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[mcmcsalot]

I think mcmc is looking towny.

How nice of you. Do you think the friction between mcmc and and e casts any suspicion on e, then?

Sketchy hit and run buddying, I was excited about the post originally and excited to see the answer. Let's not do this again eevee!

[Eevee]

I disagree with e's analysis, but it doesn't look scummy to me at all.

[Jimmmmm]

Put me in the "everyone stop freaking out about scum Barons, it's a very long shot" camp.

It's a fairly long shot. But it's by far the most impactful scenario with regards to the cards. If using them somehow helped Town in a significant way then this point would be valid, but little to no gain is not worth a low probability / high impact risk.

[2.71828.....]

Bleh

Prod: Roadrunner

[LaLight]

Prod sent.

[Roadrunner7671]

Oh hi!

[Roadrunner7671]

I haven't really been posting because I'm sort of nervous about my card. I don't want to say more because I don't want to claim.

[Robz888]

Okay... that's sort of a weird thing to say, no?

[Roadrunner7671]

Okay... that's sort of a weird thing to say

no

[Eevee]

We should try to approach this more as a normal mafia game and worry about the roles later when they come into play.

No idea how, though..

I'm town! For sure. Discuss?

[Roadrunner7671]

I'm town! For sure. Discuss?

Prove

[2.71828.....]

I'm town! For sure. Discuss?

Prove

Town is my friend
Eevee is friendly
Friendly people are my friends
Eevee is town

[2.71828.....]

We should try to approach this more as a normal mafia game and worry about the roles later when they come into play.

No idea how, though..

I'm town! For sure. Discuss?

So, the issue with that is we don't have normal roles even for a normal game.  I still like my idea of instead of claiming (which I don't think we should do) we should discuss how to use roles if they are to be used. 

Like, priests should investigate people at L-1.  Discuss?

[Jimmmmm]

Like, priests should investigate people at L-1.  Discuss?

Strong disagreement. Learning what card someone has provides nothing about their alignment.

[2.71828.....]

Is anyone around?  This feels really slow.  Maybe because no one is posting.

I can keep requesting prods all day, but it won't do us any good.

[2.71828.....]

Like, priests should investigate people at L-1.  Discuss?

Strong disagreement. Learning what card someone has provides nothing about their alignment.

So, according to this logic no one should really ever use cards ever.  Is that what you are proposing?

[Jimmmmm]

Like, priests should investigate people at L-1.  Discuss?

Strong disagreement. Learning what card someone has provides nothing about their alignment.

So, according to this logic no one should really ever use cards ever.  Is that what you are proposing?

More or less. Maybe at lylo if they're helpful.

[Jimmmmm]

I guess if a Prince was being used each night we could possibly hunt for the scummy Prince.

[2.71828.....]

Like, priests should investigate people at L-1.  Discuss?

Strong disagreement. Learning what card someone has provides nothing about their alignment.

So, according to this logic no one should really ever use cards ever.  Is that what you are proposing?

More or less. Maybe at lylo if they're helpful.

I mean, I see your point of view.  But....vigs gonna vig.  Point being, if someone uses a card it does not mean that they are scum.  Nor does it mean that they are town.  I just think that the discussion should be had about how to use cards.  For example, what is the best use of prince?  Target someone that you think is scum?  Target someone you think is town but is breadcrumbing random stuff about their card (see RR and PPS)? 

I know prince could prove extremely useful for us to use against someone who might be scum.  It eliminates some level of coordination between scum in using their cards together.

PPE your comment on Prince.  I don't think using your card is scummy there.

[Jimmmmm]

I've had the discussion. The best use of Prince is in the hands of scum, to either shoot for the Princess, PoE a Baron target or try to get a Baron in the hands of their partner. Town using it is a wash, potentially helps scum use Baron, and is just as likely to put a Baron in the hands of scum as remove it.

[Jimmmmm]

I mean, the cards ultimately add up to a potential extra night kill available to either side. Chances are the result is an extra Town death. The best way to play this game is to ignore the cards until there's such a time as they could actually be useful (say in lylo), and try to lynch scum.

[Jimmmmm]

For the record, the (neutral) likelihood that scum are currently holding a Baron is ~24%.

[Eevee]

I think jimmm's arguments make sense, as boring as it may be. unvote

[pingpongsam]

I don't disagree with Jimmmm. Feel like I've already posited ideas for what we could do per e's suggestion. I've got one more. Probably terrible. Let's roll a die for a number then each player rolls a die and the player closest to the original number claims their card. If there is a guard they investigate for truthiness. Yep, terrible. We out two cards and even if the claimant was scum he gets truth cred and a new card I presume we won't know the type of.

Anybody else got a more terrible idea?

[mcmcsalot]

Yea for realz I think 2.7 is scummily pushing the claim stuff holding us back from leaving setup discussion and card fishing.

Also yea rr's post was weird

Also eevee' shut and run buddy then explanation right after me calling him out is slightly scummy.

Towny on jimm and pps