has a happy ending. A friend of mine stopped by last night and got my N64 working. He lifted up the cartridge, blew into it NES style and put it back in. Problem solved. Apparently when the game isn't working the signal isn't sent at all to the TV. Who knew? Now if you'll excuse me, I'm gonna get lost in Ocarina of Time.
I told you this back in the first page!!!!
Why don't people ever listen!?!?
RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHG!!!!!!!!
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So this story has a happy ending. A friend of mine stopped by last night and got my N64 working. He lifted up the cartridge, blew into it NES style and put it back in. Problem solved. Apparently when the game isn't working the signal isn't sent at all to the TV. Who knew? Now if you'll excuse me, I'm gonna get lost in Ocarina of Time.
I told you this back in the first page!!!!
Why don't people ever listen!?!?
RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHG!!!!!!!!
Because the TV wasn't getting a signal at all. I had no idea the game would be to blame for that.
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So this story has a happy ending. A friend of mine stopped by last night and got my N64 working. He lifted up the cartridge, blew into it NES style and put it back in. Problem solved. Apparently when the game isn't working the signal isn't sent at all to the TV. Who knew? Now if you'll excuse me, I'm gonna get lost in Ocarina of Time.
I told you this back in the first page!!!!
Why don't people ever listen!?!?
RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHG!!!!!!!!
Because the TV wasn't getting a signal at all. I had no idea the game would be to blame for that.
I find your lack of faith... disturbing.
EDIT: I think the N64 has no software by itself, so if there's no game (or the game isn't working), there's no signal to be sent to the TV. Think old VHS player.
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So this story has a happy ending. A friend of mine stopped by last night and got my N64 working. He lifted up the cartridge, blew into it NES style and put it back in. Problem solved. Apparently when the game isn't working the signal isn't sent at all to the TV. Who knew? Now if you'll excuse me, I'm gonna get lost in Ocarina of Time.
I told you this back in the first page!!!!
Why don't people ever listen!?!?
RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHG!!!!!!!!
And we wonder why tech support people ask us to do the stupidest things.
4) Try a different game -- it may be the cartridge
I at least assumed you had tried the blow-into-the-cartridge-trick. ;)
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My N64 still makes a black screen if the cartridge doesn't work...
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So this story has a happy ending. A friend of mine stopped by last night and got my N64 working. He lifted up the cartridge, blew into it NES style and put it back in. Problem solved. Apparently when the game isn't working the signal isn't sent at all to the TV. Who knew? Now if you'll excuse me, I'm gonna get lost in Ocarina of Time.
I told you this back in the first page!!!!
Why don't people ever listen!?!?
RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHG!!!!!!!!
And we wonder why tech support people ask us to do the stupidest things.
4) Try a different game -- it may be the cartridge
I at least assumed you had tried the blow-into-the-cartridge-trick. ;)
I salute your earlier identification of the source of the problem, but since we are in the forum we are in, I have to point out the edge case where your solution doesn't work but mine does: all the cartridges AndrewisFTTW has haven't seen any recent use and as such need to be blown into to function.
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So this story has a happy ending. A friend of mine stopped by last night and got my N64 working. He lifted up the cartridge, blew into it NES style and put it back in. Problem solved. Apparently when the game isn't working the signal isn't sent at all to the TV. Who knew? Now if you'll excuse me, I'm gonna get lost in Ocarina of Time.
Again, if only your TV wasn't so modern, this never would have been an issue. That static blip when you first turn on the console is priceless.
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So this story has a happy ending. A friend of mine stopped by last night and got my N64 working. He lifted up the cartridge, blew into it NES style and put it back in. Problem solved. Apparently when the game isn't working the signal isn't sent at all to the TV. Who knew? Now if you'll excuse me, I'm gonna get lost in Ocarina of Time.
I told you this back in the first page!!!!
Why don't people ever listen!?!?
RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHG!!!!!!!!
And we wonder why tech support people ask us to do the stupidest things.
4) Try a different game -- it may be the cartridge
I at least assumed you had tried the blow-into-the-cartridge-trick. ;)
I salute your earlier identification of the source of the problem, but since we are in the forum we are in, I have to point out the edge case where your solution doesn't work but mine does: all the cartridges AndrewisFTTW has haven't seen any recent use and as such need to be blown into to function.
I know this is not recommended, but blowing into the N64 itself sometimes creates miracles. The recommended cleaning method is to use a cotton swab dipped in drying alcohol to clean the cartridge connectors.
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I always give them a good wash in warm soapy water
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So this story has a happy ending. A friend of mine stopped by last night and got my N64 working. He lifted up the cartridge, blew into it NES style and put it back in. Problem solved. Apparently when the game isn't working the signal isn't sent at all to the TV. Who knew? Now if you'll excuse me, I'm gonna get lost in Ocarina of Time.
I told you this back in the first page!!!!
Why don't people ever listen!?!?
RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHG!!!!!!!!
And we wonder why tech support people ask us to do the stupidest things.
4) Try a different game -- it may be the cartridge
I at least assumed you had tried the blow-into-the-cartridge-trick. ;)
I salute your earlier identification of the source of the problem, but since we are in the forum we are in, I have to point out the edge case where your solution doesn't work but mine does: all the cartridges AndrewisFTTW has haven't seen any recent use and as such need to be blown into to function.
I know this is not recommended, but blowing into the N64 itself sometimes creates miracles. The recommended cleaning method is to use a cotton swab dipped in drying alcohol to clean the cartridge connectors.
I did the "blow into the console" trick last night. It worked nicely.
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I believe that blowing into the cartridge is actually likely to damage it. It moves the grit around, which might make it work, but also scrapes at the connections.
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I believe that blowing into the cartridge is actually likely to damage it. It moves the grit around, which might make it work, but also scrapes at the connections.
Have you ever had a NES, SNES, N64, or handheld system that was made by Nintendo? Because those things don't work without blowing in them.
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Does anyone play Disney Infinity?
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I believe that blowing into the cartridge is actually likely to damage it. It moves the grit around, which might make it work, but also scrapes at the connections.
Have you ever had a NES, SNES, N64, or handheld system that was made by Nintendo? Because those things don't work without blowing in them.
http://mentalfloss.com/article/12589/did-blowing-nintendo-cartridges-really-help
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Does anyone play Disney Infinity?
Is that that thing where you can plug in those figurines to play as various characters? I played that over at my cousin's, it was pretty fun
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Does anyone play Disney Infinity?
Is that that thing where you can plug in those figurines to play as various characters? I played that over at my cousin's, it was pretty fun
Yeah. Toy Box mode is sort of like Disney Minecraft, and there are adventures specific to the figurines. My daughter is a big fan now, but I thought maybe there was a following. It took some doing to get the Frozen characters.
Seems cool.
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I believe that blowing into the cartridge is actually likely to damage it. It moves the grit around, which might make it work, but also scrapes at the connections.
Have you ever had a NES, SNES, N64, or handheld system that was made by Nintendo? Because those things don't work without blowing in them.
http://mentalfloss.com/article/12589/did-blowing-nintendo-cartridges-really-help
That article pretty much says "it doesn't do anything, but maybe it does! But it doesn't. Unless it does."
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I believe that blowing into the cartridge is actually likely to damage it. It moves the grit around, which might make it work, but also scrapes at the connections.
Have you ever had a NES, SNES, N64, or handheld system that was made by Nintendo? Because those things don't work without blowing in them.
http://mentalfloss.com/article/12589/did-blowing-nintendo-cartridges-really-help
That article pretty much says "it doesn't do anything, but maybe it does! But it doesn't. Unless it does."
My reading was more: "It's hard to tell if it does anything, but if anything it probably damages the cartridge."
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I believe that blowing into the cartridge is actually likely to damage it. It moves the grit around, which might make it work, but also scrapes at the connections.
Have you ever had a NES, SNES, N64, or handheld system that was made by Nintendo? Because those things don't work without blowing in them.
http://mentalfloss.com/article/12589/did-blowing-nintendo-cartridges-really-help
That article pretty much says "it doesn't do anything, but maybe it does! But it doesn't. Unless it does."
My reading was more: "It's hard to tell if it does anything, but if anything it probably damages the cartridge."
I think it said it could possibly cause long term damage by way of mold and corrosion but could also possibly have short term benefits. I guess there's nothing definitive about it.
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I'm re-learning the part of gaming where you want to throw your controller across the room because you can't get past one specific part. Ten years ago I would've done it. I'm barely restraining myself right now.
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Yes, no emulator save points makes it so much more annoying and rewarding.
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I can certainly see how blowing into the cartridge could have harmed the cartridge in the long run.
But it felt like a gust of wind did help. Maybe it was confirmation bias. After all, if it was a panacea, then it should have worked the first time. I remember blowing into the Atari and Odyssey cartridges a few times before they work. So while rearranging the dust may have helped, it wasn't always a quick fix. In that case, the alcohol solution might have been better after all. Oh well.
Not that matter, since my childhood consoles are all long gone, destroyed in a flood.
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Yes, no emulator save points makes it so much more annoying and rewarding.
Depends on the k... game.
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Speaking of old school Nintendo stuff, I found my old Game Boy Pocket at my parents' house yesterday. And yes, that is Pokemon: Red Version in there. When my mom took me to the mall and bought it for me, I didn't lift my head up for the rest of the day. Probably for the rest of the week.
(http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l175/AndrewisFTTW/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20140511_214311_690_zpshcjw8hsg.jpg) (http://s96.photobucket.com/user/AndrewisFTTW/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20140511_214311_690_zpshcjw8hsg.jpg.html)
I also found my brother's Game Boy Advance SP that he gave to me.
Game Boy Pocket games:
-Pokemon Red
-Zelda: Link's Awakening
-Kirby's Dream Land
-Harvest Moon
Game Boy Advance games:
-Golden Sun
-Golden Sun: The Lost Age
-Ballistic Ecks vs Sever
-Zelda: A Link to the Past & Four Swords
-Mario & Luigi Superstar Saga
-F-Zero Maximum Velocity