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Author Topic: M134: Conference Call Mafia V 2.0 - Game Over - Skum Wins!  (Read 118219 times)

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Re: M134: Conference Call Mafia V 2.0 - Day 2!
« Reply #700 on: March 04, 2021, 01:03:01 pm »

It feels like Didds and Dylan are flying well below the radar.

I am much more present than Dylan!

Agreed, but I don't see many people having opinions about you or asking you questions, and I'm not really sure what your reads are.
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Re: M134: Conference Call Mafia V 2.0 - Day 2!
« Reply #701 on: March 04, 2021, 01:19:32 pm »

True enough.

Most of the day I’ve been trying to figure out what/why is going on with Ash, but I’ve decided to give up on that.

For me, MiX, Joth, and Space are the most town, followed closely by faust.
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Re: M134: Conference Call Mafia V 2.0 - Day 2!
« Reply #702 on: March 04, 2021, 01:58:51 pm »

Really sorry about the low activity today. This week has been a bit higher pressure with work than normal and I have a pretty important deadline Monday, so I haven't had time to do anything more than just skim and try to keep up. I'll try to make sense of the ash mix thing when I get off work this evening.
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Re: M134: Conference Call Mafia V 2.0 - Day 2!
« Reply #703 on: March 04, 2021, 02:50:31 pm »

Vote Count 2.6:

gkrieg (3): faust, WestCoastDidds, Joth
faust (2): SpaceAnenome, Ashersky
Ashersky (2): MiX, EFHW
MiX (1): Dylan32
EFHW (1): gkrieg
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With 9 alive, it takes 5 to Exile.
Day 2 ends Saturday, March 6th at 5:55pm Forum Time.
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Re: M134: Conference Call Mafia V 2.0 - Day 2!
« Reply #704 on: March 04, 2021, 04:05:48 pm »

question for anyone on gkrieg, ash, or faust. If you had to leave your wagon for one of the others, which one would you choose?

I'd choose to go back to ash.
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Re: M134: Conference Call Mafia V 2.0 - Day 2!
« Reply #705 on: March 04, 2021, 04:19:05 pm »


Of those three, Ash
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Re: M134: Conference Call Mafia V 2.0 - Day 2!
« Reply #706 on: March 04, 2021, 07:29:49 pm »

question for anyone on gkrieg, ash, or faust. If you had to leave your wagon for one of the others, which one would you choose?

I'd choose to go back to ash.

You know I'd go to any wagon to ensure an exile by day's end.  Or that I'd Thor any E-1 presented to me.
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Re: M134: Conference Call Mafia V 2.0 - Day 2!
« Reply #707 on: March 04, 2021, 07:42:09 pm »

Interesting. gkrieg seems to know for a fact that there's a traitor and scum didn't choose the option to recruit. scumslip!

I don't understand these arguments being made about knowing the traitor exists in this setup.  I have seen multiple posts arguing that knowing of the existence of a traitor or not is somehow indicative of alignment.

In the game setup post, it says there is a traitor.  That means every player should know this.  I assume, based on the all town gets VT PMs rule, that one player received a traitor PM in "pre-game."

AFTER a traitor was assigned, but before anything else happens, the mafia have the option to recruit said traitor, who exists.  The "power" name says "Recruit Traitor as Mafia Goon" so I assume the QT is replaced or changed to say Goon instead of Traitor.  Only the three of them can know this, if it even happened.

In the meantime, the rest of town don't know.  It is completely and utterly understandable that any town player would just continue to use "traitor" as the moniker for the third, not-originally-assigned-to-the-mafia-QT player.

To me, the recruited traitor is just that, a recruited traitor, and as such, still "the traitor" in my mind.  It's easier than thinking "I wonder if faust is one of the two original mafia players from pre-game or if they were the traitor and/or the recruited traitor."  Man, that's a long and ridiculous way to have to type things out just to avoid random slip arguments.

Also, isn't it possible mcmc was recruited traitor who then got the JOAT power?  The setup says traitors can get powers if recruited.  So then the remaining two mafia WOULD be the original two in their QT.  So the traitor argument just seems like a huge waste of time at best and a misdirect at worst absent evidence that it matters.
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Re: M134: Conference Call Mafia V 2.0 - Day 2!
« Reply #708 on: March 04, 2021, 07:44:55 pm »

faust (2): SpaceAnenome, Ashersky
Ashersky (2): Joth, MiX
gkrieg (1): faust
MiX (1): Dylan32
EFHW (1): WestCoastDidds
Not Voting (2): EFHW, gkrieg

Copied the latest VC here for reference.

The way I see it, the breakdowns we are discussing here are:

1. faust vs. Space vs. Gkrieg
2. Dylan vs. WCD vs. EFHW

Everyone else is just off the table D2 for me for various reasons.  I'll post on these in a bit.

Is this because you think that it is unlikely that scum are going at each other right now?

I'm honestly not sure what mafia is doing here.

These two grouping just seem like the way to split the players I think are worth exiling today.  Group #1 are "active" and "contributing" as compared to group #2, and could be the "active mafia pushing town in a certain direction" archetype.  Group #2 would have the "sailing along while town destroys itself" archetype in it.
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Re: M134: Conference Call Mafia V 2.0 - Day 2!
« Reply #709 on: March 04, 2021, 07:45:54 pm »

Also, apologies to all for my lack of activity.  On top of a busy schedule, I had to take my dog to the vet and he's currently in ICU.  We go every day to see him and talk to the doctor about chances of survival and courses of action to take.
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Re: M134: Conference Call Mafia V 2.0 - Day 2!
« Reply #710 on: March 04, 2021, 09:17:41 pm »

Oh, Ash! I’m so sorry about your dog. That is awful and you must be a wreck. All good thoughts for you and yours.
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Re: M134: Conference Call Mafia V 2.0 - Day 2!
« Reply #711 on: March 04, 2021, 09:55:35 pm »

question for anyone on gkrieg, ash, or faust. If you had to leave your wagon for one of the others, which one would you choose?

I'd choose to go back to ash.

I would vote gkrieg.
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Re: M134: Conference Call Mafia V 2.0 - Day 2!
« Reply #712 on: March 05, 2021, 12:33:50 am »

Mobile posting before bed. First,

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My exile pool for today is probably gkrieg, EFHW, Didds, and Ash, in no order. I tend to agree with joth that it’s probably best to not reward lying town, but I agree with Faust that Ash is particularly likely to do it as town, though I’m not sure it actually makes him town here. There’s probably some value to shooting outside that pair today, so I would probably vote gkrieg right now but that would be e-1 and Ash isn’t on that wagon, so the hammer would follow.
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Re: M134: Conference Call Mafia V 2.0 - Day 2!
« Reply #713 on: March 05, 2021, 01:02:22 am »

question for anyone on gkrieg, ash, or faust. If you had to leave your wagon for one of the others, which one would you choose?

I'd choose to go back to ash.
I would not vote for myself! Surprising twist of events, I know.
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Re: M134: Conference Call Mafia V 2.0 - Day 2!
« Reply #714 on: March 05, 2021, 06:09:23 am »

Update: I will be LA I think at least the rest of the weekend.  Our dog passed away, sadly.  I'll be handling arrangements and such.

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If I can get on before the deadline, I'll try, but don't expect me.  Sorry I'm not so helpful from now until day's end.
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Re: M134: Conference Call Mafia V 2.0 - Day 2!
« Reply #715 on: March 05, 2021, 08:27:17 am »

I’m so sorry, Ashersky. There’s nothing not awful about losing a friend. Safe travels.
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Re: M134: Conference Call Mafia V 2.0 - Day 2!
« Reply #716 on: March 05, 2021, 08:30:19 am »

After reading some more of the talk today, I’m feeling better about voting for gkrieg and better about not voting for ashes. So, new answer Joth... I don’t think I’d switch to either of the other choices.
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Re: M134: Conference Call Mafia V 2.0 - Day 2!
« Reply #717 on: March 05, 2021, 02:57:57 pm »

Holy lack of content, Batman! What are y’all up to?

Deadline is tomorrow evening. Maybe we should, uhm, decide?
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Re: M134: Conference Call Mafia V 2.0 - Day 2!
« Reply #718 on: March 05, 2021, 03:01:33 pm »

Holy lack of content, Batman! What are y’all up to?

Deadline is tomorrow evening. Maybe we should, uhm, decide?

Hi Didds.

I still prefer Ash.

I'll take over ash's hammering business for the rest of today.
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Re: M134: Conference Call Mafia V 2.0 - Day 2!
« Reply #719 on: March 05, 2021, 04:37:58 pm »

I will vote ash out of self-preservation
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Re: M134: Conference Call Mafia V 2.0 - Day 2!
« Reply #720 on: March 05, 2021, 04:39:24 pm »

faust (2): SpaceAnenome, Ashersky
Ashersky (2): Joth, MiX
gkrieg (1): faust
MiX (1): Dylan32
EFHW (1): WestCoastDidds
Not Voting (2): EFHW, gkrieg

Copied the latest VC here for reference.

The way I see it, the breakdowns we are discussing here are:

1. faust vs. Space vs. Gkrieg
2. Dylan vs. WCD vs. EFHW

Everyone else is just off the table D2 for me for various reasons.  I'll post on these in a bit.

Is this because you think that it is unlikely that scum are going at each other right now?

I'm honestly not sure what mafia is doing here.

These two grouping just seem like the way to split the players I think are worth exiling today.  Group #1 are "active" and "contributing" as compared to group #2, and could be the "active mafia pushing town in a certain direction" archetype.  Group #2 would have the "sailing along while town destroys itself" archetype in it.

I would guess that scum are probably in the second group, judging on how I think this day is going.
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Re: M134: Conference Call Mafia V 2.0 - Day 2!
« Reply #721 on: March 05, 2021, 04:40:02 pm »

Update: I will be LA I think at least the rest of the weekend.  Our dog passed away, sadly.  I'll be handling arrangements and such.

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If I can get on before the deadline, I'll try, but don't expect me.  Sorry I'm not so helpful from now until day's end.

Super sorry to hear that. That really sucks.
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Re: M134: Conference Call Mafia V 2.0 - Day 2!
« Reply #722 on: March 05, 2021, 04:41:03 pm »

After reading some more of the talk today, I’m feeling better about voting for gkrieg and better about not voting for ashes. So, new answer Joth... I don’t think I’d switch to either of the other choices.

What swayed you toward voting for me?
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Re: M134: Conference Call Mafia V 2.0 - Day 2!
« Reply #723 on: March 05, 2021, 04:41:57 pm »

joth's breakdown into two groups is almost completely arbitrary. gkrieg reinforcing it feels scummy.
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Re: M134: Conference Call Mafia V 2.0 - Day 2!
« Reply #724 on: March 05, 2021, 04:44:21 pm »

question for anyone on gkrieg, ash, or faust. If you had to leave your wagon for one of the others, which one would you choose?

I'd choose to go back to ash.

I think this post is subtly making people decide to exile only from these three people, which makes me think ash and faust are town with me and that scum is trying to get town to consolidate onto use three. Especially with how people seem to be content on only exiling out of us three.

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