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[A Drowned Kernel]

I have a question for Ichi, no one answer for him please.

Before ash corrected you, how did you think that the setup worked?

Going to class soon, but I have time to answer this.

I thought it was a straight up multiball with 2 different mafia factions that didn't have the same wincon like a red mafia and blue mafia or something.

So you thought that there were two different mafia factions that each only had half of a nightkill?

[Ichimaru Gin]

... Yeah.

[A Drowned Kernel]

Okay then.

[A Drowned Kernel]

Anybody have thoughts of possible pairings based on behavior today?  Maybe some folks seem too married up?  Too distanced?  Too much fighting?

Anyway, some possible partner reads:

Ichi - Faust
Hydrad - XP
SS - ADK

SS-Hydrad seems like a possibility. ash-one of the lurkers seems plausible too.

Another thing that's occurred to me: It's a bit of a conspiracy theory but there might be a possibility that faust and ash are a scum team. They were the ones that were pushing for massclaim initially, if I recall, and they both have claimed roles that can verify other people's powers. It might be possible that they planned the whole thing ahead of time, so they could both fake claim investigative roles while making it harder to get caught in a lie. I don't know, I'll have to go back and look at how exactly it went down.

[Witherweaver]

Okay then.

I can't really blame him; I didn't think it through either. 

[A Drowned Kernel]

I'll accept that answer (at least for now). It's at least plausible that he believed that.

[Archetype]

Vote Count 1.7

XerxesPraelor (1): Hydrad
Witherweaver (3): 2.7, chairs, ashersky
A Drowned Kernel (2): silverspawn, Ichimaru Gin
silverspawn (1): A Drowned Kernel
Hydrad (5): XerxesPraelor, Witherweaver, Joseph, Awaclus, faust

Not Voting (0):

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Day 1 deadline is March 15th at 5:45 PM.

[faust]

Anybody have thoughts of possible pairings based on behavior today?  Maybe some folks seem too married up?  Too distanced?  Too much fighting?

Anyway, some possible partner reads:

Ichi - Faust
Hydrad - XP
SS - ADK

SS-Hydrad seems like a possibility. ash-one of the lurkers seems plausible too.

Another thing that's occurred to me: It's a bit of a conspiracy theory but there might be a possibility that faust and ash are a scum team. They were the ones that were pushing for massclaim initially, if I recall, and they both have claimed roles that can verify other people's powers. It might be possible that they planned the whole thing ahead of time, so they could both fake claim investigative roles while making it harder to get caught in a lie. I don't know, I'll have to go back and look at how exactly it went down.

Well, of course for that you'd have to believe that town has no investigative role, right?

[faust]

ADK feels townie overall. I feel like he's less into things as scum.

[faust]

ADK feels townie overall. I feel like he's less into things as scum.

+ confirmable super pro-town role. Really don't understand the votes there.

[Witherweaver]

ADK feels townie overall. I feel like he's less into things as scum.

+ confirmable super pro-town role. Really don't understand the votes there.

I think if you read ADK only until up to about two days ago, you would agree.

He's been more townie lately.  It also happened after I sort of called him out on it, for whatever that's worth.

[A Drowned Kernel]

Anybody have thoughts of possible pairings based on behavior today?  Maybe some folks seem too married up?  Too distanced?  Too much fighting?

Anyway, some possible partner reads:

Ichi - Faust
Hydrad - XP
SS - ADK

SS-Hydrad seems like a possibility. ash-one of the lurkers seems plausible too.

Another thing that's occurred to me: It's a bit of a conspiracy theory but there might be a possibility that faust and ash are a scum team. They were the ones that were pushing for massclaim initially, if I recall, and they both have claimed roles that can verify other people's powers. It might be possible that they planned the whole thing ahead of time, so they could both fake claim investigative roles while making it harder to get caught in a lie. I don't know, I'll have to go back and look at how exactly it went down.

Well, of course for that you'd have to believe that town has no investigative role, right?

You mean besides Hydrad's?

[Witherweaver]

It's also possible someone could have withheld part of their role.

[faust]

You mean besides Hydrad's?

Calling Hydrad's role "investigative" is quite the stretch. I mean technically yes, he does investigate, but not anything we want to know at all. Really I think we'd be better off not knowing Hydrad's results in general, because if we know them, scum knows who they can kill.

[faust]

It's also possible someone could have withheld part of their role.

Well, you would be my top guess.

[Joseph2302]

Post count 1.0

Ichimaru Gin-85
silverspawn-68
A Drowned Kernel-67
Witherweaver-66
faust-62
ashersky-37
Hydrad-30
XerxesPraelor-30
2.7-23
chairs-16
Joseph2302-16
Awaclus-13

I know I've been low on posts, I've been busy, sorry. No more planned absences. chairs is usually low on post counts, seems more of a busy trait than a scum trait.

I always lurk in RMMs.

Seems true enough, so no real scum read there.

Ok. Then who do you want to lynch tomorrow?

Surely we should decide for today first?

... Yeah.

I can accept this too.

So my plan is to poison, but not currently sure who. I still think I like my vote on Hydrad, can't see anyone better to put it on.

It's also possible someone could have withheld part of their role.

Well, you would be my top guess.

If I were scum with my role, I wouldn't have mentioned the 2nd clause of my role. Think scum probably have clauses they've kept hidden.

PPE: 5 (but then I read and responded to them).

[faust]

So my plan is to poison, but not currently sure who. I still think I like my vote on Hydrad, can't see anyone better to put it on.

I think you don't need directions. I trust you to evaluate the game after you see how the lynch went down and who flipped what.

[Ichimaru Gin]

I don't think ADK is particularly townie. Also, it's important to note all the people that were around before Ash corrected my misconception. ADK was most certainly around and didn't correct me (or others that thought the same).

ADK posted right after I made my statement about a multiball and didn't say anything about it. Just things to think about.

From outside my point of view I see three options for those that didn't correct my misconception.

1. They're my partner--they shared the misconception and/or this was planned (I don't see why though).

2. They were also confused--I see this as much more likely to come from town.

3. They knew I was wrong and chose not to correct me. I only see this making sense for scum.

So ADK is making me reiterate these statements confirming my confusion. Why, though? And if he was so much more informed about the setup at that time and knew I was wrong, why didn't he say anything?

[Ichimaru Gin]

Or. I guess a 4th option is that they just missed my post entirely--I guess that's possible.

[A Drowned Kernel]

I don't think ADK is particularly townie. Also, it's important to note all the people that were around before Ash corrected my misconception. ADK was most certainly around and didn't correct me (or others that thought the same).

ADK posted right after I made my statement about a multiball and didn't say anything about it. Just things to think about.

From outside my point of view I see three options for those that didn't correct my misconception.

1. They're my partner--they shared the misconception and/or this was planned (I don't see why though).

2. They were also confused--I see this as much more likely to come from town.

3. They knew I was wrong and chose not to correct me. I only see this making sense for scum.

So ADK is making me reiterate these statements confirming my confusion. Why, though? And if he was so much more informed about the setup at that time and knew I was wrong, why didn't he say anything?

I skimmed the post and missed the implication that you were under a misconception. I thought you were talking about scum bussing their unknown partners, not opposing teams.

[faust]

3. They knew I was wrong and chose not to correct me. I only see this making sense for scum.

How is this making sense for scum? I mean, it's not like we weren't bound to find out eventually.

[Ichimaru Gin]

3. They knew I was wrong and chose not to correct me. I only see this making sense for scum.

How is this making sense for scum? I mean, it's not like we weren't bound to find out eventually.

It makes more sense for scum than town. Why would they go out of their way to correct my misconception when others went along with it? Sure, it'd be figured out eventually, but I at least, was operating under a false idea until Ash showed up.
From your point of view, them correcting me doesn't give them any town credit either. So my question is more, why would scum correct me?

[Ichimaru Gin]

I think anyone trying to push the multiball mindset on this game is scummy because it is purposefully misleading.  It is trying to get us thinking about scum in the wrong way, which will lead us down incorrect lines of reasoning.

So yeah, I don't see why scum would correct me.

[Ichimaru Gin]

Also. I don't know if you missed my response to you, or just didn't want to respond to it. Either way, it's all good.
I still don't trust you at all though. This last question also feels insincere. Why would scum go out of the way to correct town's misconception? It feels like you're playing devil's advocate

[A Drowned Kernel]

Are you talking to me?