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Re: BM30: MacGuffin Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #650 on: April 29, 2020, 11:39:48 am »

Vote: Awaclus

I figure it’s somewhat better than random
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Re: BM30: MacGuffin Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #651 on: April 29, 2020, 11:39:57 am »

Given that we have exact same flavor, I think mail-mi is probably town

Well thanks, but it would also make sense to have one good sailor one bad sailor. I still think I'd prefer to lynch you over anyone else, mostly because I don't know if we can get someone else in 20min.

Do you prefer lynching him over no lynch?
I don't know. Uch what a mess
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Re: BM30: MacGuffin Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #652 on: April 29, 2020, 11:40:31 am »

vote: awaclus
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Re: BM30: MacGuffin Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #653 on: April 29, 2020, 11:40:57 am »

I don’t think I’m willing to risk losing the items they have to give to lynch a VT.

Whomever has the rope will have to make the call on who is to be trusted with it.

I mean, I'm doubtful that the value of any item is in and of itself worth not lynching somebody. That is, I don't think a No-Lynch is the default play to avoid lynching somebody with an item to give. I assume most people have items to give, so that road doesn't really lead anywhere.

And there's a strong argument that lynching a VT now is better than randomly lynching and hitting a PR instead. Especially given the 20 minutes we have until deadline.

The question then is, on D1 (moreso than most other days, I think), is a VT lynch worse than a no-lynch? What if there's a chance that the assumed VT is scum?
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Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


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TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

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Re: BM30: MacGuffin Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #654 on: April 29, 2020, 11:41:13 am »

But I doubt this will actually happen. Who's online?
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Re: BM30: MacGuffin Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #655 on: April 29, 2020, 11:42:06 am »

But I doubt this will actually happen. Who's online?

There's enough people to change a lynch.
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Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: BM30: MacGuffin Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #656 on: April 29, 2020, 11:42:19 am »

But I doubt this will actually happen. Who's online?
It says 9 of us
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Re: BM30: MacGuffin Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #657 on: April 29, 2020, 11:42:40 am »

I will not vote Awaclus.
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Re: BM30: MacGuffin Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #658 on: April 29, 2020, 11:42:57 am »

vote: awaclus
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Re: BM30: MacGuffin Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #659 on: April 29, 2020, 11:43:08 am »

Given that we have exact same flavor, I think mail-mi is probably town

Well thanks, but it would also make sense to have one good sailor one bad sailor. I still think I'd prefer to lynch you over anyone else, mostly because I don't know if we can get someone else in 20min.

Do you prefer lynching him over no lynch?

yes.
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Re: BM30: MacGuffin Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #660 on: April 29, 2020, 11:44:18 am »

Skip is scum.

Lynching in the 1v1 is the town play.

Lynch one of them, hopefully skip.
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Re: BM30: MacGuffin Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #661 on: April 29, 2020, 11:44:31 am »

But I doubt this will actually happen. Who's online?
It says 9 of us

Didds, you don't want to lynch either of the essentially claimed VT's because the items that they hold will be lost - do you honestly think randomly swinging the lynch to Awaclus will have better results? There's a chance he's scum, yes. But there's also a chance he's a PR - and almost a certainty that he too has an item to give... and that he won't get to claim that item.
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: BM30: MacGuffin Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #662 on: April 29, 2020, 11:45:13 am »

15min left.

I don't think awaclus is gonna happen.

I'll give it a couple more minutes though
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Re: BM30: MacGuffin Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #663 on: April 29, 2020, 11:45:30 am »

I don’t think I’m willing to risk losing the items they have to give to lynch a VT.

Whomever has the rope will have to make the call on who is to be trusted with it.

I mean, I'm doubtful that the value of any item is in and of itself worth not lynching somebody. That is, I don't think a No-Lynch is the default play to avoid lynching somebody with an item to give. I assume most people have items to give, so that road doesn't really lead anywhere.

And there's a strong argument that lynching a VT now is better than randomly lynching and hitting a PR instead. Especially given the 20 minutes we have until deadline.

The question then is, on D1 (moreso than most other days, I think), is a VT lynch worse than a no-lynch? What if there's a chance that the assumed VT is scum?

Normally, I’d say that a VT is way better than a no lynch. But the items part has me confuzzled. I know that I need an item. In the skip/MM role, they need an item. Based on my limited sample size, If VTs get their items, town gets way stronger. So, losing the items is not st a marginal risk. A no lynch to keep the items is an affirmative choice, I think
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Re: BM30: MacGuffin Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #664 on: April 29, 2020, 11:46:06 am »

In center of the town, the mob prepared for justice.
"We have to lynch someone!" said one. "Who has the rope?"
The rest of the mob turned on him. "What did you say?"


With 15 alive, it takes 8 to lynch?. Deadline is April 29th at noon ET. That's in fifteen minutes.

Vote Count 1.8:

skip wooznum (5): Awaclus, scolapasta, MiX, Joseph2303, Galzria
mail-mi (5): LaLight, faust, A Drowned Kernel, sudgy, jotheonah
Awaclus (4): Eevee, WestCoastDidds, skip wooznum, mail-mi
Not voting (1): DatSwan
« Last Edit: April 29, 2020, 11:55:26 am by Glooble »
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Re: BM30: MacGuffin Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #665 on: April 29, 2020, 11:46:10 am »

I will vote Awaclus over no-lynch.
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: BM30: MacGuffin Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #666 on: April 29, 2020, 11:46:29 am »

Okay, skip....what is your item?
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Re: BM30: MacGuffin Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #667 on: April 29, 2020, 11:46:58 am »

VC doesn't have Awaclus' vote btw
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Re: BM30: MacGuffin Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #668 on: April 29, 2020, 11:47:17 am »

15min left.

I don't think awaclus is gonna happen.

I'll give it a couple more minutes though

15 is a lot of time. Wait to see who shows up. I counted earlier and we were at 7 active, and that's before LL & Skip posted.
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: BM30: MacGuffin Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #669 on: April 29, 2020, 11:47:32 am »

I'll hammer Awaclus if it gets to that point.
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Re: BM30: MacGuffin Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #670 on: April 29, 2020, 11:49:09 am »

Vote: Awaclus - let's see.
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: BM30: MacGuffin Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #671 on: April 29, 2020, 11:49:47 am »

But I doubt this will actually happen. Who's online?
It says 9 of us

Didds, you don't want to lynch either of the essentially claimed VT's because the items that they hold will be lost - do you honestly think randomly swinging the lynch to Awaclus will have better results? There's a chance he's scum, yes. But there's also a chance he's a PR - and almost a certainty that he too has an item to give... and that he won't get to claim that item.

Fair enough. But there is a greater chance he is scum than skip or mm, who I think are town. Chance at scum v pretty sure town seems reasonable

(The last time I felt like this is when we lynched you in the BM where we were all different scum)

You’d rather lynch skip than mm?
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Re: BM30: MacGuffin Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #672 on: April 29, 2020, 11:50:01 am »

Back to PC, ready to rumble

mail-mi, claiming now is best, in case it makes us not want to lynch you.  We don't have time at this point to lynch anybody else, and your stalling is making it more scummy.

Didds, I'm from Portland.

The good thing is, I just got to my computer and my poptarts are in the toaster, so I'm good now.

I am a Sailor, and my PM says I'm pretty good with rope and I can tie people up if I get one, which protects them and roleblocks them. So I'm a VT without the rope, a Jailkeeper with it.
This is exactly my role as well...

I don't know whay that means though.

Lol.

One good sailor and one evil sailor? I honestly don't know.

I guess this makes no sense regardless of anything, honestly given my PR I presume both of these are fakeclaims, but what the hell does that mean?

Vote: Awaclus - let's see.

Awaclus is town wtf dudes this is literally random it will never land on scum unless scum's asleep.

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Re: BM30: MacGuffin Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #673 on: April 29, 2020, 11:50:43 am »

But I doubt this will actually happen. Who's online?
It says 9 of us

Didds, you don't want to lynch either of the essentially claimed VT's because the items that they hold will be lost - do you honestly think randomly swinging the lynch to Awaclus will have better results? There's a chance he's scum, yes. But there's also a chance he's a PR - and almost a certainty that he too has an item to give... and that he won't get to claim that item.

Fair enough. But there is a greater chance he is scum than skip or mm, who I think are town. Chance at scum v pretty sure town seems reasonable

(The last time I felt like this is when we lynched you in the BM where we were all different scum)

You’d rather lynch skip than mm?

Between those two, yes. But I agree with you - I think they're both town.
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: BM30: MacGuffin Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #674 on: April 29, 2020, 11:51:19 am »

MiX railing here makes me like the Awaclus lynch more.
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20
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