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[Galzria]

I'm not steadfastly defending him. I am completely lost in this game. If we want to kill him, that's fine. I suspect the outcome is going to be fairly random, since we can't figure out the powers.

And then you distance.

You know what, I'm going to VOTE: GALZRIA, because he didn't follow directions, and that's what my instinct is, and this is going to turn out randomly anyway.

Complete chainsaw defense.

zxcvbn2 is Mafia, and Robz is his partner.

[O]

Chainsaw defense is a scum tell IFF the lynched person is mafia.

[Galzria]

Chainsaw Defense:

 http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Chainsaw_Defense_(old)

[Robz888]

Then kill me, and find out.

[O]

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Tarhalindur_Standard_Tells#Chainsaw_Defense_.28Tarhalindur_Version.29

I did #5 earlier as CF see eagerly pointed out

[Robz888]

You should know, Galzria, that I would never defend a fellow scum.

[O]

You should know, Galzria, that I would never defend a fellow scum.

>implying he uses same strategy every game
>possible chainsaw defense
>"go ahead, vote for me"

vote:Robz

[Galzria]

Chainsaw defense is a scum tell IFF the lynched person is mafia.

True, but I've played with Robz as Mafia, and as town. He is using weak to borderline faulty logic Re: zxcvbn2, and being completely oblivious to the GOOD reasons posted. His vote screams "don't look there", and his logic on me, while a decent case, would not alter the scumminess of zxcvbn2's list scumtell.

This play is the "grasping at straw-man" arguments of a scum Robz, not a town.

[Galzria]

Don't split the vote O. It makes it harder for Yuma/Frisk to cleanly understand what's going on. Robz's partner got called out on a scumtell,, and he's trying to head it off before it goes anywhere. He's being RIDICULOUSLY defensive and erratic.

Lynch the better odds target, Zxcvbn2, then lynch Robz when he flips Mafia.

[O]

But I'm pretty convinced that Robz is scum even if Z isn't, while I'm less convinced about the reverse.

[Robz888]

The old one, two.

[Galzria]

But I'm pretty convinced that Robz is scum even if Z isn't, while I'm less convinced about the reverse.

Well, after that explosion by Robz, I'm equally convinced. I'll let Frisk and Yuma weigh in then, and be happy whichever way they decide.

[O]

The old one, two.

Robz proposes a O-Galz scum alliance

How original.

Honestly this is a pretty ugly OMGUS

[Robz888]

I proposed nothing. I have no idea who is mafia. Except I don't think Z is, and Galzria maybe.

[Galzria]

Pretty much, O. He hasn't actually refuted or even tried to refute, any of the logical reasons presented. All he's done is come out swinging at the people who made the cases to begin with. There's no logic to his posts. It's all defense/attack - and the votes/FOS weren't even on him.

[Robz888]

Pretty much, O. He hasn't actually refuted or even tried to refute, any of the logical reasons presented. All he's done is come out swinging at the people who made the cases to begin with. There's no logic to his posts. It's all defense/attack - and the votes/FOS weren't even on him.

Dunno that I am swinging, or defending, or attacking...

[O]

I proposed nothing. I have no idea who is mafia. Except I don't think Z is, and Galzria maybe.

The old one, two.

ITT: Robz tries to play like Jo/O/Pops/Morgrim and fails pretty badly

[Galzria]

Do me a favor Robz, or hell, any of you:

Walk me through a scenario where, as Galzria = Mafia, it would make sense to be the FIRST claim on target after N1, claiming a name of somebody who died, and somebody I was not paired up with on either list - When I COULD'VE just claimed to have targeted Robz (whom I WAS paired with and lived).

[Robz888]

I proposed nothing. I have no idea who is mafia. Except I don't think Z is, and Galzria maybe.

The old one, two.

ITT: Robz tries to play like Jo/O/Pops/Morgrim and fails pretty badly

And we all know Morgrim was mafia.

[Galzria]

Do me a favor Robz, or hell, any of you:

Walk me through a scenario where, as Galzria = Mafia, it would make sense to be the FIRST claim on target after N1, claiming a name of somebody who died, and somebody I was not paired up with on either list - When I COULD'VE just claimed to have targeted Robz (whom I WAS paired with and lived).

My case for zxcvbn2 isn't foolproof. There are realistically 2 roles outside of Familiar he could be (not counting Stoned Philosopher since that requires another player interacting with those two). Those odds alone are much greater than the dethy method provides on anybody else.

And the read on comparing the lists (something Robz USUALLY loves to do) is about the best regular mafia read I've seen in some time.

Trying to paint this vote as RVS is ignoring BOTH of the above. This vote won't get to 100% certainty, but where else are your odds going to be better?

[Robz888]

And how am I playing like them? I don't see Z as mafia. I don't really see Galzria. It's more of a feeling than anything else.

[jotheonah]

The Chancellor arrives back at around 10 in the morning. He sees the diagrams covering the dirt floor, the three dead bodies.
"I uh... I brought some canapes," he says. "Also, the Witch was not very cooperative. In fact, she turned me into a newt."
Now it was the town's turn to stare at the Chancellor.
"Well, I got better."

Vote Count

zxvcbn2[1] - Galzria
Galzria[1] - Robz888
Robz888[1] - O

not voting - yuma, Captain_Frisk, zxvcbn2

With 6 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

[Captain_Frisk]

What is our deadline?

[jotheonah]

Two week deadlines. So, not for ages, basically. I will give an exact date when I'm not rushing off to work.

[Captain_Frisk]

All right guys a couple of points:

1 - It is impossible to lynch scum without me - or mafia bussing eachother.  Everyone who is an apothecary (go check your PMs) can make the same statement.
2 - Before I vote - I want to make sure we have the night plan in effect.
2a - Plan #1 - What are we doing if we lynch mafia (powers / how to target?)
2b - Plan #2 - What are we doing if we've lynched town (we have to use powers here)

I will not cast any vote that is not a hammer - as I am not confident of any reads at this point and I tend to think that voting is dangerous as per my previous post.

Remember that Mafia can deduce our powers - they will probably know which ones of us have the dangerous powers - so pre-announcing may be dangerous - but without co-ordination - we're going to be in trouble.