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[silverspawn]

there is no way I claim VT as scum, so you should treat me as an IC.

I think the most likely team is Joseph and ashersky. Ash had his debacle with claiming VT, and Joseph is most likely not to realize that he has to claim a PR.

I like vote: ash

Someone quote this post for the definition of OMGUS.

the funny thing is that it's not OMGUS at all.

[silverspawn]

Also, easy enough to prove if my theory is right or wrong on SS.

SS, paraphrase all of your QT posts.

The whole point of forbidding to quote them is that is that we don't have to put up with this. Asking others to paraphrase them defeats that whole point. So, no.

[ashersky]

I'm referring to this post of yours, which continued to push the idea of Awa and I being scum while simultaneously defusing the original issue:

Ash, I agree that your comments have been blown way out of proportion by Awa (nothing new there). 

But you've gotta admit your original comment was pretty weaksauce.  People can independently reach the same conclusion without them both being scum.
Sure, maybe it microscopically increases the likelihood - which is probably all you were saying anyway - but let's not get hung up on it.

It was mostly a joke, but then it seems to have picked up way more steam than it should have, which makes me think it has something to do with reality.

You misunderstand me.  I am pushing the idea that you are scum.

Like, my original pretense was that agreeing with Awaclus is a scummy action, right?  Like, that doesn't even depend on Awaclus being scum.  The person who does the action (agreeing with Awaclus) is scummy.

So, when you agreed with Awaclus, I said (in other words) "dude that's scummy."  Then there was a bunch of stuff that was distracting and off-base.  Then there seemed to be so much stuff that was distracting and off-base that I wondered if it was on purpose.  Because if it was on purpose, that is also scummy.

You've since claimed PRIC anyway, so it's moot.

[silverspawn]

See ash, the occurrence that requires an explanation is the fact that both scum claimed VT. You accidentally claimed early, and Joseph also claimed early and is the least experienced player. That makes you two, by far, the easiest explanation, and it is why I am currently voting for you.

[ashersky]

Also, easy enough to prove if my theory is right or wrong on SS.

SS, paraphrase all of your QT posts.

The whole point of forbidding to quote them is that is that we don't have to put up with this. Asking others to paraphrase them defeats that whole point. So, no.

Uh no.  Folks paraphrase their role QTs all the time, when claiming.  Paraphrasing is explicitly allowed in standard rules.  Also, I already asked the mod if this was allowed.

What you should be saying is "sorry I can't because I'm scum who didn't take the time to ensure I had stuff ready to paraphrase."

vote: SS.  If he's town, he has a QT full of stuff that he should readily be able to paraphrase.

[ashersky]

See ash, the occurrence that requires an explanation is the fact that both scum claimed VT. You accidentally claimed early, and Joseph also claimed early and is the least experienced player. That makes you two, by far, the easiest explanation, and it is why I am currently voting for you.

Your definition of "early" is one I disagree with.
Your insult of Joseph is also one i disagree with.

[silverspawn]

See ash, the occurrence that requires an explanation is the fact that both scum claimed VT. You accidentally claimed early, and Joseph also claimed early and is the least experienced player. That makes you two, by far, the easiest explanation, and it is why I am currently voting for you.

See ash, the occurrence that requires an explanation is the fact that both scum claimed VT. You accidentally claimed early, and Joseph also claimed early and is the least experienced player. That makes you two, by far, the easiest explanation, and it is why I am currently voting for you.

Your definition of "early" is one I disagree with.
Your insult of Joseph is also one i disagree with.

That is despicable. Now this is an insult.

[silverspawn]

And I will not answer any more of your posts until one of us is lynched. Saying I'm insulting Joseph is more than I have the energy to deal with right now.

[Witherweaver]

So, Ash, paraphrase your QT.

[Roadrunner7671]

"I think that baseball games are like soap operas. If you watch five in a row, you know enough to get hooked. -Jennifer Garner

Vote Count 1.6
Joseph (4): Haddock, WW, 2.7, Iguana
Haddock (1): Awaclus
SS (2): Hydrad, Ashersky
WW (1): Joseph
Ashersky (1): SS

Not Voting (0)

With nine alive it takes five to lynch. D1 will end February 19 at 6:00 PM.

[iguanaiguana]

I'm the least experienced player!

So I agree with silver. The Ash/Joseph pairing is the one that makes the most sense of this botched claiming situation. Joseph's play as scum was actually kind of good. At least in my eyes, it gave him some town cred, and allowed him to act like he was lurking and not paying too much attention to the game. At that time he had no clue we were later going to do a mass claim of role modifiers.

Then when Ash claimed, he probably wasn't thinking that both scum claiming VT was bad because, you know, he was under the influence.

There could be other explanations, but the Joseph vote looks really good.

Also, if this is true, I feel kinda bad for going after silver and WW so hard.

[Haddock]

I'm referring to this post of yours, which continued to push the idea of Awa and I being scum while simultaneously defusing the original issue:

Ash, I agree that your comments have been blown way out of proportion by Awa (nothing new there). 

But you've gotta admit your original comment was pretty weaksauce.  People can independently reach the same conclusion without them both being scum.
Sure, maybe it microscopically increases the likelihood - which is probably all you were saying anyway - but let's not get hung up on it.

It was mostly a joke, but then it seems to have picked up way more steam than it should have, which makes me think it has something to do with reality.

You misunderstand me.  I am pushing the idea that you are scum.

Like, my original pretense was that agreeing with Awaclus is a scummy action, right?  Like, that doesn't even depend on Awaclus being scum.  The person who does the action (agreeing with Awaclus) is scummy.

So, when you agreed with Awaclus, I said (in other words) "dude that's scummy."  Then there was a bunch of stuff that was distracting and off-base.  Then there seemed to be so much stuff that was distracting and off-base that I wondered if it was on purpose.  Because if it was on purpose, that is also scummy.

You've since claimed PRIC anyway, so it's moot.

2 things:
1) I wasn't producing any of the distracting off-base stuff.  I didn't agree with you that agreeing with Awa was automatically scummy (and didn't get that it was a joke), and I didn't like that I was being implicated for no good reason.  But largely I thought it best left alone, at the time.

2) OK, so you were pushing the idea that I was scum.  That's kind of my point.  Pushing me-being-scummy (Awa, not Awa, whatever) on the back of something as weak as that looks bad to me, and should now look bad to everyone, since I'm an IC.

[iguanaiguana]

"I think that baseball games are like soap operas. If you watch five in a row, you know enough to get hooked. -Jennifer Garner

Vote Count 1.6
Joseph (4): Haddock, WW, 2.7, Iguana
Haddock (1): Awaclus
SS (2): Hydrad, Ashersky
WW (1): Joseph
Ashersky (1): SS

Not Voting (0)

With nine alive it takes five to lynch. D1 will end February 19 at 6:00 PM.

RR, you should do the L-1 thing.

[Roadrunner7671]

"I think that baseball games are like soap operas. If you watch five in a row, you know enough to get hooked. -Jennifer Garner

Vote Count 1.6
Joseph (4): Haddock, WW, 2.7, Iguana
Haddock (1): Awaclus
SS (2): Hydrad, Ashersky
WW (1): Joseph
Ashersky (1): SS

Not Voting (0)

With nine alive it takes five to lynch. D1 will end February 19 at 6:00 PM.

RR, you should do the L-1 thing.

Joseph is at L-1.

[iguanaiguana]

Noice!!!

This is why I hammer all RR co-mods.

[Awaclus]

The whole point of forbidding to quote them is that is that we don't have to put up with this. Asking others to paraphrase them defeats that whole point. So, no.

No, the whole point of forbidding to quote them is that we don't have to put up with having 20938475029384705293875092384759387523034 different fake QTs. Now you just have to fabricate one QT on spot, which is challenging, but not impossible.

[iguanaiguana]

This is the gist of my QT:

I say something along the lines of "confirm" (I can't put the / right there or it would be quoting).

Then I say "HeLlZ yEaH, i'M tOwN1"

(capitalization changed to make it a paraphrase)

[ashersky]

So, Ash, paraphrase your QT.

Okay.  Skipping mod interaction, my posts in order:

1 -- I made a post about the plan, which I then posted in the thread.
2 -- I wrote a post about how I thought it's good most people agreed with my plan.
3 -- another post about most people agreeing being good
4 -- then a post about being worried so many people agreed, so maybe there's scum in there?
5 -- posted that I am actually really busy IRL, and wonder if people say anything about my "lurking"
6 -- stated that I actually think the early VT claim from Joseph is towny, but will probably act opposite in thread for reactions/pressure
7 -- pointed out that WW is scummy this game but no one seems to be picking up on it, and that is generally a scum!tell for WW
8 -- I mention that I keep mixing up Joseph and iguana this game
9 -- I say that Awaclus is frustrating
10 -- I think maybe Awaclus was confused thinking I meant agreeing with Awaclus [about this thing in this game] is scummy when I actually meant agreeing at all is scummy.
11 to 13 -- nonsense (I wish I could quote 13...muons!)
14 -- thoughts on the possible worst case scenarios if we just lynch, basically the worst case I posted here for Hydrad's power

[ashersky]

Also, vote: Joseph because I'm sick of fake-over-dramatic-lying-scum SS.

If I'm Joseph's partner, given I have laid out for you all (among others, like 2.7) just how unlikely a scum win is, and especially if one scum is dead, do I bus here?

[ashersky]

Also, feel free to lodge an official complaint with the mod that I'm playing against my wincon, as I don't feel that Joseph is the scummiest of the VT claims at all.

I think Joseph was town, but it really doesn't matter.  We literally win just by lynching all the VTs.  Hydrad ensures this happens just by shooting a VT we don't lynch.

[Witherweaver]

That's hammeR?

[ashersky]

And why is Jennifer Garner of all people quoted in that vote count?

[ashersky]

That's hammeR?

Supposedly.

[ashersky]

I'd say towniest to scummiest of remaining VTs:

Awaclus > WW > SS

Not that anyone's reads matter.  We've won this game.

[Haddock]

That's hammeR?

"I think that baseball games are like soap operas. If you watch five in a row, you know enough to get hooked. -Jennifer Garner

Vote Count 1.6
Joseph (4): Haddock, WW, 2.7, Iguana
Haddock (1): Awaclus
SS (2): Hydrad, Ashersky
WW (1): Joseph
Ashersky (1): SS

Not Voting (0)

With nine alive it takes five to lynch. D1 will end February 19 at 6:00 PM.

RR, you should do the L-1 thing.

Joseph is at L-1.

Also, vote: Joseph

Yeah, I'd say so.