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[2.71828.....]

 Also, I agree with only Jake shooting tonight.

[2.71828.....]

 And Jake should share his target. If they get doctored by scum then they become an IC.

But preferably we just lynch scum today for the flawless victory

[luckat]

Just noticed you said you were lucky. But can you elaborate a bit?

Well, if you want elaboration, IDP was basically RVS and a response to him voting me, not real suspicion. I was honestly pretty surprised when he turned out to be scum. As for schadd, I did give reasons for voting him, but he wasn't necessarily a better vote from the information I had than anyone else who was off wagon, except possibly Cuzz since he already had plenty of votes and I thought it would be good for us to look at more than just one person. And it was also lucky that others joined both my votes.

And Jake should share his target. If they get doctored by scum then they become an IC.

But preferably we just lynch scum today for the flawless victory

Jake? Assuming you mean Dylan, I agree with this. That way if his kill is blocked, we know who he attacked even if Dylan is killed. Of course, that's assuming we know there's at least one town PR shot left. There probably is, but do we know for sure that the additional shot we got from Space's death can't have been used the same night we got it?

And yeah, hopefully we can just lynch scum today., although, I'm not sure it's quite a flawless victory given the vig killed a townie.

[The_Wine_Merchant]

Well that response leaves me feeling townier on luckat.

[The_Wine_Merchant]

And Jake should share his target. If they get doctored by scum then they become an IC.

But preferably we just lynch scum today for the flawless victory

In that case isn't the game solved?

[The_Wine_Merchant]

Example:

Alive: Cuzz, TWM, Dylan, mcmc, 2.7, luckat, ashersky, WW = 8 alive, 1 mafia

First case scenario:

Lynch: ashersky - town 7 alive, 1 mafia
Mafia NK: Dylan - town 6 alive, 1 mafia
Dylan kills, but is doctored TWM (now confirmed town)

Lynch: luckat - town 5 alive, 1 mafia
Mafia NK: 2.7 - 4 alive, 1 mafia

Lynch: WW - win with Cuzz, mcmc, TWM alive

Other scenario:

Lynch: ashersky - town - town 7 alive, 1 mafia
Mafia NK: Dylan - town 6 alive, 1 mafia
Dylan kill: luckat - town - 5 alive, 1 mafia

Lynch: TWM - town - 4 alive, 1 mafia
Mafia nk: 2.7 - 3 alive 1 mafia

Lynch: WW - win with mcmc and Cuzz alive

Either way the game is over and mafia should white flag. Right? Or am I totally missing something?

[The_Wine_Merchant]

And I am going to switch to vote: ashersky

[2.71828.....]

And Jake should share his target. If they get doctored by scum then they become an IC.

But preferably we just lynch scum today for the flawless victory

Jake? Assuming you mean Dylan, I agree with this. That way if his kill is blocked, we know who he attacked even if Dylan is killed. Of course, that's assuming we know there's at least one town PR shot left.

Oops. Yeah, of course Dylan. Sorry, not sure why I confused them

[luckat]

And Jake should share his target. If they get doctored by scum then they become an IC.

Jake? Assuming you mean Dylan, I agree with this. That way if his kill is blocked, we know who he attacked even if Dylan is killed. Of course, that's assuming we know there's at least one town PR shot left. There probably is, but do we know for sure that the additional shot we got from Space's death can't have been used the same night we got it?

Okay, yeah, I asked gkrieg and he said that since deaths happen last, the shot from Space's death can't have been used already. So we know our PRs have at least one shot left. So if Dylan says ahead of time who he plans to kill we have a guaranteed win regardless of whether he dies and whether the kill is blocked.

[The_Wine_Merchant]

Well i am not white flagging, given my town alignment.

[ashersky]

And I am going to switch to vote: ashersky

For what reason?

I love the hilariously terrible reaction to my phenomenal hammer from folks.

I think WW is the most likely scum here.

vote: WW

[The_Wine_Merchant]

Well it was because you had been online. But hadn't posted. But now that you have that theory is dead.

But seriously mafia. The game is over. You really going to make us go through the motions to find you?

Vote: WW

[ashersky]

Just lost a big post to a 4G problem.

Anyway, it was about how I don't think anyone else makes sense as the last scum.

[The_Wine_Merchant]

I really want it to be luckat.

[mcmcsalot]

Example:

Alive: Cuzz, TWM, Dylan, mcmc, 2.7, luckat, ashersky, WW = 8 alive, 1 mafia

First case scenario:

Lynch: ashersky - town 7 alive, 1 mafia
Mafia NK: Dylan - town 6 alive, 1 mafia
Dylan kills, but is doctored TWM (now confirmed town)

Lynch: luckat - town 5 alive, 1 mafia
Mafia NK: 2.7 - 4 alive, 1 mafia

Lynch: WW - win with Cuzz, mcmc, TWM alive

Other scenario:

Lynch: ashersky - town - town 7 alive, 1 mafia
Mafia NK: Dylan - town 6 alive, 1 mafia
Dylan kill: luckat - town - 5 alive, 1 mafia

Lynch: TWM - town - 4 alive, 1 mafia
Mafia nk: 2.7 - 3 alive 1 mafia

Lynch: WW - win with mcmc and Cuzz alive

Either way the game is over and mafia should white flag. Right? Or am I totally missing something?

Yes I forgot that the mafia not being able to self target means the vig target is an ic.

[mcmcsalot]

So we lynch one of twm/ww/ash/luckat and Dylan vigs one of them, be must let us know who he is targeting so if mafia doctors then and kills dylan we know who is an ic.

I would like to lynch twm based on my day one thought plus the fact that twm ended both days on confirmed townies who he was actively making cases on. Also I think twm is scum based on the fact that if he isn't, the entire scum team has spent days one and two making zero cases on anyone and spent most of the game voting for eachother. I mean if ash, ww, or luckat are scum the bussed so hard the game is unwinnable for scum. Also if twm is town why did no scum join my wagon when I was pushing for twm day 1 or join twm's cuzz wagon when he was pushing cuzz day 2. I can't see scum bussing instead of supporting one of those cases which would both be town vs. town of twm was town.

So we should lynch twm and Dylan tell us who he wants to shoot, I would put my second guess on ash since he came in late and may not have had time to start playing a great scum game.

[2.71828.....]

I am basically waiting for Dylan to post and confirm who he is shooting tonight. Then I will help get whatever lynch through

[mcmcsalot]

I am basically waiting for Dylan to post and confirm who he is shooting tonight. Then I will help get whatever lynch through

Yep, currently twm/ash are voting ww and I'm voting twm with 5 to lynch. Me/you/cuzz/dylan/anyone should vote for twm after dylan confirms he is shooting ashersky or witherweaver, or luckat.

[Cuzz]

And I am going to switch to vote: ashersky

For what reason?

I love the hilariously terrible reaction to my phenomenal hammer from folks.

I think WW is the most likely scum here.

vote: WW

This is way too aggressive considering the people who reacted so "hilariously terribly" are now both confirmed town (me and QS)

Ash is scum, just like he was yesterday.

[Cuzz]

Just lost a big post to a 4G problem.

Anyway, it was about how I don't think anyone else makes sense as the last scum.

Also what townie says this when the game is practically solved?

[Witherweaver]

I'm really okay with either TWM or Ash.  TWM is more likely given voting history.

[mcmcsalot]

I'm really okay with either TWM or Ash.  TWM is more likely given voting history.

Yea lynching twm and shooting ash is clearly the best option. Even though it doesn't matter because then we have time to lynch both ww and luckat.

[mcmcsalot]

Juuuust waiting on that dylan confirmation...

[The_Wine_Merchant]

So we lynch one of twm/ww/ash/luckat and Dylan vigs one of them, be must let us know who he is targeting so if mafia doctors then and kills dylan we know who is an ic.

I would like to lynch twm based on my day one thought plus the fact that twm ended both days on confirmed townies who he was actively making cases on. Also I think twm is scum based on the fact that if he isn't, the entire scum team has spent days one and two making zero cases on anyone and spent most of the game voting for eachother. I mean if ash, ww, or luckat are scum the bussed so hard the game is unwinnable for scum. Also if twm is town why did no scum join my wagon when I was pushing for twm day 1 or join twm's cuzz wagon when he was pushing cuzz day 2. I can't see scum bussing instead of supporting one of those cases which would both be town vs. town of twm was town.

So we should lynch twm and Dylan tell us who he wants to shoot, I would put my second guess on ash since he came in late and may not have had time to start playing a great scum game.

Feel free to lynch me based off not ending the day on confirmed townies instead of the scum lynches. Just a quick reminder that making cases on confirmed townies, especially when they are actually decent cases (the one on Cuzz certainly was, confirmed townie Cuzz even admitted it). And that I was completely and totally off line (vacation and work) when the wagons on scum did appear. But ok. PoE is a thing. So lynch me for that.

But your points on Day 1 I still maintain were complete crap and full of bias toward me. What are you going to do when I flip town? I don't mean in the context of the game. We will still win. I'll get another little green line in my signature. I mean in the context of how you interact with me in all games? Will you at least try and stop automatically scum reading me for just being myself? I doubt it. I imagine you will somehow blame your bad read on me.

Also the irony of being lynched for actually making cases and playing the game compared to the others who, as you say "made zero cases on anyone." As for your other points about me. I can't get in the mind of scum that frankly played a bad game. You can ask them why they didn't try and mislynch me or Cuzz when the game is over.

Anyways. Let's just get this moving along. Apparently scum is going to be annoying and make this play out. I'll self vote if I am on after Dylan shows up, but I am waiting until Dylan shows up as scum's one chance here is to get a lynch through before Dylan shows up.

With that in mind

unvote just to play, duper super safe.

[mcmcsalot]

Twm if you flip town I think I will continue to read you as I have been. I still don't get why you think I'm biased, I have read you correctly as town in the past and correctly as scum.  If you are town this will be the first game I read you wrong and I'm honestly not scum reading you super hard. I think my day one points were solid for day one, and toward the end of the day I was happy to lynch idp over you. Day two I was happy to lynch schadd who was much scummier than you. Now I have to look at the fact that you have pushed cases on townies and not on scum and the rest of the potential scum players have done nothing to help scum so I have to either believe you have terrible reads and played a bad town game, and scum hasn't tried to help their teammates at all, or you have played a valliant scum game and got really unlucky your teammates didn't fight harder against their lynch and the pr's died in the order they did.

Lastly just to clarify I think your cases and play in this game has been much different than in mafia 102 where I correctly read you as town and prevented your lynch even though you refused to lynch scum!faust and scum!galz and wanted to lynch town dylan/gkrieg/witherweaver.

I really think you only feel like I'm biased because whenever we are both town we disagree on reads a lot. If you are town here we will have been town in m100 where we both had meh reads, m102 where you had horrible reads, and this game where you have had horrible reads, and that happens I've had plenty of games of terrible reads. The fact still remains I thought you were town in m102 and I think you are scum here, I do not for the life of me understand how this could be interpreted as a bias.

Like if you are town and still think I am biased after this game I would love to hop on a skype or discord call to really understand why you think I'm biased.