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Re: ZM17: Battle School Mafia (Towns wins flawlessly!)
« Reply #550 on: March 26, 2014, 10:31:05 pm »

Robz, to quote/elaborate slightly from myself in the speccy:

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Here's the thing for Robz/generic town player:

Being right means nothing if it pisses off other town players so that they don't believe/trust you. The goal isn't to have had 100% perfect reads at the end of the game. The goal is to win. That means being careful how you interact with other players, because you need your fellow townies to trust you.

And you barely got away with it here. You were lucky that TA calmed down and trusted you. Because he was the actual goddamn IC in this setup he's proof that your strategy pisses off town to the point that they may not trust/listen to you.
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Re: ZM17: Battle School Mafia (Towns wins flawlessly!)
« Reply #551 on: March 26, 2014, 11:17:19 pm »

Robz, to quote/elaborate slightly from myself in the speccy:

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Here's the thing for Robz/generic town player:

Being right means nothing if it pisses off other town players so that they don't believe/trust you. The goal isn't to have had 100% perfect reads at the end of the game. The goal is to win. That means being careful how you interact with other players, because you need your fellow townies to trust you.

And you barely got away with it here. You were lucky that TA calmed down and trusted you. Because he was the actual goddamn IC in this setup he's proof that your strategy pisses off town to the point that they may not trust/listen to you.

Respectfully, I disagree.

I mean, look, I know I'm not an IC. It's really just like entirely joking--or at least, in this game it was, because yeah, I wasn't. I don't see the harm in a little humor. Especially humor that does serve a purpose, because I can judge people's reactions to it.

I trusted that my antics and my humor would eventually acquit me in the eyes of the real ICs and help me deduce scum. Both things happened. I was right, and I convinced everyone I was right. So... I'm quite happy with my play, it worked, and I don't really see the harm in it. I think the lashing out at it was overblown. Basically, I wasn't ready to play yet, I throughout like two or thre jokey posts to gauge reactions, and I came back swinging. And it worked.
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Re: ZM17: Battle School Mafia (Towns wins flawlessly!)
« Reply #552 on: March 27, 2014, 12:12:39 am »

And I agree it worked - I just think it barely worked, and is unlikely to keep working is all.

Also, I find it as funny as the coin token joke.  :P
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Re: ZM17: Battle School Mafia (Towns wins flawlessly!)
« Reply #553 on: March 27, 2014, 12:28:28 am »

I think the fact that Robz is getting strong reactions is a good indication that his strategy is working for what he wants to accomplish. If people get pissed off that's not his fault, nor does that mean it's a bad strategy.
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Re: ZM17: Battle School Mafia (Towns wins flawlessly!)
« Reply #554 on: March 27, 2014, 05:54:07 am »

So, when do we play again?
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Re: ZM17: Battle School Mafia (Towns wins flawlessly!)
« Reply #555 on: March 27, 2014, 06:28:28 am »

I'll run it starting on Monday forum time, if that works for Yuma.

Yuma, eevee, and Voltaire have first crack at slots.
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Re: ZM17: Battle School Mafia (Towns wins flawlessly!)
« Reply #556 on: March 27, 2014, 06:36:41 am »

Hooray! Thanks ash!
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Re: ZM17: Battle School Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #557 on: March 27, 2014, 08:56:04 am »

nkirbit : I did get the sense from TA's answer that IRL reasons explained your relative lurkiness, but even then, you weren't as quick to answer in the last few hours.

ANyway, you guys got very unlucky, because obviously mcmc completely got me and didn't deserve getting lynched with me on wagon... I think TA and Robz deserve the cred there, for making mcmc my only option.

when i saw you vote i was like NOOOOOOOOO! protect me my fellow townie!!!! don't let them do this, after all we've been through!
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Re: ZM17: Battle School Mafia (Towns wins flawlessly!)
« Reply #558 on: March 27, 2014, 08:59:55 am »

mcmc in the scum QT :

"Teproc - great reads on me"

Ahem. I have great reads on you when you're town ! Which I'm never going to believe again !

Nooo, your one of the remaining people who had not played with scum!mcmc please don't let this make you find my scummy everygame like everyone else :(
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Re: ZM17: Battle School Mafia (Towns wins flawlessly!)
« Reply #559 on: March 27, 2014, 05:44:13 pm »

Yeah, I am 100% in the next one.
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Re: ZM17: Battle School Mafia (Towns wins flawlessly!)
« Reply #560 on: March 27, 2014, 07:25:44 pm »

I'll run it starting on Monday forum time, if that works for Yuma.

Yuma, eevee, and Voltaire have first crack at slots.

That should work fine for me. Do you want someone else to run it so you can be in it?
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Re: ZM17: Battle School Mafia (Towns wins flawlessly!)
« Reply #561 on: March 27, 2014, 07:26:15 pm »

I can run it if ash wants to play.
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Re: ZM17: Battle School Mafia (Towns wins flawlessly!)
« Reply #562 on: March 27, 2014, 07:26:22 pm »

I'll run it starting on Monday forum time, if that works for Yuma.

Yuma, eevee, and Voltaire have first crack at slots.

That should work fine for me. Do you want someone else to run it so you can be in it?

Nah, that's fine.  This setup feels like a part of me now.
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Re: ZM17: Battle School Mafia (Towns wins flawlessly!)
« Reply #563 on: March 28, 2014, 08:27:26 pm »

I'll run it starting on Monday forum time, if that works for Yuma.

Yuma, eevee, and Voltaire have first crack at slots.

Is there a thread for this? Not a huge rush, but if we are going to start this Monday it might be nice to make sure we have enough to play? We probably do, but over weekends sometimes peeps aren't around to sign up...
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