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[Voltaire]

Also, I don't know if it was ever publicly shared, but azadin started out the game as Hand of the King.

[Hydrad]

Current Gamestate (going into N2)

<x> indicates weighted vote in House. (y) indicates how many House moves they have remaining.

<avg=2.5>House Baratheon - arsonist (with strongman ignition as long as they have the most members)
<3>EgorK(2), <3>Hydrad(2), <2>Voltaire(1), <2>silverspawn(1)

<2.67>House Stark - "complete" doctor (permanent, Lannister is extinct)
<3>pacofv(2), <3>Teproc(2), <2>IG(1)

<3>House Targ - roleblocker (rolestopper as long as average weighted votes >= other average weighted votes)
<3>Robz(2), <3>WW(2), <3>XP(2)

Houseless
<0>ashersky(1)

I think we all started with 2 votes actually. even though people swapped N1 everyone had 2 votes.

[Voltaire]

This is going into N2. People who stayed in their original Houses now have 3 (that went up at the end of N1).

[Hydrad]

This is going into N2. People who stayed in their original Houses now have 3 (that went up at the end of N1).

Oh I was pretty sure that we all started at 2 votes and everyone in their own house has 3 votes now. I don't think the house moving affecting voting power for the first day? but i could of misunderstood.

[Voltaire]

This is going into N2. People who stayed in their original Houses now have 3 (that went up at the end of N1).

Oh I was pretty sure that we all started at 2 votes and everyone in their own house has 3 votes now. I don't think the house moving affecting voting power for the first day? but i could of misunderstood.

You're saying the same thing I am.

[Witherweaver]

Wait, why do we think we have a cop?  Because of the House roles?

[Voltaire]

Wait, why do we think we have a cop?  Because of the House roles?

Look at how much strongman/blocking there is (scum had a jailkeeper, Hand of the King buff, Targ House power, etc. etc.).

Pretend we know there is a cop. Massclaim, right? So then it's just an issue of, do we have a cop.

[Teproc]

Stark's empowerement condition points to Lannister's empowered power being investigative (since it's an obvious way to avoid a follow the cop strategy).

If our only reason to massclaim is "what if we have a cop ?", why don't we just ask investigative powers only to claim ?

[Witherweaver]

Huh, but.. problems.  Say there is a cop.  Then keep Cop out of Stark and Stark on the throne and permanently protect Cop.  As Stark members die move others that aren't Stark into Stark.  Can abandon other houses if needed.  We just keep getting results and win win win.

This leads me to believe there isn't a cop.

This leads me to think that scum's best option is fake claiming Cop, because if there is one they're screwed anyway, so might as well try it.

Also, I think we don't need Baratheon.

Did Baratheon vote to not use their power?

[silverspawn]

Stark's empowerement condition points to Lannister's empowered power being investigative (since it's an obvious way to avoid a follow the cop strategy).

If our only reason to massclaim is "what if we have a cop ?", why don't we just ask investigative powers only to claim ?

if investigate powers claim anyway, isn't it smarter to massclaim? that way, we get scum in trouble, and since we reveal powers anyway it's no disadvantage.

[Voltaire]

Baratheon voted to give their power to me. I was Hand of the King last night. I'm not revealing if I used it or not.

[Witherweaver]

Baratheon voted to give their power to me. I was Hand of the King last night. I'm not revealing if I used it or not.

The night is dark, and full of terrors.

[Voltaire]

I could keep being coy, or I could just say it, since I've always known I was just going to say it.

I am an investigative role with a result from N1.

So, let's take it from here.

[Witherweaver]

Alright, then.. I guess mass claim is good?

Though, too bad we didn't get the chance to let scum fake a Cop role

[Voltaire]

Alright, then.. I guess mass claim is good?

Though, too bad we didn't get the chance to let scum fake a Cop role

Well, it didn't seem like you were going to end up supporting mass claim, so...it's all good.

[silverspawn]

I could keep being coy, or I could just say it, since I've always known I was just going to say it.

I am an investigative role with a result from N1.

So, let's take it from here.

mh, but why don't we do an ordered massclaim instead? you shouldn't have to claim first

but oh well. i'm a one-shot cop. I used my shot N1 on XP and received Innocent.

[Voltaire]

STOP FREAKING CLAIMING

[Hydrad]

want me to claim next?

[Robz888]

Slow down all. Let Voltaire and WW run the show here.

[Voltaire]

mh, but why don't we do an ordered massclaim instead? you shouldn't have to claim first

Have you been following our conversation? It didn't look like WW was going to support an organized massclaim, which is obviously best. I claimed (obviously not my target or result) to indicate that we need to massclaim. After I posted that, (I assume) WW started working up a claiming order, with me last. Your claim is a derp that messes with this.

[Teproc]

We should wait for a WW-provided order...


PPE : 5

[Voltaire]

And when I say "obviously best", I mean that I know it's obviously best, but WW can't, so his initial hesitation is completely understandable and I knew I needed to change his mind.

[Teproc]

mh, but why don't we do an ordered massclaim instead? you shouldn't have to claim first

Have you been following our conversation? It didn't look like WW was going to support an organized massclaim, which is obviously best. I claimed (obviously not my target or result) to indicate that we need to massclaim. After I posted that, (I assume) WW started working up a claiming order, with me last. Your claim is a derp that messes with this.

It's not great, but what's done is done anyway.

[silverspawn]

well sorry? you claimed, I took it as, we don't massclaim, but investigative roles claim, as that's what has been said before

besides, I would end up early on the list anyway.

[Voltaire]

I don't think it's that bad. At this point we wait for WW to come up with a claim order for everyone who is left.