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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #2775 on: December 20, 2015, 12:56:09 pm »

You're at L-2, we're fine. We obviously need faust to come back and clarify before we do anything at the very least.
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #2776 on: December 20, 2015, 01:14:15 pm »

The most likely to me is that faust didn't mean to say he tracked you, just that he didn't target e and thus couldn't contradict you. But we'll see.
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Oh. I didn't even think of that. I just assumed he targeted ww
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #2777 on: December 20, 2015, 01:20:53 pm »

I would like to know if I indeed targeted e.
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #2778 on: December 20, 2015, 01:22:01 pm »

I would like to know if I indeed targeted e.

What's this now ?
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #2779 on: December 20, 2015, 01:25:31 pm »

I would like to know if I indeed targeted e.

What's this now ?

What's what now?
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #2780 on: December 20, 2015, 01:27:49 pm »

@iguana, you're sure you can't provide us with any more flavour than that? I'm looking for a specific flavour word from you here. Not "vanillaised".
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #2781 on: December 20, 2015, 01:30:34 pm »

I would like to know if I indeed targeted e.

What's this now ?

You're claiming that I didn't
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #2782 on: December 20, 2015, 01:32:35 pm »

I would like to know if I indeed targeted e.

What's this now ?

You're claiming that I didn't

That's incorrect. I'm saying your result is wrong. I have no idea if you targeted e or not because I have no idea what your role is.

More to the point : if anyone knows who you targeted, it's you, so... why ask ?
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #2783 on: December 20, 2015, 01:33:43 pm »

I would like to know if I indeed targeted e.

What's this now ?

You're claiming that I didn't

That's incorrect. I'm saying your result is wrong. I have no idea if you targeted e or not because I have no idea what your role is.

More to the point : if anyone knows who you targeted, it's you, so... why ask ?

Have you been reading this game?
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #2784 on: December 20, 2015, 01:35:56 pm »

I would like to know if I indeed targeted e.

What's this now ?

You're claiming that I didn't

That's incorrect. I'm saying your result is wrong. I have no idea if you targeted e or not because I have no idea what your role is.

More to the point : if anyone knows who you targeted, it's you, so... why ask ?

Have you been reading this game?

Yes. Have you ?

If you were town, you would know for sure who you targeted. The things in question would be :
a) Is Teproc scum trying to frame me ?
b) Did faust track me ?

How is "did I target e" a relevant question for you to ask here ?
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #2785 on: December 20, 2015, 01:38:08 pm »

Well. If WW got redirected would he know?
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #2786 on: December 20, 2015, 01:39:07 pm »

I would like to know if I indeed targeted e.

What's this now ?

You're claiming that I didn't

That's incorrect. I'm saying your result is wrong. I have no idea if you targeted e or not because I have no idea what your role is.

More to the point : if anyone knows who you targeted, it's you, so... why ask ?

And why are you doing this semantic dancing?
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #2787 on: December 20, 2015, 01:40:05 pm »

I would like to know if I indeed targeted e.

What's this now ?

You're claiming that I didn't

That's incorrect. I'm saying your result is wrong. I have no idea if you targeted e or not because I have no idea what your role is.

More to the point : if anyone knows who you targeted, it's you, so... why ask ?

Have you been reading this game?

Yes. Have you ?

If you were town, you would know for sure who you targeted. The things in question would be :
a) Is Teproc scum trying to frame me ?
b) Did faust track me ?

How is "did I target e" a relevant question for you to ask here ?

I think it's pretty clear that I'm asking Faust.
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #2788 on: December 20, 2015, 01:43:09 pm »

Well. If WW got redirected would he know?

No, but it's not like the scum Bus Driver (or whatever) is going to claim to save WW, is he ?

PPE : Semantics matter. Obviously I guessed that was your intent, but the framing of it isn't irrelevant. Town!you knows what he knows, and is also quite unsure of faust's alignment. I don't know that it's an incredibly strong point against you, but it does indicate me that you're not approaching this the way I'd expect town!you to approach it.
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #2789 on: December 20, 2015, 01:43:13 pm »

If I were to have made up this result, wouldn't it be a lot better to claim I did detect motion?  If he acted or someone did target him, they can confirm me, and if not then we're on the hunt for a mystery PR.
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #2790 on: December 20, 2015, 01:45:23 pm »

Well. If WW got redirected would he know?

No, but it's not like the scum Bus Driver (or whatever) is going to claim to save WW, is he ?

PPE : Semantics matter. Obviously I guessed that was your intent, but the framing of it isn't irrelevant. Town!you knows what he knows, and is also quite unsure of faust's alignment. I don't know that it's an incredibly strong point against you, but it does indicate me that you're not approaching this the way I'd expect town!you to approach it.

You and Faust both lying about my results would be somewhat suspicious, and probably not too likely.

The latter argument is a scummy by you, so I'd suggest not pursuing it.
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #2791 on: December 20, 2015, 01:49:25 pm »

Well, I'm not saying it's a great argument, I just wanted to pursue what I thought was a weird way to ask that particular question.

As far as what you'd normally do... sure. But maybe you've decided to be counterintuitive at every point because hey, it worked for you yesterday. At this point there are two instances of your story not lining up with another PR, one of which I know is town. I'm finding hard to buy that this is just happening with random redirections getting you twice in a row. Occam's Razor says you're scum, so that's where I am.
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #2792 on: December 20, 2015, 03:27:35 pm »

I just got a PM, Ash said there was a mod error and that I should have got a "motion detected" result.

Can you verify that a mod error was made?
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #2793 on: December 20, 2015, 03:36:16 pm »

Ugh.
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #2794 on: December 20, 2015, 03:36:59 pm »

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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #2795 on: December 20, 2015, 03:38:22 pm »

Vote Count 3.1:

WW (2): 2.7, Hydrad

Not Voting (7): Ampharos, WW, faust, EgorK, Haddock, iguanaiguana, Teproc

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Day 3 will end at 1:15 p.m. on December 29.
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #2796 on: December 20, 2015, 03:45:21 pm »

I just finished a 12-hour/2-day road trip, during the middle of which I started the day.  I apologize for any affect on the game any errors may have had.  Nothing else will be said on this matter until after the game.
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #2797 on: December 20, 2015, 03:54:30 pm »

Well, I'm not lying.

I'm not really sure how to interpret the rest.  I have trouble with both Teproc and e being Town, because then there's very little left for PoE.

Amph, Iguana still seem town, especially with Iguana's claim. 

I guess Hydrad is possible.. Faust is possible but there is still the question of why scum!Faust claims yesterday.

Haddock is still lynchable.
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #2798 on: December 20, 2015, 03:55:15 pm »

Oh, there is Egor.  He's maybe on the level of Hydrad.
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #2799 on: December 20, 2015, 04:45:15 pm »

Yeah, this is a very awkward situation. Obviously ash can't confirm anything... the weirdest things keep happening in this game.

Well, for now I'm still waiting to see what faust has to say, he's V/LA but said he should be able to post once a day.
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