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[mcmcsalot]

So I have theories of what mafia would've picked. They either block town getting the PR or get it themselves.

I'll post more thoughts when I'm at a computer.

vote: galzria for something

I have theories that go against that.
vote: gkrieg

[2.71828.....]

Hi. I should have been mafia in this game given my hatred of cats. But alas, apparently town is on the side of evil this time.

vote: twm for having horrible life preferences and obviously being scum. As a proud cat papa us cat lovers are definitely town.

List of reasons cats are lame:

1. They make me sneeze
2. They make my eyes itch
3. They always want to rub up on me
4. They leave cat fur all over my clothes
5. They poop in my garden. Seriously. They take a shit in my garden. Any animal that does that is dead to me. DEAD!

They are basically pure evil.

This is a reason why allergies are bad.  Well, until #5. 

[2.71828.....]

So, idea. Everyone claims two roles, out of the possible eight, they didn't pick. Shouldn't give mafia too much info, but might limit what they can fake claim later. Two is arbitrary. Could be another number. Thoughts?

I like the effort at a plan, but I think we should just completely mass claim or go about today with the normal randomness of any other D1.

So vote: mcmc

[The_Wine_Merchant]

Yeah. I didn't fully understand that mafia could have potentially obtained roles. I thought it was likely that only town could bid on roles. Focused more on the "unless specifically stated" instead of the "of any alignment" part so my plan might not be as of much utility if mafia already could have one of the 8 roles.

[Calamitas]

I don't see why we should do a massclaim at all.
The only benefit I see (assuming everyone gets to pick, speculating about the exceptions doesn't make too much sense) is that being a PR is weak evidence in favor of being scum. Besides from that (which is close to zero utility) we gain basically nothing.

[The_Wine_Merchant]

So now that it looks like (from my understanding) mafia would have been able to go for roles, what roles would we have expected mafia to take. I guess this is what gkrieg was saying he was going to get at, but seems like a good topic to start:

I would expect them to try for these roles:

NC JK - keep out of town's hands and it is useful for mafia as well if mass claim comes up
1-shot Doublevoter - good for mylo situtations
2-shot Surgeon - probably just to keep out of town's hands


Ones that seem somewhat less appealing to scum:

Desperate Vig - one for one trade for scum is bad.
Loyal Watcher - can only target players of your faction for it to work. Not great for mafia utility, could even end up being an indicator that mafia is lying with it if they said they watched town and saw nothing when town was targeted by another PR
Suicidal dayvig - probably only useful for mafia at mylo; again one for one trade is bad, but better than desperate vig I guess? Although maybe still bad a mylo as they would die at same time? So I guess bad for mafia.

Faith Healer and Tracker are both a bit meh for scum's perspective, but not bad for them to have.

If I were scum I would have probably gone for the Surgeon or JK.

[gkrieg13]

Ya so I really doubt scum didn't go for the JK. That was the first role I noticed. Good for them, and bad if they don't get it.

I also think double voter was bid on by them.

I disagree about the surgeon. It doesn't seem very good to go for, but I guess that is just me.

[J Reggie]

Do we think there are PRs other than the ones people chose? I personally think that's reasonable to assume.

[J Reggie]

Dayvig is actually pretty good for a scum about to get lynched.

[The_Wine_Merchant]

Do we think there are PRs other than the ones people chose? I personally think that's reasonable to assume.

Think so, but I am not assuming so. As in I wouldn't be surprised, but I am not playing the game based off that until further evidence presents itself.

[Dylan32]

/bump new thread. I'll be back tomorrow. Was actually pretty LA yesterday and today. Hopefully I'll come back and RVS will be gone.

[faust]

I think we established that claiming doesn't get us anything? Good, so stop claiming, even softclaiming stuff.

[faust]

I don't particularly like the way TWM opened this game, but the really scummy one is Robz here.

Vote: Robz

[faust]

Look, he has three posts:

So, closed setups, always a gamble. We don't know how many Mafia, do we? SK? Werewolves?

The first: SK hunting.

It could also help scum narrow down what town has. Although, in all honest, the PRs don't seem that great. I also expect tons and tons of duplication.

Massclaim right away? That would really limit scum claims down the road...

The second: rolefishing

vote: Robz because I cat!

Man, it's been so long since I've typed that.

I'm at work until this evening. Super excited about this game though!

OMG you totally catslipped (catnipped?). So so great to play a game with you! Sucks to not have our own personal QT though, what's with that.

The third: buddying

I rest my case.

[The_Wine_Merchant]

Vote: faust

[Galzria]

vote: TWM

[2.71828.....]

Vote: faust

This is a strange vote

TWM, what do you not like about faust's little case? You can hardly do better at this stage of the game.

[The_Wine_Merchant]

Vote: faust

This is a strange vote

TWM, what do you not like about faust's little case? You can hardly do better at this stage of the game.

No opinion on the Robz vote. I didn't like how he stated vague suspicion on me and then left the door open for others (maybe townies or scum buddies) to come behind and point out the specifics. Felt like trying to start something, but not wanting to get hands dirty. But he did with Robz, so maybe my point is invalid anyways. But good enough for this stage of the game.

[The_Wine_Merchant]

He being faust.

[gkrieg13]

vote: Robz

[2.71828.....]

Vote: faust

This is a strange vote

TWM, what do you not like about faust's little case? You can hardly do better at this stage of the game.

No opinion on the Robz vote. I didn't like how he stated vague suspicion on me and then left the door open for others (maybe townies or scum buddies) to come behind and point out the specifics. Felt like trying to start something, but not wanting to get hands dirty. But he did with Robz, so maybe my point is invalid anyways. But good enough for this stage of the game.

So it's an OMGUS vote. For hedging on you. Good enough I guess

[The_Wine_Merchant]

Vote: faust

This is a strange vote

TWM, what do you not like about faust's little case? You can hardly do better at this stage of the game.

No opinion on the Robz vote. I didn't like how he stated vague suspicion on me and then left the door open for others (maybe townies or scum buddies) to come behind and point out the specifics. Felt like trying to start something, but not wanting to get hands dirty. But he did with Robz, so maybe my point is invalid anyways. But good enough for this stage of the game.

So it's an OMGUS vote. For hedging on you. Good enough I guess

I don't think that is what it is. I think I would have called it out if what he had done to on anyone if I had noticed it, but I am more likely to notice it when it involves me.

[AndrewisFTTW]

I'm trying to think of how a massclaim now would be bad for scum later as I think Robz pointed out, but I don't see how.

[schadd]

Vote Count 1.1



The_Wine_Merchant (2): J Reggie, Galzria
gkrieg13 (1): mcmcsalot
mcmcsalot (1): 2.71828...
Robz888 (2): faust, gkrieg13
faust (1): The_Wine_Merchant

Not voting (6): Calamitas, Robz888, Dylan32, AndrewisFTTW, Witherweaver, pingpongsam

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Day 1 ends Saturday, June 17 at 3:00pm forum time.

[Witherweaver]

Oh, I didn't know this game started.

Vote: The Wine Merchant because wagons make the world go 'round.