I'm not saying it's too early to have reads, but it's certainly too early to have accurate reads. As long as you keep in mind that you're probably almost entirely wrong in what you say, then go ahead and say it. I do think the reads lists are helpful for getting people on record and for generating conversation. Just don't put too much faith in them.
As for your argument "would this help scum yuma?" I argue that it wouldn't. Not meaningfully.
I agree with this. I am thinking yuma may have been hoping it would start a (terrible) lio wagon, so then we could see who else would join it claiming it was a good idea.
This is absolutely not what I was doing. Because it isn't a "terrible" wagon. It was a vote because I agreed with what Robz said. I was interested in seeing lio's reaction, but mostly it is because I am a strong proponent of voting when you find something scummy.
I was hardly about to be lynched any time soon, and the odds are still pretty good that I will not be the lynch today (maybe slightly more than 1/9). It isn't the time to start actively trying to lynch people. I do not think that yuma was really trying to lynch me, more that he agrees with robz's point, and so voted to get some discussion going.
This is more of what I was doing, except I don't really care about starting discussion. I mean I want discussion, but I am not going to go out of my way to force it to happen. I am just going to play and the discussion will follow. If it doesn't then I am going to call people out on it and that will probably start a discussion. But I never post or vote just to start discussion. I vote because something is scummy and I am using my vote to say that I think it is and is worthy of a vote.
Now for mcmc's early "case" on me.
Does anyone see how similar it is to Dsell's case on me from last game's blitz? I sure do. In that game dsell basically created a case on me for "not having original thoughts" within the first few hours of the game. Mcmc is basically doing the same thing here. OMG! Yuma posted a vote w/o adding anything to the case!! No original thought!!! He must be trying to play it safe and get on the wagon early!
Maybe if we actually looked at the context. I have had one post in this game. One. Why? Because I am a busy man and sometimes dont' have time to post, last night was such a time. But post I did what I could. It was what 12 hours in the game? There was very little to add to what robz had said already. Anything else would ahve just been unnecessary words... fluff, useless.
What I am seeing here is the same thing I saw in dsell and the same thing I correctly called him out on. This--not trying to get on a wagon 12 hours into the game so mafia can play it safe--is a tactic that mafia uses. Creating a case that looks good but is based on... nothing but bad assumptions and distortions. Why do they do it? Because it moves the topic of conversation away from themselves and the longer that can be the case, mafia will prosper.
So here I am going to
vote: mcmc. Again, just like in the blitz game. This isn't a OMGUS vote. It isn't. It is a vote because mcmc created a bad case on me, a case that I have seen scum use in the past--just last game for example. If mcmc had pushed this case on any other player I would have called it out as well in the same way I am doing now...