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[Grujah]

Chess is the greatest game of all?

The concept is amazing, but to me a great game has some sort of randomness.

I'm not actually trying to argue that it's the best game ever (though hey, it's great). I'm saying that if you're going based on number of people who play, then chess far out-does the named games, etc. etc., and that THAT is not a great metric.

It's not a metric of how good a game is. But I didn't think it was an issue of how good it is, but how BIG is it. MTG has long running tournaments and WAY bigger player-base.

[polonkus]

Chess is the greatest game of all?

The concept is amazing, but to me a great game has some sort of randomness.

I'm not actually trying to argue that it's the best game ever (though hey, it's great). I'm saying that if you're going based on number of people who play, then chess far out-does the named games, etc. etc., and that THAT is not a great metric.

It's not a metric of how good a game is. But I didn't think it was an issue of how good it is, but how BIG is it. MTG has long running tournaments and WAY bigger player-base.

Also I think for these purposes you need to distinguish between copyright-encumbered games like Dominion and MTG and ones that anyone is free to implement like chess.

[WanderingWinder]

Chess is the greatest game of all?

The concept is amazing, but to me a great game has some sort of randomness.

I'm not actually trying to argue that it's the best game ever (though hey, it's great). I'm saying that if you're going based on number of people who play, then chess far out-does the named games, etc. etc., and that THAT is not a great metric.

It's not a metric of how good a game is. But I didn't think it was an issue of how good it is, but how BIG is it. MTG has long running tournaments and WAY bigger player-base.

Also I think for these purposes you need to distinguish between copyright-encumbered games like Dominion and MTG and ones that anyone is free to implement like chess.

Well, anyone can basically make a game that's exactly like these, too, due to the weirdness of copyright laws. But to just cop anyway, I would submit Scrabble.

[Watno]

   
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[Captain_Frisk]

   
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It's back 'up' ...

Yeah - up is in quotes.

[Bondles]

You kind of have to feel sad for a company that has a shiny new product go so wrong on launch.

At the same time, it's pretty hard to feel bad for a company that gives so little consideration to the privacy and security of its customers.

[^_^_^_^]

hmm, by the comments and first look isotropic is a lot of times more advanced and executed better than goko now :? Didnt they tryed to ask/hire Dougz for help, because now it looks childish with all these bugs/not finished things popping out :?

No, they asked, but Doug declined. I think we can see why.

As for the issues, I believe this is a great way to ruin a great game. I can't wait for them to ruin games like RftG, Citadel, etc. !!!!

[Tdog]

My favorite validation code: Service Tempora

[Bondles]

My favorite validation code: Service Tempora

How apropos

[PSUmvp]

Not that I have gotten to the point of creating a user yet...  Heaven forbid the captura from working properly.

But has anyone noticed that it asks you for your email, then you create a username and password.  However on the login screen you still use your email and password.  I guess it is just piling on at this point, but seriously can't they at least align these to be the same?

I guess maybe if we could get in and try out the gameplay, we wouldnt have to bitch about all of these things

[zxcvbn2]

Not that I have gotten to the point of creating a user yet...  Heaven forbid the captura from working properly.

But has anyone noticed that it asks you for your email, then you create a username and password.  However on the login screen you still use your email and password.  I guess it is just piling on at this point, but seriously can't they at least align these to be the same?

I guess maybe if we could get in and try out the gameplay, we wouldnt have to bitch about all of these things

Username for the lobby and leaderboard. Don't want everyone to have that information.

[Davio]

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[Tombolo]

I GOT IT TO START A GAME!

...I think it's crashed halfway through, but I finally get to monkey around with the UI!  You don't seem to need an account to just start up a game with the AI.

It's not as horrible as I had feared, although it's not great either.

[Wolphmaniac]

...the huge, gaping lack of security. Which is why I'm going to steer clear of the thing for a long time, at least.

This is very telling.  I don't know much about internet security, but if WW won't play Dominion on Goko due to security issues, that is enough to scare me off.  That's like if a bakery comes out with a new cookie, and Cookie Monster himself comes out and says, "This cookie is not safe to eat, so I'm not eating it."  No way am I going anywhere near that cookie. 

[werothegreat]

How are you all starting games?  It's still showing "private beta" when I go the site.  I mean, I'm in the private beta, but I want to play with Dark Ages cards.

[IamOBESE]

How are you all starting games?  It's still showing "private beta" when I go the site.  I mean, I'm in the private beta, but I want to play with Dark Ages cards.

Go to goko.com instead of using the dominion URL

(not that its working right now.. but that's how I go in earlier)

[Galzria]

How are you all starting games?  It's still showing "private beta" when I go the site.  I mean, I'm in the private beta, but I want to play with Dark Ages cards.

From my perspective:

goko.com - Takes you to the Beta Page
www.goko.com - Takes you to the main site.

[zxcvbn2]

Go here: http://goko.com/Dominion/v400/gameClient.html#

Or maybe don't. It's not letting you login, register or play games anyway ATM.

[WanderingWinder]

...the huge, gaping lack of security. Which is why I'm going to steer clear of the thing for a long time, at least.

This is very telling.  I don't know much about internet security, but if WW won't play Dominion on Goko due to security issues, that is enough to scare me off.  That's like if a bakery comes out with a new cookie, and Cookie Monster himself comes out and says, "This cookie is not safe to eat, so I'm not eating it."  No way am I going anywhere near that cookie. 

Well, to be fair, I think I've played like.... half a dozen games on iso in the last month and a half, and it doesn't have any of these issues (so far as I can tell, anyway).
But yeah, don't get on the thing, now at least.

[Captain_Frisk]

...the huge, gaping lack of security. Which is why I'm going to steer clear of the thing for a long time, at least.

This is very telling.  I don't know much about internet security, but if WW won't play Dominion on Goko due to security issues, that is enough to scare me off.  That's like if a bakery comes out with a new cookie, and Cookie Monster himself comes out and says, "This cookie is not safe to eat, so I'm not eating it."  No way am I going anywhere near that cookie. 

Well, to be fair, I think I've played like.... half a dozen games on iso in the last month and a half, and it doesn't have any of these issues (so far as I can tell, anyway).
But yeah, don't get on the thing, now at least.

Also - someone - wasn't me I swear - pasted my post out on BGG regarding the list of known security issues.  Not that I'm saying bgg as a whole is less trustworthy than our fine community - but they are a little angrier than we are - and there are alot of them.

[DStu]

Also - someone - wasn't me I swear - pasted my post out on BGG regarding the list of known security issues.  Not that I'm saying bgg as a whole is less trustworthy than our fine community - but they are a little angrier than we are - and there are alot of them.

Oo, Alots of angry BGGs...

[Captain_Frisk]

Also - someone - wasn't me I swear - pasted my post out on BGG regarding the list of known security issues.  Not that I'm saying bgg as a whole is less trustworthy than our fine community - but they are a little angrier than we are - and there are alot of them.

Oo, Alots of angry BGGs...

I don't know that they are representative of all prospective customers - but I can see the point that if I was all excited about the upcoming launch of the ios version of dominion... and my expectations were set based on say... the ascension app... that I'd be a little upset to find out that after N months, its just a web browser wrapper around an HTML5 application that isn't nearly as slick - and doesn't offer offline play (personally my ipad gets the most use when I'm commuting long distances)

[Avin]

Just completed one game in adventure mode!

Pretty boring so far but I guess it could get interesting.

[Avin]

Just completed one game in adventure mode!

Pretty boring so far but I guess it could get interesting.

Second game failed to load though.

[Watno]

Also got first adventure done