You say it's hard for anyone to understand their emotions, therefore you all know exactly what's going on in my head emotionally because it's hard for me to do it. That's completely ridiculous. I'd think that after two years (wait, has it been three already? We're close) of watching my videos and complaining about how "emotional" I am, maybe people would just realize that that's how I speak and that's part of who I am. Am I not in control of my emotions? I can think of two times where I've actually lost control of my emotions on anything related to you all in three years, and what did I do? I turned off the video and stopped streaming, I didn't write a post about it.
Very few of you have ever met me IRL, very few of you have directly interacted with me over the inernet. How can you possibly say you know my emotions better than I do? Like, that's super-condescending. We're all different people.
That really, really wasn't what I was saying at all. The part of my post discussing emotions was pretty broad and general, and merely used some things you've done as a jumping off point for how we all could be emotionally charged, and how it can inform our perceptions of others and our logical conclusions without conscious awareness. I'm certainly not saying anything applies to you and nobody else; I thought the examples where I talked about people that weren't you (SCSN, me, etc) would make that more clear. I was trying to de-escalate by pointing out the different perspectives we're all coming from and why there can be so much tension over what's ultimately our preferences on how a card game simulator should look and feel. I was also trying to defend SCSN, who whole I don't see eye to eye on with a lot of things, honestly didn't seem like they were trying to antagonize you in this particular thread, just explaining himself and repeatedly offering to put it behind him.
My post, in summary:
> I think iguana was talking about your emotions due to the obvious passion and energy you put into your posts here along with defensiveness.
> We all have an emotional stake in all of this and it will always influence all of our actions, that's how I think humans are.
> SCSN wasn't really being a huge dick in this thread
> David's an agent and representative of MF and his actions reflect on the organization.
> David made a lot of great posts and a good faith effort, and he got way too much flak for it, but he was also sometimes condescending.
> Not all animations are equal.
I wrote the post at like 6:30 AM and that probably influenced my wording choice and stuff, so I probably didn't communicate my intentions well. I truly am sorry for that, I didn't intend to pick on you. I have a lot of respect for you and your streams; our F.DS Championship match was some of the best matches I've played all year, I really don't mean malice here.
3) Despite the fact that there has been unwarranted hostility towards Making Fun on these forums, there has also been some pretty nasty behavior back on the part of Making Fun toward us, particularly from DavidtheDavid.
So isn't David not actually an employee of MF? Didn't I hear that somewhere? In any case, I don't read what he's saying as condescending. I'm not sure how you can, but maybe you can. OK. I don't know what to say to you.
To be perfectly honest, "David isn't an MF employee" might be one of the bigger cognitive backflips I've heard anyone make to defend MF.
Did you see me defending anyone with that statement? Like, actually read what I'm saying and don't put words in my mouth.
>"So isn't David not actually an employee of MF?"
>"I don't read what he's saying as condescending. I'm not sure how you can..."
>"I don't know what to say to you"
My interpretation of these statements is that you're making two implicit points. 1 is that David by not being an employee of MF, isn't acting as their representative and we can't judge the company by their actions. 2 is that you didn't think David was being condescending and that you view interpretations that see him that way as ridiculous / unfounded. I'm not sure why you brought up that you didn't think he was being condescending and that you didn't understand how others could see him as condescending, if you weren't saying that. I'm really confused here, I'm not sure what you were trying to get across, if you weren't defending David's actions or MF as a company.
If it feels like I'm being hard on you it's because both of your responses to my posts are things that are particularly grating to me, where you're misrepresenting what I say and who I am like you know better than I do what I mean. What did I do about it? I went to sleep so I wouldn't be emotional about it.
I don't really mean to be critcial of healthy emotional responses to stress, but I mean, I made that post at like 7 AM dude. You replied about 45 minutes later. I don't think you went to bed.
Never did I say that other people wouldn't find it condescending or not to their liking. People can think that if they want to, but I don't. Maybe this is because of the several PMs we've exchanged, maybe that helps, I dunno? The whole point of this thread is to appeal to some people who are speaking out of anger and try to get them to think critically about what they're saying. There are valid criticisms of MF to be had, I don't see why we have to resort to invalid ones that make us look like jerks and don't accomplish anything. There's plenty to whine about constructively.
Honestly, I have to agree with your general point here - whining isn't constructive, doing stuff is. I really respect how you made a video highlighting the difficult to describe animation problem and sent it to MF for review. Clearly nobody had done that before, and the problem wasn't well understood before you did, and you directly led to fixing it. That's the kind of approach I hope people do more. (And I do realize that beta testers have given detailed, long descriptions of complaints and features that have been ignored before, I'm not trying to knock them or legitimize their frustration either.)
What does confuse me here, is the juxtaposition between "never did I say other people wouldn't find it condescending" and "we don't have to resort to invalid criticisims" - the implication here is that you think the criticisms of David's condescension / temperament aren't valid. What are you saying isn't valid, if not that?
The next paragraph came off a little angry so I think I should be done typing now. Better not type anything that people could use to tell me I'm being too emotional.
I never said anything about you being too emotional. I even said your feelings were valid (well, not invalid and not incorrect). I'm just talking about how it informs our actions, even when we're not obviously overcome by emotions. I'm beginning to think you weren't just talking to me and that maybe I'm being a bit shitty by assuming it was 100% directed at me.