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Re: ZM22: Shakespeare (Sorta) Blitz - Day 1
« Reply #150 on: October 28, 2015, 03:48:33 am »

And just to get it on record - scum probably would scumhunt in this game, which makes it a little bit harder

so in this game. wagon analysis and stuff will be almost useless? I feel like it might turn into a game of chance to see if we catch scum as there isn't really any way to gain info I guess.
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Re: ZM22: Shakespeare (Sorta) Blitz - Day 1
« Reply #151 on: October 28, 2015, 04:07:21 am »

Vote Count 1.7:

2.7 (1): Hydrad
Witherweaver (3): 2.7, faust, Awaclus
Hydrad (3): Witherweaver, EgorK, gkrieg13

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Re: ZM22: Shakespeare (Sorta) Blitz - Day 1
« Reply #152 on: October 28, 2015, 05:10:36 am »

And just to get it on record - scum probably would scumhunt in this game, which makes it a little bit harder

so in this game. wagon analysis and stuff will be almost useless? I feel like it might turn into a game of chance to see if we catch scum as there isn't really any way to gain info I guess.

Well, you can still look for scummy behaviour, but it's hard.

The best way to catch scum here is to figure out who is not scum.
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Re: ZM22: Shakespeare (Sorta) Blitz - Day 1
« Reply #153 on: October 28, 2015, 05:17:15 am »

And just to get it on record - scum probably would scumhunt in this game, which makes it a little bit harder

so in this game. wagon analysis and stuff will be almost useless? I feel like it might turn into a game of chance to see if we catch scum as there isn't really any way to gain info I guess.

Well, you can still look for scummy behaviour, but it's hard.

The best way to catch scum here is to figure out who is not scum.

Thats an interesting way to think about it.

Ok lets see.... ok I think gkreig isn't scum. So since I found one now the rest of you have to find another townie and this will be easy. (I'll give you a hint. One of them is me!)
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Re: ZM22: Shakespeare (Sorta) Blitz - Day 1
« Reply #154 on: October 28, 2015, 06:01:51 am »

One way of finding scum is finding people who are looking for one scum out of 6 players, rather than two. The difference is more subtle than it usually is, but it's still there and it affects the way how people think and sometimes it shows even if you're trying to hide it. For instance, when I was playing (almost) this setup as scum in M67, I scumslipped here by trying to convince silverspawn that Seprix is scum without even appearing to consider the possibility that he could be Seprix's partner. Then I noticed it, and had to come up with an explanation why that was the case, and then I somehow got away with it.
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Re: ZM22: Shakespeare (Sorta) Blitz - Day 1
« Reply #155 on: October 28, 2015, 06:04:31 am »

The point being, it can be difficult to notice these things, but they still exist.
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Re: ZM22: Shakespeare (Sorta) Blitz - Day 1
« Reply #156 on: October 28, 2015, 06:49:59 am »

Hydrad and WW both looks scummy ATM
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Re: ZM22: Shakespeare (Sorta) Blitz - Day 1
« Reply #157 on: October 28, 2015, 06:53:43 am »

On the other hand I do not have any specific town reads on anyone (beside gkrieg and myself obviously)
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Re: ZM22: Shakespeare (Sorta) Blitz - Day 1
« Reply #158 on: October 28, 2015, 06:55:39 am »

Hydrad and WW both looks scummy ATM

ah sorry faust said that we have to find townies and then POE kinda thing. so since you don't have other town reads this is obviously wrong.

(although I agree with the WW one)
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Re: ZM22: Shakespeare (Sorta) Blitz - Day 1
« Reply #159 on: October 28, 2015, 06:56:20 am »

also that reminds me.

Vote: WW

back to L-1!
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Re: ZM22: Shakespeare (Sorta) Blitz - Day 1
« Reply #160 on: October 28, 2015, 07:07:17 am »

Hydrad and WW both looks scummy ATM

ah sorry faust said that we have to find townies and then POE kinda thing. so since you don't have other town reads this is obviously wrong.

(although I agree with the WW one)

But why what faust said is binding? Do you have your own opinion on the matter? Do you have any town reads? Do you have anything to add to the discussion beside your WW read and voting/unvoting on him (which I do not like at all, unvoting part that is)?
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Re: ZM22: Shakespeare (Sorta) Blitz - Day 1
« Reply #161 on: October 28, 2015, 07:54:07 am »

Hydrad and WW both looks scummy ATM

ah sorry faust said that we have to find townies and then POE kinda thing. so since you don't have other town reads this is obviously wrong.

(although I agree with the WW one)

But why what faust said is binding? Do you have your own opinion on the matter? Do you have any town reads? Do you have anything to add to the discussion beside your WW read and voting/unvoting on him (which I do not like at all, unvoting part that is)?

wait what unvoting part?

as for the thing faust said I think its an interesting way to approach this game and I'll probably use it. But ya right now I actually don't have any good town reads. That statement was more of a joke.
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Re: ZM22: Shakespeare (Sorta) Blitz - Day 1
« Reply #162 on: October 28, 2015, 08:02:16 am »

I am here! I read someone Awaclus seems a bit scummy. I don't know about Hydrad. Has Witherweaver not looked at his PM? EgorK (I think that's his name) seems fine. I don't think I'm going to vote for now.
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Re: ZM22: Shakespeare (Sorta) Blitz - Day 1
« Reply #163 on: October 28, 2015, 08:38:50 am »

Not that anyone would hammer this early, but I want to explore more scum reads before the day ends so

vote: roadrunner

He seems to be very self-aware this game, commenting on his own voting and such.  I find that to come from scum more than town.
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Re: ZM22: Shakespeare (Sorta) Blitz - Day 1
« Reply #164 on: October 28, 2015, 09:07:00 am »

Not that anyone would hammer this early, but I want to explore more scum reads before the day ends so

vote: roadrunner

He seems to be very self-aware this game, commenting on his own voting and such.  I find that to come from scum more than town.

Look at him in the other game he is in.
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Re: ZM22: Shakespeare (Sorta) Blitz - Day 1
« Reply #165 on: October 28, 2015, 09:07:51 am »

I also don't believe that witherweaver hasn't looked at his PM.  Although, if he was going to do it, this would be the game to do it in.

No reason to lie about it.  Game started before I woke up and could confirm.  I got the alert but didn't read it. 
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Re: ZM22: Shakespeare (Sorta) Blitz - Day 1
« Reply #166 on: October 28, 2015, 09:08:29 am »

Hydrad and WW both looks scummy ATM

ah sorry faust said that we have to find townies and then POE kinda thing. so since you don't have other town reads this is obviously wrong.

(although I agree with the WW one)

But why what faust said is binding? Do you have your own opinion on the matter? Do you have any town reads? Do you have anything to add to the discussion beside your WW read and voting/unvoting on him (which I do not like at all, unvoting part that is)?

wait what unvoting part?

as for the thing faust said I think its an interesting way to approach this game and I'll probably use it. But ya right now I actually don't have any good town reads. That statement was more of a joke.

I thought you voted WW because you found him scummy. My bad. And he was L-1 at the time I think, so I understand why you had not voted.

I need to reassess this game it seems
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Re: ZM22: Shakespeare (Sorta) Blitz - Day 1
« Reply #167 on: October 28, 2015, 09:10:31 am »

Faust and Hydrad look bad, Awaclus maybe
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Re: ZM22: Shakespeare (Sorta) Blitz - Day 1
« Reply #168 on: October 28, 2015, 09:10:57 am »

Egor feels town
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Re: ZM22: Shakespeare (Sorta) Blitz - Day 1
« Reply #169 on: October 28, 2015, 09:11:51 am »

Faust and Hydrad look bad, Awaclus maybe

Why Faust?
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Re: ZM22: Shakespeare (Sorta) Blitz - Day 1
« Reply #170 on: October 28, 2015, 09:13:37 am »

Faust and Hydrad look bad, Awaclus maybe

Why Faust?

I get a "how should town act in this setup?" kind of feel from him, instead of a "how should I be finding scum?".. if that makes sense.
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Re: ZM22: Shakespeare (Sorta) Blitz - Day 1
« Reply #171 on: October 28, 2015, 09:45:46 am »

Awaclus doesn't look bad.
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Re: ZM22: Shakespeare (Sorta) Blitz - Day 1
« Reply #172 on: October 28, 2015, 10:08:22 am »

vote: Awaclus
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Re: ZM22: Shakespeare (Sorta) Blitz - Day 1
« Reply #173 on: October 28, 2015, 10:09:29 am »

vote: Awaclus

You shouldn't vote for people who don't look bad.
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Re: ZM22: Shakespeare (Sorta) Blitz - Day 1
« Reply #174 on: October 28, 2015, 10:49:24 am »

Vote Count 1.8:

Witherweaver (3): faust, Awaclus, Hydrad
Hydrad (2): Witherweaver, EgorK
RR (1): 2.7
Awaclus (1): gkrieg13

Not Voting (1):  RR

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