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[Hydrad]

Hydrad: How RVSy was this vote really?  Can you elaborate on your thoughts at the time you made it?

Vote: WW

because I want to see him lynched day 1 once.

And what do you think of Teproc's response to it?

At the time it was pretty RVSy but its kinda turned into a real vote (now I'm scum because I said that right)

Then for teprocs response I guess I agreed with it. We were pretty much out of RVS and with my WW vote there I could have turned the game back into RVS and just hurt us so I think his point was valid.

Cool.  Any particular reason you wanted to move off Seprix at that time?

That was even more RVSy then WW. the seprix vote was pretty much just pick a random person to vote kinda vote. WW is I'm actually curious what happens if he gets pressure day 1 kinda vote.

[UmbrageOfSnow]

One more thing, Hydrad.  Do you have any thoughts either way about Mail-mi's unvoting you?

[skip wooznum]

@Skip: If you had to, gun to your head, vote for one of me, Seprix, and Mail-mi right now, who would you vote for and why?

can you explain the point of this question? It stood out upon reread. Like trying to give the appearance of scumhunting/asking serious questions.

[UmbrageOfSnow]

@Skip: If you had to, gun to your head, vote for one of me, Seprix, and Mail-mi right now, who would you vote for and why?

can you explain the point of this question? It stood out upon reread. Like trying to give the appearance of scumhunting/asking serious questions.

I wanted to ask something specific of someone I didn't have any read on, picked you because you were online and talking with me and Seprix.  Seprix and I were both voting for each other and had had an exchange that seemed like it could generate some reads, and you'd voted for chairs like 1 minute after he voted for Mail-mi.

It was kind of a random question, but it got something out of you, which was the purpose.

Why does that question stand out to you specifically?

[Hydrad]

One more thing, Hydrad.  Do you have any thoughts either way about Mail-mi's unvoting you?

Hmm usually when people say something like that it means they think I'm scummy but might not vote me since I seem to have made a meta of being scummy even when I'm town. So I guess thats what I took that unvote as.

[skip wooznum]

@Skip: If you had to, gun to your head, vote for one of me, Seprix, and Mail-mi right now, who would you vote for and why?

can you explain the point of this question? It stood out upon reread. Like trying to give the appearance of scumhunting/asking serious questions.

I wanted to ask something specific of someone I didn't have any read on, picked you because you were online and talking with me and Seprix.  Seprix and I were both voting for each other and had had an exchange that seemed like it could generate some reads, and you'd voted for chairs like 1 minute after he voted for Mail-mi.

It was kind of a random question, but it got something out of you, which was the purpose.

Why does that question stand out to you specifically?

I dont see how it would help you determine much of anything from whatever my answer might be. It's asking a question for the sake of not wanting to look like you're not asking questions. What did it get out of me?

[UmbrageOfSnow]

@Skip: If you had to, gun to your head, vote for one of me, Seprix, and Mail-mi right now, who would you vote for and why?

can you explain the point of this question? It stood out upon reread. Like trying to give the appearance of scumhunting/asking serious questions.

I wanted to ask something specific of someone I didn't have any read on, picked you because you were online and talking with me and Seprix.  Seprix and I were both voting for each other and had had an exchange that seemed like it could generate some reads, and you'd voted for chairs like 1 minute after he voted for Mail-mi.

It was kind of a random question, but it got something out of you, which was the purpose.

Why does that question stand out to you specifically?

I dont see how it would help you determine much of anything from whatever my answer might be. It's asking a question for the sake of not wanting to look like you're not asking questions. What did it get out of me?

Well some of it's for later, the reason I included Mail-mi in there is a combo of liking 3 options in a list and the off chance that if one of you flipped scum and we got to analyzing interactions with the other, having some extra response might help paint a picture.  (Or be meaningless, but hey, it's a good enough reason for the 3rd options in a random question.)

I wanted to know if you made a read on me or Seprix (I took it that you thought we were both towny) and I also wanted to know how much attention your were paying or seeing what sort of things you were looking for to see if I could get some idea about your mindset.

Your answer was pretty non-committal, but I didn't know if that would be the case when I asked it.  It wasn't a question meant as part of building a case on you or anything.

[UmbrageOfSnow]

It's asking a question for the sake of not wanting to look like you're not asking questions. What did it get out of me?

Do you think I looked like I wasn't participating at that point in the game?

[skip wooznum]

It's asking a question for the sake of not wanting to look like you're not asking questions. What did it get out of me?

Do you think I looked like I wasn't participating at that point in the game?

I think you're possibly the type of person who may feel like you're not participating enough if you know you're really scum.

[skip wooznum]

So to boil down your explanation: you wanted to see what I thought of you and seprix?

[UmbrageOfSnow]

So to boil down your explanation: you wanted to see what I thought of you and seprix?

Not really.  I mean that's what I was really asking but I asked because I wanted to get a read on you and see what your thought process was like, and me and Seprix had had the most solid interaction at that point.

[skip wooznum]

So to boil down your explanation: you wanted to see what I thought of you and seprix?

Not really.  I mean that's what I was really asking but I asked because I wanted to get a read on you and see what your thought process was like, and me and Seprix had had the most solid interaction at that point.

alright, I guess. Sounds weak, though

[skip wooznum]

Well I promised a serious vote. vote: UoS. I still don't like the rvs justification, I don't like this question. It doesn't seem genuine. They're not the kinds of things I remember from your other games (although they were quite a while ago, and were heavy in theory talk). I think this is worth some exploration.

[chairs]

skip / UoS scumteam, calling it now.

[Seprix]

The funny thing about Chairs is that he lurks so much, he's only posted 8 times.

[A Drowned Kernel]

Is it just me or does this ww/teproc fight seem a tad scum vs. scum?

The only way to know for sure is to lynch one of them.

[A Drowned Kernel]

I did know it was L-1.

I appreciate all the reactions.

vote: Teproc.  Sorry to worry you, WW, I just wanted to see what Teproc would do to an unannounced L-1

Town read on chairs.

[skip wooznum]

Is it just me or does this ww/teproc fight seem a tad scum vs. scum?

The only way to know for sure is to lynch one of them.

how do you know we'll know for sure after lynching only one of them?  Do you know neither is scum?

[A Drowned Kernel]

I don't think the mail-mi/Teproc scumteam line of reasoning makes much sense either (not only for the obvious reasons), but I doubt WW meant much by it. As a reminder : thinking about scumteams on day 1 is almost always counterproductive.

It's something Jimmmm pointed out once: a lot of the time, when scum has a  scumpartners in a big argument, etc., they make comments like "town v. town" or "same alignment" or something to that effect.

I buy this, actually. Teproc and mail-mi are probably either both town or both scum.

[A Drowned Kernel]

Mmm I think I could go back to vote: skip

[Seprix]

I don't think the mail-mi/Teproc scumteam line of reasoning makes much sense either (not only for the obvious reasons), but I doubt WW meant much by it. As a reminder : thinking about scumteams on day 1 is almost always counterproductive.

It's something Jimmmm pointed out once: a lot of the time, when scum has a  scumpartners in a big argument, etc., they make comments like "town v. town" or "same alignment" or something to that effect.

I buy this, actually. Teproc and mail-mi are probably either both town or both scum.

Or one could be town and one could be scum. There is no real information to be gleaned here.

[A Drowned Kernel]

Or one could be town and one could be scum. There is no real information to be gleaned here.

Why not?

[Seprix]

Or one could be town and one could be scum. There is no real information to be gleaned here.

Why not?

Your argument is total WIFOM, not to mention false. Sure, two scum could be arguing. Two town could be arguing. One town and one scum could be arguing. There's nothing to be gleaned here.

[A Drowned Kernel]

I'm not talking about two people arguing, I'm talking about mail-mi commenting on Teproc and WW and how there's a decent argument that that post is more likely to come from scum. And why are you so certain that there's no information to be gained from Teproc and WW's argument?

[chairs]

Could someone just use <b> on a vote or something so we can jump on the scumslip, please?

Also, semi-v/la for the weekend starting in ~30 minutes from this post.