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[ashersky]

@ash -

that is why ANY SK might want to kill Volt, not why specifically Axxle SK might want to kill Volt. That argument sucks.

That's a good point, I guess.  Since Axxle is the SK, though, it fits.

I re-read D2, guess who only posted 4 times total on D2.  Axxle.  It was two separate times with back-to-back short posts.  The first set was a "I'll hammer Eevee" thing, the second time was his vote and a Lynch All Major Arcana Scum joke.

[ashersky]

D3 was the Wands reveal day, when we claimed.  I went first.  Before Axxle claimed, there was this from him:

There is definitely a SK in this setup so says the flavor.

It's not necessarily a Wands though, especially because I really don't think Asher is he SK.

[Axxle]

D3 was the Wands reveal day, when we claimed.  I went first.  Before Axxle claimed, there was this from him:

There is definitely a SK in this setup so says the flavor.

It's not necessarily a Wands though, especially because I really don't think Asher is he SK.

And I was wrong.

[ashersky]

D3 was the Wands reveal day, when we claimed.  I went first.  Before Axxle claimed, there was this from him:

There is definitely a SK in this setup so says the flavor.

It's not necessarily a Wands though, especially because I really don't think Asher is he SK.

And I was wrong.

The evidence is against you.  You were roleblocked N3 and there was no SK kill.  The roleblocker and final werewolf were dead N4 and there was only an SK kill.  You admit to lying in your on D3 claim!  You are caught, and town wins.

[shraeye]

Busy now.  I will get to this in 2 days time.  I will be upset if lynches happen before then.

[Axxle]

Don't worry, that'll be impossible unless someone goes crazy and self votes or lynches you even though you're a mason.

[ashersky]

Busy now.  I will get to this in 2 days time.  I will be upset if lynches happen before then.

Don't worry.  You are the only person not voting, so unless Axxle self-votes, the game is on pause for you.

[Grujah]

You were roleblocked N3 and there was no SK kill.

O yeah, this too.

[Axxle]

Easily explained by multiple kills on the same person.

[ashersky]

Easily explained by multiple kills on the same person.

Except flavor didn't show that, and you yourself pointed to kill flavors early in the game.  I believe two kills on one body would show multiple kill flavors.  (shot and slit throat, for example)

[Grujah]

Actually, that happened Night 2 and Night 3.

So, two times there were 2 hits on the same person, and on both nights, accidently, Arch blocked you?


Yeah right.

Occam's Razor and staff.

[Grujah]

Actually, that happened Night 2 and Night 3.

Night 3 and Night 4.

[ashersky]

Actually, that happened Night 2 and Night 3.

Night 3 and Night 4.

Night 4 Arch was dead (so he didn't roleblock Axxle), and Cuzz died by SK throat slicing.

[Grujah]

Actually, that happened Night 2 and Night 3.

Night 3 and Night 4.

Night 2 and 3, I was right the first time. (And he posted whom he blocked days 3 and 4, that got me confused).
Hard to do when cayvie doesn't update first post.

Quotes:
"N2: I targeted Axxle. I was planning on roleblocking one of the Wands (yuma, ashersky, or Axxle). I didn't want to Roleblock yuma because he seemed pretty towny, didn't think ashersky was scum, he had the same thinking about Eevee as I did, and Axxle I thought was being slightly suspicious. So I roleblocked him."

-That night only yuma died, he was mauled.

"Meanwhile, I'll Roleblock Axxle until I get NKed. Or I guess I could Roleblock Lekkit. It shouldnt matter if sparky is scum."

Than, night 3, only Galz died. Next morning, Arch says
"Roleblocked Axxle."

[Axxle]

I think mauling can cover up a slit throat.

And Day 4 was opened with no flavor if I remember right.

[Grujah]

I think mauling can cover up a slit throat.

And Day 4 was opened with no flavor if I remember right.

Still, no SK kill both nights that Arch blocked you. Can't be coincidence.

Before you say "SK knew I was going to be blocked N3 so he no-killed to frame me":

Arch also said:
"I'm Roleblocking him[Axxle] tonight. Or Lekkit if sparky is scum. I wont specify which until tommorow (if I'm alive) to keep scum guessing."

In his last D3 post.

[Axxle]

Has to be coincidence from my perspective.

Or maybe ash purposefully no killed?

[shraeye]

Sorry for the delay, but I don't have the mental energy to sort out these claims/scenarios right now.  I will do it later when I can focus.

Plus, this lets me fiat that there should be some pauses between games as we calm down from one ending, then get ready excitedly for the next to start.  I feel like players are reaching some mafia-exhaustion point, where we keep playing out of a sense of duty and are getting more personal, spiteful, and unfriendly.

[Grujah]

When is the deadline?


BTW shra, as I said in mason QT, just hammer Axxle.

[Grujah]

As a side note, if he was town, he would (should?) be going around trying to prove his innocence instead of taking it calmly. He know he's SK and that he screwed up, and than we are going to lynch him anyway, so he doesn't care really

[ashersky]

When is the deadline?

No clue.  Up to Dsell at this point.

[Dsell]

When is the deadline?

No clue.  Up to Dsell at this point.

Two weeks from January 14th, so the deadline will be January 28th. Plenty of time.

[Axxle]

As a side note, if he was town, he would (should?) be going around trying to prove his innocence instead of taking it calmly. He know he's SK and that he screwed up, and than we are going to lynch him anyway, so he doesn't care really

I disappear all the time in situations like this.  Too stressful.  I'll go back through the thread this afternoon but can't promise anything.

[shraeye]

As a side note, if he was town, he would (should?) be going around trying to prove his innocence instead of taking it calmly. He know he's SK and that he screwed up, and than we are going to lynch him anyway, so he doesn't care really

I don't in general read lack of talking in a situation like this as a scumtell.

I already have like 5 pages of accusations and counter-accusations to sort out.  I'm definitely not asking anybody to keep rehashing the same case they've already said 2-3 times.  If anyone wants to put a big summary post together, that would be helpful.

More yelling back and forth would not be helpful.

[ashersky]

As a side note, if he was town, he would (should?) be going around trying to prove his innocence instead of taking it calmly. He know he's SK and that he screwed up, and than we are going to lynch him anyway, so he doesn't care really

I don't in general read lack of talking in a situation like this as a scumtell.

I already have like 5 pages of accusations and counter-accusations to sort out.  I'm definitely not asking anybody to keep rehashing the same case they've already said 2-3 times.  If anyone wants to put a big summary post together, that would be helpful.

More yelling back and forth would not be helpful.

Shraeye, if there is something helpful we can do, let us know.

Some post-game thoughts pre-post-game:

I think this game was fun, regardless of some folks finding it a bit broken.  I like how the game with no built in balance controls worked out.  I mean, mafia may have been underpowered when compared to the WW team (since they had an MA), but that was balanced by having a Seer and the WW-immune Axxle SK.  I do think this is one of our most satisfying town wins to date.