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[Witherweaver]

Hello.

I don't see why it's much better to keep your thoughts in your QT than here. Unless you're some PR and have stuff you don't want to share with the rest of the town. Reads and cases are what we have to go on. This coming from someone who have a record of not writing that much in my QTs.

I already have 15 or so posts in my QT. There is really no reason to spam the thread with them.

Obvscum!

[A Drowned Kernel]

Shouldn't someone with an IC-ish role wait until later to claim? ICs are more useful later in the game.

I'll go ahead and claim IC now.

Funny you should say that, I'm going to go ahead and claim Fruit Vendor.

[yuma]

Shouldn't someone with an IC-ish role wait until later to claim? ICs are more useful later in the game.

I looked over some stuff and have some ideas but don't want to actually recommend anything until looking at it closer...

[yuma]

Shouldn't someone with an IC-ish role wait until later to claim? ICs are more useful later in the game.

I'll go ahead and claim IC now.

Funny you should say that, I'm going to go ahead and claim Fruit Vendor.

Or claiming now works too...

[yuma]

Well if true we know we are in setup 3 or 11. And mafia knows which setup that is.

[Witherweaver]

Shouldn't someone with an IC-ish role wait until later to claim? ICs are more useful later in the game.

I'll go ahead and claim IC now.

Funny you should say that, I'm going to go ahead and claim Fruit Vendor.

I'll have an avacado.

[Roadrunner7671]

Shouldn't someone with an IC-ish role wait until later to claim? ICs are more useful later in the game.

I'll go ahead and claim IC now.

Funny you should say that, I'm going to go ahead and claim Fruit Vendor.

Can I counterclaim?

[faust]

Just for the record, this is a list of PRs that should claim immediately to counter this claim:

Fruit Vendor (doh)
(full) Tracker
Doctor
Odd-Night Watcher
1-shot Vig
1-shot Cop
2-shot Commuter
Universal Backup
Bodyguard
Neighborizer

(please check for yourselves that I did not make any mistake)

But really I believe ADK's claim.

[faust]

I'll have an avacado.

What is that? Some sort of code?

Vote: WW

[Roadrunner7671]

I truly believe that ADK is joking.
PPE

[yuma]

And I dont see a benefit of any of the other roles in those setups to claim.

If someone has a role that isn't in one of those two setups a claim today could be good... Or maybe even waiting until later if you feel you can get more benefit out of your role.

A nk flip of a role not in setup 3 or 11 would be enough to doom ADK if he is lying here. So I doubt he is lying.

[A Drowned Kernel]

Shouldn't someone with an IC-ish role wait until later to claim? ICs are more useful later in the game.

I'll go ahead and claim IC now.

Funny you should say that, I'm going to go ahead and claim Fruit Vendor.

Can I counterclaim?

If you want to get lynched, be my guest.

PPE: I am not. I am a Fruit Vendor, I believe that claiming now is best.

[yuma]

Just for the record, this is a list of PRs that should claim immediately to counter this claim:

Fruit Vendor (doh)
(full) Tracker
Doctor
Odd-Night Watcher
1-shot Vig
1-shot Cop
2-shot Commuter
Universal Backup
Bodyguard
Neighborizer

(please check for yourselves that I did not make any mistake)

But really I believe ADK's claim.

Why should they immediately claim?

[gkrieg13]

I'll have an avacado.

What is that? Some sort of code?

Vote: WW

ADK is a fruit vendor, and WW wants some?  That doesn't seem like code to me.

I can't counterclaim

PPE

[silverspawn]

I truly believe that ADK is joking.
PPE

I doubt that.

[faust]

Just for the record, this is a list of PRs that should claim immediately to counter this claim:

Fruit Vendor (doh)
(full) Tracker
Doctor
Odd-Night Watcher
1-shot Vig
1-shot Cop
2-shot Commuter
Universal Backup
Bodyguard
Neighborizer

(please check for yourselves that I did not make any mistake)

But really I believe ADK's claim.

Why should they immediately claim?

To out scum.

[Witherweaver]

I'll have an avacado.

What is that? Some sort of code?

Vote: WW

It's nutritious and delicious.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avocado

[faust]

I'll have an avacado.

What is that? Some sort of code?

Vote: WW

ADK is a fruit vendor, and WW wants some?  That doesn't seem like code to me.

I can't counterclaim

PPE

But what is an avacado?

[Witherweaver]

ADK is certainly not going to fake claim without checking that he can't be counterclaimed.

[Witherweaver]

I'll have an avacado.

What is that? Some sort of code?

Vote: WW

ADK is a fruit vendor, and WW wants some?  That doesn't seem like code to me.

I can't counterclaim

PPE

But what is an avacado?

Okay maybe I can't spell.  But still.

[faust]

ADK is certainly not going to fake claim without checking that he can't be counterclaimed.

Likely not. Stranger things have happened. I just want to make sure noone comes out at like D4 and says "but I'm 1-shot Cop and didn't realize I could counterclaim!"

[gkrieg13]

So looking back at the matrix, We either just gave scum 0 information, in the case we are playing the straight up and down one, or we gave them information that confirms the setup for them, in the case we are playing the straight across one.

[yuma]

Just for the record, this is a list of PRs that should claim immediately to counter this claim:

Fruit Vendor (doh)
(full) Tracker
Doctor
Odd-Night Watcher
1-shot Vig
1-shot Cop
2-shot Commuter
Universal Backup
Bodyguard
Neighborizer

(please check for yourselves that I did not make any mistake)

But really I believe ADK's claim.

Why should they immediately claim?

To out scum.

Thanks captain obvious. But why can't they out scum tomorrow after using their pr once during the night?

Or the next day after using it twice.

I realize this is an unlikely scenario as ADK is likely town or scum who somehow knows it is a safe claim (I think that isn't possible but should double check) but still... We are in day1. Waiting to claim is a feasible option.

[faust]

Thanks captain obvious. But why can't they out scum tomorrow after using their pr once during the night?

Or the next day after using it twice.

I realize this is an unlikely scenario as ADK is likely town or scum who somehow knows it is a safe claim (I think that isn't possible but should double check) but still... We are in day1. Waiting to claim is a feasible option.

Well yes. But it's all about timing. Claiming such a thing when you end up at L-1 is bad, and it is a situation I like to avoid.

[faust]

Plus, the later the claim, the more likely it is a decent fakeclaim for scum.