I'm catching up again. You all have this nasty habit of putting up like 5 new pages when I'm trying to clear my head. I'm up to #554 so far, and need to post some of my thoughts thusfar.
Here are two things I agree with.
Okay this has all the makings of a mislynch!
TA, you found sort of a contradiction in spirit's position. Before diving further to the rabbit hole, do you think it's more likely he just got stubborn with a read and carried away when it got questioned or that he is scum and playing in a very obvious way?
The reason I think this case on spirit is indeed weaksauce is that he has no reason to act like that as mafia. This feels a lot like you got so excited you found something that you aren't seeing what it is you found.
I am feeling this way too, especially the last part; this just doesn't seem like behavior that a presence-conscious mafia would put out there. I think spirit's frustration is extreme, but also genuine.
What do you think about me agreeing with Eevee, ash?
Agreeing with Eevee on what? He hasn't done anything to agree with. That's my current issue with Eevee.
This feels like D1 of Mean Girls Eevee. I think SB made that point, too.
Here, I'm pretty sure that ashersky was using "agreeing with what?" to make a point, because it should have been clear from context that he was talking about agreeing with Eevee regarding TA's position on spiritbears. At the end of the day, I'm most suspicious of the people who have had minimal presence. The thing is, everybody is searching for a day1 case that isn't 'weaksauce'. Generally these are really hard to find, unless scum make serious errors. So I think scum is most likely to be the set of people making minimal waves, or calculated waves. There have been counter-examples to this, so when I see something bigger, it's good to have a gauge of how genuine it feels.
But the set of people who have existed, but not memorably (at least to me) is Xeiron, AHoppy, chairs, Eevee, mail-mi. It's not a question of posting a lot or 'undersposting' based on one's meta. Eevee is right that he has had much fewer posts in recent games and has been called scummy for 'underposting' a lot. But still, him disagreeing with Twisted about spirit is the only thing I remember from Eevee.
Eevee gives a set of pro-tips for reading him
Pro tips to reading me: Town Eevee has town reads / disagrees on what's scummy. Scum Eevee has scum reads and pushes cases aggressively. Town Eevee defends people when he thinks the accusations aren't valid. Scum Eevee thinks everything is scummy and tries to get people lynched.
But I don't agree entirely with these. I'm recalling loudEevee who was town from Mafia Noir, another RMM game. I always take personal-metas with like 8 grains of salt. My idea of an Eevee-meta is much more like ashersky says
But yes, smaller presence generally reads as scum Eevee.
So I guess this post ended up being pretty Eevee-related, so I'll throw in Eevee's question to the others:
Nkirbit, high five!
Others, what do we think of this fine gentleman seeming to always be there to agree with me when I make the effort to post?
I don't think too much of it; nkirbit is still nullread for me. Like Twisted, he has a habit of commenting on everything that's going on, and sometimes he agrees, sometimes he disagrees.