Topic: M50: A Song Of Ice And Fire Mafia - Town Wins! (Read 338331 times)

pacovf · « **Reply #2850 on:** October 08, 2014, 06:15:16 am »

There is a very simple reason, but I won't give it so Robz won't shout at me.

There is a conspiracy theory were you are both scum and want to avoid giving an extra cop result.

Then there's EgorK confessing.

I'll wait in case XP wants to say anything, then I'll hammer.

ashersky · « **Reply #2851 on:** October 08, 2014, 06:45:39 am »

You are the 4th scum, pacovf. If not you, XP.

Otherwise, I just don't see a 4th.

You rolestopped to see if I would lie about my result? If I'm partners with EgorK, why would I claim to investigate him? I could say hydrad, or you, or anyone else.

That's the fairest, most terrible "trap" I've ever heard of, and it is clearly a scum ploy to discredit me.

Ridiculous. I should have outed ages ago.

Teproc · « **Reply #2852 on:** October 08, 2014, 06:46:56 am »

Quote from: ashersky on October 08, 2014, 06:45:39 am

Ridiculous. I should have outed ages ago.

What ?

ashersky · « **Reply #2853 on:** October 08, 2014, 06:47:47 am »

Quote from: Teproc on October 08, 2014, 06:46:56 am

Quote from: ashersky on October 08, 2014, 06:45:39 am
Ridiculous. I should have outed ages ago.

What ?

I should have stopped playing days before this.

ashersky · « **Reply #2854 on:** October 08, 2014, 06:48:14 am »

Also, Pacovf won't hammer confessed scum. That's a scum move for sure.

Teproc · « **Reply #2855 on:** October 08, 2014, 06:48:48 am »

I understand what you meant, I just don't understand why.

ashersky · « **Reply #2856 on:** October 08, 2014, 06:49:03 am »

Next, he'll be typing the vote but "forgetting" to bold it, Galz style.

Teproc · « **Reply #2857 on:** October 08, 2014, 06:50:42 am »

I love that you're still accusing him after not investigating him four nights in a row and when by far the most likely ting is that Egork is the last scum alive.

ashersky · « **Reply #2858 on:** October 08, 2014, 06:50:47 am »

Quote from: Teproc on October 08, 2014, 06:48:48 am

I understand what you meant, I just don't understand why.

Things are getting me too angry too easily. I need to stop playing. Maybe if I was scum, I wouldn't mind it so much. It's just not fun as town anymore, and especially as a PR.

ashersky · « **Reply #2859 on:** October 08, 2014, 06:51:40 am »

Quote from: Teproc on October 08, 2014, 06:50:42 am

I love that you're still accusing him after not investigating him four nights in a row and when by far the most likely ting is that Egork is the last scum alive.

I'm not arguing that EgorK isn't scum, he is definitely scum.

Tell me why a supposed town player won't hammer him. Tell me, please.

Teproc · « **Reply #2860 on:** October 08, 2014, 06:52:34 am »

He said he wanted XP to come in and clarify the rolelock/rolestop thing. That seems sensible to me.

pacovf · « **Reply #2861 on:** October 08, 2014, 06:52:41 am »

Because XP hasn't said yet if he rolestopped EgorK or not.

pacovf · « **Reply #2862 on:** October 08, 2014, 06:53:24 am »

I am sorry if this is making you feel angry, Ash. Really.

ashersky · « **Reply #2863 on:** October 08, 2014, 06:54:27 am »

Quote from: pacovf on October 08, 2014, 06:52:41 am

Because XP hasn't said yet if he rolestopped EgorK or not.

How does that affect EgorK's alignment, given he's confessed to being scum?

It's all academic if EgorK is in fact the last scum, as Teproc claims is most likely.

And yet...pacovf won't hammer him. This points clearly to pacovf being EgorK's partner.

Teproc · « **Reply #2864 on:** October 08, 2014, 06:55:27 am »

It doesn't but hammering sends us into the night, so might as well get it cleared up now, in case XP dies somehow or whatever.

Teproc · « **Reply #2865 on:** October 08, 2014, 06:55:42 am »

There's no upside for scum!pacovf not to hammer, too.

ashersky · « **Reply #2866 on:** October 08, 2014, 06:56:45 am »

You not hammering isn't making me angry.

The unwarranted suspicion going so far as to possibly ruining our chances of winning just in case of some insane conspiracy where I'm partners with EgorK? That makes me angry.

In the end, all I want is to win. A town member purposefully trying to mess with the cop's results is playing against him (and my) wincon! That makes me angry.

Teproc · « **Reply #2867 on:** October 08, 2014, 06:58:03 am »

We don't know that XP did that. You not getting a PM doesn't point to Egork getting rolestopped.

Teproc · « **Reply #2868 on:** October 08, 2014, 06:58:27 am »

You're being paranoid because people suspect you, which... this is a mafia game, you know.

Teproc · « **Reply #2869 on:** October 08, 2014, 06:59:13 am »

ash, do you have reason to think that your PR might not work if no one is Hand of the King ? That could maybe be it, idk.

pacovf · « **Reply #2870 on:** October 08, 2014, 07:00:22 am »

Ok. You got me. I confess, I was scum since the beginning, and you caught me because I joked in the Stark QT during N0.

EgorK hasn't 100% confessed, just 99%. There's that 1% chance were he is town who realizes that there is no way he is escaping the lynch today, and he doesn't feel like fighting that.

One of the 1% conspiracy theories is that both you (Ash) and XP are scum. You set a trap on EgorK by roleblocking him. Ash gets a free pass of not using his cop by claiming to be rolestopped. If you target someone else, you have to give an innocent result. If you target EgorK without being rolestopped, then whether you say he is scum or town, you are pretty much doomed. But this is a 1% conspiracy theory.

So, I wait for XP to give his result, just in case. I think it is sensible.

PPE 6

ashersky · « **Reply #2871 on:** October 08, 2014, 07:01:30 am »

You've basically let XP commandeer and throw this game in the garbage. I PMed Faust during the epic D1 to tell him this game was the most fun I'd had at mafia in quite awhile. I spoke too soon. I jinxed it.

If we aren't lynching EgorK, who has confessed to being mafia, then definitely lynch me.

I refuse to be treated like this, and to let XP play puppet master when he has been so incredibly wrong.

I could have been wrong about Pacovf. I didn't commandeer the game, or purposefully play against my wincon, to force feed everyone a read that couldn't be confirmed. But that's what XP is doing, and you are letting him. That's tacit consent and support, and overtly declaring yourselves against me.

So lynch me.

pacovf · « **Reply #2872 on:** October 08, 2014, 07:02:12 am »

Wait what? When did we say we weren't lynching EgorK?

Teproc · « **Reply #2873 on:** October 08, 2014, 07:02:25 am »

Egork is definitely scum. The possibility we can play around is taht of a 4th scum.

Dear GOd, stop that ash. WE ARE LYNCHING EGORK, WE'RE JUST WAITING FIVE MINTUES.

ashersky · « **Reply #2874 on:** October 08, 2014, 07:03:06 am »

Quote from: Teproc on October 08, 2014, 06:59:13 am

ash, do you have reason to think that your PR might not work if no one is Hand of the King ? That could maybe be it, idk.

No reason at all. I can't target anyone in my house. I have no house, so I have no restrictions.

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